Honda CRF300L and Suzuki DRZ400 review and comparison Which motorcycle is the better dual sport?

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Honda CRF300L and Suzuki DRZ400 review and comparison Which motorcycle is the better dual sport?
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@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

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@TrekTracks74 3 года назад

Own a 250l and have been trying to buy a 300l but , they are harder to find than Joe Biden at a press conference.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

😂 I hear it is getting better tho.

@SideMoneyTom Год назад

Still can’t find one

@garym51124 Год назад

Fjb

@Seveneleven44 Год назад

My dealer had a trail 125 and a 300L ABS come in on a Wednesday. Called in the afternoon because I wanted the 125, they called the next morning and it was already sold. I drove out that next morning and bought my 300l. Looked for both models brand new for about 5 months till I found one.

@BNatoAk Год назад

@@garym51124 I second that!!

@chadhoneycutt5874 Год назад

I have my dad's 2000 dr-z400s he bought it brand new I got it when he passed away In 2016 I love it and I still ride it

@richardhopp8574 3 года назад

Interesting view point you have. I am 5"9" tall with an inseam of 30". I have had my DRZ400 from new in 2009 and have put 27000+ miles on it. No top end or even having to adjust the valves. Just put plugs and oil. This year I finally changed the coolant. Yes i have installed the 1" drop links in it but also had to change the rear shock spring to a heavier one. I have done a 400+ mile road day with the original stock seat to Daytona Beach bike week. The only thing that hurt was my wrist from holding the throttle open. But I will admit there is better seats out there than the stock and i finally broke down and got one.I got 59mpg stock. I did a 3x3 mod and jets to get better hp and throttle response. It gets 54mpg with that mod. I get all i wanted so i put a pumper carb on it and got 50mpg. I live in Georgia and have taken it to NM and CO riding single and two track in the mountains. I did change the tires to 606s. It will walk away from the Honda crf250s and the Yamaha wr250 at any elevation. But there is a much better carb (Lectron) for the DRZ that does make the bike run far better at elevation changes. The bike is top heavy and that you have to deal with. I greatly reduced the buzzing in the pegs by changing to much larger dirt bike pegs with far better grip. The dirt ability is not up to my KTM 350exc but that is a legal plated dirt bike. I have a aluminum skid plate and it does not have to be removed for an oil change. A friend and i go back country motorcycle camping and it handles the extra weight very well. I have not got to ride the new Honda 300 or Kawasaki 300 to compare. I will add that I think dual sport bikes of any manufacture are my favorite rides. I do commend you on a very well done video. Keep up the Great Work

@czrider6300 2 года назад

Hello. Do you ride any of the GA state managed trails?

@f18a 3 года назад

Well done. This video strikes me as an honest, balanced comparison between the DRZ400 and the 300L. I own a 2019 DRZ400S that I heavily modified, including lowering it 30mm. It's a great DS motorcycle that leans toward it's dirtbike roots. It has *much* more torque and power than any 300L. And a 300L needs $800+ to have a comparable suspension. But it is not refined. It vibrates a bit, snarls a bit, and demands more skill and work from the rider than a 300L. Pretty much as you describe. So what do you want? A '69 V-8 Camaro or a '21 V-6 Camaro?

@mikew5988 3 года назад

I was going to leave a comment till You took the words right out of my mouth. I think I'll stay with the 69V8. Well put👌:-)

@bryananderson3772 2 года назад

@@mikew5988 awful comparison lol

@PureCountryof91 2 года назад

The current v6 makes almost the same as a classic v8 though.. lmao

@jamescox4823 Год назад

@@PureCountryof91 not the same... only on the spec sheet

@MrTmax74 Год назад

@@PureCountryof91 maybe the question should be, do you want it to rumble your butt or not? Ha ha.

@Toddwith2dogs 3 года назад

I owned a DRZ400S and currently own a new CRF300L. The only thing the DRZ wins out on is power. That's it for me. Totally agree on the DRZ wanting to stand straight up or lay on its side. But man I miss twisting the throttle on the DRZ

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Todd this is exactly what I am saying in the video. The problem is most people cant handle hearing anything but positive stuff about the bikes they like. I mean Im trying to be fair as possible but also speak how I really feel.

@Toddwith2dogs 3 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad Did we just become best friends?!?! Ride safe!

@FAFO_24 3 года назад

Does the 300L still have adequate power tho? Is it almost a deal breaker? I'm wanting to pay off my Harley and get one and I'm a Honda fan

@newbee1976 3 года назад

I had drz400s for a 10 yrs, and now i own crf300l. Drz have better power and torque and much better suspension than CRF. But worst thig about drz is close ratio gear box and vibey engine on higher revs, in that area crf is shining, very smooth engine and exelent gearbox. Worst thing on crf is suspension, especialy rear shock. I changed a lot of duals sport bikes, but non of them had so bad shock as crf.

@fsalda1942 3 года назад

I bought a DRZ400S with less than five hundred miles in 2019 for $3500. I freaking love it. Thanks for the good video

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

WOW, you got a deal man. Congratulation, I would have bought it too. Thats a brand new bike. Yeah I like the DRZ as of what they sell new and the price point its in my top 3.

@Wooskii1 3 года назад

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a new 2016 for $4,200 in late 2017. Seems to me like they are actually going up in value, you got a killer deal!

@habharris 3 года назад

Great fair comparison, great work. When I was thinking about getting a bike after not having even sat on one for the last 45 years, my mates that ride said the DRZ was a good choice for me. I was convinced too until I sat on my son's new WR250F (37.6" seat height) and couldn't even tip toe one foot. I'm only 5' 8" so decided on 35" as a maximum. In Australia that only left the 300L, the XT250 or KTX250S without going smaller. The Honda seems the best choice of these so I ordered one a couple of months ago. Can't wait but it may be a few months more!

@keithkent6275 2 года назад

Keen to hear your first impressions of the 300l

@habharris 2 года назад

@@keithkent6275 I got my bike in late Oct 2021 and I'm liking it more every ride. The only mods are an AXP bash plate, Renthal 7/8" bars, Barkbuster Jet handguards, Michelin Tracker tyres and recently changed the rear shock to a Rally Raid stage 1. The shock is excellent, much more settled over the rough stuff and even seems to make the road riding feel less twitchy. That could also be partly due to the Trackers having 1500km, so less knobs to squirm. Fuel economy is great, I usually get 32+ km/l (75 US mpg). My riding is mostly mixed trail type riding. I avoid freeways and major highways. It's a great bike for this type of stuff. I've done a bit of harder enduro with mates on Euro 2 strokes and can get it done, but I'm much slower and I don't overly enjoy it, possibly due to some wear in the 63 yr old body!

@middo1259 2 года назад

I'm Aussie too, & shorter than you. I bought a KTM 690 new in 2014 & persisted for about 4 years but just got sick of it's height, even after lowering it to the point of ruining it. Now I have CRF250L & really satisfied. I thought I'd be disappointed in the drop in power, & yeah that enters my head but only infrequently. Rest of the time I'm just loving the 250's refinement onroad & offroad, the quality, reliability, affordability. Thought about tradein for 300 but not in any hurry. I feel the CRF will take me anywhere I want, and get me home, enjoyably & in comfort. Best tool for my job.

@trailtrashgarage 2 года назад

I own a DRZ and my riding buddy has a KLX300. Your review hits the nail on the head. The DRZ is a fantastic bike for its age and deserves respect for staying relevant for so long but it is an old design and the new 300’s are surpassing it in SOME areas. Very interesting in looking at the spec sheets with the DR350 in the mix. Can’t help wondering what an updated DR350 would look like. And by updated I mean add liquid cooling fuel injection, modern chassis, suspension and brakes but try and hit the rest of the old specs. Hmmmm come on Suzuki!

@leviminton3320 2 года назад

I wish

@dougiequick1 2 года назад

The DRZ IS an upgraded DR 350 lol.....just such an ancient upgrade it does not much matter now is all....WHY Suzuki cheaped out on the transmission i have no idea but that was DUMB as he!! Had they only gotten that right (6 speed) this model would have been so worthy upgrading with fuel injection in recent years but as it stands Suzuki knows it would be feeding oats to a dead horse so they just keep selling the same old clunker to the few who will still buy them cause their buddy has one or ignorance or whatever...Everytime I think of it it angers me at Suzuki much the same kind of anger as against other companies that wont get off their butts...like Harley ignoring most genres of motorcycling (well finally they built a huge adv bike at least) Honda has such an apparent love of motorcycles being willing to build new and better machines for their loyal customers...Suzuki? They dont try much if you ask me expecially compared to Honda who listened to customers clamoring for the ultimate big bore dual sport for instance. Honda COULD have put lights and turn signals on the crf450r but instead they took the high road and re engineered THAT engine with new center cases large enough to fit a 6 speed tranny into and then went over all the other aspects to make it right for dual sport customers....a company that truly deserves customer loyalty compared to Suzuki

@Michael-qo8bs Год назад

And the electric boot! The dr350 is still stomp start...I believe.

@fastdude2002 Год назад

I rode the DRZ and both Honda and Kawi. I went with the “ancient” DRZ because of the power and torque. I weigh 200lbs and the 300s are gutless. Power is much more important to me than carb vs EFI and 5 vs 6 speed. Everyone downs the DRZ for 5 gears but because of the bigger engine and the gear ratios, gear spacing the DRZ revs less and has higher top speed and much more power on the freeway so 5 speed is not an issue. The DRZ suspension is also way better. It looks good on paper to have 6 speed and EFI but in real world riding the larger engined DRZ is much better in my opinion simply because of the power, the 300s are gutless……

@jamesmclaughlin1938 11 месяцев назад

This is one of the best and well-balanced videos I’ve watched, and sadly I have watched way too many videos. Yesterday I was going to buy a DRZ. Today it looks like I’m going to be a Honda boy Tune in tomorrow, it’ll be a Yamaha.

@brucekastel707 Год назад

One of the best comparison videos that I have ever seen. I've been riding since 1958 and am ready to give up my 175 HP bikes and go back to my roots of just having fun putting around. Most of my miles will be on road looking for off road trails so vibration along with a six speed are big factors. The deal breaker for me on the Suzuki along with a host of other similar bikes is the seat height. Seat height is a big deal for 80% of my off road riding while ground clearance hardly ever has been an issue. Watching Itchy Boots on her Patagonia to Prudhoe You Tube trip sold me on the Honda's reliability. (after abandiing her Enfield in Peru due to a COVID evacutation she continued from Equador to Prudhoe on a 300 Rally)

@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

Thank you, I am glad you liked it. And yes I have watched her as well, I did 2 videos on it.

@skutty5773 Год назад

The CRF is a nice bike but you wouldn't want to be going on a thousands of mile journey on it

@davidreed6779 7 месяцев назад

I'm seventy two years young and been riding along time. I have a 2021 crf 300l and love it. Very easy to ride great gas mileage. I did add a better seat a small wind screen and skid plate.

@stephaniemusick171 3 года назад

Suzuki could knock it out of the park if they would invest to put a six speed transmission and fuel injection on the DRZ400. If they really wanted to wow the dual sport and ADV community they could offer two models, a base DRZ like the base CRF300 and then a “rally” version like the CRF300 Rally. Otherwise, just add the FI and six speed and let us customize as we see fit.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Ohh yeah I would already have the DRZ400FI model if they had released it and with a 6th gear. I loved my suzuki. I didnt want to sell it eight, but I was never ridding it and I needed more for the Tenere 700.

@IAmYourReflection 3 года назад

Bore/strike out the engine a bit, add 6th gear, FI, and maybe a rally version similar to Honda's...and you have a u have the unicorn bike 🦄 Or if the honda was say 450 or 500 instead of 285 or whatever

@jimperry4420 3 года назад

It would probably be pushing ten grand though….

@bazabiker4870 3 года назад

I'm still running a 1997 DR350SE here in the United Kingdom (England), I purchased when 9 months old for £2500 with only 370 miles. 6 speed & air cooled simplicity. I fitted Stage 2 carb jets and aftermarket exhaust. They are going up in value here as are the DRZ 400. Because of emission laws, and not fuel injected, we've not had any new DRZ after 2008. They were never sold in high numbers as in the states, plus uk weather means many have rotted away etc. You are lucky to be able to purchase DRZ new & plenty second hand! I wrote to Suzuki last year suggesting that they fuel inject the DRZ for European market as I felt there was a high demand for that type of bike. They thanked me for the letter, but have done nothing. Meanwhile Honda have launched the CRF300 which is in high demand & short supply. Shame Suzuki cant spend a small amount of money developing a fuel injection system for an existing M/C (DRZ) that would certainly compete with the Honda 300 market. Add the 6th gear (DR350 gearbox) again already designed and they would have a winner.

@Thepig-wm5hq Год назад

Almost went drz, but the rally won me over with the fuel injection, 8000 service intervals, fuel mileage, & price. Felt I was going to get a bigger bang for my buck. Will hang onto my 94 dr 350s because I still love the Suzuki

@macedonadam 9 месяцев назад

Is the lack of power disappointing?

@johnridesadv2512 3 года назад

I own a DRZ400SM (supermoto model) and my son has a 300L dual sport. I've ridden both, and there's a reason the DRZ costs more. It's just a better bike overall. Ya ya, it's old tech, but once you get it dialed in, it's a great bike. To get the 300L to that same level, you would have to spend quite a bit more upgrading the suspension, and you will never get the same amount of power out of it since it has the smaller motor. The 300L is fun, but if you want a supermoto, the DRZ is hard to beat. Both are fun bikes, but if I had.... say.... $8000 to spend on a bike and mods, I'd take the DRZ everytime.

@CorePathway 3 года назад

Yes, a supermoto with a larger engine will be better on the road than a true dual sport. Right tool for the right job.

@Largetalons 3 года назад

Asides the extra grunt I don't see much advantage to the drz400. It weighs more and has a higher center of gravity, it only has a 5 speed, and it's still carbureted. If power is the main concern, neither are very fast. In this case the cheaper bike is packed with more features like abs and slipper clutch(and a decent display & modern electronics)

@Grizlek 2 года назад

@@Largetalons Чем плох карбюратор? Он надёжнее.

@heyby8764 2 года назад

@@Largetalons carb makes the throttle more snappy better for wheels. 5 speed dont matter not like your doing much highway on a dual sport anyways. Plus you got more torque. 300 needs 6 or she died young. Lol

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

**At the spec sheet on 3min the DRZ has 39HP. I tried to fix it but I cant not that it is up. Sorry for the inconvenience. Become a producer for exclusive content, Patreon link: www.patreon.com/MotorcyclesOffoad Amazon Store link: www.amazon.com/shop/EliteGamingHQ Other videos you may enjoy: WR250r vs the Honda CRF300L review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s0VY0wVymaY.html T7 full Tenere 700 review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-91R2W2Gt9Gk.html Honda 300L full review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-21MM-_iJhbA.html Honda 300L VS KLX300: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ie3Tp0d86T0.html Honda 300L VS DRZ400: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QeFyBMJkMqY.html Honda 300L VS Honda 250L: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-on1uzOHKNsk.html Honda 300L VS Yamaha Tenere 700: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XjaQ7DgpVlo.html Is the Honda CRF300L really the best Dual sport: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qBuIH0uKNpc.html Honda CRF 300L full performance with ECU, Exhaust, and intake: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZM85o2Tj65w.html BEST dual sport for adventure riding and motocamping: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZHIiNdR3BZQ.html

@jasieboii5565 3 года назад

Ive realized that for what i do and the terrain that i ride on is that the drz400 supermoto has been an amazing bike. It has offroad 17 inch tires that feel super stable because i ride in sugar sand. Only thing i could compare in sugar sand with the handling is the tw200.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

@@jasieboii5565 I ride sugar sand all the time. So are you saying you took the super moto with the 17"wheels and put off-road tires on it?

@jasieboii5565 3 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad yeah, the wide tires help to keep the bike stable because ive realized on the 18 21's that the tire wants to come out from under you alot

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

@@jasieboii5565 yeah but we run 21"/18" because it is the best overall off-road. It allows us to ride over rocks and pop over logs.

@hardtack8776 3 года назад

Good comparison….👍😊

@Baszilton 3 месяца назад

Its probably important to note that in reference to 15:30 - the DRZ400 will 'not' run without a functioning battery, it requires fully functioning battery, stator coil and reg/rec to run. :)

@brucerossonthetube 2 года назад

Great video. Although you mentioned fuel mileage, I may have missed the range. If you are going far back in to the bush, the ability to not have to carry extra fuel is a big deal for me. Love my 300 Rally ;)

@DR4WZ 3 года назад

I had been eyeballing a DR350 for over a year that I planned on buying on consignment. The guy took over a year and never had the bike ready to sell, so I decided the next logical step was the DRZ400. I could not shake the itch to finally ride off road, so I bought it in May of this year and it has taken over my life. I absolutely love this bike and am having a hard time getting on my other 4 road motorcycles (also have a '19 ZX6R, '05 Kawasaki Vulcan, '02 Suzuki Savage, and '18 Honda Grom). Learning to ride on dirt with this bike has definitely been humbling. It's "thrown me off" at least four times since owning it. Someone either smarter than me or less determined would easily lose confidence trying to learn to ride off road on this bike, as I had trouble getting back on this bike a couple times feeling like it wanted to kill me (I do ride very technical terrain vs my personal skill level). If I were to suggest a bike to start on, never ridden off road before, I wouldn't in good conscience, be able to recommend the DRZ400 to someone based on my experience. That being said, I personally made the right choice purchasing this bike now that I have begun to tame this thing!

@FlameHazeist 2 года назад

The DRZ is definitely not a beginner bike as it requires good throttle and clutch control to tame in the woods! Tight turns also require commitment due to the high center of gravity and the heavy weight of the bike!

@DR4WZ 2 года назад

@@FlameHazeist very true. And if you can't flat foot it, it becomes even more challenging. Especially on uneven terrain, low traction areas, etc.

@FlameHazeist 2 года назад

@@DR4WZ Tight turns on uneven terrain require even more commitment 😁. Funnily enough I also bought my DRZ in May and if it weren't for my 32" inseam I definitely would have fallen off a lot more 😆! Very low traction areas without the possibility of dabbing are definitely dreadful when you don't have good balancing skills yet! Ice obstacles are simply dreadful😬!

@DR4WZ 2 года назад

@@FlameHazeist 32" inseam here too. Someone's wish I were closer to a 34" with this bike! But again, I wouldn't trade my DR-Z for anything. It's just the right amount of fun, challenging, frustrating, rewarding. Actually now trying to find a reasonably priced DR200 for my wife so she can start riding trails with me.

@FlameHazeist 2 года назад

@@DR4WZ I also concur with the wish of being able to easily dab out of every sticky situation 😁. I'd trade mine, though it will only be when I can afford both the bike and the extra maintenance! The thought of riding the same 246 lbs bike as Graham Jarvis is simply too hard to resist! It will be a while though, so perfect excuse to become a better rider in the mean time😁.

@KentwoodWarrior 3 года назад

CRF300L vs WR250R

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

I just might have to do it, that is a video on a ton of peoples minds. I used to own a wr250.

@thinkingoutofthebox.9421 3 года назад

I've had a Drz400s in the past now got a BMW G650GS Sertao which is good on the Motorway sits happy at 75-80mph but is heavy off road at 190kg. Road my sons road legal Honda Crf450x and loved it off road, so light and powerful but the service intervals are a joke. So I'm getting a Crf300L.

@snupermoto723 Год назад

one note, a stock DRZ puts 33 hp to the ground, honda rates the CRF at 27 at the crank, which measures roughly 23 on a dynojet. DRZ is simpler to repair also, if you're not scared of a carb. if you're into power at all a CRF may not be enough, DRZ is barely enough but the torque is very nice.

@pbear216 2 месяца назад

I've towed my buddies DRZ400 out of the woods on many occasions with my 250L........... just saying. 27,000 miles and 11 years old, and the 250L has never broken or left me stranded. In fact, it still has the original spark plug. Nothing has been replaced on the bike other than wheel bearings!

@fourtwentycg 2 года назад

Had a drz for 4 years now, have put 16,000 rough miles. Changing the oil every 1000 miles. Its the 4th bike I had, and by far my favorite. I'm only 5 foot 9, and havent had any issues with it on trails feeling too top heavy, have taken it through things I never should have been doing, and the old dirty drz kept me up, and got me through it. I dont think I'll ever get rid of the beast!

@67daltonknox 3 года назад

I had a 2001 DRZ400 and loved it. Then in 2009 the NFS failed to put out a fire because it was evening and they wanted to go home. By the next day it was out of control, raged for over a month and burned 150 square miles of the San Gabriels. The NFS were delighted. It meant they could close every fire road. I waited 5 years but it became apparent the lazy sods were never going to reopen the roads, so I sold my DRZ. I still miss it.

@ajsmotolife5641 3 года назад

The DRZ is much cheaper to mod, the suspension is much better, everything is readily available for it. Even with those mods on the CRF you're not gonna come close to a DRZ with 3x3, jetting and exhaust. It is rather annoying that Suzuki dosn't update it, but in some ways it's kind of a good thing. Also that oil change interval on the CRF sounds insane, would you really wait that long when riding offroad?

@thomasculkin349 3 года назад

I first saw one of your videos yesterday. Then knowing nothing of where you were riding, I thought "gee, that looks like the NJ Pines or thereabouts! Glad to see that I correctly recognized the location despite not having ridden in Southern NJ for over 30 years! I still miss it, nothing like it in Connecticut. I even have asked to have my cremains scattered in the Wharton Forest, that's how much i miss it.

@michaelloader4987 Год назад

I own a DRZ400sm. Using the supermoto rims I put on big knobby tires. Before the hate begins let me just say I have had a crf250x, crf450x, and a ktm530exc with plenty of off road and on road experience. I have been riding real dirt bikes since I was 5. All plated and street legal. The best and most fun bike I have ridden is the drz400sm on dirt tires. Destroys twisty roads and is super fun off road. Don’t knock until you try it.

@michaelloader4987 Год назад

Also did the JD kit on the drz and it was a game changer.

@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

I mean it could be good/fun. The thing is the more you move from one path the less efficient you are at another. So the twisty roads you mentioned are more dangerous with a higher change of slipping out because you have a much small contact patch with knobbies, less rubber touching the road. Offroad I can tell you a 17" rim will suffer hard on logs and rocks compared to the 21" front of a true dual sport. Some of the places I ride in the mountains you would have a really hard time with this size tire.

@michaelloader4987 Год назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad Ride the back woods of NH, ME, VT. Those bikes Iisted prior to my drz are some of the best off road bikes around. I have been log hopping and riding nasty terrain on that bike and never had an issue. In fact if you measure the 17 with a big knobby its only a half inch smaller than a 21 with a tire on it. Don’t forget its not always the bike. Most of time its the rider.

@michaelloader4987 Год назад

Also when I ride my drz it is 95 percent hard off road with a little bit of dirt roads and a touch of pavement. Trust me I can ride the dirt. Been doing it my whole life.

@francoisdewaal2644 4 месяца назад

I have a CRF250L and 2x DRZ400s with uograded carbs, exhaust and intake. The CRF is very mild, easy to ride, gets the job done. The DRZ is wild by comparison, much more fun. Better suspension. Depends on your needs and experience to choose between the 2

@MotorcyclesOffroad 4 месяца назад

Yeah I found the 250L to be a bit sluggish compared to my 300L.

@vanveen8472 3 года назад

I own a 2001 DRZ and this year after much waffling, I was going to buy a KTM 390 adv but was thrown off by the electronics so I went back to what I have always liked and bought a 2021 DRZ, and you know what, other than the mods I have made over the years there is no difference, although those trail wing tires take some getting used to, wish they would hurry up and wear out

@rider7806 3 года назад

I go with the Honda. Service intervals and overall cost & Honda dependability makes the CRF 300L the hands down winner IMO. Peace and long life!

@paulmorneault3994 3 года назад

how do you know? the bike is made in china with tons of cheap Chinese parts. where as the DRZ is made in JAPAN with quality parts. and as suzuki had a 5 year warranty (a few years ago) and honda will kinda cover you for 6 months. WAIT a minute...you are one of those HONDA IS BEST kinda person, aren't you? where as i am a honda mechanic...

@awatts222 3 года назад

My 300L is shit bro. Have fun

@ll.7927 3 года назад

Then the drz is for u long service intervals reliable bike n more power

@Brian-og4uu 3 года назад

@@paulmorneault3994 The CRF300L is made in Thailand, not China. I can't vouge for how much that could affect the build quality over the principle of it not being made in Japan, but they have the best reliability reputation for a reason that begins with the engineering done in Japan when developing the bike. If anything, people should be comparing it to a KLX300 which is much more of an apples to apples comparison in terms of modern tech, size, weight, and rider feel. Where did you see that it's made in China, or even made with cheap Chinese parts?

@clayramsey019 2 года назад

@@awatts222 why ya say that

@chriskennedy3018 2 года назад

I’ve ridden the crf300l off road, owned a 250l for 2 years. Recently bought the klx 300 and I couldn’t be happier. The new 300l motor and transmission are brilliant but the klx feels far more planted and stable off road to me. Great video!

@larrymoore2571 2 года назад

Unfortunately, the Honda CRF300L is unobtainable where I live. I went to the local Honda shop, and they said we had a 300L two months ago and we hope to get another before the end of the year. I asked if there is a mark-up from retail and he said total cost was just over $8,000.00 including license & title. OUCH!!

@swedbear4035 2 года назад

Great comparison! You"re very thorough! I would really love to see the crf300l vs wr250r, would it be possible for you to make that happen? I know that the wrr is no longer produced, but I don't mind buying a used bike 😃

@rogergress9520 3 года назад

A little dramatic intro is always good! This is a great comparison of two great bikes. {Although I will always lean towards the Honda until proven wrong!} These are the two I would consider. The visuals you make and show are very helpful to any rider to compare these bikes. I have said this before but, it is worth saying again: this is just like being there! The video is that crystal clear. ! The video is produced with time and talent for viewers to enjoy. Truly these videos are the top of the line with few even coming close. I also agree that the 6th gear is a true joy to have on the bike. Your open and honest views are filled with the knowledge of each bike. Excellent. Superior. Videos. Peace. !

@lindsey349 2 года назад

I own a 06 drz 400, Far as the mpg goes , Ive never got less then 50 mpg and as much as 65 mpg.

@teags603 3 года назад

Great video. I have a 2020 DRZ which I upgraded from a 2015 CRF250L and I have to say, carburetor is not the way to go. Modern gas does not do well with carbs and the DRZ has a vacuum petcock. Unless the DRZ is ridden all the time, and you treat the gas, you are going to run into problems. And you better be handy taking it apart bc the carb is in there. Just my two cents, but I'll likely be selling my DRZ in the spring.

@dank9288639 2 года назад

what are you getting instead?

@Annihilo 2 года назад

I feel like this should be a comparison of 450RL vs DRZ400, even though the RL is a clear winner. Everyone knows the DRZ has more power and better suspension to hold heavier weight. Those are usually the two things that it beats the 300L out on

@roleyrevs_DRZs 3 года назад

I've had DRZ's for over 15 years now. My current iteration is a DRZ462cc , with ACT wide ratio gearbox and custom fuel injection with a long range tank. These modifications are only achievable because the bike is 20 years old and has had 20 years of aftermarket development. It remains to be seen how long Honda will support this new model, how long was the CRF250L around?

@Largetalons 3 года назад

As far as achievements the drz should probably come fuel injected with a 6th gear out of the box. Extra range(and weight) is a preference but there are aftermarket tanks for the Honda. Tons of aftermarket for both...

@slakk5093 2 года назад

If the drz came with the act ratio and fuel injection as standard, I would of bought one already..

@stefanmajonez6571 3 года назад

Could you tell me how those two bikes relate to a CRF250L? I'm in the market for either an used CRF250L or a used DRZ400, the CRF300L looks absolutely perfect for me but I can't really afford it, I'd have to finance it etc. and buying a brand spanking new, pristine and shiny dirt bike would probably mean I'd baby it too much. I'd get the earlier 250L, but I'm afraid of the 250's low power. Which obviously leaves the DRZ400. Should I get the DRZ because of the cc's and power? Should I just not worry about the power and get a 250L? Or is the 300 just so much better that I should finance it and buy brand new? Thanks!

@davecarroll4086 2 года назад

I have a 250l and love it... plenty of power!

@stefanmajonez6571 2 года назад

@@davecarroll4086 Hi, one question - I'm doing 55mph daily, and going on 85mph highways maybe twice a year. Will a 250 be acceptable as a daily commuter? Probably won't do good on the highway, but 55mph for 15 minutes and then city riding should be aight? What's a comfortable cruise speed for this bike?

@tivowillieb 3 года назад

With my near stock (3x3 mod, jetting) 2007 DRZ400S I get 52mpg-60mpg. Mostly highway is 52mpg and mostly dirt roads I get 60mpg. Nice review, thanks. Buying new I would pick the CRF300L, no contest. But I bought used with a $3k budget and the DRZ400S won, no contest.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Yeah for 3k you cant beat a DRZ.

@toddkurtz7635 3 года назад

I always cringe when I see horsepower numbers and weight figures. The crf300l does indeed produce 27 horsepower, at the crank. The dr350s does produce about 30 hours at the crank. But the drz400s produces 39 horsepower at the crank. Your 33 hours figure is at the rear wheel. As far as weight, the dr350s weighs about 305 with a full tank of gas. Don't believe me? Stick it on a scale! I've owned both of the Suzukis and the 400 makes quite a bit more power than the 350 up top. And that's where the extra horsepower is.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Yeah honestly I dont like to even talk HP, but so many people use it as some sort of metric. They want to see it. I say whats more important is how the bike feels or handles. What most people dont understand is how those numbers are manipulated by the trans, sprockets, tire size, ect.

@IgWannA2 Год назад

I have a CRF300L and previously owned a DRZ400 Enduro model (plus a KTM 350 EXC-F inbetween) and in my opinion, while the DRZ's Enduro air suspension was better, the CRF feels so much lighter and the power delivery is smoother, it definitely has enough power for off road and is very luggable. In fact the CRF feels as light and manoeuvrable as the KTM which was a full 25kg/55lbs lighter. Don't ask me how. The weight must be lower down. For off road, CRF beats DRZ any day.

@suzetteshipman2741 3 года назад

It obvious you know little about a drz400s. I had 2, my 2 brothers still have 1 each since 2000 and 2006. MPG =60 to 65. There is no way a modified 300 honda will out accelerate a 400. Neither the Kawasaki nor the honda 300 can even beat a wr250r, which is my current bike. your bias is very evident.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

I know a ton about that bike, and enough to put my opinions out there. One reason I showed the clip of another youtuber is because I am not the only one who feels the way I do. Its cool you can be a fanboy for the DRZ or whatever bike you want thats fine by me because that is your opinion. The thing I run into the most is people like to pass judgement on bikes they never even rode. I least I have rode both bikes at length before I made my opinion.

@IAmYourReflection 3 года назад

It sure won't out accelerate a drz400, but that's not what always matters.. RU-vidr treketheos owns both a 300l rally and a wr250r, and the honda is faster 0-60 by nearly a second

@IAmYourReflection 3 года назад

I went with a drz400, bc I'm really tall and I prefer the extra power. plus i already had a more capable street bike with the Africa twin 👍✌

@Yamabrah_YZF 3 года назад

*laughs in CRF450RL*

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Because the video is also not about the DRZ400SM, That is not a good dual-sport its a different thing all together. 17" rims and street tires do not do offroad well. We are talking about 2 bikes that do offroad and road well. In which a comparison you have to mention which one is better then the other and what features they have.

@trickmustang1994 2 года назад

I have a 2017 Kawasaki z125 pro which I love. I can get over 115 mpg and it is light and nimble and does rather well on dirt roads with the stock tires. I've been looking at the Honda crf300l but I'm only 5' 9". Would I be able to put both feet on the ground?

@howdycapt9106 3 года назад

I am 6 ft 200 lb and i am wondering if the softer suspension on the 300 would be a problem i am debate between the drz400 and the crf300 and i am leaning towards the 300 but i would like your opinion, do you think the softer suspension would be a problem. I live on a ranch and would be ridding here so lots of bumps and rutts but also a lot of county roads and open fields. and if it would be better to just put a suspension upgrade on the 300 what should i get

@machupikachu1085 3 года назад

I you are just using the Honda for light off-roading, I think it would be ok. I was looking at both, and after doing a lot of research and asking around, I've decided on a slightly used Dr.Z. The stock suspension is excellent (set the preload, compression, and damps and you can jump it at your local motocross track) not so with the Honda. The Zuke is 7 pounds heavier, but if you invest in a couple of things like a lithium battery (-5 pounds) and a rear fender delete kit (-2 pounds) and led turn signals (-1 pound). Now you are at the same weight, but with 50% more horsepower. Add to that the MASSIVE aftermarket support (full replacement plastics are $100, usb power socket for $50, windscreens, kick starter kits, seat concepts seats, larger fuel tanks, rear racks, supermoto wheels, etc, etc) and I think you objectively have a better off road machine. Also, not sure if this matters, but if you are a heavier rider two thing worth mentioning may be the Honda's 1 piece frame vs. the DRZ subframe. Honda frame damage could potentially be far more costly. Moreover, if you are thinking about 2 upping, the Zuke will be the far better choice due to the aforementioned horsepower and more torque. Lastly if this matters to you, there is a far better chance of the Zuke being manufactured in Japan as many of them were, but all of the CRF 300's are made in Indonesia. A few must haves for the Zuke seem to be a skid plate, thumper talk case covers, and - as always - hand guards. Finally, I'm not sure what dealer prices are where you live, but where I am the Honda is going for around $8k out the door. You can probably find a good used Dr.Z for around half that. If you don't like the color, you can always change it - full aftermarket replacement plastics are only $100 :D Anyhoo, that's my 2 cents, but maybe it's some food for thought. Cheers!

@jdkrxw 2 года назад

DRZ all the way. I'm tall, so seat height is not an issue. I ride 90% off pavement with lots of single/no track. Ground clearance, suspension travel and power make it better for me. Tires are the key upgrade for either bike off road.

@underthedrone2735 5 месяцев назад

Once I got my DRZ dialed in, it's a dream to ride. Lowering the back end 1" really made a big difference. Not to knock the Honda, but if I had it to do over again I'd get the DRZ again.

@billsharko3007 18 дней назад

I have a 2017 DRZ 400S I did the 3x3 air box mod and JD jet kit I also put a 13 tooth drive sprocket good set of offroad tires and I ride the bike offroad 95% of the time and get around 60MPG. I have 10,000 trouble free offroad miles on the bike and it works great I don't need all the new fangle gimmicks.

@BillySBC 18 дней назад

Neither bike, choose the XR650L or the DR650. Why give up all that power and capability? My DR650 will do highway speeds without revving itself out and hit the offroad too, as will the XR650L. These little dualsports are cool, but they are somewhat limited. Why not just get the real thing and be done with it?

@malisinimicus4358 3 месяца назад

In 1991,92 Suzuki already had the best dual sport motorcycle and that bike was their TS200 two stroke with power valve, oil injection, comfortable seat, weighing in at 255lbs dry. It was the funnest bike I have owned. could go anywhere a KDXcould go and it topped out around 95mph. Bridgstone M22/23 hard pack knobbies (not road legal) were amazing both on road and off. Having a hard time deciding what dual sport to buy and considering a drz or crf 300L base/no abs or the crf450RL but know in my heart it the old TS were available today i would grab it in a heart beat! Thanks to the emmissions folks we can no longer have that awesome TS

@waltermiller249 3 года назад

The next drz400 is going to be amazing

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Yeah I think so too, fuel injection and 6th gear... it would be amazing.

@Jonathan-gz6tu 2 года назад

When is that supposed to happen? Why do these companies never update their bikes?

@carllachance7788 2 года назад

@@Jonathan-gz6tu because they would have to fit with new emission standards if they updated significantly their dual sport and a carbureted engine just can't pass nowadays emission requirements. Also new research and development costs would increase the price of the bike by a good margin, making it less appealing to buyers

@rocksolidhugo 3 года назад

I really like your friendly approach to these types of motorcycles. I still ride a DR350SE which I keep evolving, but in Europe DRZs are discontinued since 2008 due to emissions. The CRF seems to be the one that will replace the DR, maybe in 2022. Keep the good videos coming!

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

You have a DR350! nice man love that bike. I feel in time you will see a lot more 300Ls. For one as soon as they are available but also when more people get a chance to ride them. I have a ton of people tell me they are not good bikes or their stats are bad but are doing so from a perspective of never riding the bike, let alone riding it enough to make an opinion of it. Honestly you have to ride the bike before you can know how it will feel and react. Everyone who has taken mine for a ride comes back with nothing but positive things to say.

@bryananderson3772 2 года назад

Europe is such a terrible place to live now. More and more every year they tell you how you should live your life

@captainamerica9353 2 года назад

@@bryananderson3772 , same thing in the U.S. It's called the NWO.

@MotoCocoTV Год назад

Same with California lol

@YourLocalRaccoon 11 месяцев назад

For anyone coming to this video with the same question as me: the CRF300L makes roughly 22hp at the wheel, and the DRZ400S/SM make about 31hp at the wheel. 9-10 hp difference at this weight is a big difference. ACT gears and a 39/41 tooth rear sprocket and I think he'd change his mind on which bike he likes more.

@Ozzy-DRZ-Adventures 8 месяцев назад

Love the low end torque of the DRZ400E, if my current DRZ400E were to fail me, I would by the new Capeyork Edition in a heart beat, its just a fun bike to own, and the amount of after market parts and bling, you can really make the bike your own, only if the DRZ400E had a 6 speed transmission like the CRF300L

@markdearlove8634 2 года назад

Got the sunset. Great review. I've got a DRZ and was thinking of getting a CRF 300 rally. Cheers for the insights

@fmacdonald3559 3 года назад

Gday, great video. How would you compare them to the DR650?

@timsilva1944 3 года назад

DRZ S is fine off and on road. Can't speak of the Honda. I had a DRZ S, but wasn't happy with longer distance on pavement. Buzzy and not stable with the height and with knobbies. Sold it when I found an E model. 30 lbs lighter and more power. The DR 650 is great if doing more pavement. Very stable and more grunt to get you going. Good off road with suspension upgrades and proper skillset. A bit heavy for tight single track. Got 2 bikes for price of 1 new.

@dougiequick1 2 года назад

Suzuki has some nerve placing their msrp this high on a bike so long on tooth a bike so lacking a model the tooling was paid for ions ago! A bike they refuse to spend a single dime upgrading...anyone that buys a new one IMHO is rewarding Suzuki for such neglect of their customer base,...the ONLY thing that would make it okay would be to drop the price far below the newly crafted honda 300 and the Kawi too....shame on you Susuki....seriously? You cant even add fuel injection? And it desperately needs a 6 speed just get off your corporate butt and do RIGHT by dual sporters! Boycott this model! (unless used)

@jordanh9210 3 года назад

I got a Honda XL 250 degree, 125kg on a full tank and 28hp. It's a gem but I'm definitely getting the new 300L since it just seems like a sensible upgrade and it's hard to find parts for my XL let alone mods I want

@bryananderson3772 2 года назад

You will absolutely love the 300L. Mine is amazing

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

Did you end up getting that 300L?

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

Same here Bryan.

@bryananderson3772 2 года назад

The 300L has a 6000kmi service interval, gets 75mpg, fuel injection, liquid cooled, 6 speed and light weight. It's the better bike for 95% of riders who don't trailer their bike to the trails. Time to sit back and let the jealous hate roll in

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

lol Well when this video was new and I would share it I got a ton of hate but mostly this video is non bias so not to many come here with their rage.

@chrismorin4109 Год назад

I started with a DR250 then got the DR350 (Kickstart only) , moved to the DR650 , and now just picked up a used DRZ400 for 2900 . If you're not accustomed to riding tall bikes both of the latter are definitely intimidating especially to new riders. Having never ridden the Honda I can't really comment other than l think it's best feature to me would definitely be the no fuss EFI . Something I really like on all my road bikes over carburated. Tachs aren't important I feel a person should know by the sound of the motor when you get close to topping out. Great review!!!

@darrylmcginty1296 Год назад

There’s definitely a trick to getting those dr350’s cranked. It’s been many years since I had one. I think the sequence was release compression, kick 10 times then close compression? They are definitely not for the faint of heart lol.

@brianj4543 3 года назад

I have a 2020 crf250l and a 2021 SWM 300r and seriously looked at the DRZ400e until deciding on the SWM due to same HP but 30kg (66lbs) lighter. Really happy with the SWM and my son who learnt of n the 250l is saving up to get the 300l so good to hear the reviews. Here the price of the CRF300l is Au$7800 (which is US$5460) + 500 for 12 months on road costs (insurance is around $300 of that on road costs) SWM by comparison is $8100

@henryjanssen7851 3 года назад

I would also be interested to see the swm300 against the 250l

@pbear216 2 месяца назад

I'll save you the trouble. The 250L and the 300L are leaps and bounds better bikes than the DRZ400

@elite8245 Год назад

The DRZ is the king. It’s a classic that will NEVER die

@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

I have a full DRZ review coming soon, was working on the bike last weekend actually.

@klong4uify 3 года назад

Great video. I find it hard to believe that the best dual sport bikes off all time are the two spanking brand new ones lol. I bet they are good, but best of all time? I'm going to have to take your word for it since I haven't ridden either of the new 300's. I have ridden the Honda CRF250 though and that's a lame bike. It's hard to image the bike went from a zero to a hero, but maybe. I hear good things about the bike and I'm happy to see new smaller bikes being produced, so that's a great thing. Keep up the great videos.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Honesty that is a fair assessment. I was going to use that for a topic of a video coming in the future, about how well the newer bikes perform and are made.

@keithquinn5624 Год назад

Half the fun is the power, no 250 or 300 dual sport has power, they literally are scooters, no pull. Drz400 or dr650 are winners.

@notsoaveragejoe2JZ Год назад

Crazy, around here, a used crf300l are not cheap. They are online for about $6500 with thousands of miles on them. Bummer

@autonomousindividual7780 3 года назад

I love my DRZ. I love the simplicity and there is a WORLD of aftermarket for it. Has plenty of power with some mods. If it had a 6th gear I'd sign a paper that says I cant have anything else in this life for a dualsport. As far as tech...who cares, it does very little for a bike like this. The DRZ works and works well even if abused. You can make it a dirtbike or an adventure bike.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Yeah dont get me wrong I love the DRZ, my only thing is it always feels less balanced to me. I love the way the 300L feels on trails.

@autonomousindividual7780 3 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad I know, I think, exactly what you mean. I'm 5'6" and by me, central NJ, all I seem to find is sand. Feels so top heavy and when it goes over just a bit and I reach down with a tip toe into sugary sand its over. Has me thinking about a beta 300 or 390. Something much lighter. But damn, those bikes are north of $11k once you set them up a little. That's a lot of money for someone that really can't ride that well.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

@@autonomousindividual7780 add MotorCyclesoffroad on Facebook and send me a message, maybe we can meet up for a ride.

@autonomousindividual7780 3 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad Will do. Probably tomorrow. Have to make a FB page first. Mr antisocial here. But I've been meaning to get it for such situations and the marketplace.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

@@autonomousindividual7780 ohh yeah man for marketplace alone it's worth it. It's like Craig's list except you can see right away if someone is fake or a scammer.

@justjanse4286 3 года назад

i bought my first bike a week or so ago, it is a DRZ400e 2006, I found the bike very forgiving especially for a new guy like me, i must add that I first started on a friends bike riding on a xr190, two different ponies

@xtcrider8270 3 года назад

Have fun on it. You'll love the bike

@justintynan2435 2 года назад

My first DRZ400s, I took the advice from a veteran single track/dual sport racer. He told me to get the suspension setup for my weight. New springs, go up two teeth on the rear sprocket and a good set of tires makes a world of difference.

@morsog1287 2 года назад

where did you get the new springs for your weight?

@justintynan2435 2 года назад

@@morsog1287 Race tech is where the suspension guy sourced the parts. Edit: I had took my current drz400sm to a suspension guy for springs and gold valves. But my 2000 drz400s I had done the springs my self. I remember I had to make some spacers from pcv pipe unions (followed the advice from the tech support at Race tech

@RookCustoms Год назад

I don't know heavier bike n a good clip of less horsepower n torque. I think I am gonna keep the DRZ 400E

@KairyuRider 2 года назад

Just was you klx vs crf vid. Here in japan The crf brand new is about rhe same price as the highest mileage used drz or wr I could find. So looks like I'm going towards the crf. And in my defense, japan is an earthquake on the side of a cliff, ask how I know😅

@daytonaaron3292 7 месяцев назад

Crf300l is by far the best bang for your buck, wouldn’t trade mine for the world!

@masterprediction7353 Год назад

Is there something like the drz that is just as reliable and also has a carburetor. I actually prefer a carburetor because I know I can fix it.

@mikep.9912 2 года назад

The front rake angle on the DRZ feel squirrelly and unstable compared to the Honda IMO.

@gearhead93adventures 11 месяцев назад

ive ridden the 250l and I hated it, in sw virginia, it didnt have enough power to pull hills without clutching the crap out of it, 250l and im sure the 300l could be much different is awful 👎

@MotorcyclesOffroad 11 месяцев назад

Well there could have been a bunch of factors but just stock alone the 300L is much different then the 250l. Along with better gearing the 300L has a much better power to weight ration. But I also did a sode by side of those 2 motorcycles.

@ronsexton3685 2 года назад

Oh come on. Extra parts will not help it out perform the DRZ. It just won't.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

The 3 DRZ owners I ride with disagree.

@ronsexton3685 2 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad When you say outperform, do you mean power? Those 300's will not have the same power.

@ronsexton3685 2 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad A lot of other reviews mention trouble pulling that 6th gear as well. Especially uphill with a little altitude.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

Are you saying stock? Mine has ECU, intake, and full exhaust. I have no problems.

@john.s1962 13 дней назад

Here the drz400 makes 40hp, how come in america they come with 33?

@alinn.4341 2 года назад

EU laws state that any new road legal bike sold has to have ABS. This is since 2013...

@keldonator 2 года назад

Ive been on a 300l list for a while now, always quoted out the door price of 7.5-8k. I bought a used 2019 drz400s with low miles for 5.5k with many mods I'd have done myself. I did this after watching many videos of 300l not able to climb hills the drz has no issues with. BTW the laptop and program required to change fuel trims isnt needed on the drz, just a few screws to adjust fuel.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

I climb all the hills, never an issue for me. Those people must not know how to ride. Also I got an ECU with advanced timing and 91 octane. With the 300L I dont have to change anything when I change elevation, which I do often. The 3 DRZ riders in my group, after riding both back to back, say the 300L is better. I also love 6th gear, fuel indicator, gear indicator, slipper clutch, 35" seat height, and the better ergonomics the 300L offers over the DRZ. The DRZ has better suspension and power but all the other things out weight it in my and the others opinion who ride them back to back.

@keldonator 2 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad It doesnt have the power to go slow up hills, the 300l will die. Id rather have 2.5k and more power personally, all the other stuff you mentions doesnt do anything for me, sure it would be nice but at the cost of power and money I made the right choice for myself. Hopefully some day a company will make a reliable 400-500cc that is like the 300l.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

@@keldonator it definitely does lol

@keldonator 2 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad Are you very light? You have never had it die going up long steep hills?

@MotorcyclesOffroad 2 года назад

@@keldonator I weight 240lbs, I go to the Pocono mountains and ride mine fine on hill climbs

@Tattooedpain 6 месяцев назад

DRZ all day long

@mohawksniper79 Год назад

Any one that has rode long enough knows that the old tech that is in the drz400 is exactly why it's still one of the top selling bikes and will be as long as they don't change anything other than putting the kick start back on it as a back up for the starter.

@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

It is funny you mentioned that because I just read an article on the top selling dual sport motorcycles and the DRZ400 was number 13 out of 15 on the list. Suzuki has also fallen to the 6th largest motorcycle manufacturer with the top leader (honda) almost 5x the amount in sales numbers. Suzuki used to be on top but I think with so many years of no innovation they have fallen lower and lower. The list was as follows on annual sales. Honda $14,000,000,000 Yamaha $13,830,000,000 Baja $4,200,000,000 HarleyD $4,050,000,000 Hero $3,954,000,000 Suzuki $3,203,000,000

@DizzerGuy 7 месяцев назад

I've owned both. Still own drz. Honda just felt cheap to me.

@MA-dz9qt 2 года назад

Crf user. 5'11, 85kg No regrets off & on road

@ddacaro 3 года назад

BUMP START CRF300L | I was curious if I could bump start my 300L and did it in 3rd gear down a modest hill of dry packed dirt quite easily last week. Someone I think elsewhere pointed out it was not recommended in the manual though I'm not sure if they were talking about the 250L or 300L. At least I know worst case scenario (best case terrian, ie hill and good traction) I can bump it into life if need be. Actually, just read your other reply about battery having a role in fuel injected bikes to prime the injector, and my test was done with a good battery, so I'm not sure if it played a role in helping supply fuel during my test as the bump was initiating or not?

@Hearfortheride 3 года назад

I think the battery being good is the only reason you succeeded. Injected bikes need fuel delivered from the fuel pump which is battery driven until bike is running. Carbd bikes need only gravity to deliver the fuel

@MotorcyclesOffroad 3 года назад

Did you bump start it with the battery disconnected?

@davidlang80 3 года назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroad why not

@lamototouschemins 2 года назад

IN my knowledge, the DRZ-400-S is a 40HP bike, not 33HP. The DRZ-400-E is given for 48HP... That's a much bigger difference with the CRF 300 with its 30HP.

@bigreds_ 8 месяцев назад

I know it was just a passing comment, but there's no reason you can't bump-start an EFI bike. Sometimes it takes a bit longer than with an analogue bike because the ECU and pump wont start until the wheel's turned the engine enough to get the ECU running, but I've done it several times on an assortment of bikes now.

@MotorcyclesOffroad 8 месяцев назад

Yeah I think I was wrong about that. Some other people have said they had luck doing it as well.

@czrider6300 2 года назад

20 years old…meh….bike technology other that FI kinda stalled out 10-15 years ago. The evolution slowed down a lot as the bikes by all manufacturers were almost alike. A 15yo YZ250 is the same as a new one. For example.

@czrider6300 2 года назад

So I’m saying about the only thing on a DRZ to update the bike would be FI (👎🏼) and maybe some inverted forks n a 6th gear. But the bike would still perform the same. In my opinion.

@WasThere. 9 месяцев назад

Вот за что не люблю иностранцев - рот у вас не закрывается ни на секунду... Хочется послушать звук мотора, а вместо этого слышишь только Бла-бла-бла...

@slinginlead1 3 года назад

I'm glad that you showed the clip with the 701. The 701 is awesome on gravel because of the advanced traction control. I hope that you get a chance to ride one. Great video btw, I think your review was very fair. I subscribed and look forward to your future content. Keep up the great work.

@irishflyer6377 2 года назад

We ride exactly this kind of trails. I have the DRZ and several of the others have CRF250 & CRF300. I Like the Michelin Tracker tyres

@saymyname3097 Год назад

What, no hope for Jacob with the Sasuki DRZ 400 with carburetor. Not even Obi-wan Kenobi can bring this lad back from the dark side.🤣

@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

Haha, just a little fun with the intro.

@alexicon_ Год назад

great insights as always! seat height is pretty much a non-starter for me, shorty with even shortier legs. but can't knock the availability, if you want a bike NOW there's always a drz :)

@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

Well at first the seat height will matter, after a few years of riding you will be able to easily handle taller bikes.

@sethfg Год назад

@@MotorcyclesOffroadyou can lower the drz.

@bartoszpajak2285 2 года назад

In Europe, the DRZ isn't sold for 12 years, as far, as I remember and the KLX300 never was sold over here. Since most of the used bikes are quite old, most of them are simply garbage. So the only choice you have is a) buy a competition enduro with its low maintenance intervals (not so ideal for every day) or buy a CRF300, THAT'S IT! I bought mine in spring this year, upgraded the suspension immediately (I'm 6'1" and 200lb with all my gear, so the stock suspension was a no-go) and I'm pretty satisfied with it. Sure, some more power would be great, but otherwise, it's all I need for my trail riding.

@Jukithesuzuki Год назад

I bought my very first bike this year. I based my purchase on information gathered on videos here on RU-vid such as this one! I was considering the 390 Adventure, but after 2 deals went south I decided on the DRZ 400S. I have no personal experience with any other bike. I do have some issues with my drz (kickstand safety switch is a death trap off road, I deleted it mid ride just to get out of the woods...... glad I watched that video lol). The seat is too hard (which is the general consensus). I have had it since the first of April 23', I've put just over 1300 km on it. The oil change is a joke (easy), yhea it's 2 drain plugs, 3 nuts, a cover, 2 crush rings an oil filter and 2 rubber o-rings....😅 but it's easy and accessible. I've made a few mods, handle bar grips, side case protector, upgraded tires (Tractionator Desert H/ T) front and rear, a now more permanent kickstand safety switch delete, a CF bash plate from E-line. I'm still undecided on the tank or seat as an upgrade next..... I can stand about 4 hours on the DRZ seat continuously ( that gives me about 2/3 of fuel burned off road). I hear the halogen headlights suck (I haven't driven it at night yet. Thanks for the videos. Keep em' coming!!!

@jspencerg Год назад

I agree with your riding impressions as a DRZ400s owner. Why does it feel so top heavy? Doesn't look different, the weight is too high I guess.

@MotorcyclesOffroad Год назад

Suttle things like parts positioned in different locations as well as a 2" tall bike overall. The other thing you have to consider is the DRZ prototypes had to me launched with 90s technology, think of computers and cell phones back then. 30 years later we have physics engine simulators where we can put the entire bike in a program and see instant feedback on something as small as moving the radiator down 3 cm and how it will effect the bike on 30mph turns on a 20degress incline. You simply didn't have the tools then that the engineers do today. I am a NDT tech who works in QA so this is my field of work btw.

@ausforce1 3 года назад

The DRZ is a pig there is no amount of lipstick that can hide it's horrific too heavy, shockingly fueled, nasty suspension and just plain old unreliability. Yes unreliability, how many of your mates have a drz that ether runs bad, doesn't start when hot, or just plain old doesn't run 🤣. Owned them and sold them everytime, 5 gears is one gear less then it needs for on road and 1st is to tall for the dirt, bike is to too heavy for single track Enduro work and the right side up suspension is horrid. Buy a wr250r or look at one of the new 300cc bikes forget the DRZ unless your a broke ass bum, and if you are then try not to get butt hurt because I spoke the truth about your DRZ 😜

@trevorjameson3213 2 года назад

I wouldn't buy another DRZ-400. I bought a new one about 8 years ago, and only kept it for one year. I had never owned a motorcycle that I disliked so much. Terrible, worthless seat, very poor off-road handling (never could get the suspension dialed-in right, maybe it's the frame geometry, I don't know), and I also absolutely hated that stupid close ratio five speed transmission. It was horrible on the street as a result of the low gears, the engine was screaming at 60mph, not acceptable. But, the power was very good, I will give it that, it had great power and plenty of it. Anyway, I sold it and bought two bikes instead; a DR650 for mostly street use and mild off-road, and a YZ250X for strictly off-road. Still have them both, and enjoy them both with no complaints about either. When I was young, I bought a brand new 1991 DR-350S, the best motorcycle I ever had, it did street and dirt equally well and it had a ton of power and great top speed.

@donvaughan8335 3 года назад

I called Honda Powersports Chattanooga TN 9/28/2001 looking for the 2021 CRF300L Rally. Was told two to three months wait. They called next day and delivered it to me 9/30/2021. I saved $1700 over another dealer in GA. No dealer fees, no delivery fees. MSRP and $30 administrative fee only. I called 10 other dealers and no one had one of these in stock and did not know when they would get one. My salesman was Gus and very pleased with this purchase/service by dealer.

@Hyndsy 2 года назад

I have the rarer green version of the drz400e, also known as the 2003 Kawasaki KLX400R, as my first dual sport bike but coming from experience with motocross bikes, I'm going to have to jump on the DRZ400 train here, if you want a bike that is bulletproof and has enough power to climb some big hills,a fun thrash in the bush with your mates or even a bike for light commuting, then this is the bike for you