Honda CRF300L vs Kawasaki KLX300 

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@@ElMCH-vb7xv just like usual

@@jakeviolet2195 could get heavy

Hopefully next year

@@stevebratten6592 would love to see both

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT 👍🏼 - Wes

At 9:40, I went back to watch it again thinking that was odd.

The Honda needs a lot of help lol

Thanks Dan!

Bei Neuen Bikes muß die Bremse von Konservierung gereinigt werden,und die Klötze einfahren!

I want that same bike man

Good choice! We love that bike! - Wes

What upgrade would you recommend doing first!? We may or may not have a build coming...

@@rmatvmc I think the answer depends on what you will use the dual sport for most of the time. If you will ride it in the dirt mostly like I do with very little street riding except to get to the trail (moderate single track and some hill climbs), then I would say the first thing would be some better dirt oriented tires (90% dirt, 10% street rated tires, a.k.a DOT dirt tires) with possible some heavy duty tubes. If money isn't an issue with this dirt oriented build, then I would say go Tubliss front and rear with the DOT dirt tires. The second thing I would do is new ProTaper bars, because as soon as you drop the bike in your dirt riding adventure there is a 100% chance the bars will break or bend. The third/fourth item would be replacing the foot pegs with some wider ones and skid plate. If you are using the bike for more of an adventure bike (commuting to work possibly with some fire road mellow dirt terrain), then the first thing I would replace would be the seat with a Seat Concepts seat. Followed closely by the second item to change which would be the bars (see reason above), then the third would be a rack system on the back of the seat to hold down storage systems to aid in the commute or other mild fire road camping adventures. Yes, I answered more than you wanted, but I was answering (proactively) your question for people that may be interested in what to upgrade for the 2nd and 3rd priority.

Any chance you could link me the bars you got? Also, did you experience any cable issues (bar length making the cable too tight) from installing the new bar?

Sounds awesome! We cant wait to get some real luggage on these bikes!

There both made in Brazil or china.i wouldn't waste my $$$

​@@mikesteele1789Honda Wird in Thailand hergestellt

Clutch pull on my rally is one of my favorite features on the bike

Yeah that was definitely some dumb commentary on their part imo. Love the slipper clutch on my rally.

What suspension did you go with?

Wondering the same

does your KLX have enough torque to lug up hills in low rpm, say in 2nd or 3rd gear? I really want a 300 but am worried hey are noticeably underpowered in the off road

@@furr666 There are tons of variables to consider. I'm 250 lbs do I feel a lack of power at times...certainly. but for the most part yes, I pull hills reasonably for my riding style. If I'm lacking, I just drop a gear. You don't get much better unless you get a dirt only machine.

KTM makes one.

​@@bluezhawg2104Yea, but the parts are more expensive (whole bike is really) and not AS reliable as the jap bikes on average.

@@bluezhawg2104 No they don't . Just the engine clutter from my 501 is more than the engine+ exhaust note of the 300L

What was the biggest improvement that came from the fuel tuner?

@@rmatvmc I noticed a little bit better throttle response. The bike rides snappier, if that makes sense. When I put on the Delkevic slip on and the KX snorkel, I initially used the O2 sensor. However, my bike ran a little lean and the exhaust pipe was glowing slightly between the engine and the bend on pipe, but when I installed the EJK and deleted the O2. The bike runs a lot cooler. No more glowing pipe.

@@Dawgs241 what are your settings for the EJK? Thanks. I have a 2021 KLX300.

@@Muncherou812 as of right now, I'm using the 3rd setting listed on the EJK instructions, (Base Settings for stage 1 mods with KDX snorkel on. ) bike is running good with this.

I have the 13in delkevic, ejk tuner, tried kdx snorkel but bike runs better with no lid, and removed secondary throttle blade. Mods gave bike some serious grunt and throttle is super snappy

And you'd be lying to say it wasn't enough - simply because you don't enjoy the ride unless your bike without any dual sport luggage on it has the rear wheel throwing a roost every foot of the ride.

To be honest, yes I would prefer the CRF with better suspension over the KLX. The engine is better. It vibrates less and pulls harder with a more linear power delivery... Not to mention the updated bodywork and looks. If you did decide to upgrade suspension you'd be well over another $1K into an entry level/ budget bike. You couldn't go wrong with either of these bikes but stay tuned for our light ADV setup and comparison of these bikes! We just finished filming it and it should give you more insight and experience with the bikes. - Wes

@@rmatvmc thank you!! I really appreciate the in depth response from you Wes! Looking forward to the new video!

They both need replacement springs front and reat.

Honda was king 30-40 years ago. I rode red as well but don't be loyal. Makem earn it. Kawasaki was always my least favorite of the 4, but the KLX300SM is calling my name.

Sounds like.you got a pretty well sorted out klx. Where about in NY do you ride? I'm from long island, unfortunately not many legal places to ride here.

@@JohnnyBoy919 I am a little east of Albany. Have trails as close as 5 miles to as far as you could go. I want to do some more exploring, got back into bikes because one of my kids wanted to get into it. I said OK, but you have to start in the dirt. I found him a KLX230 and I found the 300, tough to find bikes last year. We did suspension on the 230 also, made both bike much more trail worthy. The racetech stuff makes the bike much more supple over the chop, rocks, roots but still can handle G outs, whoops, and small amounts of air really well - considering what the bike is and it's intended purpose.

@@nigel2447 That's awesome, wish there was more riding here. My cousin has a cabin in ohio NY where I go a couple times a year to ride.

I just got the 300 L I completly disagree with most these guys the Honda is way faster acceleration and top end just a few upgrades and it’ll be my perfect bike

“Always more fun to ride a slower by fast than a faster bike slow”

Won't that eat up the chain slider much faster?

@@alupangguam7560 Probably but I never had a problem. It saves the clutch for trails off-road though.

It's our pleasure. The Kawasaki is a good choice!

I’m looking into getting one of these bikes and I feel the same way. With upgraded suspension, the Honda has everything else. The KLX is a little bit more expensive already anyway. Would love to see a video on what you think of the bike when you get it!!

@@itz_brando_yo hey Brandon. I haven’t gone into any discussion of my thoughts and impressions but here is a short video of my first ride. So far I love the bike. I wouldn’t mind more power but it still is great. I have been traveling a lot and haven’t yet had the chance to take it off-road. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c11gXb6yxFM.html

@@savillecreations8046 awesome man thank you!!! I’m going to give it a watch right now. 🤙🏻

Thanks for your feedback! Much appreciated!

We're working on one! What are some of the upgrades you guys want to see??

@@rmatvmc Rally Raid or YSS suspension on the Honda with fork cartridges. For the price difference between the bikes purchase price you can add springs or valving to the KLX since it's already adjustable.

You both felt like the KLX was the way to go, but I feel like that was driven by the suspension. If you upgrade the suspension would the CRF be the way to go? ECU flash? Also would love to see you guys do them up as a small bore adventure bike and do a multi day trip.

@@rmatvmc This would be for a 90/10 trail vs street focused upgrade comparison. I posted earlier, but do the KLX similar to this: Delkavic slip on, KDX snorkel, secondary throttle removed, PCFC tuned for combo. Racetech gold valves front and rear, .46 kg/mm fork springs, 6.4 kg/mm rear spring. (185lb rider) D606 rear tire, MT21 front. IMS foot pegs. Renthal bars (less sweep than stock) and Zeta off set riser. 14t front 46t rear sprockets. You will get a big boost in midrange with the secondary throttle removed and retuned with the Power Commander FC. Racetech upgrade is top-notch, $850 if you can turn your own wrenches. It is still an inexpensive Japanese Dual sport, but it is a great trail bike now and the suspension is fantastic. Good (for what it is) midrange punch now. The secondary throttle really hinders the bike. For the CRF: You will have to do a rear shock replacement and a complete cartridge kit for the forks. Probably $2k minimum. Optimize tires, gearing, ergonomics stuff ... to make the eval level. You could do a tuner, but the Honda has good midrange out of the box. You will have to do back to back dynos (especially if you do any engine/tuner mods) to quiet the silliness of thinking either that either bike makes a lot of power or that one substantially out powers the other, tuner or no tuner. Thanks, hope you do it, as either of these bikes with some careful upgrades can handle some fairly rough offroad, just not at the pace that the European offerings can.

@@rmatvmc ecu flash and pipe and header and intake high flow air filter and put both threw the dyno to see who gets the most benefit from being upgraded 😀

Then try to imagine how fast you'd find the limits of the CRF...

@@alupangguam7560 I think I'll just stick with my YZ125 :) KYB SSS GOAT

OK HERE IT IS: THE REASON HAS TO DO WITH THE MANUFACTURES PASSING SMOG TESTS They don't change the DR's or any other larger bore bikes now. If the bike is not changed over the years they don't have to pass the current smog test. They are grandfathered in. If they change or add a new bike to the line up it will have to pass today's smog test. NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THIS WHY???

I'm in the same boat, let me know what u do and if your happy with your choice.

Noah, your post word for word describes me and my current situation. I'm also throwing the GPX 250 E into my equation as I've read lots off good things about it.

So plan on replacing the CRF's suspension and the clutch...as well as the black painted steel exhaust. Or just get the KLX.