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Homemade Shingle Maker! (Log slicer / kindling machine..) 

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It's scary and noisy - but it works! It isn't connected to the engine yet, of course, but it can slice a log into thin flakes - shingles..
Yesterdays Machinery is the name of the Swedish channel - and this is the video which includes his 1930s shingle-maker
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@senorjp21
@senorjp21 Год назад
In woodworking a blade is often "skewed" on a diagonal to the direction of cut. This lessens the engagement forces. It might also help your machine because it would tend to push pieces against the side and keep them more constrained.
@lumotroph
@lumotroph Год назад
I think this is the right idea. Like how you angle a plane diagonally while you’re cutting to make it cut smoother.
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers Год назад
Yes! Plus maybe tilting the whole table 45° towards the side the angled blade would push the wood. This would largely prevent the logs from shifting crosswise.
@Melicoy
@Melicoy Год назад
Tim your blade needs to be on an angle like a head chopper guateen
@alexlail7481
@alexlail7481 Год назад
I've seen the same video he referenced at the opening. While you're 100% right the blade should not be straight, and normally I would expect it to skew. But in the video the 1930s machine has a broad u shape rather than a skew. I think something like ¾inch/ 19mm further back in the center slowly back to full width of the blade at the edges. I can't prove it but I think the original builder did so too make the log self centering and self straightening along with easier cutting that a skewed blade provides.
@GpunktHartman
@GpunktHartman Год назад
You can see it at an Giulotine... 🤪
@BlueEyedColonizer
@BlueEyedColonizer Год назад
At the very least Sir, you have entertained thousands of people. Very impressive. Bravo
@Bob1Mack
@Bob1Mack Год назад
Tim. If you're having to manipulate the log while the machine is running, make some kind of a little picaroon to keep your uands iut of the way. That way, if the picaroon gets caught in the works, it's just stuff being broken, not you. edit: You may want to think about a safety toggle in the power train. It's any easily breakable part that will fail before any expensive.
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 Год назад
I think the bolt on the far end of the connecting rod doubles as a shear pin.
@djbhi2
@djbhi2 Год назад
yes also if possible a kind of clutch on the eccentric might help for safety
@Gavintyler21
@Gavintyler21 Год назад
I like what you’re doing as I watch I keep thinking about a roller mill for your charcoal. two heavy rollers specific distance apart as you feed the charcoal through the space. I use a device called grain mill for my home brewing. If you can make a bigger one could be made interesting
@aido179
@aido179 Год назад
Great work Tim! An incredible finger removal device you've made. My suggestions (free of charge!): 1. A simple weighted board or arm that just rests on top of the logs to keep them lying flat. 2. Angle the blade horizontally so it makes a stroke through the log. 3. Let the table lift to prevent other things breaking, just put weights on the far end to trim. 4. Keep the short throw on the eccentric, or go smaller to get more mechanical advantage, but add a ratchet mechanism so the blade moves in shorter, more powerful movements, potentially over a longer overall stroke.
@gwyneddboom2579
@gwyneddboom2579 Год назад
Good ones there! I’ll add a few of my own ideas! If you just add more logs to the thing, they’ll keep each other aligned. Adding an engaging/disengaging system would be helpful, so you can turn off the machine while keeping the wheel going. Maybe some sort of hook on the sled that hooks the drive arm to it, with a rope to hook the drive arm of on the backup stroke. Adding an angle to the lubricating surfaces of the sled, to force grease into it. Potentially adding some holes to the surfaces too, to be able to lubricate the machine while it’s moving.
@timderks5960
@timderks5960 Год назад
My comments on the suggestions: 1. Agreed. IMO, the movement of the wood is the main issue. If it was pressed down in some way, it wouldn't flip as easy. 2. I don't think it'd make a big difference, it's mainly on the initial contact, but it couldn't hurt. 3. Absolutely, anchoring both the table and the wheel would result in iron violently ripping apart. 4. That's a great idea. It would slow down progress a bit, but it'd make it extremely powerful.
@caveweta
@caveweta Год назад
Check out those Eastonmade log splitters that have a rake to retrieve the log an drop it down ready for the next slice
@Facechild88
@Facechild88 Год назад
I would advise a piece of spring-steel (still fairly flexy) holding something in-line with the log that keeps it upright as well as holding it in line. The front of whatever shape you build should angle up as to not catch on the blade when the log has been completely shaved off. Maybe an L bracket facing up ^ and the front that faces the blade would be tapered up ___\=====
@perstaffanlundgren
@perstaffanlundgren Год назад
Good ideas ! And a impressive build! Some ideas of improvement... Problem 1 :wood spinning Adjustable side bar that is pulled back by a handle an spring loads the wood side ways when let go. Problem 2 wood tipping up something that push the wood down and land on supports when wood is gone , to prevent It getting cut in the blade. Also the blade should ideally be flat on the upp side and grinded on th bottom side only , the cut depth is set by lowering the forward part of the stationary bottom plate. If you can find a blade from a big truck mounted wood shipper that can be used . They are flat on one side. When the blades get to worn the steel between the mounting slots and the cutting edge get narrow , and the blade gets scrapped. Mind that These machines spin very fast , so the centrifugal forces combined with the chock load on the blades when big logs are milled can be substantial. In your machine even a scrapped blade can work , no risk of flying blade going thru walls here. These roof shingle machines very dangerous, It's not a good idea to put hands an fingers even near where the blade works. Even if you dont get cut you can crush fingers and hands inbewen the log and the pusher plate. Any solution that means that you have to handle the log in the machine wit your hands when you have put it there is not a good solution. The fact that the operator is holding the log on a wood shingle machine is because they flip the log to regulate the wiht and the growth rings in the shingle, often they end upp with a triangle that's disregarded when it gets to small to handle safely. Also you don't want the "middel core "heart wood in the shingle to prevent cracks.
@AngeloXification
@AngeloXification Год назад
Engineer dads are the best dads, this looks like so much fun to build and tinker to get it just right.
@xFlow150
@xFlow150 Год назад
It's works way better than I expected to be honest. Albeit that it's hard to imagine how much force is actually behind the flywheel from just looking at the images. I imagine that building a proper hopper that automatically feeds the logs into the cutting table will fix a lot of the issues you were having and already partially resolved. The hopper can secure and steer the logs into the proper position to prevent cutting cross grain and the flipping of logs. You could go as far as mechanically linking the table and the feed mechanism to only let a new log in when the current log has been finished cutting. But I'm getting ahead of myself. This is truly a great piece of machinery! I do cringe everytime you get your fingers close to it though.
@jeffwxyz
@jeffwxyz Год назад
One more thing: I suggest that you make the connecting rod from two pieces to pipe where one can telescope into the other. With one of the two pipes connected to the eccentric and the other pipe connected to the carriage. Then cross drill through both pieces of pipe for a shear pin. Also, I think it is a good idea for the connecting rod to be in tension during the cutting stroke as a heavy cutting force will not bend the connecting rod and cause it to buckle.
@StubProductions
@StubProductions Год назад
Excellent idea
@ericlotze7724
@ericlotze7724 Год назад
Never would i have ever thought up a Wood Slicing Mandolin, Simply Delightful. Keep up the great work!
@krakenpots5693
@krakenpots5693 Год назад
That excentric is a thing of beauty!!!
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge Год назад
Hurrah! First very best wishes to Sandra for her recovery. Second the sideways constraints on the log seem essential. Then there's the lovely interplay of names between shakes and shingles. A chestnut coppice next!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
One of my many regrets - I should have planted chestnuts as a child..
@gbentley8176
@gbentley8176 Год назад
Saw Richard's machine and it makes beautiful shingles. Your new monster really is a beauty. Makes one appreciate what our forbears in the engineering field actually devised and built under conditions so unlike today's instant CAD world. Thanks for posting.
@Frz45
@Frz45 Год назад
I love how all these channels find each other!
@ronjones9373
@ronjones9373 Год назад
The secret to shingle making is wood species selection. Imagine doing that by hand with a shingle froe. Which worked quite well.
@bishopcorva
@bishopcorva Год назад
That blade looks like it came off a large rotary brush chopper that was towed by a tractor in the 200hp range or higher. Mass and speed of rotation meant the edge didn't have to be all that sharp. Only durable and somewhat blade edged. Good to see such a piece being put to a new use.
@drosselvonflugel4886
@drosselvonflugel4886 Год назад
Work that makes your hands dirty, i love it.
@sebbes333
@sebbes333 Год назад
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 3:00 I would suggest adding some softer metal (eg. brass, aluminum, etc) in a way that is easy to replace, placed on the underside as a gliding surface, this is the concept of making the machine fail in a easy to replace location, so you only need to change some strips, instead of re-weld another new carriage or frame. It can be a strip of softer metal fastened on the carriage-side, bent under the carriage & fastened again on the opposite side, or whatever you come up with :) 0:25 Nice to see that the videos was helpful :D
@joethompson11
@joethompson11 Год назад
The suspense on this video was big! I wonder if some push rods like for a table saw would save those fingers (and my nerves!) Anyway I'm not moaning, it's fantastic what you've achieved here!
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 Год назад
Tim I think once its on a full machine and you keep pileing wood on top of it and build a hopper and keep stacking wood in to it say about a couple of feet it should keep everything in place and not allow any bits to bounce or move about. Such a cool idea. I have always wanted once of those shingle machines.
@ErickBuildsStuff
@ErickBuildsStuff Год назад
I don't think it's a good idea. Back when I was a child, mom brought home a similar veggie slicer machine. The hopper used to always get clogged for such designs. She wanted sliced almonds (for selling them commercially) and I remember it exploding rather than making slices. Almonds got caught in between the metal housing and the blade and due to extreme stress from the top, everything blew apart and the cast iron just broke. It was powered by a nice electric motor that had a similar eccentric design. It was reinforced and again used but again failed in a similar fashion. Eventually she left the idea and instead bought the rotating disc type slicer (of course that too broke at the pivot point). She eventually left the business idea.
@ErickBuildsStuff
@ErickBuildsStuff Год назад
Later model eventually had a very very thin bendable blade design. It looked flimsy and dangerous but sliced very good. Large scale model for wood I'm not sure. Hard woods would fail.
@kameljoe21
@kameljoe21 Год назад
@@ErickBuildsStuff This blade is pretty thick and wood is pretty ease to shave off. As long as he keeps the blade sharp you should be able to pile on the logs to enough height to keep enough weight on it. Waxing the slider will also help. Adding wax block on either side of the of the fence will help to ensure that a slick movement happens all the time. You will need to keep enough weight on it and making a plate that sits in the hopper ( taper hopper so the plate does not hit the blade will make it easy to walk a way for a few moments.
@MalcolmoftheNorth
@MalcolmoftheNorth Год назад
What a lovely and deliciously dangerous machine! As I was watching how the logs were behaving I did think about a mandolin. Looking at my mandolin I see that the blade is on a 45 degree angle. (That way more of the blade would engage with the log through the cut. But the whole table would become a bit narrower) Now, what if you also tilted the table a little, so gravity would pull the log to one side? Just a thought…
@RealRequiem
@RealRequiem Год назад
It’s great how you can solve all the problems! Sometimes I think you put too much effort in the optimization of a bad solution instead of finding a better way to do things but you prove me wrong every time. Keep up the great work!
@mattsmocs3281
@mattsmocs3281 Год назад
I know cedar isn’t exactly a native wood to Ireland, but in maine and across new england, cedar shingles made much like this are used to cover the walls and roofs of houses (roofs being a temporary hold over before putting slate tiles on or a rubber roof) and the shingles work great as they keep the rain and snow of the Atlantic coast out of the homes and protect from the strong gust. So you basically made a tool for making New England style homes. Say might as well take some inspiration from the WW&F railway at this rate!
@andersholt4653
@andersholt4653 Год назад
Simply brilliant and equally terrifying. Greetings from 🇸🇪.
@chrissmith7655
@chrissmith7655 Год назад
Hi Tim , could you make the width of the cutting area adjustable to suit the diameter of the wood to stop it turning , or cut more than one log at a time to fill the cutting area.
@MiguelAngel-pn1bz
@MiguelAngel-pn1bz Год назад
Yep! And maybe some kind of weight to prevent the log from jumping around when it's almost done
@m93sek
@m93sek Год назад
I would put the slicer at an angle (relative to the length) an form a v-shape with another steel plate. That way gravity will make the pieces aline quite well orthogonal to the blade.
@nathant97
@nathant97 Год назад
Perhaps to hold the logs in place you could use some kind of air bag? The thinking being it can surround all shapes and provide an equal force on it. little difficult with the blade but and idea perhaps. Great video, very enjoyable!
@brianvissers7250
@brianvissers7250 Год назад
Have you considered tilting the whole bed 20-30 degrees to one side so the pieces of wood will roll down to the side and stay perpendicular to the knife? You could then extend the sides of the cutting chamber up to form a shallow hopper and load several layers of wood. the top pieces would hold the bottom pieces in place for proper cutting.
@SteveeCee
@SteveeCee Год назад
Love the Yesterday's Machinery channel, another of my favourites. It complements your channel though since he is a fixer not a maker like you. We can appreciate both skills
@speckdratz
@speckdratz Год назад
Ah, there's my nail clipper!
@carld3184
@carld3184 Год назад
For safety a shear pin in the connecting rod might work. It would have to be a two piece connecting rod, both pieces almost the full length of the current connecting rod with one piece collapsing into the other to avoid flailing about.
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 Год назад
A large heavy duty spring like one car suspension. On the thrust arm. To absorb the shock when the wood goes wonky.
@zestoslife
@zestoslife Год назад
Utter madness, looks wonderful!
@Th3Pr0digalS0n
@Th3Pr0digalS0n Год назад
Wow, that is incredibly useful and absolutely terrifying. But most good machines are at that. As usual I am impressed and fearful of your digits.
@ciaranosullivan3193
@ciaranosullivan3193 Год назад
Its amazing how powerful it is
@stalldrom
@stalldrom Год назад
What you might need is belt drive somewhere along the power train. It is an important safety feature on these typ of machines. When something get jammed 8n the blade the belt slips instead of tip over your machine 😊.
@Kullioking
@Kullioking Год назад
Solutions fore your problems. Cut slots in to the front and back log stop so that they look like a comb. In this slots you than can put side guides that go down to just over the blade. With the slots you can ajust the guides to the log size. If you make than 2 slots in to each of the side guides you can make a heavy pushblock with guiding rods that hold the log down while cutting. It all will look in the end like a turned over food slicer machine with out the turning blade.
@meirionevans5137
@meirionevans5137 Год назад
Scary but fun. When preparing your wood, cut out the knots, will split much easier.
@malibugrove
@malibugrove Год назад
Angling the blade should help each cutting stroke and keep the log pushed against the carriage edge.
@HisnameisRich
@HisnameisRich Год назад
incredibly impressive as always Tim, a hopper allowing logs to sit 3/4 deep would keep the logs flat and keep your appendages from the blades (This is obviously already been suggested and no doubt thought of by you!)
@seabeepirate
@seabeepirate Год назад
Cool project! Don’t forget you’ll lose mechanical advantage when you extend the eccentric so you’ll need more input power.
@davesden
@davesden Год назад
You need to stack the logs in a funnel on top of each other to keep weight on the piece being cut! Then it won't spin around. Like an auto feeder and have supports which keep them straight.
@crowznest438
@crowznest438 Год назад
I wish I didn't know that phrase, "how hard can it be" haha.
@globin3477
@globin3477 Год назад
you should probably add some mechanism to quickly disconnect the cutter from the flywheel in an emergency, if you haven't already.
@MaxMakerChannel
@MaxMakerChannel Год назад
Thats cool that you ordered a son in China!
@jimphubar
@jimphubar Год назад
The best mandolins have a slanted blade. A floating plate on top of the 'hopper' to prevent bucking and rotating maybe. Like a hand held rotary parmesan grater.
@kiwigurn
@kiwigurn Год назад
And the prize for the most over enginered wood chipper is... ;-)
@sebbes333
@sebbes333 Год назад
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* (sorry for spamming, but there is much to notice) :D 16:00 -ish. I think some kind of "align-er" thing would be helpful, maybe make several paired-slots in each of the end-stops top side, where you can insert another steel wall perpendicular to each end-stop (along the blade movement), so it sections off the space where the log is, so the log gets an extra side-wall, so it can't rotate. (also allows cutting 2 or 3 logs at the same time?) Maybe also add some kind of lid or weight or pressure thing, so the log cant raise up? . 19:11 Good :D (I'm very excited to see how this project will turn out) :D
@everestyeti
@everestyeti Год назад
Brilliant and looks like you're on the right track, sorry bit of a pun 🤗 Nice to see family helping each other out. I watch the other guys channel as well, must admit I am a bit addicted to people bringing old machines back to life and using them as intended. That guy has some other really good rebuilds on his site.
@kenrickman6697
@kenrickman6697 Год назад
You might try adding an angled infeed in line with the stroke, so that you can feel longer logs in and slice diagonally across the grain. Much line you tried form the side, but turn it 90 degrees. You could even Mouth it to one side, so that I’m the other side you could continue to feed in shorter pieces from the top as you are doing now.
@lagunafishing
@lagunafishing Год назад
Its obvious you'll need to apply mechanical downward pressure to each log to prevent them lifting or turning just as you would when plaining by hand. You might also need to consider setting your blade at an angle instead of attempting to cut straight on.
@danishtttestudios9365
@danishtttestudios9365 Год назад
Lovely machine you've created. The logs that got sliced kinda reminded me of chips for some reason. Can't wait to see more. Great job.
@ravenbarsrepairs5594
@ravenbarsrepairs5594 Год назад
The biggest problems your running into are due to using a shingle machine to split random wood. Shingles are made from very straight grained wood, and split along the grain, as any crosscutting results in avoidably exposed end grain, a pathway for moisture to get into the wood, and create rot, resulting in a shorter lifespan of the roof. As far as holding down the logs to prevent them from tilting up when thin, either a step in the push plat, allowing wood to slip under a hold down once it reaches a certain size or else simply welding some texture to the backstop(as some log splitters use) would likely work.
@perstaffanlundgren
@perstaffanlundgren Год назад
A "plane " type of wood shingle machine does not cut along the grain if the grain doesn't happens to line up with the cutting plane. To get true along the grain split shingle a splitting knife has to be used. And then the singles get shaped with axe for last adjustment. When the shingle machines was invented the prices of wood roof shingle , dropped, but also the quality of them , decreasing the life span of the roof surface.
@Henning_S.
@Henning_S. Год назад
You can also tilt the push plate slightly downwards, so when the blade pushes the log against the plate, the log wants to slide down on the angled plate which should prevent it from tilting up.
@sebbes333
@sebbes333 Год назад
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* Safety concerns: 13:08 risk of crushing the hands when the log twists or moves. 14:37 When extracting a log, I would recommend using some kind of tool, the simplest I can think of is a plank (baseball bat?) with a bunch of nails sticking THROUGH it, then just smash the nail-board onto the piece so it gets stuck on the nails & then lift up, don't put your hands near the blade or sled while moving .
@dotknieciemgly
@dotknieciemgly Год назад
Every moment I wish I had such a thing at my place :) Greetings from Poland.
@Redundant_Communication
@Redundant_Communication Год назад
And I get scared by normal sized mandolins! Great work as always Tim, looking forward to seeing it set up with the other machines.
@MaxMakerChannel
@MaxMakerChannel Год назад
Maybe a garbage grinder type mechanism would be more error proof? Those two spinning barrels with teeth on them.
@ShredPile
@ShredPile Год назад
Wonderful! I suppose the only problem I can see with the cut stroke putting the connecting rod in tension is that it makes it more difficult to incorporate the necessary (and essential) shear pin into the system. I can't bear to think what a full snort bind up will do to that beautiful inertia wheel that you've created but i'm pretty sure that it will fold itself up into a taco and go walkabout right over whatever is in the way be it animal, plant or mineral. I suppose a telescoping shaft with enough insertion length will allow the reciprocal action to continue without letting an unconnected end flail around in death mode. The question is really what size, shape, or grade of material will shear the best in tension vs compression with the most predictable results.
@tomslastname5560
@tomslastname5560 Год назад
A simple way to deal with pieces that are too thin to slice without jamming in the machine is to have some sort of clutch or a neutral gear that allows you to instantly disengage the machine from the flywheel so you can remove the obstruction. A clutch can also help prevent a jam from breaking the machine. It's also important to have some sort of emergency stop in any big machine like this anyway. I would also suggest building some sort of brake for the flywheel so you can stop it when you're done working. Perhaps it could be part of the emergency stop mechanism that disengages the clutch and applies the brake to the flywheel with just a single pull of a lever or something.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
The trouble is a clutch wouldn't be simple at all - unless you have a good idea for one?
@tomslastname5560
@tomslastname5560 Год назад
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 well, the more I think about it I suppose you're right. The principle of having some sort of lever to press a pressure plate against a disc connected to the flywheel (or pressing a wheel against a spinning drum) seemed simple enough until I started thinking about all the additional moving parts this would involve. Nonetheless I still think it's a worthwhile feature to consider even with all the extra work involved, just because of how much it would improve the safety and performance of the machine.
@middleway1885
@middleway1885 Год назад
Woooh!!!! Great stuff!!!
@tropifiori
@tropifiori Год назад
Fascinating
@djmoulton1558
@djmoulton1558 Год назад
What if instead of the anti-spin bar you simply put enough pieces of wood in the tray so that there isn't any room for the pieces to turn? If it works you would increase your production.
@jeffrippe6559
@jeffrippe6559 Год назад
As Crocodile Dundee once said, “Now that’s a knife!”… One of your best episodes yet! Love the creativity coming out of you shop.
@TheDemocrab
@TheDemocrab Год назад
as an Aussie I can say that Tim is definitely playing knifey-flywheelie with this
@wideyxyz2271
@wideyxyz2271 Год назад
Love these experiments and projects!
@Aaron_Cantrell
@Aaron_Cantrell Год назад
Would putting the blade at a 45 degree angle help with cutting?
@sebbes333
@sebbes333 Год назад
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 9:54 I don't like how close those bolt-heads are to each other, it feels like they could hook into each other & rip the whole thing apart, with that much momentum-energy in the wheel. Maybe some smooth-cover plate or anything (eg. more space?) between those Eccentric & Wheel bolt-heads? 11:27 😱😱😱
@herpderp264
@herpderp264 Год назад
One thing I'd suggest for hooking your wheel up to any machines is to use a wooden bar as the linkage, so if something gets jammed teh wood can break and hopefully prevent any damage to your wheel or the attached machinary. We had old sickle bar mowers that ran off of a crank shaft spun by a PTO on a Ranch I used to work on, and ot prevent any damage we would just use 1inch by 1inch sticks to run the mowers cyclical action. If something jammed the blades too hard the wood would snap but all the expensive, hard to repair bits would be safe.
@sebbes333
@sebbes333 Год назад
*@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff* 7:50 -ish. The easy solution (but not optimal), is to just stop cutting before the piece start to become dangerously thin. (but that is an multiple accident prone solution) Another solution would be to (somehow) rotate the log so it cuts either around the log continuously (along the grains of course), or when it starts to become thin, rotate it by 90 degree, so it slices the "slab" into "sticks" instead. (but that has also risks of many sorts of accidents). Further thinking is required...
@ivy7642
@ivy7642 Год назад
Perhaps some sort of feed throat that widens after allowing a log to drop onto the working space would help. The dimensions of the space would prevent logs going end-over-end and rotating, but it would impose a limitation on the dimensions of wood to be fed into the machine. I'm thinking of a stepped throat that catches things that try to drop in. Alternatively, perhaps a rotary tool that has blunt 'chewing edge' akin to a fly-cutter? It could be built at an angle to use the weight of the logs to drive them into the cutter, which would be more like a splitting wedge than a blade and anything that jumps back will simply fall back onto the cutting face. Like some sort of tunnel boring machine, but for wood.
@FrontierlessCraftsman
@FrontierlessCraftsman Год назад
I noticed you have it cutting on the pull stroke, would this make any difference then having it on the push stroke? Excellent fun as always !
@giorgos424
@giorgos424 Год назад
Hi there! How exciting! A massive log splitter!! May I suggest something that I thought while watching the video? It seems that holding the log down would help so that back wouldn't flip up and fall through the throat. Of course that is not very ergonomic but, If you tilted the whole assembly a few degrees to one side and put a slanted cover on top (forming something like a hopper) then you could throw the logs in the wide end and they would fall down to the narrower end as they get thinner with every slice. This would also mean that you use the full length of the blade so it doesn't get dull only on one side. Also, tilting the top of the rear log stoper downwards ( the one closer to the wheel) would help the back end of the log not lifting up. Of course you may have already considered a bunch of these solutions, but I thought I would just say it in case it helps! Good luck and thanks for sharing!!!
@DianeD862
@DianeD862 Год назад
We will be watching on later my husband loves watching you seeing what you come up with.We want to see Sandra sometime as well with all the animals.Your so interesting and genius.Wish you all the best and love to Sandra.GodBless.We just love Ireland 🇮🇪.🎉
@doriangoepp7915
@doriangoepp7915 Год назад
It might have been proposed hundreds of times: what about adding in the mechanism a part which would slip (like a torque limiter) or break (like a mechanical fuse) ? It might protect the machinery from badly breaking, as was the case with former ones, when something goes wrong with the cutting. But, more importantly, it could protect the machine operator from the damage a broken machine can make.
@linasvelavicius330
@linasvelavicius330 Год назад
a shear bolt is a common "mechanical fuse" in 2 stage snow blowers. They are not the best solution because damage still can occur before the bolts shears. The ideal would be some kind of manual and automatic decoupling system with an adjustable overload that would disengage the moving blade assembly while allowing the wheel to continue to rotate.
@jamesbrown99991
@jamesbrown99991 Год назад
You can add sprung/weighted plates above the log to hold it in line and stop it from rotating
@bilgeratjim
@bilgeratjim Год назад
I know there's a difference in terminology from one country to another, but over here in Canada, what you are making are called shakes. The difference? Shingles are sawn, and are a different thickness from one end to the other (like a wedge). Shakes are split, and are the same thickness throughout the length. Regardless, that's a wonderful shingle/shake mill you've built. 3 thumbs up!
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Thanks, Joe - but these aren't split either, so they're something in between?
@cygnusx7
@cygnusx7 Год назад
So cool Tim!
@bjornek2
@bjornek2 Год назад
The Swedish type of "shaver" is not, I believe, meant to cut along the grain entirely. At a smallish angle, it should cut across the grain too. The shingles, therefore, are never split, they are cut. This is also why the shingles have a curve to them. The cut is started at the back end of the log, i.e at the side of the log and not at the crosscut surface. You can see this very clearly in the video you are referencing. Look at how he started the cuts on each log. He made the cut at an angle and the log became slightly tapered. Perhaps this is not anything you can use, but I think tapered shingles perhaps are less prone to cause problems.
@rockcrusher4636
@rockcrusher4636 Год назад
Great shot at english, mycket bra, tappered.
@bjornek2
@bjornek2 Год назад
Indeed! It's actually 'tapered', I believe (not tappered). Updated now. Happy?
@rockcrusher4636
@rockcrusher4636 Год назад
@@bjornek2 Oj va du är en kaxig liten skit.
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman Год назад
I love your content. What a delight! Can't wait to see this develop.
@tommyscollection
@tommyscollection Год назад
I wonder if adding a box / hopper above the slicer which could be constantly topped up with other logs would solve the jumping problem by acting as weight on the logs when making kindling.
@princepixel1266
@princepixel1266 Год назад
You should also add a clutch between the wheel and the crank, that why if things do go wrong you can stop the cutter without trying to stop the engine and/or the momentum of the wheel.
@carld3184
@carld3184 Год назад
On a separate issue, would a second board under blade to create a narrow throat stop the slices from dropping and jamming the blade at 90 degrees. Slices could only drop the small distance from the blade to the throat underneath the blade. I give credit to another comment, not sure that I have explained it any better. For a test I would build the throat out of thin plywood, should collapse if it doesn't work. The leading edge of the throat restrictor would be located before the start of the blade. The other end of the throat could get slanted down to allow clearance of the shingles. I would start with a throat board that is about 10cm or less so the finished shingles can fall down quickly after being sliced. Keeping a full feed hopper for the logs might also help to hold the logs down.
@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299
Yes that might work, as long as nothing gets jammed in it. Thanks.
@jameskniskern2261
@jameskniskern2261 Год назад
I didn't see the shingle cutter coming! Great idea. Perhaps a kind of weighted log holder to keep things from moving about? A board with sharpened nails or some such, like that vegetable mandolin holder to keep the vegetables moving through the blade at the correct angle. it will put some dents in the log, but should hold it steady.
@Chordially
@Chordially Год назад
a diagonal cutting edge would it help opposing less force to the pushing mecanism ? Very interesting video once more. Thanks a lot
@stefanrees8738
@stefanrees8738 Год назад
Oh a replica of a medieval finger remover!
@ThatNorwegian101
@ThatNorwegian101 Год назад
Looking forward to future videos 👍
@londonnight937
@londonnight937 Год назад
Lovely video Tim!
@Shadesu14
@Shadesu14 Год назад
Hey Tim try to hold the log from the oposite site of the wheel at 13:31 You holding the log from the Site of the cutter try to hold it from the back of the cutter along the long site. In the video the log comes from the down left site bt if it woulf be comming from top left it would be cutted.
@noname-nd8ec
@noname-nd8ec Год назад
Tim..so I saw this space shuttle taking off and thought of making one myself..how hard can it be. Just start at the beginning Tim, you'll work it out.
@seanrodden6151
@seanrodden6151 Год назад
Push-sticks, not fingers to rearrange logs! Goodness, Tim!
@denniswoycheshen
@denniswoycheshen Год назад
Damn, time to sit down with a cup of coffee and listen to words of wisdom with tim. Amazing!!
@markmedia8252
@markmedia8252 Год назад
You need a plate of steel on a arm and hinge the presses down on the log that will stop it from jumping and moving
@jessegalea5524
@jessegalea5524 Год назад
Have you thought about a emergancy brake for the system incase it goes pear shaped
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Год назад
Awesome work. I think a one direction clamp is needed. Like a plate that holds the wood down and drops on a rachet type mechanism each time a layer is taken off but won't lift up causing the issues. I think some sash clamps have that type of feature that you could modify? Great job. Looking forward to developments cheers J
@tezza6676
@tezza6676 Год назад
What would happen if you put five logs across so that it couldn’t spin.
@sinisterhipp0
@sinisterhipp0 Год назад
6:14 have a heavy latched lid holding the wood flat. Stopping it cocking upwards and twisting.
@sinisterhipp0
@sinisterhipp0 Год назад
1 month later and it turns out this was the answer.
@carld3184
@carld3184 Год назад
I also vote for an angled cutting blade as in angled across the width of the cut.
@DC-uo5hy
@DC-uo5hy Год назад
Appears to be a old stiff style rotary brush blade for a tractor implement.
@roadsouzinkie
@roadsouzinkie Год назад
Maybe you could re-sharpen the blade to make it a better, cleaner angle and then set the angle of attack like a cabbage cutter.
@waaduu6189
@waaduu6189 Год назад
Maybe inclining the back wall and/or putting some teeth on it would prevent the flipping up?
@ErickBuildsStuff
@ErickBuildsStuff Год назад
You should take notes from a guillotine with a blade that is in a diagonal. This will bite the wood from a corner and keep it stable without moving. You can see certain well made vegetable slicer. Another crazy idea would be to make large log chopper similar to a veggie chopper 🤣 for this you might need to store energy in a flywheel and release it when needed.
@charickter
@charickter Год назад
KEEP ALL FINGERS AND TOES OUTSIDE THE VEHICLE AT ALL TIMES 😁
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 Год назад
I think your problem might be that you're using a single blade. You might be further ahead with multiple blades, arranged in sort of a 'cheese grater' fashion so that they're each tearing a very small section off the log, in different places and at different angles, rather than one blade trying to split the whole log.
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