I just got the bike and in my opinion, it's more advanced than a beginner bike. it's fast, but not scary/crazy fast to the point the front lifts. the bike pulls to the point where you should lean or you'll feel pulled back. overall, I love my new machine
Cager, I like that even when a company loans you a bike to ride for a few days, you are still very honest in your review about it. Keep doing what you're doing!
Just a heads up for anyone who's still unaware... Honda's have been manufactured in Thailand since 2012. Japanese design is still used but it's cheaper to produce in Thailand. These are still beautiful bikes and would recommend for everyone thinking of their first 600+
The most fun and entertaining motorcycle review I've ever seen, and very informative! Please keep up the wonderful work; your review was very helpful in choosing my last bike. Cheers!
Nice and interesting test ride as usual CagerOnTwoWheels! Looking forward the part 2. Btw, I read in a magazine that the CB(R) 500 & 650 are all built in Thailand.
i was thinking of getting one of these but with everyone complaining about the terrible vibrations in the bike and the low quality of the bike i think ill either go for a xj6 yamaha or a ninja650 .the honda is made in thailand so that explains the low build quality .
Did you find there was a big clunk when changing gears, also when the bike had just started did you notice a grinding sensation as you put it into first? I know it was a while back but can you remember?
Good to see you're back. Oh, so you have to get a CBR650 or better to get good stock tires. I finally replaced my NC700X's stock tires with all season Michelins and it feels good.
its built in Thailand and I'm not sure which one you got the the dealer near my house it looks like it was double checked nothing is lose even the little bolt where the clutch lever is Honda so the built quality depends on what dealership you got it from.
I had a 14 cbr 650 f that I put 10k on commuting with some canyons. It was a very fun and comfortable bike, especialy for the price. It is defintly at the sportier version of its 650 brethren (ninjas and XJ's). And the brakes are the reason I took it to work on the 405 everyday: those things kept me alive. But I do find myself wanting a more refigned machine for daily riding as I continue to advance as a rider. BUT THAT IS THE CONUNDRUM. Even though it might seem high for its price point, this bike is very rewarding for a returning intermediate, daily commuter, or advancing beginner.. BTW made in Tailand Edit: ok the 18 list prices are rediculous. (Plus I got mine w/o abs: anologs an backins 4 liv:)g!)
Thanks for your review! I have a few (maybe silly) questions: 1.) In which gear do you drive around the city at 50 km/h? 2.) I read in a magazine that the idle of the motor automatically increases, when you let go of the clutch. So theoretically one could switch to 6th gear while standing still, let go of the clutch and it would not stall the engine. Ist that true? It is kinda hard to believe that. 3.) I guess for the speed test from 0-100 km/h you don't need to switch to second gear?
Cager, if you had to choose between the Yamaha XJ6 fully faired and this CBR650f which would you choose? And would you consider the MT07 with a windscreen knowing it has waaay more torque?
Hello there, When you where cruising in the highway, can you tell about how many Km'h did you have around 5 to 6 000 rpm's with 6th gear? And how much fuel consumption you had ?
Hey CagerOnTwoWheels. I'm currently considering getting myself a first proper big bike and I'm going back and forth between this CBR650F and its naked sibling CB650F. Will be using it for daily rides to and from the office and the occasional excursion when the weather's up. Anything that sets the two apart other than the fairing and seating position that you can tell me about to make my decision easier?
Hey Cager, nice review! Do you think, that you can have the chance to review the Yamaha YZF R3? I'm undecided between this bike and the MT-07 you already drove. Thanks :)
Take note Cager, CB500F CB500R CB500X CB650F CB650R CRF250L and possibly many other honda's are built in Thailand. I think only the high end honda's are built in Japan like the VFR,CB600RR and other's
+ripmax333 That is correct. 250's, 300's, 500's, and 650's all made in Thailand now at a factory on Ranong outside Bangkok. I've been to the factory. My house mate looked at me like I was crazy when I told him his CBR250 was made in Thailand. "No way man! It's Japanese!" He was crestfallen when I showed him the "Made in Thialand" sticker on his bike. I think he wanted to sell it after that. lol
Joe Diver tell your friend that it's not such a bad thing, after all it's still under honda management and it's still a honda. parts can get cheaper to get as-well, plus they are still reliable. made in thailand is a way to get them cheap from dealerships.
Hey cager!! Love your videos and your helmet and your laugh when accelerating!!! Keep up the great work!!!!! entertaining and informative. Here are a couple of suggestions could you somehow test ride the Benelli 600 and 300 also the Cfmoto 650 NK and TR versions
i believe it is built in japan and you can find it out by looking at the series numbe(whatever you call it)r, my nc750 is made in japan and has the same issue on the tail as well.
Great review as always. The bike is made at Kumamoto, Japan, as far as I am aware. So those plastic bits that appeared loose, oh dear, maybe it was a Friday bike...........?
The way I see it 86Horsepower and a top speed of 140 to 150 is more than enogh for what I want. Here in the US the motorcycle don't have any engine restriction :)
Hi, i would like to ask you something when taking corners i cant decide to Steering or Countersteering; and after 2 years i just use my body to turn because im afraid of falling the opposide way. that just drags my corner speed away. the curve is between Steering and Countersteering how can i be sure ? its 1 way go and 1 way come and no overtaking lane. (drivers are overtaking all the fucking time.) I have got shitty tires for 2 years if i lean more than 15-20 degrees,i'll definitely kiss asphalt.
Also, try to attend a beginner track day. It'll teach you lots about how much your bike and tires can actually handle. Believe me, it's a lot more than the rider can. I did one last week and it was so worth it.
CagerOnTwoWheels well you are still just as loud as ever its just I couldn't hear the bike. Thank you though, I thought my ears were just being stupid again.
I just love your reviews, keep then going :) No, it is not manufactured in Japan but in INDIA!!! This is the reason and truly hope they'll do something about this. Really, I would put my hard earned money on a used, better bike before I'll do this one.
My next bike will have a dual filament headlight bulb. U.S. laws are strict. You must have a working headlight at all times. At least you could get to a place to get a new bulb, without getting pulled over by the police. if you have one filament working.
+Juan Carlos Perezchaho I bought the bike 4 weeks ago. The sittig position is exactly what i believe you would want. It is not as agressive as on the super sport bikes, it is rather far more relaxed and upright, it puts almost no pressure on your back. I am also a fairly new rider, and i feel that i have made a great choice with the bike. Also all the things he showed as "bad built quality" are not present on my bike, it might be because he is riding a demonstrator (bike particularly for test rides) and had been "worned out" a little by other test riders.
+Alex K Hi, I just read that you are a beginner and bought the 650f. Im a beginner too and was initially looking for a cbr 500r. after sitting on a 650f though (just sitting, not driving) I felt immediately more comfortable cause Im over 6 foot tall. the only thing I worry is the power of the 650f since most rider advise to start on a "smaller" in terms of power. what are your thoughts so far on the 650f and would you recommend it for a total beginner? thx in advance and safe trip!
subscribed :) love this bike and really want one, at the moment im on a honda cb500f, i love it and it has the ability to keep up with everyone, but i just love the fared bikes :P
It is a way for bike makers to cut costs. I didn't discover that I didn't have high and low beam until after I purchased the bike. Never heard of such thing. Manufacturers being cheap!
+CagerOnTwoWheels so did they create the CBR 650 F with the full intention of making it a powerful bike for new riders to restrict and then once they pass their test; de-restrict? I've just passed my bike test and was thinking of getting a cbr 650 F to have a bit of practice before getting my dream bike. 👍
+WolfPackHD at age 20 only 48hp, if rider had the A2 license for atleast 2 years (age 22) they can earliest get the full bike license (A). meaning for 2 years they get used to be bike and power and what not, when they get the full license they drive to honda dealership/mechanics flash the ecu and tadaaaa ~90hp :) this bike can sell to three different riders 1: those that took A2 license and will never get A license 2: those who really want this bike (on A2)and then flash the ecu when they get A license 3: those already with A license who wants a nice sport tourer with "enough" power i just cant stand the split gauges and single headlamp on this model :p
The honda is smother at high revs (because its an inline 4 instead of a twin) and slightly higher top speed. Less torque at low speed in comparison. Acceleration is about the same. The Honda weighs more and costs more. Full fairing with windshield means less buffeting on highway. I like both but I bought the FZ07 because of intangible emotional reasons. Your mileage may vary.
+Jasmin Chauhan 650F is more of a long ride, twisty, fun bike and the 600RR is a track ready weapon. The more R's, the sportier and the more aggressive you're posture and the more aggressive the torque curve is. Fs for Honda is kind of their label for sport, not to be confused with super sport. Xs are adventure bikes. Basically, the closer to RR, the racier, further away, the less sporty. Xs are a league on their own unless it's Yamaha, then it could be a cruiser or a neo-retro sport. Get it? Got it? Good.
Am I the only one who likes that tail fender? It is both practical AND pretty. Any bike that doesn't have it looks ugly to me. Seriously, if a bike doesn't have that big and long tail fender and mirrors, I don't even wanna ride it.
Cager um dia gostaria de ver um review de uma Supermoto e de uma Sportbike acho que seria porreiro, especialmente a supermoto porque geralemente dizem que é "outro mundo" das duas rodas ahah Abraço
Yup! Ugly fender it is... i agree...big bulky ruining the sleek design of that cbr650f... There are fender eliminator kits out there... but i think its not approved..
Rodrigo Ferreira não percebi. Consome muito, é isso? Quanto a "empurrar" para as altas cilindradas, da parte da Honda, concordo, de resto a concorrência até tem propostas muito aceitáveis. Mas isto também tem a haver com a legislação do EURO5, de diminuir emissões. As marcas não têm muita escolha...dai os turbos começarem a dar que falar.
Viva Lusitano429 , os consumos são bons, o problema é que deixou órfão os clientes das hornets que queriam motas vitaminadas mas com o conforto muito superior a uma RR, então a cbr600f era uma excelente proposta. 87cv a meu ver é pouco e apesar de ser uma mota divertida de andar, mesmo com algumas alterações acaba por ser uma bebé . Esta mota a meu ver devia de ter no mínimo 105cv
CagerOnTwoWheels paga e paga bem, já para não falar que a vfr pode ser muito bonita mas não tem um design tão jovial quanto está menina... enfim, é o mundo que temos 😂
