Honestly mustang guys are just pissed for no reason. You wouldn’t have the v8 still in the mustang if it wasnt for the mach-e. Just be glad it didnt get the same treatment as the camaro did. I dont like suvs anymore than you guys do but you gotta admit that it was a smart business decision. Its one of the best selling EV’s even if Ev’s arent sell well.
I'm shocked there hasn't been a 4 door mustang already. Dodge sold hundreds of thousands of chargers over the years. Never understood why ford didn't give it a shot. I also think a Lincoln version to compete more directly with 3/4 series would be a no brainer
There is its called the mach-e. Also the charger didn’t make sense in the lineup to have two 2 doors so thats why they made it a 4 door also so they could sell it cops.
I think it would be worth doing more modded car reviews after seeing how successful your recent Miata video was. For example. I love seeing car videos of cars with commonly done mods on them. Videos like that make you excited thinking about how you’d actually own it
@@Angryeddie14 I love it! Could use more power though... Be sure to get the 2.0 naturaly aspirated, which is more reliable than the turbo and can be tuned up to have way more power.
The civics only purpose now is to up sell to the accord. Want a more powerful hybrid? Buy the accord. Want the 12.3 screen? Buy the accord. Want rear ac vents ? Buy the accord
Farley may be referring to the ‘Mustang’ nameplate appearing on an all electric or SUV vehicle. The Mach-E has the Mustang horse on it but not the actual nameplate. I’m thinking that what Farley meant by his statement as a lot of the public don’t see the Mach-E as a Mustang.
ah, didn’t know that, well you have one and know better than I do. I have a 2021 Mustang now but if I were to buy an EV the Mach-E would be my first choice. 👍
Honda did not drop all manual transmissions..they only dropped the manual option in the 2025 civic base sport touring. They will still offer manual in the si. So, they basically took away the cheapest Honda stick you could buy new. Now a manual Honda civic will cost over $30k with transport costs included
Maybe Ford will drop the Mustang name from the Mach E?! Keeping it around just taking it out of the mustang lineup so to speak. That would be the best decision ever imo!
Sounds like he's referring to the two door performance car. Yes, we all know the Mach E has the Mustang name...yet we all call it the Mach E. I'm sure Detroit calls it Mach E as well. I wouldn't dig much into this with the Mach E changes around the corner + fleet demand (ie: law enforcement and city vehicles)
RIP manual non-Si/Type R Civics, the take rate was so low because Honda refused to make them available! There is no such thing as manual cars sitting on lots anymore, all of the new Si's and Sport Touring models with the manuals had a responsive market and always had buyers. I bought my 2023 Si for MSRP and I'm sure somebody bought the bright blue manual Sport Touring hatchback that was beside it shortly after.
Honda also dropped most of the European features for Americans. Its a shame not to have rear vents and USB, and no pano roof offered. time to add vented seats! Spoiler Alert: the Buick Envista offers heated steering wheel and power lift-gate, but Honda stays blinded to offering them in the Civic.
This new Honda Civic looks really nice. The hybrid option for most people has zero drawbacks. It's distinctly gonna be faster than the Si. They both have the same horsepower, because the new Si has only only 200 hp. I think Honda is just doing the same thing as everyone else and leaving the manual transmission to the enthusiast models. Thanks for the great review.
The EV3 will be a success here if it's priced right. Less-fast fast-charging speeds is not the end of the world. For those many buyers who fast charge zero-to-a-few times a year, 18 minutes versus 30 is just a little more time drinking a coffee or texting at rest area. It would be nice for everything to get 800V and all that, but whatever gets more AFFORDABLE EV's to market sooner, I'm all for it. That's what we need.
@@MattMaranMotoring true. But the lease loophole tax credit might not last forever (I'm hoping it lasts long enough to create a cheap lease on the inappropriately priced 2024 500e). The low end of the EV6 lineup isn't quite low enough, though. 20k cars might be drying up, but we need good 25-30k EVs that don't rely on tax credit to hold that price. I'm hopeful this thing will be a formidable gen2 Bolt competitor, and that Hyundai/Kia are just gonna keep doing the lord's work with E-GMP.
I’d like to see for each kind of car you review you use it in a way that everyone who is looking to buy that car would do. Off-road with off-road vehicles or have us tag along with a ride with you and the family to Mc Donald’s and around town with a daily driver like a new Camry instead of taking it on the same test ride. You can make two videos of each vehicle you get for a week, like one like your normal solid review and another with how it’s like to truly use the vehicle the the way it was designed for. Keep it up Matt!
The Jim Farley interview makes a lot more sense if you think about Fords earnings call a few weeks ago. They lost a ton of money on EVs. Many of these EVs lose money. Without government subsidies, most would lose all money. Theres been a real shift in the battery market too with a lot of companies going under. Investors are nervous since the tech just isnt there yet.
Those calculations on losses per unit sold are almost never accurate. What people need to realize is basically all OEMs are in the process of building factories, developing platforms, carrying out R and D, etc. These things require billions of dollars, and you don't see a return on investment for years until those products go on sale. Imagine it this way, if a fast food chain spent a million dollars on a restaurant, once they served a customer, some websites could report that that restaurant loses a million dollars on every item sold. It's the same logic being used by people who are reporting these EV losses.
@@themidnighttavern6784 I mean sure but the problem is that this level of R&D is not typical for a private company and other private companies that have engaged in this type of R&D have failed before the tech was produced on a mass scale. Battery tech just isn't there yet for mass adoption. Even the companies that make batteries admit this. Battery factories are also going belly up right now. It would be one thing if the tech was just super expensive and hard to produce. Industry is great at streamlining existing tech. But this is a rabbit hunt for a tech that may not actually exist. Many of these car companies may actually go under trying to solve the solid state Battery chemical flaw. There is a chance that EV just isn't viable for mass adoption.
Have a source for your claims of battery companies claiming their tech sucks? Batteries are evolving quickly and most everyone in the industry knows this is the eventual future for most developed markets.
@MattMaranMotoring when was it said that battery companies claim their tech sucks? It's simply the very public reality of solid state batteries. They're currently not feasible for rechargeable batteries since their chemical composition promotes crystalline formations causing circuit shorts after a relatively small number of recharge cycles. Also I'm not sure where you're getting this "everyone in the industry knows this is the future" idea from. Several auto CEOs have come out and publicly said that mass adoption isn't likely anytime soon and that the future may not be electric. Even Elon Musk who believes electric is the future says we're very far from mass adoption.
You’re grouping the current hurdles of solid state with all battery tech in general, to justify your opinion that all batteries “aren’t ready”. They already are working just fine for millions of car buyers. Solid state holds promise but so does all these new chemistries, sodium batteries in particular, along with mixed chemistries (like the 600+ mile Our Next Energy batteries) and others. Toyota is planning 600 mile EVs by 2026 too, well before they plan to debut solid state. Please show me these quotes from car company CEOs doubting mass adoption. Nobody is expecting that this decade, but it is coming. Myself and most other people don’t believe anything Elon says anymore so that holds zero weight with me. If you think he’s credible then I guess this conversation won’t go anywhere good.
I support letting it be known how much we will reject driver behavior modification systems while they’re in the conceptual and developmental stages. It’ll be too late if we listen to Matt and wait until they’re just over the horizon.
Watching your brain melt while trying to interpret Farley's comments was well worth it. I think he was definitely a little tipsy when he gave that interview. Not to mention saying there will never be an electric mustang is an extremely short-sighted view after seeing other electric sports cars. I would not think that mustang buyers are quite as regressive as some of the Dodge crowd, but you never know.
That really sucks. Save the manuals! I just got a 2014 Honda SI a couple weeks ago and it is magnificent. Thank you for reviewing that 10 years ago by the way :-)
@@MattMaranMotoring ended up buying it, 2014 with 12k miles. Asking price was $42k. Traded in my 2011 WRX with 125k miles and ended up out the door at $31k.
America is so painfully behind in rolling out charging in local areas where people live, work, and run errands. We're a decade away from any meaningful ramp up of EVs.
Matt I would say it also looks like Toyotas plug in hybrids won’t ramp up production largely until roughly 2026, it’s almost impossible to even get a Prius prime, and it’d always been challenging to get a RAV4 prime, yes at least they’re available but tough to get
Yeah it’s disappointing they haven’t ramped up production more, but there’s lots of other companies already offering them too that’ll capitalize on GM’s leisurely roll out.
@@MattMaranMotoring what’s wrong with buying it second hand? Idk what’s the benefit of buying a new car over like a 2-3year old used car… they are the same thing duh 🙄
I’m confused how jeep compares the wagoneer S, to model Y performance, wouldn’t comparing it to the model X have been more appropriate suggesting pricing? We’ll see I guess
How are you holding up brother? If I may, you are starting to look like I did when I had to sell my '68 Restomod Mustang. The public (especially the non-car people) forget what it is like to go through a breakup late in life. Many of us tend to anthropomorphize our cars. There is a sense of love that develops as we slowly grow attached to our cars like you would any other family member or pet. FWIW, it took me roughly _two years_ to get over the departure of my pride and joy. So just be prepared for the long haul. As someone who has felt your _exact_ pain; I just wanted to reach out and make sure you are doing okay. Nobody thought to checkup on me and it would have been greatly appreciated. Therefore, I am more than happy to commiserate with you. As the old saying goes: _Misery loves company._ By the way, we _always_ love the tangents like the one during the Ford segment. Your personal perspective is truly a delight and often leaves us [the viewers] shaking our heads right along with you. Nevertheless, this was another great Weekly Update, Matt. My Saturday mornings always start off with my version of "Cars & Coffee". That is to say, Lavazza and the Weekly Update. I truly hope all is well with you and the family. Just remember this quote, which I have posted numerous times. _"I've always been asked, 'What is my favorite car?' and I've always said 'The next one.'"_ *~Carroll Shelby* Stay classy my friend.
No mustang owner is going to complain about losing to an ev all they need to do is add boost with supporting mods and its not going to matter anymore. This is not a modded car vs stock scenario this is a real car that can be modified extensively vs a battery with wheels so obviously the owner knows it cannot be truly modified so not the same.
Manuals are pretty much going extinct for sure now. First the Corolla dropped manuals and now the Civic. These base models with manuals disappearing means a huge amount of drivers will never drive a manual at all in the future which will kill them off in sports cars too eventually. It's a shame. Manuals can be very rewarding but I do understand why they are not going to survive. The learning curve is quite steep to drive them really well. You really have to dedicate yourself to learning a dying art and most people just don't care.
Matt?? Have you been drinking? Mach E is not a mustang. They slapped a logo and increased sales. You could call it a Fusion E and it's the same car. Farley makes total sense... Mach E isn't a mustang
The trims are different in Canada, I wonder what will happen here. Currently we have the lx, ex and sport with the 2l and the touring with the 1.5. The hatch has the base or cvt with the manual and the 2l, the sport and sport touring with the 1.5.
So the 1.5T being dropped. That was the Si's power plant. Do you think this will be the end of the Si in the line up? The hybrid bests it in power figures and kind of makes it irrelevant.. do you have any thoughts on this?
The 1.5T is still being made for other Hondas so I don’t think it’s hard to keep it around. I think that hopefully it’ll just mean that the Si finally get a healthy power bump. Other options are the slightly punchier hybrid tune from the Accord will be offered as a new Si. But I doubt people would be happy with an auto Si, so unless they pull a CR-Z and offer it with a manual, I don’t think they’ll go that route. Si is popular enough that I don’t think they’d get rid of the name.
years ago when bronco, f150 lightning and their EV focus was on the horizon....I was all in on Ford. Fast forward to today and i dont think I will ever buy a ford again. Too expensive, behind the times and a terrible dealer network and reliability.
Eight years ago GM had the best PHEV on the market, and the Gen 2 is arguably still one of the best despite its age. They just need to hook up a Voltec architecture to an Ultium battery and put it in a CUV to take advantage of the rarity of RAV4 Primes.
Great weekly update Matt! I’m not sure what’s up with Farley in that interview but Ford’s board of directors should have a talk with him soon. On another topic I recently purchased a Honda Civic Sport Touring model and wow what a car for the money. I’m pleasantly surprised!
So, reading between the lines, is Ford nixing the non-selling MachE? They should be building hybrids while making infrastructure. A solid EV and / or hydrogen infrastructure would allow ICE motors to continue with alternative fuels.
Dodge will sell some new challengers but overall that customer base is buying it for the ICE. I think dodge flops within a few years if they don’t sell v8s
I don't see why you can't seem to distinguish between say a 2 door sports car Mustang EV (which maybe Farely is saying won't ever happen - though it probably will one day) vs the existing 4 door "SUV" mustang MachE.
I know a few folks who are just waiting for NACS to be stock. For some reason they don't want to use an adapter every time when they could just wait a year or so. Even though they would still have to use an adapter when they go to a non Tesla station until (if?) those get swapped!
Every other car manufacturer down sizing from using a v8 to a v6 turbo hybrid or v6 to a I4 turbo hybrid motor… Lambo “we need to follow the trend” goes from v12 to a v8 turbo hybrid motor 😂😂😂 that’s still a big motor and still bad ass if you ask me 😅
Here’s the thing with the Civic losing the manual: Yes the take rate is very low, but when I got my 6 speed sport, they were in high demand, but hard to find. The dealers said that the 6 speed wasn’t a priority for Honda, so they made it in extremely limited numbers. If the take rate is so low that nobody wanted the manual, why do dealers charge so much markup? Because the cars are in demand
Demand intensifies when production is limited right? Hold production levels low then you automatically create a limited supply and those that want one is going to bid up the price. That’s what the dealers are enjoying and taking advantage of. I am old enough to remember when manuals were less expensive because they were less expensive to manufacture and supply was not being intentionally limited by the manufacturers.
Yeah, changing the name of the Mach-E to Thunderbird with a styling tweak and giving it a bit more rear trunk (hatch?) space would be the best move. I think he's actually talking about the two door Mustangs, not the Mach-E, and an AWD performance hybrid Mustang with a Coyote motor, rear transaxle and front hub motors (best for regen) would be awesome. Mach-E (Thunderbird) sales numbers should pick up once they swap to NACS and car loan interest rates come back down to Earth.
Lowest trim of the Civic Hybrid is more expensive than the highest trim for Corolla Hybrid or Elantra Hybrid. I am waiting on a Mazda 3 Hybrid and waiting on the CX-5 Hybrid. Come on Mazda get on board with Hybrids.
But Matt, he personally may not see the Mustang Mach-E as a true Mustang. Deep in his crawl, he very much so sees a true Mustang with an internal combustion engine.
I’m convinced he made that announcement in response to GMs President Mark Reuss talking about making Camaro an EV mom sedan. Jim is trying (and going to) win over the old and young people that want a traditional American sports car. Thats affordable. Since every other brand left.
I see all these updates about autonomy. I disable all those assist features the instant i buy a car. If they cant be disabled i dont buy the car. I see them as future bills that will be overpriced to fix
Why VW isn't using the Lamborghini name plate for their F1 effort is beyond me, Stampeding Bull Vs. Prancing Horse would just be awesome. I guess Audi needs the most advertising exposure to compete with Mercedes and BMW? In any case I wish them luck in bringing all their brands' engineers together for their best effort to compete at the pointy end!
So close with that GM autonomous feature. I've theorized with some friends and family that you could have an autonomous feature that takes over if you're driving poorly. But my idea was using that feature to prevent things like drinking and driving, or to help people if they were having a health issue and needed to get to the hospital. Having the car programed where if you're consistently driving in an unsafe manner, you can select a few destinations, home or hospital in this case depending on what's happening, and the car takes it from there. Mental health is important, but this is too far.
For the comments on the Mustang, maybe he was referring to an electric drivetrain with a gas motor to power the vehicle. I would buy a gas/electric Mustang which should certainly perform well. I’d support a rebrand of the Mach-e (or model cancellation) which should have never been called a Mustang.
have a great weekend Matt btw are you going to watch the INDY 500 and Coca-Cola 600 this weekend? also btw having anything fun planned for this weekend and i finally had a much need haircut taken care of i think a Civic SI hatchback makes a lot of sense if Honda does it at some point in the not to distant future so that way people could go to Honda dealerships a buy a more affordable alternative to the Civic Type R Lamborghini Temerario how i know is Lamborghini filed a trademark for it with the European intellectual property office and it will have 789 horsepower and 538 pound feet of torque V8 a 8 speed dual clutch transmission a redline of a mind blowing 10,000 RPM's 🤯🤯 a bespoke Lamborghini platform and it might be revealed some time in August and it will be Lamborghini's first V8 mid engined car since the Jalpa and a electric motor with 148 HP and 221 pound feet of torque so that could mean it will have a grand total of 937 Horsepower and 759 pound feet of torque which is 🤯🤯 to think about
"We no longer have a manual in the Civic anymore, aside from SI..." - isn't SI the enthusiast Civic anyway? If the lack of the hatch-style trunk opening on the manual SI is a total deal-breaker for an "enthusiast" - I consider such enthusiast a faux-enthusiast; this is truly a first world problem, it's the same kind of mentality that buys a big SUV because they may need to do [whatever] once a year. Is it nice to have an option that ticks all boxes? Sure. But if one box can no longer be ticked due to the state of the market, then one has to decide whether they're an enthusiast and get the version that was made for enthusiasts in the first place, or admit they have more in common with soccer moms who NEED an full-size SUV to take their two children to a soccer practice.
Don't get me wrong: losing the manuel in the base Civic is sad news because that just brings the death of the manuel closer. But SI still has the manual, so as far as real enthusiasts are concerned, it's not the end.
Jim Farley is trolling. He said it twice so you didnt miss it. They have a new electric platform on the horizon that is going to be used for a lot of applications.
As far as Jim Farley is concerned, HOPEFULLY the Mach-e (if it survives) will LOOSE the pony on the nose. This smacks of the whole Ford Five-Hundred nameplate to replace the Taurus debacle, then finding that didn't fly, going back to Taurus. I've said it since the Mach-E was introduced - just keep calling it just a Mach-E (keep up the good work, Matt) and maybe they'll realize they screwed the pony. Perhaps they have... I have far less against a dedicated EV S66o than calling the Mach-E a...gulp...Mustang.
GM sells driver data to insurance companies. I can only imagine what they'd do with personal mental health information. Defy tyrants -- don't be a bootlicker.
Wunderbar! Another Episode of the Matt Maran Friday Night Car News Show - with a lot of the latest topics again. Wishing everybody here a great day and a superb weekend ahead. Enjoy the News!
