Homeworld 3 Review - Very Disappointing 

Been preaching this for years and you are 100% right but sadly we are out numbered by shills and apologists both in the review industry and the consumers, until they go I can't see things getting any better.

Just play older games, it's not like we don't have 5 decades worth of masterpieces available already. Also we still get some bangers every now and then.

Indies are the way

@@WorthABuyreviews Damn right about that. Worse off is that I wouldn't be surprised if Blackrock or Vanguard have influenced this game since the story is crap.

Wanted to say something in those lines, you are absolutely right. My 2 cents would be to just don't have hope for good quality games and you will not be disappointed, play older stuff and some new indies here and there who are actually good, 💩 is not worth our time, fuk reviews, obtain 💩 in other ways to properly try it, if that way games stick with you more than 3 days buy it. That would be the main way to fight the BS and of course the second (harder) path would be to start making your own games with love. I actually expected hw3 to suck after seeing the first trailer, tone is 💩, strategy is 💩 and everything else is 💩 except maybe ship designs are ok. This will be the pattern for many years until the suck era of games pass by. Cheers.

I'm guessing most of the devs who made the original games no longer work there. It's long enough that some are probably even retired at this point. Kind of crazy eh?

@@mablesfatalfable6021you are spot on. Nothing is original anymore. Everything is just remakes and remasters or horrible sequels in the movie arena. It is because meritocracy is being replaced with victimhood and identity politics.

Obligatory uglification of the Fleet Command girl with each iteration...

Every studio seems to think that "modern" (not DEI, but 2024 in general) audience = stupid+lazy = give easy games, blizz said something about "starcraft 2 was too hard for a 2010 game" during some conference lol, every company out of touch

Meritocracy is being replaced by identity politics and victimization. One reason nothing is original these days from games, movies and TV

Try out Nebulous Fleet Command when you get a second! Entirely capital ship based at the moment but to me it is the only space combat system that gives Homeworld 1 a run for its money

I love #2 but each to their own.

@@legendmir1 HW2 with mods is pretty great.

I know I have played Homeworld 1, but apparently not on Steam, well, zero chance I will give more money to these people.

Cataclysm was the best for me. It's so sad to see devs treat this beloved franchise like another cash grab. There's just something rotten about the gaming industry these days.

Nope just wait for Sins of a Solar Empire 2. it has a steam page now.

Real shame, I could have got into this one.

Was hoping something good, hopes dashed.

Everything is memba berries and bait, smoke and mirrors. Gamers have nothing now. I quit gaming and feel happier enjoying other hobbies.

@@Dirge_Prime Must say that it doesn't look better than the old one either.

Not anyone, but deliberately activists with certain political views. Every. Sngle. Time.

@@Jackfromshack I feel like at this point AI can write better stories than those people..

They should've just asked ChatGPT to write a story

SBI was consulted. I was actually banned in a steam discussion by a dev for just bringing up sweet baby inc. They are insane. Said it was "hate speech" LOL

@@Jackfromshack How is this about activism? Also, what qualifies as activism here? This is just about good and bad writing and specifically in-game storytelling. From what I see, they seem to have gone too far into the "overexplain everything" school of storywriting which seems to be modern (because it's the logical result of Wikipedia-fandom and online fan culture), but that has nothing to do with political views.

I lost interest when I saw Denuvo being used. Then read some of the Steam reviews and any level of "if it's amazing I might just let that pass" vanished.

Pre-order exclusive content AND a season pass AND Denuvo. Just how many red flags can they pack into a single release?

I don't have a problem with pre-order content, if it's just cosmetics. Backers that lend their money without seeing the product deserve some special treatment, to compensate them for the risk they are taking. Season pass is a bit silly for a game like this... usually subscriptions are warranted when the developer has to run servers, and intends to continually update the game. I doubt that's going to happen here.

@@chrishoppner150 They added more red flags than the big ones you mentioned. - No real gameplay was shown past the lack luster demo (No review copies went out ahead with a couple of days ahead of release like they tried to hide something) - The game was delayed for the regular edition - Or as they call it early access for the ones willing to pay more - The game pass ONLY had content for the game mode everyone seemed least interested in. - The eula basically turns all your digital life ownership to them (not that it supersedes laws... but narrow sighted seems to think it does :)) My 2 cents - The dev should have worked and listened more with the community and not their own hubris - Its plain as day!

Have you heard of pirating?

It was so unique at the time, I put so many hours into just skirmishes with AI.

lol, the missions in the first game take like 30 minutes on a hardmode run through on the first time bud.

i had play both 1 and 2 in 90 and ofc the remaster, it was nearly never as long as multi-hour battle, i believe we was young, and was lost at this time trying figure how it was work. each missions of the campaign of 1 and 2 was extremely short. At the moment you know what to do and where was the objective primary or secondary. ... No internet for help figure thing and mechanics who at this time could have been obscure. nostalgia is offtly only nostalgia in games. ( just say i was play on atarist in middle of 80 ). It seems fans of HW, the comunity are quite divised on it. you get good and bad review, i don't know if it is just the expectations who is too much high.. the story is effectevily not great ( not that the 1 and 2 was a miles better). I respect all opinions and i can understand each point of view.. the campaign is short i tend to believe the game is a good comeback and all the additional mode, warmode, skirmish and the multiplayer should bring a bit more than the campaign.

and cataclysm let you mine out on some maps, while on others it gave you an incentive to leave asap (often in the form of an incoming enemy fleet too big for you to handle)

Because the game would be so easy you could do it with your eyes closed if they let you repair and mine the map afterwards. It's the only way they know how to artificially increase the difficulty.

@@SteelExoskeleton They also scaled the size of the enemy army based on what you had available. This wasn't a perfect system but it felt good to play and was immersive. If you felt like you needed to be patient and build your fleet, you would be justified because the enemy fleet was huge. If you rushed because the story made it seem like you should, you weren't punished.

And pirate anything by Rockstar, EA, Take Two, Paradox...

Or any game with woke

​@diego2817 that's just any game with a women for you guys...

@@maskofsan1ty then why ai like tomb raider, resident evil etc? No dude, one thing is a woman in game and other thing is a woman empowered, Marie Sue that hates white men

​@@maskofsan1ty Nobody is calling Stellar Blade woke

That aspect is quite baffling to me since the Incarnate as a faction and the setting in a barely known sector of space filled with Progenitor megaliths would seem like a good setting to do that. The fact we don't even encounter any Progenitor automata like movers drones and keepers is particularly strange.

You realize there is more to the game than just the campaign, right?

@@AvalineSky go buy it then.. I won''t!

@@AvalineSky well.... he is right tho... as you say we get 4-6h and there is stuff beside the campaing, the problem is that we used to get the side stuff beside the campaing before AND the bloody campaing used to be 15-20 h, FOR THE SAME PRICE, that's what he is actually saying when he says only 4-6 h camp, i swear so many people talk about the multyplayer and side mods part of the game like it's something that people came up with JUST a few years ago and that's why the camp are so short and shit, when in realty we got that shit before WITH a LONG AND SATYSFYING CAMP

@@Sigrid_Von_Sincluster I fully agree.. and i remember 60 hour campaigns.

@@AvalineSky There was supposed to be more, but the rest of it sucks just as bad if not more.

Why not play it rather than going of this clowns videos

​@@dazuk2630 we all played it and refunded because of this issue

Just another example of modern gaming slop. Everyone should be weary of any ip coming out now, woke bs aside.

It is a sad age indeed. HW1 was an absolute masterpiece. To see it’s legacy reduced to this is an abomination.

Elaborate?

@@15975322 They unilaterally give themselves the right to gather and sell pretty much all of your personal information. All of it. Seriously, it's a horrifying read.

​@@15975322Just read it. You don't want a summary of something that controlling and predatory.

Does it require your first born?

They give themselves license to collect data like: - first/last name - e-mail address - residential address - telephone number - photographic images (if uploaded by user) - credit card information, if provided to their third-party payment processors for purchases - shipping information, if provided for purchases - country - game device identifier - screen name - demographic information (age, gender, date of birth, marital status, race, level of education, etc.), if you choose to provide it in profiles, surveys or forums, such as an application to become one of their playtesters Some of these are obviously less reasonable than others. There's no opt out to data gathering in general. They also say they might grab your MAC-address.

I was not expecting Skibidi Toilet level of cinematics. When the Queen started zipping around Sjet's dreams I was dying.

@@bfrehksdhf Skibidi Toilet has a better story and better facial proportions

The moment I saw her face I was disappointed. I can not believe they made a main character look like that. Also you can see in one of the earlier trailers, they actually made a decent looking human face but apparently scrapped it for a bog chin.

Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man

@@RvBy88 thank you Donny!

@@thedudeabides3138 Pardon me it seems I'm a bit out of my element

@@RvBy88 so you have no frame of reference here….you’re like a child who wanders in in the middle of a movie….

@@thedudeabides3138 What?? You're entering a world of pain!!

I think when gaming as a whole became more mainstream, it was just inevitable that things would get watered down. The flip is now money > passion when it should be the inverse.

A crash is needed for sure: this is exactly what happened in the late 80’s and the crash led to a resurgence of fresh and entertaining games in the 90’s and 2000’s as the developers needed to regain the consumers trust.

thats because of the scaling options, if you actually disable it the scale returns to normal (I literally did this in the first tutorial mission because it bothered me a considerable amount)

Never support weasels. Never.

Big fan of the first one, Cataclysm and Deserts of Kharak. Played the demo for this and then bought the full game on release and played for about 10 minutes. Refunded because I immediately got a bad vibe. Maybe in a year at a hefty discount.

@@firstandlastname6194 I'm getting intense Dawn of War 3 vibes from this one.

@@CheeseDanish85 Yeah. I have a feeling this is dead on arrival for a number of reasons. The subreddit appears to be going through the stages of grief with users at various points in the process of that. This is where the IP dies for the foreseeable future unfortunately I believe. Maybe Gearbox sells the IP for cents on the dollar in 5 to 10 years. Another studio tries again in 15 years. I wish the IP would go to a better publisher. Imagine if it went to Valve, who made Half Life while being published by Sierra who also published the original Homeworld. The IP in my opinion requires a 'benevolent' publisher for the real vision and appeal of the IP to carry through. Its a huge shame because I think all things considered BBI hit it out of the park with Deserts of Kharak. Played the campaign through about 4 times now. Homeworld remastered released at roughly the same time so it was a golden period for Homeworld that maybe wasn't appreciated as much as it should have been. The Dawn of War 3 comparison is apt in many ways. If publishers expected a live service model to justify the existence of Homeworld 3, then its done for. Thats not even taking into account they appear to have hitched their horse to the MOBA wagon. Ill be in my mid to late 50's potentially before someone has another run at it, once again its a real shame because Deserts of Kharak was the last time we got Homeworld, it was great in its style and gameplay and I think under celebrated.

It's a gearbox after all. See what they did with borderlands adventure.

I will not pay to get propagandized, I can get that for free. Plus, Denuvo? Zero chance I will buy any game that has it from any publisher.

@@charlesfranks1902 100%. Political propaganda, of any kind, has no place in video games. We have to reject it until they either stop or go broke.

@@Jackfromshackthis makes me feel much better about being banned. I hope gearbox digs their own grave into bankruptcy. Bunch of bigots

How is it DEI infested? Because fleet command is a woman and the captain is a black man? Complaining about that shows you know nothing about the universe

@@AvalineSky dem cutscenes.

​@@AvalineSky Well we know it is DEI infested because it is extremely forced, not natural.

@@AvalineSky If you are incapable to see the woke tropes by this point, that's astonishing.

@@speckbretzelfan these fake actors keeps pretend like it is still 2015 and no one know what is "woke" about. Outdated instructions

the gameplay IMO is pretty good, though I have a few gripes with it. The roadmap they have proposed seems quite good with two new "factions" (remained to be seen on what that entails) by the end of the year, alongside new maps. If they actually deliver on that, homeworld 3 will have a fleshed out multiplayer experience for quite a long time, and with the modding support it will have quite a lot going for it. However, if you want a deep and entertaining campaign story similar to HW1 or 2, look elsewhere.

The remaster of HW2 was fine, it was nice to get Heidi to record all the voice lines so there would be a consistent Fleet Command across both games. As for the remaster of 1, that was beyond terrible: just a port of the missions into the HW2 engine, sacrificing a lot on the way! Formations are completely broken, projectile simulation was swapped for RNG with a percentage chance to hit, there's no more fuel on strike craft (the gameplay mechanic the Kadeshi have an entire ship designed around), and they even broke visual things like turrets recoiling.

What's online like?

You shouldn't need to...

haha i used to do that in homeworld 2 :D

steam moderators are politically biased miscreants.

dont worry, female character faces looking like they were stung by bees is all I needed to know they were involved XD

Yeah it was obvious from the woman in the cutscene looking like Herman Munster.

Its not that bad, you loose like 2 FPS lol

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi How's that boot taste?

@@richardhunter9779 Like that im loosing 2 FPS and now? are you unable to watch comparisons on RU-vid? Its not a big deal. 5-10 FPS if its really bad but thats rare.

It's wild how you'll hand out all your info to every data broker on the planet, then get uppity about Denuvo and Gearbox collecting the same data thats collected about you off all the platforms the game is sold on anyway lol

@@CaptainSkuzzy it's not just about handing your data over in this case though - there's a non-negligible performance impact which is further exacerbated in this game given how CPU-bound and poorly optimized it is (players are reporting nearly the same performance regardless of whether they're using 3060 or 4090). they're probably gonna ditch Denuvo some months down the line though (there's a monthly cost in keeping it attached, and generally speaking only Ubisoft and EA are known to keep it indefinitely), and they're going to hail it as an 'optimization patch' lol.

It's on steam... so why should you have to verify yourself? I play the game since launch and had no problems at all :)

@@Melkor1205 Idk. I've never bought a Denuvo game I've just heard that it requires an online connection to verify you as the original purchaser.

They are all pretty much equal tbh.

@@WorthABuyreviews Thank you, joined your channel.

Btw 4-6h campaign is beyond BS. That's how long some of the missions in the first one took to solve (they were hard) and complete. I remember spending days thinking of the best strategy to complete some missions.

Yeah. I mean the tragic thing is RTS is a stagnant genre because it's effectively been left to molder and rot since the mid 2000's when Halo 2 and Halo 3 broke open gaming to a mainstream market, and then Call of Duty 4 collectively transformed the industry to "play it safe" for 20 years straight. An example: Between 2000 and 2012 a tremendous amount of change happened in gaming. Virtually nothing like what was coming out in early 2000's was coming out by late 2000's, and by 2012 was considered intolerably old to a lot of people and outdated. Dragon's Dogma came out in 2012. Dragon's Dogma 2 came out in 2024. Annnnnd they're basically identical games in all the ways that matter once you get past the visuals and the trappings of the setting; and play almost identically. Big studios like Gearbox are stagnant as fuck.

Haters living off of the negative energy?

@@cyberangel82 not taking such low quality bait anymore

The AI in every homeworld is brain dead, though.

@CaptainSkuzzy It's even worse due to the fact it has really low ship counts and the fact that ships can't exist outside a group. It's very streamlined.

BG3 is good tho

the way i sum it up: it's Deserts of Karak in space.Tied to homeworld and has a few homeworld vibes, but this is no true homeworld game.

Please be respectful and use the full title "Gearbox Managing Director of Narrative Writing Lin Joyce" :p

Yes unfortunately , Empress have gone into hiding after someone ratted him out , and other rumor is just as bad . Denuvo finally win ?

It didnt though. If you know the universe, the main characters make sense to be who they are

@@AvalineSky doesnt make sense for them to be this butt-ugly though, another hallmark of DEI, as is the banning anyone mentioning the presence of DEI influence. And while karan being a woman is already established (and naturally should stay as such), the current fleet command (which is just younger karan) and the main villain didnt need to be. Cataclysm already showed that you can have a homeworld game without fleet command beign a woman, and makaan showed its not a woman-only thing to plug oneself into a ship either. So no, out of Karan herself its not them just following the setting: thats a deliberate choice.

and you have also Cataclysm's story that shows that you can take the setting on a completely different route and have it WORK too.

@@thorveim1174 i had totally forgotten about that. Thou i havent played it. I have seen a playthru of it. And the story in that is really good too.

homeworld 2 does an instaleave, but it also automatically and instantly gives you all the ressources remaining on the map, basically mining out the while map without you having to spend the time doing it. Here seems what you dont mine is just lost instead, and they dont give you a chance to mine anything post-mission either.

@@thorveim1174 so it was optional?

@@jacobhederstrom8198 in 2 no, but the main reason you would usually want to stay post-mission (gathering all ressources) was basically automated. A case of an instaleave that gives you what you would most likely want to stay for instantly

@@thorveim1174 another reason would be to repair your ships. did it do that too.

@@jacobhederstrom8198 I honestly dont remember for that point. But at the time I know it was mainly seen as speeding up the process of end missions in HW1 where you often just had to wait a long time for collectors to finish grabbing everything (Cataclysm making the process more bearable by allowing you to speed up the game)