Honda Civic Type R Driving Modes. What's the Acceleration Difference?

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Honda Civic Type R Driving Modes. What's the Acceleration Difference?
The Honda Civic Type R (FK8) has three drving modes. Comfort, Sport and +R. Each adjusts the suspension and steering, making everything firmer, sharper and more focused. Comfort, is the perfect choice for long cruises. Sport is the default mode and generally where I spend most of my time and +R suited to the track. On top that, the performance is also altered, from a little lacking in Comfort mode to slightly frantic in +R mode.
A little annoyingly, Honda doesn't give you any personalisation within these driving modes, it's these three choices and that's it. Personally, I would like the to have the choice as there are definitely circumstances where the +R throttle response coupled with the Sport steering and suspension setting would be ideal, particularly on British B-roads.
It got me thinking. Just how much of a speed gain is there between the three modes. On some cars I've found the 'Sport' button can be a little bit of a gimmick and it doesn't really do much accept make it feel a bit more alert. So, we know the Civic Type R definitely feels more alert with each setting but how significant is that mode when it comes to in great acceleration.
I thought I'd put it to the test. Now, this isn't the most scientific test, there are no gadgets monitoring all this, just me and timer when editing so it probably won't be 100% accurate to the 100th of a second but it will give you a pretty decent idea of the differences.
I also didn't bother with 0-60 timing. Simply because I couldn't find a safe place to do it and it can be influenced by my own ability rather than that of the Civic itself.
I decided to try the Hondas three driving modes when in motion. The first test is 30-40mph in 3rd gear and the second is 40-70mph in 4th gear.
So, here it is, the Honda Civic Type R FK8 Driving mode acceleration differences.
Let me know what you think.
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@TheFK8Life Год назад

There isn't lag - it's programmed boost threshold - the ECU keeps the torque request down below 3k as the tiny turbo can make enough torque to snap the rods. Start the runs at 4k and the "lag" you are talking about won't be there especially in 3rd+ as Honda limits power in 1st and 2nd Lol As far as the stock engine being too much - my R makes 640bhp - starts in +R and I have it set to about 420bph in 1st, 500bhp in 2nd and 640bhp in 3rd+ .....will easily do 296kmh which is the gearing limit currently on the stock 4.1 final drive - the new Type R uses a 3.8 final drive which would open the car up to well over 320kmh but I prefer the stronger acceleration from the 4.1 for now. Cheers from the United States 🇺🇸

@RemoveBeforeLaunch Год назад

Thanks for the feedback and info. I wondered if something like that was going on with the boost. I’m all about the power, however the speed this car can build in standard form does mean you’re hitting speed limits on any mildly spirited drive. How do you still have a license with 640bhp! 😂 You’re car sounds awesome!!!

@malcolmar 3 года назад

Well done. This car is already a legend and a future classic for sure. I am blessed to be able to own one. I am NEVER selling this car. Merging onto the highway is no problem in this car. This car pulls and pulls.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Thanks 👍 Agreed, I think a lot of people have discounted it because of its looks, which is a mistake. With the way things are going they won’t be able to make cars like this for much longer! It’s a very strong engine!

@christopherthompson7443 3 года назад

I use R mode quite regularly if I’m doing spirited driving, overtake etc. Brilliant!

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Good to hear, locally to me there doesn’t really seem enough opportunity for R mode. Although on the right road at the right time it is awesome!

@christopherthompson7443 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch it’s always great for overtaking.

@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 3 года назад

I just became the proud owner of a 2021 Type R ! Coming from a very fast mustang gt 10R80 auto (didn't own it long as i found myself very bored driving auto) but before that i owned a highly modified Veloster N which was fully customizable! I certainly feel you're frustration on not being able to have any customizable options. That being said though as great a car the N was/is the Type R is in a different universe when talking about build quality, interior, and top end performance! My N was proper fast but would always fall flat on its face up top. The R just keeps pulling and pulling hard to redline and its just glorious.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Welcome to the club 👍 Thanks for the insight into your other cars in comparison. Very interesting to hear your thoughts on the N. I’m surprised Honda didn’t give more customisation but it makes up for it in every other area! Hope you have plenty of awesome miles in it!

@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch Thank you. I just hit about 550 miles today and really can't wait to really push her! Definitely planning out the track days.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471Nice. Not even run in yet. Wait until she really loosens up! Track will be awesome. I hit the track of few weeks ago and it’s an impressive car out of the box. You’ll love it!

@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch I'm going on the 28th first track day for the TYPE R! Can't wait.

@w.arnold8806 3 года назад

I'm driving most of the time in comfort mode, switching temporarily to sport or +r mode for fun sections of the roads. Most b roads are too bad for the harder damper settings, so it gets annoying for me after a while if in sport mode. I really like the difference between comfort and sport (+r is not so different from sport). It's like driving a different car if you switch to one mode after driving for a long time in the other mode. Comfort softens the whole driving feeling, it feels like falling into a relaxing chair. While switching to sport mode makes it feels so engaging like a race car. I think that's one of the reasons the car never gets boring, and it's been 3 years since buying it. Another nice thing is the quicker Rev matching response in +r mode. It really rewards (and challenges) you for quick shifting. Individual settings would be nice of course (anybody else who likes the display in +r mode the most?). The factory settings are rather well balanced though. Sharp throttle response in combination with softer dampers was my main wish but if I think twice today I would say that the damper setting of comfort mode feels so soft and lazy it wouldn't really suit to a sportier driving experience.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Interesting to hear your thoughts and I agree on all of them. I generally find myself switching between Comfort and Sport but rarely get into +R. The car does seem lethargic in Comfort but it is perfect for just cruising around when you're not in a rush or pushing on. Honda have judged the 3 setups nicely but I would love the option to use +R on the throttle and Sport for the suspension. I think the would be the perfect combination for a British B-road thrash. And, of course, the display would look better;-)

@SPARTANDRIVES 3 года назад

I use also +R mode I love this mode.. Especially down shift 😎

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

I love the down shift in R mode, it is spot on!

@Bigbacon 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch what the difference in downshift between modes?

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@Bigbacon In the same way the throttle becomes more responsive, the rev matching becomes more aggressive to suit the faster driving style. On track, in +R, the rev matchings sharper response does gel together really well. It definitely helps you attack corners more effectively

@nolanbryan9195 Год назад

Nice experiment. I’ve often wondered what the differences are, speed wise 👍🏻

@RemoveBeforeLaunch Год назад

Thanks👍 Me too.

@tristangeorge8875 3 года назад

So I tried the car on track recently (Castle Combe) and it was brilliant... way faster than me... I'm not brave enough. I used R mode. The rev matching is brilliant, way better than I could do. But even me not getting it right out of the last corner it was still up over 130 into Avon Rise... which felt enough!!! Watch Fifth Gear video to see how it should be done with Jason Plato driving. Interestingly he comments that he finds it too stiff in R mode, stiffer than a a touring car (and he should know). Put it this way, I never feel tempted to use R mode on the road...

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Awesome! Good man for getting on track. It's a great road car but it defintely feels like it wants to be on track but you need to be a brave man to get it to the limit, as you say. I watched Plato, was interesting to hear his thoughts on the setup. I've tried R mode on a local, new bit of tarmac, and it is pretty stiff and generally not really suited for our great British potholed roads.

@vasekvi 2 года назад

I drive in +R all the time unless the road is a bit rough. When the road is very rough I drive in comfort mode. If I could pick and choose elements from each mode, it would be the responsiveness of the throttle and rev matching from +R mode with the damping and steering of Sport mode. The rev matching is the main reason I use +R most of the time. When I switch to my Sport Cup2 tires, the steering effort for sport mode already feels like +R mode.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 2 года назад

Thanks for the feedback. Interesting to hear as that’s the same configuration I would go for. Such a shame Honda didn’t give us the choice. Also interesting to hear about your choice of tyres as well. Definitely something I want to look into.

@vasekvi 2 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch I have two sets of wheels. For regular driving I run General GMax AS 05 all seasons in 245/35-20 for a little more sidewall cushion (plus they are not available in 30 series). For mountain runs and track I have the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 in OEM size. It would seem that with the new Type R coming out this year, we would probably get to mix and match these settings, because the 11th gen Civic Si does now allow you to fine tune individual settings.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 2 года назад

@@vasekvi thanks for the tyre info. Yeah, it seems Honda have listened to the owners 👍

@oldkid8811 3 года назад

Love it. High end detector is a must

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Yep. That or a race track, or both🤔

@oldkid8811 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch BOTH man! This car so BA ive had it for a week and it keeps making want more! lol

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@oldkid8811 it’s pretty addictive isn’t it 😉

@samanson2001 2 года назад

High end detector?

@user-fb9zp9eb9g Год назад

R mode always on, Rev match and stability off

@RemoveBeforeLaunch Год назад

Pretty hardcore! I assume you've got some decent roads where you are. R mode permanently on in the UK would probably result in no wheels being left on the car. Although on the right roads, R mode is awesome!

@bigboost2641 3 года назад

Generally sport mode for me but do use +R a fair bit.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Starting to think I need to be using R mode more often🤔

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

It was a bit of an eye opener seeing the final acceleration timings when we edited this. It's not the most scientific test ever run as I wasn't using any timing gear. However, when editing the shots I could get a pretty accurate time. What was revealed does corollate pretty well with how it feels. With Comfort mode feeling pretty sluggish and Sport and +R definitely feeling more alert although I wasn't expecting quite such a difference between the three. Let me know your thoughts and what mode you tend to drive in, in the comments below.

@Monkiimagic 3 года назад

I've hear rumours that the new CTR is going to have customisable modes like the Audi's VW's etc... It's only a rumour atm but it looks like Honda have finally realised its a feature that people want.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@Monkiimagic interesting. It would be a good move. Even though the current settings are good, there’s definitely times when a mixture of the modes would be better suited.

@Monkiimagic 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch I'm looking to get another CTR and that modes thing is a bit annoying but not something that would stop me getting one. I've currently got something sensible and it's a nice car, just a bit boring.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@Monkiimagic yeah, I tried the sensible car thing, it was necessary at the time but didn’t last long!

@Monkiimagic 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch Likewise, the job required it but it just saps any fun out of driving, well it does for me.

@Carbon_craze 3 года назад

Mainly Comfort mode for most part of the driving. Sport mode used for overtaking and few moments if needed especially cornering. Plus R mode is a moment of madness. Wouldn't recommend it in busy areas but brilliant on country roads for fun.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Making full use of the modes. Great thing with that is it feels like a different car in each mode. 3 cars in 1 = great value for money 😉

@richroadin 3 года назад

Good figures content 😊

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Thanks 🙏

@freecali6506 3 года назад

Still would take the SI any day over the type-r. 50k price tag is absurd for a Honda.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

To be honest, most new cars are over priced. As consumers are being pushed towards financing cars rather than buying cars, price tags are 🚀 Which is why I rarely buy a new car. A good, low mileage used car that’s lost a chunk of its initial value makes more financial sense.

@alexvillalobos7137 2 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch I got mine from an auction. Around 20K after repairs

@vasekvi 2 года назад

"for a Honda" is ignorant

@Stormtrooper-oc4vn 2 года назад

Yeah I got my si for MSRP they wanted wayyyyyy too much for a type R. I'm not stupid to fall for it. I won't track it anyways so I'd stick with something else

@leeengland1748 3 года назад

As far as i am aware the modes do not change the engine as he states they just change the throttle response

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Yep, you’re right, my bad. I really should script these things rather than just ‘chat.’ Pretty sure it’s just the throttle, no engine power changes. Have seen some people suggest there may be some other adjustments to the engine setup, turbo, waste gate etc. But nobody has a conclusive answer on that and Honda seem to suggest it’s just the throttle’s responsiveness.

@bossadave 3 года назад

In comfort mode on the motorway normal driving I get 42 mpg, mental.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

In that case I need to ease off on my right foot!😉

@alexvillalobos7137 2 года назад

Do you have lighter wheels or something…. I might manage 32 if I baby it and I have gotten 34. On e25 max I’ve gotten is 30

@bossadave 2 года назад

@@alexvillalobos7137 Not sure really I just keep up with the flow of traffic and give it a burst now and again. I use 99 octane fuel from Tesco and front tyres are at the higher 42 psi rating. Running OEM Continental tyres. The car usually does that with 2 adults and 2 kids on board too. It does have 10,000 miles covered so engine might be fully bedded in now.

@alexvillalobos7137 2 года назад

@@bossadave I’m gonna go my tire pressure a bit see what happens. And are you not from the US ? 91 octane is our highest and 99 is like race gas definitely over $10 a gallon

@bossadave 2 года назад

@@alexvillalobos7137 try it my front tyres are on 42 psi following the manual. I am in the UK so easy to get 99 Octane and the car prefers 98 as it can release a little more power but also reduce engine knock because of the higher compression ratio and turbo charging. But yes £1.50 a litre so not far of $10 a gallon. Still small price to pay for such a wonderful machine.

@jonathan___4684 2 года назад

Im a bit ashamed to admit that 90% of the time from when I've just started mine and until it's turned off...it's in comfort mode. I live out in the sticks and the roads are appalling here, comfort mode makes things much more livable. However! On the weekends and anytime im somewhere with good fun roads with little traffic, the car always in +R mode. What a breast of a car!

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 2 года назад

I don’t think you’re alone in this. Seems to be a reoccurring theme, mainly due to the state of the roads. Does make it more fun when you can unleash it though😀

@jonathan___4684 2 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch glad I'm not alone then :D hahaha. I watch fk8 videos on RU-vid from people in other parts of the world with incredible roads and I'm always jealous! Have you noticed by the way that fk8 prices have really skyrocketed? I bought mine just last April, a 67 plate with just under 20k miles for £25k and now I'm seeing 17 plate fk8's with 30k miles for as much as £31k! There's an 19 plate fk8 with 10k miles on piston heads that was just sold for £34k! I'm speechless (and very glad I got mine when I did) haha

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 2 года назад

@@jonathan___4684 head over to parts Wales, up to the Highlands etc. Some awesome roads! Yep, prices have shot up. Two main reasons, production for the Type R has stopped and there still a demand for them. People don’t necessarily want to wait for the new one. And, due to a lack of new cars and long delays in getting cars off the production line, there’s a serious supply and demand problem. Most cars have seen a price increase. So, once the supply chain issues have been resolved, will the prices drop to the same levels we paid or will the new level still be higher than what we paid. So, do you enjoy the car or do you cash in and walk out with a good few thousand in your back pocket🤔

@jonathan___4684 2 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch oh I'm definitely keeping the car! 😆 Even if I cashed out now I'd be stuck waiting for the new Type R and I'm not sure I like the direction they've gone with! Besides my FK8 puts the biggest smile on my face and I wouldn't trade that :D I'll definitely need to go enjoy the roads up in Wales! Cheers bud!

@highlander834 3 года назад

Mainly sport mode for me.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

That’s where I’m spending most of my time at the moment with frequent switching to Comfort as the roads fall apart!

@highlander834 3 года назад

It's good fun whatever mode really! Was wondering how the paint work is on your car - do you have any stone chips? as I've been told the soft Honda paint is its Achilles heel. I have the 2021 model so everything is still fairly new to me. Thanks

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@highlander834 yeah, it’s good car all round. So, even though mine isn’t new it’s still done under 10,000 miles and previous owner seems to have really looked after it. So, the paints not bad at all. However, it is annoyingly thin and I’ve picked up a couple of minor chips even though I’m trying to be careful. I wouldn’t like to see the front of it after a few track days! Not sure why Honda scrimped on the paint. Don’t know if they’ve addressed it on the 21 model 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Monkiimagic 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch I think the paint issue is across the board, it's not just a Honda thing. In general paint thickness has reduced on cars over the last 15 years or so... it could be for environmental reasons... or it could just be manufacturers being cheap and trying to reduce costs.

@highlander834 3 года назад

Yeah the new model still has thin paint, like you I'll just have to be careful I guess. Cheers.

@punsaravidushan2807 3 года назад

Is there noise while going in comfort mode?

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

Unlike some cars, the exhaust note doesn’t change from one driving mode to the other. Unfortunately it doesn’t really have the best exhaust noise.

@jonasdecroix8208 3 года назад

It’s louder in R mode

@bigboost2641 3 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch the facelift has piped cabin noise that most don’t like.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@jonasdecroix8208 is that the facelift model you are referring to? I can’t notice any difference in mine between the modes. Mine’s a 2017 model

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 3 года назад

@@bigboost2641 I’ve heard a few people criticise the piped noise. Would have been better to improve the exhaust IMO

@cooleye8887 2 года назад

You're doing it wrong brother, you're starting under between 2,500 and 3,000 rpm and thats why youre getting the lag lol. Next time start around over 3,000 rpm, or at least 3,500, anywhere between 3,000 to 3,500 should get you a better response.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 2 года назад

You're right. I would definitely be in its sweet spot at that point. I was trying to give a bit more a real world driving test and trying not to lose my license as you'd soon be well beyond the legal limits. If I can find the right road I might put another vid together

@christmasisawesome9348 2 года назад

Do your ears a favor. Remove that fake engine noise. They will thank you. Sport mode fake noise is bad. +R is even worse. There are 12 speakers, albeit terrible quality. Maybe an aftermarket speakers and subs can make me like the fake engine noise again.

@RemoveBeforeLaunch 2 года назад

Whilst I take your point about the fake noise, that’s only on the latest spec. Mine doesn’t have the fake noise through the speakers as it’s a 2017 car. It’s still not a great noise though. And I agree, fake noise through the speakers is not great, and neither are the speakers. All round the Civic does fail on the noise front.

@christmasisawesome9348 2 года назад

@@RemoveBeforeLaunch Ah yeah true

@alexvillalobos7137 2 года назад

Yup my door panels have some chips but the front end is good👍🏼 black with 20k