I’ve had my hrx217 since 2012. It finally failed last Saturday. I thought the spring just came off. I tried to put the spring back on and that bracket shot out. I discovered just like you. I didn’t or the spring you mentioned but I think I will. Thanks for the video.
If we are to replace this part before the problem happens do we need to take all those parts off the mower... or is it easily accessible to replace the spring
I’ve got this one too but went back to my old HR194. It was stored, dry for 10 yrs....fresh oil & gas & HALF a pull & it started right up! Old one was best. 😁
The spring is an Oregon 05022 as you state. Just replaced the original Honda spring as you recommend, and works fine. Getting the original spring back on has been near-impossible, so your fix is much appreciated. Thanks for your help!
@@chucksw1 Yes, you have to take the plastic shroud off to get to the transmission. Kinda tricky - best to get a manual. The Oregon 05022 spring is much easier to install.
Ok. I got the spring you suggested and installed it on my new transmission. While it did work on the flats, on hills it bogged down. I replaced the spring with the heavy spring that honda calls for and the mower propeller much better. I think the lighter spring allows the belt to slip under a heavier load. My mower is a hrx217kvka with smart drive.
That spring is just a return spring. It returns the transmission to neutral. It shouldn't have anything to do with belt tension. There's an adjustment for tension on the cable.
On mine the spring provides tension on the belt. The cable operates a lever that engages the transmission. Without the heavier spring, the belt slips on the pulleys and doesn't propel as well. I tried it both ways.
I just looked up the part numbers on the Honda site for this spring on the HRX217 and compared it to the HRR216 spring. It's the same part number (24468-VE1-T00). The probable reason for not addressing or changing the spring is they may already have millions of these springs and don't have any other use for them. Or maybe they may have addressed in newer models. The HRN216 spring has a different part number (24468-VL0-P00). The spring looks the same in the diagram but attaches to the top of the deck instead of the rear (now vertical instead of horizontal). The HRN transmission doesn't look nearly as "Beefy" as the HRX, either. Thanks for the Oregon part number. I haven't had the issue yet but then; I haven't taken either of the mowers apart that far to check. That's going to change really quick. Please post any other quirks that you have noticed on the machines if you can. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again. Have a Great Day!
Good video. Mine gets stuck in propel and slamming it is no longer unsticking it. I am just going to take the belt off and use as a push. Wheel and transmission assembly is a jigsaw just like you said. First years were good but now I am cleaning the carb every 3 months
I just checked my Honda HRX 217 from 2011, there is absolutely no sign of wear on the spring or on the spring connection points on the brackets. Informative video though, thanks!
I like your style.No BS! So does this have anything to do with my HRX217VKA that makes a metalic rubbing noise when i shut the engine off and the hydro not engaged? There's no issues with it otherwise. It pulls along good when I engage the tranny.
Nice Video. Just had a customer call me and he has the same mower HRX217 and transmission quit working.. I haven't torn one down before so I'll look up how to dissaemble tonight to the spring if that's the problem. Thanks for the great video
Out of all the lawn mowers ever made what ones don’t you ever see in your shop? I’m looking for one of those lol.. Seriously best lawnmowers made? I still use my Toro 2 cycle Suzuki religiously but looking for a backup.
I like the 30s, they're expensive and all hav problems. But I like the the toro 30 timemaster. Cuts good, bags,ect... but they don't like wet heavy grass and expensive.
I have one of these that my brother was going to throw out becase it wouldn't start 5 years ago. I took the carb of and and gave it a good cleaning. It fired right up. Now the drive dosen't work. I tried to adjust the cable that didn't seam to work. The belt is there and intact. Since you have worked on many these do you have any ideas of what it could be? How do you know if the trans is bad? Thanks for the video.
If u can roll the mower backwards with drive engaged, its probably belts or springs, if u can't pull backwards its probably the trans. Thanx for comment
I’ve got a Honda hrx 217 with the hydrostatic transmission on it and It will not self propel unless it’s on the highest 3 settings and when it does self propel it’s very slow. Do I need to refill the fluid? Or is it another part
Glad everything doing well with you. I enjoyed your education on shop safety. Would you do another one with a dry easel board so as you explained this we can write down your recommendations on items to purchased, basic general information would be appreciated. You have good peoples skills to teach us, because that we like doing this kind of work.
I still have my 2009 Honda hrx 217 VYA we'll have to check the condition of that return spring plate today. Do you happen to have a video showing how to disassemble and reassemble using the lighter duty spring fix?
My transmission is just loose,,,, the belt is good, I am thinking the spring broke Do I need to take it apart to get a new spring in there? thanks for sharing? Praise Jesus love your end of the video what a blessing !!
What is Honda's method for re-installing the original spring? It's a nightmare and almost impossible to stretch it far enough to hook it back to the transmission bracket.
I have been working on Honda mower for 11 years and am a honda master tech and i have never seen any mower do that before I've see the spring brake in half or the belt snap but i agree that spring it to stiff for what it does
I have a cub cadet riding lawnmower 22hp I put a new fuel pump and new air filter and a new fuel filter on it, and it won't start. Can you tell me what's the problem? I'm stumped.
Hi Carl. Today my HRX217 self propelled keeps wanting to stay engaged even when I take my hand off drive, Not all the time but alot. I got under it and hit the cable near transmission with WD40 but cant see it from the top going to the drive switch. Any ideas?
@@Preacher7633 ty sir it was indeed the cable adjuster wire I believe it’s called, ty for pointing me in the right direction, and it moves pretty fast like when I bought it
What type of symptoms do this have if the spring is not connected? My mower I can’t pull backwards. It goes forward fine. The wheel’s just won’t spin backwards when it’s in neutral
The spring in the video, is a return spring, it returns the transmission to neutral. If ur having those problems,, the transmission isn't going all the way back,, could be the spring. Try rotating the transmission back by hand an see if that takes care of the problem. May have to move the lever by hand
I just got a honda hrx217 versamow 4 in 1 that the customer says won't go forward. Indeed it won't push forward. It rolls backward but not forward. Is it that spring control for the neutral in the transmission??
I loved my Honda hrx217 until with less than 20 hours on it the valve stem guide blew out and then caused my rocker arm to break. Easy fix but I'm wondering if its gonna continue to be an issue. Curious if its been an issue with the Hondas you've worked on.
Not had many head issues. The engines are usually bulletproof. Except for that choke system, can be hard to start when they get some age on them. Most problems I see is the design of the body and transmission. But they're a good mower, just like all mowers, they all have some issues.. Thanks for the comment and question.
I have an HRX217 and this is my exact problem... Does anyone know of a link how to get to the spring and bracket??? Remove the shrouds he doesn't show here???
I have a old craftsman the belt is ran on top of the mower deck going to the transmission it's a keeper I only have to remove one plastic shield on easy as pie why they got to make it complicated
@@clsmallenginerepair3814 I have to replace my drive clutch cable but they sold me a kit to replace the input arm on the transmission because arm bends over cable end and you cant get it out. Have you done some of these mods?
Honda doesn't give a damn about your mower problem! Mine is only 4 years old and is junk. I'd push it into the Ohio River but would be arrested for polluting!
That’s strange. I’ve worked on 100’s of those mowers and have yet to run across that problem. I do know what your talking about with those damn springs. They are definitely overkill.
Great video , All these new cars , mowers are probably computer designed . This means a lot of things go unchecked , not tested , over looked . You end up with big defects in the final product . We have all this technology and things are getting worse . Someone is not doing there job , or has that job been eliminated .
My hrx217 is the biggest piece of crap I ever bought. The cable that he is showing either broke or was cut as he shows. only had used it three times. Took it to the Honda dealer where it took the Honda dealer three nonths summer months to repair Got it back, stored it this winter and now the cable will not put it in gear to move. one year and the battery is dead. will not buy another one. The wait times and quality repairs are dodo and ship.
