Homeworld 2 | Campaign | Ep 4 

Ion canons will ionize dust clouds, damaging anything in them, that might be the reason you took casualties in the first fight, along with the fact that HW2 frigates are made a jello, and wet tissue paper in general. Also, the heavy missiles are the Vaygr equivalent to ion cannons on the Hiigaran side, with most of the same strengths and weaknesses, hit them with strike craft.

Still need to point out that you need to build a Frigate and Capital Ship production modules on your Mothership, along with a Corvette production module on your Carrier. That way you can build multiple ships of the same type faster since your carriers are not like Vagyer carriers limited to only one production. Also with Capital Ship module on your Mothership you can build more carriers and eventually Destroyers.

"The Vaygr were alerted to our presence. Admiral Shack came out of lightspeed to close to the system" :D

For some reason, the shipyard in this mission has more than double the health of normal shipyards. Also remember that you can target individual facilities to stop them from buikding ships while you destroy the carriers/shipyards.

RE: Formations. They were pretty broken in the initial release of Remastered, but as of the 2.0 patch they're MOSTLY functional (you really should be playing with the 2.3 Fan Patch because it has a bunch of additional fixes). They do work a lot differently than they did in both Homeworld 1 and 2, with there being caps on how many ships of any given type can be in a formation. The reason your formations keep breaking up is because YOU ARE NOT USING THE STANCES AND TACTICS. Mouse over that column of buttons to the immediate left of your selected ship and it will tell you what they do. Aggressive makes your ships hold formation no matter what.

if fleet size determins difficulty then you would be smart to upgrade everything you can, keep your fleet smaller more elite

Mildly cool that sending out a sensor ping alerted the enemy to start probing you.

Frigates are made of wet toilet paper in HW2, also Gearbox didn't really mess up formations in Remastered. The entire remaster was built on top of HW2's original code/engine. Formations and corvette behavior were unfortunately casualties with trying to get everything to work normally again shoehorned into something so old. It was SOOOOO much worse when Remaster launched, so its come a long way just unfortunately never to where it should've been.

gearbox broke the formations in homeworld 1 because the original formation system didn't really do the same thing when they ported the game into the HW2 engine. Then they somewhat fixed that in a patch a few years back. The formations in homeworld 2 are working just fine. edit: Also, the repair craft in these games can be set to repair a group of ships. It's like using ctrl for attack, you hold the modifier key (Y or Z? can't remember) and draw a box around the group you want to support with repairs. Kind of like using G to guard ships.

Shack when you say you can attack and move at the same time, that ONLY works if you use attack move! Other wise you will just having moving ships doing nothing.

This is a perfect time to use waypoints when moving the fleet, saves constantly doing smaller move orders.

Strike craft and corvettes works best as hit and run units. Move in fast, do damage, then fall back and dock to repair and replenish. This makes them last MUCH longer and gets you a lot more for your investment of resources. Take out a few squadrons or a frigate or two? Dock. Lull in the action? Dock. Strip a shipyard of its modules? Dock.

Ion Frigates are glass cannons. You cannot have them on the front line, that's what torpedo and Flak Frigates are for.

The mission at the start was the one that caught me for a long long time. Eventually, if you try to grab resources for enough time, the enemy starts dropping probes into the dust and finds you. That reinforcement fleet is massive and will totally destroy you, no matter what you do. The only way to succeed is to remain covert.

I got weirdly excited when i saw this video in my recommended, i really enjoy this series, keep it up!

awesome episode playing through the original homeworld 2 pc game i have been years since i played it thanks capt shack for your great content all the best from Scotland

Don’t be afraid to get some research done. Those armor and speed upgrades for ships can really come in handy.

Hey Shak use carriers or support frigates to flank and get bombers and corvettes to the enemy mothership early!

Next episode, awesome! Any HW titel and difficulty is really its own field of science. Please do HW: Emergency if you do have the time and you are still in HW mode after this campaign. It is still soooo good, even though it is not remastered.

@TheXPGamers one of the major changes they made between homeworld 1 and homeworld 2 is how attacks work. In homeworld 1 they use ballistics so you can actually block shots with ships and terrain, and when a ship died their munitions exploded as well, so killing a ship fast enough could negate some of the damage. Homeworld 2 is hit scan, meaning that an attack either hits or misses, no blocking shots, and if the shot hit, then it will always hit even after the ship that fire it is destroyed.

Lol, he's just flailing wildly in space.

All I can thing about the entire time is that Shack needs to make the Capitol Ship Production modules. Like for the past few episodes, thats all I can think about. It bothers me soooo much.

Some random fleet commander copied you Shack around 35 minutes, they even had movie screen time. Basically the same lines (OMG!!!! Fire!!!! Fire everything!!!!!!) was the quote. I’m really enjoying the series and can’t wait to have caught up 😎👍👍

This mission is so more tedious than it actually would be where you could just tell your pilots not to leave the dust cloud.

So I don't know about home world 2 but home world one has a rebalance patch that fixes a lot of issues that gearbox missed. It also adds a difficutly slider that dictates the amount of additional ships that come from fleet scaling. While I grimace at mods that might games too easy, I also dislike scaling, especially aggressive scaling

The soundtrack for this game is very much like the reimaged Battlestar Galactica.

I am just here lurking until Thaddis Shabbah comes up.

You should consider playing one of the complex mods after this campaign, keep up the great videos

Absolute great game, makes me wish more and more that I had a pc

The resource drop off ships (carriers etc) will automatically select the best location if you send them (right click move navigate, I think) directly to the asteroid then the collector units will self organize more efficiently.

You’re going to need a lot of anti-corvette in the next mission

Hello Captain, here's just an idea that I used and it worked the entire way through to the end of the game, its 6 Flack-, 6 Torpedo- and 6 Ion cannon Frigates and just put them all in one group

It'd be sweet if you could capture that shipyard and just drag it around from mission to mission lol

Love your gameplay Shack keep up the good work and I hope you will play homeworld 3 when it comes out Man!!!!!

Gonna need a lot of bombers in the next mission for the next encounter

I need this like 100% more often

I have been waiting for this all week

Bad puns will always result in a like from me. Bad puns are worth their weight in tyberium.

You lost frigates because the heavy missile frigates prioritize other frigates first. Found this out the hard way

When are we gonna get more X3AP episodes? I’ve very much missed the series

As much as it pains me to admit, the Vaygr have better fleet combat doctrine than the Higaraans. They use lots of effective strike crafts and most of their frigate and capitals have some kind of fire-and-forget weapon system. Even if you kill the ship that fired it, the missile will continue to its target. On the other hand, Higaraans depend more on direct-fire physical and energy munitions. They have, as a rule better firepower, but kill an Ion Cannon frigate, and its beam disappears instantly. If I were to compare to real world navies I'd say the Vaygr resembles WWII's American Navy while the Higaraans have a more Kriegsmarine feel to them, minus the U-boats. It would have been nice to have stealth units like in HW1...

Shack, for constructive criticism, I would like to point out that heavy missile frigates do ALOT of damage with each missile, especially when they focus down. Ions do some pretty nasty damage as long as they keep themselves aligned on target and keep them focused down, a single one can do decent damage but with the Vaygr flinging their super powerful fusion-nuke (I think it is, correct me if I'm wrong) missiles and concentrating fire much like your forces are, expect to take casualties. Also the concussion missiles, (I think that's what they're called, the ones on the top) are mostly backup weapons really, mostly good against fighters/corvettes and not much else. Unless your playing Homeworld Complex where Anti-Missile PD is a thing and *mostly* works. (I do mean mostly but there are moments where enough missiles can get through just by lobbing enough of them at something.)

Shack we need wasted vs you in multiplayer

You need to stop creating separate groups and then grouping those groups within another group. I kept noticing that you'd give orders to a specific set of ships to go take out a target, then you'd select "Group 6" - which contains those ships you just tasked to a different objective - and then have "Group 6" attack a *different* target. Its why your Marine Cruisers kept getting retasked from taking over ships. You also kept losing a lot of your fleet because of this. There was also resources out in the open near the mother ship right behind you, you were complaining about them being in the open early on in the mission, so I'm shocked that you were so focussed on going after the resources closer to the front - especially since you didn't move the mothership up at all. You should have sent your resource collectors after *those* resources, the enemy would have had to go through your mothership to get to your resource collectors and would have given you time to defend them.

torpedo frigates are superior in hw2 to Ion and Marine frigates are a waste. They are the first thing targeted and never make it to target. If they do they are killed before the ship can be taken

Capture everything

i had no idea that the missions scale difficulty with ship numbers from the start of the mission....no wonder i got pounded big time on this one

Wowser, everything was great until the frigate fleet arrived. Then you tried to to fiddle with your fleet's positioning

I wish there was another deserts of karak

Should have had 3 groups of fighters and bombers go after the first 3 hard points. At the same time. Then swarm the last one and take it over with Space Marines! Corvettes are too slow

@TheXPGamers what ever happened to the stargate conflict mod you did a review on 4 or so years ago happened?

in the original version i modded my marine firgates to go very fast and i could get this mission done in like 30 seconds but not possible anymore because win 10 "hides" all the necessary ships files which is a huge bummer; also i don't use harvesters in this mission they do not stay in the dust clouds.

Someone should make a BSG mod for this game, because it would fit the mechanics rlly well

>being this much of a coombrain

You should also check out the Star Wars mod for this game or the previous game

Looking up information from the old "Well of Souls" website. It says that you can get the gun/ion platforms to follow the ship that builds them. Anyone knows if this still works? Would help with carrier survival if it "baby ducks" a few platforms.

Did you hear about home world 3 coming out?

FINALLY

Like,comments,see shack fail...I mean succeed.

I was so confused when doing that mission but then I simply said fuck it and headbutted the problem until my marine frigate sneaked in during the chaos! I even thought that I lost it in combat but nope! mission was completed XD

Even Shack agrees that Vaygr ships have the superior aesthetic to Hig ships

Fire everything

Hay shake I am having trouble with the Third Mission

Yass!!!

more please!!!!

What's the point of gathering resources if these remasters give you all the resources at the end of each level anyway? They should at least allow you to turn that option off, i.e. classic mode.

Is it just me or doe's the Vagyr Shipyard look like a Gravyboat?

i dont know why you keep grabbing bombers to fight fighters, and im surprised you have not tried to cap a shipyard would be intresting if you could

Hey shack I love your star wars awakening of the rebellion videos and I had a challenge for you. When you take corellia I want you to make a defensive fleet of 3 corellian battle ships several corellian destroyers cr90s with han solo leading it with garm and a battle group of dreadnaughts as back up no other ships can be in that fleet unless I mentioned them

Homeworld reminds me of stargate universe, except with a better story arc.

Whens the next episode Shack?

can't capture enemies shipyard?

When is ep5 on

Shack, your puns are bad and you should feel bad!

Do Research

Ughhhh is he seriously not gonna build capitol ships yet when he can? So annoying

great game. crap single player mission design