what an interesting camera angle; found that to be a great placement to put your in cabin video on the bottom left, makes it seem like your driving a go-cart. 9/10
9/10 for me too. maybe a hood cam (placed either inside the windshield or on top of the car) would be perfect with the angle/editing of the onboard footage.
as a owner of both those Elise and s2k I love both of my cars. I Howard's s2k is nice and he really knows how to drive the s2k. a s2k stock wont really do well against an Elise but its awesome on what just tires and a bit of aero can do with the s2k. now apply that to your Elise and watch what happens with that
Good driving. I'm impressed by how much quicker the Lotus is in the braking zone, and even on the straightaway. Would not have imagined that (straightline speed) to be the case!
It looks like there's a significant time lag (maybe a little over half a second?) in the accelerometer output. It also looks a little jumpy at times, so maybe the filter settings are a little off.
Where I live, you can get a ~2002 Elise and 2000-2003 S2000 for the same price, obviously daily driver so gonna be the S2000 but love seeing how they match up on a tight track like this. Thanks for adding the corner speeds, and lateral g's too!
Oh and the way you recover from a loose rear really shows you know more about what you're doing. Straightening the wheels and not just getting right off the gas, as well as not trying to immediately counter steer. Seen so many people lose it from the smallest slide by immediately trying to counter steer, then letting off the throttle completely and causing snap oversteer etc
Good fun! A Helical LSD may not help so much, I have an S2K and they also will spin up when the inner wheel lifts a little so clutch based LSD is best. I prefer the ease of a strong helical LSD and not worrying about clutch packs and friction modifiers though.. have a 15' Z28 torsen in my LS2k so bit different to most.
You mention that the S2K has the aero advantage a few times. I'm here to point out that the cars are probably about equal in the amount of downforce and drag that they make. The S2K has a lip, hardtop, and wing at low AOA. The Elise has a lip, hood vents, flat floor, duck tail, diffuser, and is known to make about 100lb of downforce at 100 mph. From the literature I have found; the CR spec S2K still makes a little lift, and that is with the lip, hardtop, and small GT wing. Buttonwillow is a pretty fast track, and HP matters a good deal here. Advantage S2K. The S2K also had 255 width tires. What did the Elise have? How much time did each driver have in their car, and how much exp. did each have at BW?
Colin Bowman a duck tail barley does anything. It just sort of says hi to the air as it does absolutely nothing. While a wing that’s over the roof of the car will be extremely more efficient
Colin Bowman then let’s not forget the s2000 comes with locking diff . Witch again is a huge advantage the car will feel more balanced everywhere with less understeer & allows u to actually put power down
Best thing you can do is imitate the s2000. Which you did. Awesome job. If you want to save some time, ask if there is a corner you can go flat out to any of the instructors. More info on the gps setup!
S2k has vtec, a Honda 6 speed manual transmission (they row like butter), aero/suspension work. It's hard for alot of cars to keep up with S2k's, especially at a power disadvantage.
These videos are great, making me want to venture out from the auto x I am use to. I think it would be interesting to hear a little conversation between you and the guys you run against after the runs.
Great video, when I was shopping for my s2000 one of the dealers had a lotus and I sat in it..it was so tight and I'm only 5"11. My leg was hitting the shifter too and I basically had to fall out of the car to get out haha
I'd say 6'5 is about the max to fit in an Elise, but only if you are slim. I'm about 5'9 and my Elise only comes up to my waist :D They are a lot smaller and lower than they appear on screen. If you have ever stood next to a Le Mans car they are about the same size as that.
I miss my 05 Elise. NOTHING could get out of a corner like that car. Where and what track is that? Unfortunately there are like 0 tracks like this in Florida
@@herberthans7015.. def not a rb26.. and an LS would be way too much weight for the Lotus.. K20-24 would be perfect.. On the track, NA is a lot more fun and usable having that huge rev-range.. My k20 Mr2 revs out to almost 10K and is a monster on the track.. 280whp NA.. built head, 12:1 compression. Power numbers and boost are not everything on the track. Comes down to a good setup, a usable power-band, the right tires/suspension, good aero, and good power-to weight.
@ I stole matt farahs delorean and when I hit like ~95 miles on the highway I entered a loophole and the car was beamed to the future. the future was even shittier then the present so I came back and put the car back where it was parked like nothing happened. anyway what I learned from this is you should put a V12 in your MR2.
Hi, what do you think of the seating position? It appears that you have no where for your right leg. It seems crammed against the shift knob and it looks uncomfortable .
What about the Torque to Weight ratio differences between the two cars? Sure the Honda might have slightly lower power to weight ratio, but it could overcome that with more torque to support its superior aerodynamic package.
I like S2000, miata, FRS/BRZ and this elise for buttonwillow. I like corvettes/mustangs for more open road courses. The C7 has been at the dealer for about a week now.. trying to get the transmission issues fixed under warranty.
Nice driving...at some part i felt u can improve by releasing the brake earlier and keep higher speed? Looks like u need wider tyre upgrade to keep up with s2000
Buy an Elise, any Elise before prices go up even more. I recently bought a 1zz model (2006 Elise S) and it's more than quick enough for road use, quicker than the S2000. The most reliable version too :)
You can supercharge the 2ZZ-GE to get around the 230 mark reliably, and Rotrex make a kit good for 300ish but I'd imagine that would destroy a bone stock motor.
so you put that 100kg+ into lotus so s2000 has a chance..try put a 70kg driver and watch s2000 from the rear mirror but half of the turns are full throttle..you need to push
This is what sportscars are supposed to be... Was looking at the supras, c8's, m2 comps.... Nah... getting a lotus elise or exige...I'm done gaining weight.
holy crap just realized this is Zent.. He's the guy that almost convinced me to get a c6... I believe his opinion on cars is the most accurate of any youtuber.. He drives them all...
@@ZentRose thanks dude! You're the only channel I actually look forward to content notifications from; keep the content coming! Especially about the Elise. You bought a C5 the same time I did, and then bought an Elise and C7 at the same time I've started looking into both, so I'm really living some dreams vicariously through you haha
Car looks a little loose. You're managing it well (except your little moment there) but I wonder if you're fighting the car a little which is slowing you down.
This is a high speed track suited for cars with higher top speeds. I bet the lotus would be right there with the s2000 on a more technical track like willow springs.
I feel like they were pretty evenly matched. I would change out my tires next to gain some time. I am currently running the cheapest 200tw tire (federal RSRR).
@@ZentRose take treadwear numbers with a grain of salt since it isn't really standardized between manufacturers. They are allowed to market/label them as being softer ( lower number ) then tested but not harder ( higher number ).
