Honda Innova Tour of Scotland review and Rigid Industries Lights 

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Small bikes rock

@@motorcyclewild5873 Check a youtube channel called c90 adventure to see what this bike can do LOL... thank me later

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Thanks for your comments John. I must have missed your comment originally as I never replied at the time. I am starting very soon to make some new content again. Best regards

Indeed you are quite correct! I have always loved the small bikes and the Cub type bikes are in a league of their own. I miss this Innova. Incidentally, I sold this bike four years ago before I moved 450 miles north to Scotland. You wouldn't believe me if I told you that this bike now lives in the next village away from me! What are the chances of that happening I wonder?

Yes they seem to go on don’t they without too much maintenance. The lights were in a very early stage of my learning. I’ve since made up some great looms and systems for various bikes but the Rigid lights really do give you a great performance. Thanks for your comments

The headlight upgrade worked well and was really a bit of an experiment. Only problem is you need to float the ground wire on the stator and convert everything to DC to make it work properly. I found myself very short of electric at times but you live and learn eh? I’d definitely have another innova. The one in this video lives less than three miles from me now. It must have followed me 450 miles up country when I sold it and moved home to Scotland. Funny how these things work out. Thanks for your comments and best regards

Agreed, that would be great 👍

The CT125 looks great fun. Honda makes a great range of 125 bikes. Also, thank you Dr Campbell for all your videos. I've been a subscriber since Feb 2020, watching every day and take daily Vitamin D.

Hello! Where i can buy a good carrier for my Innova? I would like to do a travel for Portugal and i need It. Thank you so much and good luck.

Thanks James, I’m currently still up at 02:30 editing my latest video hopefully for upload tomorrow. I appreciate your comments and best regards from Fife 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Simon

It was a shame not to take the CB125F as I had originally planned. Bike bikes had different merits. The CB had an easy to fill large fuel tank, the innova did not. The innova had a kick start which may have been necessary after charging accessories all night. I may do another tour next year and maybe get another CB125F. It was a nice bike to ride with a lovely upright riding position. Maybe if I had used the fabric givi panniers they would have been closer to the bike and created less drag. All about a learning curve I guess

Yes it was good but I have a confession to make. It didn’t work so well! The problem was the pathetic charging system on the innova. I currently have a Vision 110 for commuting to work and I have rigid industries ignite spots on that plus, I have a heated vest, heated grips and a rear LED beacon to keep away the tailgating brigade on the dark winter nights and never do I suffer with a flat battery. The innova light system was definitely my inspiration to mod every bike I’ve had since with electric gizmo’s mind. Thanks for your comments and best regards

@@scootyman2974 do you have a video about how to fit the lights & rig them?

Scooty Man Hi scootyman what size model is your air hawk pillow please need one for my vision 110 . Many thanks phil

It was a great setup. The lights were useful too but looking back, I would have done them differently. I would have just had two extra lights for dip beam and not bothered so much about main beam. Still, you live and learn. Thanks for your comments

@@scootyman2974 what are you riding these days? I got my yamaha 250 xcity back on the road should be fun when things open up again

Hello hello hello !!!! Well you used to be just down the road to me in Alton. A town I used to work in and like very much. After making these videos, My girlfriend and I decided to move to Scotland and we live not so far from where some of these videos were made. England feels very crowded and aggressive compared to life here. There’s nowhere to park your car or take a walk without seeing masses of people. Plus, who can afford to buy a property there now. As much as I love England and would have liked to buy there again, I don’t regret my move north.

It was a nice motorcycle ad I wish they still made them to buy new here. Just the Supercub 125 available now. Thanks for your comments.

It was such a nice bike to tour on. I traded it in for a bike for my girlfriend and I believe the dealer just sold it :( Time to move on though with new bikes and new horizons. Ride safe

A GS is needed to carry the size and weight of the ego"s riding them

It’s called honda Supra series (110cc) or Supra X (125cc series) (this bike featured here) and also Supra GTR (150cc) in Indonesia. Some workshops has done modifications on Supra X so it has 250cc equivalent of engine. You can look it up on youtube.

Actually this type of motorcycle is called underbone, not scooter

Yes I am 112 years old tomorrow would this bike be alright for me with a £112 air hawk

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I really don't remember Nikolas but I think it was a Puig Traffic and they are still available today. Have a look on Webike Japan. They do some nice screens for the Cub type bikes. Best regards

I would recommend you use two and grow a second arse or go on a diet. You could always buy two lights and get a weekend job helping the coast guard as a lighthouse I guess. Hope that helps and just to say that Jesus probably loves you, but everyone else here thinks your a twat 😛. Best regards Scoots

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@@scootyman2974 Dear Mr Scooty man that is a wicked thing to say as I am in a minority group and a full time liberal, as for the ass I already have two, maybe you should put your funny headlamps on your head and spin round off the coast of Anglesey as a lighthouse saving the Government money

On this install, it didn't work so well if I'm honest. The problem is the amount of power the stator makes is very limited and the light feed is I believe half wave AC. You could float the light circuit on the stator and make it full wave, then use an uprated reg/rec to channel the power gain but you will need to rewire the light to run on a separate DC circuit.Not so easy and if that sounds like jargon, just google some of what i have said and you will find the information you need. You could always join the Facebook Vision 110 page and chat to me over there if you need further help. Best regards

@@scootyman2974 Thank you very much for the response! Will definitly try it on my Innova! Best regards!

Yes I would have to agree with you. That was also the case with the CB125F I had once I loaded it with hard panniers. Thanks for your comment and best regards.

@@scootyman2974 The 3 smallest bike i have rode for long journey are honda cg125, yamaha sr125 and yamaha ybr125. When i see your vids it remind me back the good memories on these small cc workhorse. Ride light and dont break our back picking up heavy motorcycles. Nowadays i will leave my heavy bmw bike at home and ride my yamaha xt250 or kawasaki versys 300x instead. Since im a retiree female rider, i prefer to enjoy the scenery along the journey in australia with cruising speed instead. Loves your video from me Hayliee😘😘😘😘😘

mikkei correct! I miss our innova now he's gone but we have a new kid on the block in our garage right now and I think it's here to stay. I'm recording a video right now and my review might surprise some. I guess it's moving with the times and "progress". Time will tell. Best regards

Janis Ciemgals I have a Koso mini 3 voltmeter but it would be no good in this instance. The reason being that a voltmeter measures voltage and not current (amps). When your voltmeter is telling you that your battery is at 9-10 volts, it's already too late and you are buggered! However, that's the reason I chose a scooter with a kick starter. I did have an incident where I flooded the bike with water in a large puddle/ditch and had to remove plug a few times and crank over the scooter to clear the cylinder. The kick starter saved the battery level in this instance. Removing the luggage every 110 miles was actually the best bit of the journey. I chatted to so many people in those few moments, it made the journey a much nicer experience. Take care on your travels and best regards

nooo, i think, you do not understand basics. voltmeter is super device for vehicles, where is battery. be sure, when that was very dumb to wait, when on battery is 10 volts, but luckily, voltmeter shows also a higher number too. as so, we know, fully charged lead battery have 12.7 - 12.8 volt level. as so, suppose, if you see numbers lover than that - say, 12.2 volts - you know, there is a problems with your charging circuit. then you have about 70% of battery left, and if turn off lights, that gives you about 50 -100 kilometers range - you can start find garage / civilization for repair and diagnostic problem. that means, vith voltmeter you always have a some reserve left. and that was very good. also you know, normal voltage in bort net is about 14.2 - 14.7 volts -as so, if you see 13.5 volts for long, you know there is some problem or generator overload. if you see voltage over 15 volts - again, you know there is some problem in electric part of vehicle. that give you early diagnostic, and help avoid boiling out, or flat battery. it is very difficult to overrate voltmeter on any vehicle - car, moped, motorcycle. about luggage - strange experience. i have very pissed off with luggage load / unload at fuel stations. one of most negative thing in all my travel to finland... about kickstarter - on these small mopeds, you can easily put it on a gear, and push it - that completely replace kickstarter.

Janis Ciemgals Ok then. That's fine, I know nothing. Let's agree to disagree then. Google motorcycle ammeter when you get five minutes. You'll find that an ammeter will tell you the exact current coming from the charging system before the battery decides to boil (over charge) or go flat! Regardless of this information, no matter what your charging system does, unless you carry half a bike in spare parts you are still buggered and calling for the breakdown service to nearest motorcycle dealer. By the way. Don't you think it would be easier to use a kick starter to clear a cylinder of muddy rain water or run up the road and drop the scooter in gear, then repeat 20 times? So.... anything else? Maybe you might like to tell me what I'm doing wrong with my luggage system or maybe how to improve my technique of climbing aboard my scooter? I'm all ears...........

ammeter is not near as good as voltmeter. say, you have sulphated battery - how you determine this with ammeter? how you determine overcharging? on overcharging and boiling ammeter readings was low - about 2-3 amps. i personally do not see situations, in what ammeter is better than voltmeter. in the same time, voltmeter installation is much more easy, than ammeter. do not take all too personally, dude. do as you like, but i personally prefer voltmeter over ammeter, and cant imagine situations, when ammeter is more informative than a voltmeter.

Janis Ciemgals Dude, with respect, I went on tour to Scotland on a scooter. It was fun, enough said, period. it wasn't in my thoughts that I should enlighten myself on the perils of a sulphated battery whilst I am hanging off the side of a mountain. Indeed an ammeter is exactly the instrument needed if you should be worried about such battery trauma. That's why they used to fit ammeters to old classic cars and motorcycles before the days of regulators. You had to switch on the lights to lower the charge rate etc. Plus if you know the charging rate before you have a problem, you will know if there is a problem regardless of the low amperage being measured. I have an ammeter on a solar charger hooked up to a leisure battery in my garage and it measures to 0.001 of an amp. With respect that's far more accurate than the Koso mini 3 can measure. I take your overall generic point though that monitoring your power levels may be beneficial in such circumstances. The thing is though, Honda's don't tend to go wrong if kept well maintained. My friend has a Kymco and that's a whole different conversation believe me. Best regards

Yeah, I know. I live here now. No such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes.

Are you referring to the lights? If so I probably wouldn’t. Whilst it worked, looking back there were times on this trip where the battery didn’t cope so well with the additional power consumption. If I were you I would float the stator and convert the half wave lighting circuit to full wave rectified and then change the wiring accordingly. Then maybe I would add a pair of rigid industries ignite spots and an LED conversion for the headlight. I made the bracket out of aluminium plate.

@@scootyman2974 I will have to look up what you’re talking about, I’m a total novice!

J-metal Nakamoto knee dragging on an innova 125? Really?

J-metal Nakamoto Why would you want two front discs on a 125 scooter that weighs 99 kgs? It doesn't have the mass or the speed to need any extra braking. I weigh 110 kgs and the bike used to stop fine with my weight. Interesting choice of mods. Best regards

It was a while ago since I had this bike however, I think around £5-£6 to fill and it was around 110-120 miles between fills. The tank was 3.7 litres capacity. Interestingly, this actual scooter which I sold when I lived in Hampshire now lives in the next small village across from me on Scotland. It’s like it followed me up. I also see my old Suzuki VanVan from time to time in Edinburgh. A little strange how they seem to follow me wherever I move to.

Hi John, Thanks for your interest in my video. I used a micro relay and its something I might consider covering in a future video. I'm currently preparing some more content and I'll see if it's possible to explain the install. Best regards Scoots

Ewan campbell Hello Ewan, The lights are made by a company called Rigid Industries. The two models I used are Dually (the big square one) and SRM2. However, I have since learned much about the electrical systems on these little scoots and on this particular scooter I would not recommend you use additional lights. The reason I say this is because the USB charging port I was using kept cutting out. It wasn’t until after this trip that I learned it was because the battery level was getting too low with running the additional lights and the USB socket at the same time as running the bike. This scooter also uses half wave rectification for the lights (I think) so you would struggle to swap out the main headlight with an LED one. I have since bought a Vision 110esp which has a good acg output and manages to run a pair of additional lights, a heated vest and heated grips also with very little voltage drop. It’s because the esp engines have acg’s to cope with start/stop charging so if you switch off the start/stop, you can use this additional power for accessories. Hope that helps Scoots

It was a Givi one off the shelf. For the wave Givi make a similar one but I would use that for a top box to secure your valuables and put your main weight in the dry bag on the seat. Everything that I used was indeed givi and easily available. I too am yet again considering another wave 110 as I traded this bike in for a vision for my girlfriend. That's getting the Malossi treatment over winter (83cc kit) ready for some short distance touring next spring. (Stay tuned!)The Innova or the wave will be your best friend but you'll need to think about fuel range and taking the luggage off every time you fill up. No biggy though

Cheers for the reply, most helpful. Yeah l was thinking about the filling up part when fully loaded l will think of something, all part of the fun . Enjoyed more of your vids and your driving narration,gear shifting and braking comments when you went over that their misty mountain up Scootyland. Thanks again" ride on"

Hidayat Hidayat thank you sir. It was indeed a nice motorcycle.

It had the optional touring filler adaptor fitted when I first purchased the bike. I think I’ve seen them on eBay from time to time 👍

@@scootyman2974 im not able to find any info on this adaptor...

Iain Waugh I keep an eye on the auto trader and google a few Honda dealers too. It's pot luck I guess but you only have to find a nice one as you well know

Slipping Jimmy I found that if you get the covers on early enough and fit them right over and pull the cords nice and tight then no damp patches. I've used them for both Cornwall and Scotland and if I'm honest I think they are better than hard luggage. If you accumulate souvenirs you have extra room with the expanding sides and if you're unlucky enough to have an "off" then they don't explode into pieces like some of the plastic ones might. Overall I found them excellent and I used Rok straps to secure them to the bike. Hope that helps

Cheers mate Planning on purchasing them soon

Yes you did have to. It wasn’t so bad to be honest and you could plan a natural break in the day for fuelling. I worked on my baggage system before I left so I knew it was fairly easy on and off . Thanks for your comments

@@scootyman2974 Good to know, thank you for the reply!

ssavva202 I wouldn’t have any doubts about the structural integrity of a Honda scooter. Underbone style frames are built like tanks. They endure the worst roads in the world fully loaded and more. Buy one and don’t stress about it is what I would say. You can always test ride the bike before you buy to check it hasn’t been involved in an accident.

@@scootyman2974 Thanks! I had a test drive today and I can say that is great ! I have already start the buying operations! Is the engine last long if it is well maintained and go under the specified speed and load?

Michael Velasco Hi Michael. I used a switching relay to switch between the dip and main light. These lights were a great help on a few occasions when I was still riding late in the evening. As for how to wire them, a very good website that I use quite a bit is 12volt planet. It’s an online electrical shop for everything 12volts but there is a good help section that will help you with the technical assembly of components and how they work. A little time on Google should get you the info you need. Hope that helps and best regards Scoots

@@scootyman2974Thanks so much. But were there no wirings changed/modified to supply that amount of power for the auxillary lights to not die after a an hour or two,? only electrical additions like relays and switches? And if there was, did it not affect the battery, like overcharging it?

Michael Velasco Hi Michael. That is a good question regarding load on the charging system. All I can say is at that time of using the lights all was fine however....... I also had a usb charging lead that sometimes wouldn’t work whilst charging. I have since found out that this usb charger cuts out if there is insufficient power to power the charger lead so I’m guessing that might answer your question and that I must have been very close to using maximum power. I guess you could do away with the standard 35 watt bulb via an inline switch which would save around 3 amps of load on the charging circuit and just use the LED lights. That’s assuming the headlight isn’t on a separate circuit as some bikes are. I now that the innova uses a 12 volt ac supply to power the headlight and I needed to use an ac-dc converter to supply a small dc current to switch the relay as ac made the switching relay ‘chatter’ on and off. If I can help anymore with this, feel free to send me a message and I will try and help you more with this. Best regards Scoots

Thanks a lot for your answers, I envy your travels. Some day maybe I'll do my videos when I do. And I really like your seat cushion the airhawk. But unfortunately we don't have any suppliers here locally. Thanks a lot again. Hope to see more of your videos.

Yes good question I am 8ft tall and 37 stone hope it alright for me with a Air Hawk