Honest Trailers Commentary - Every Tim Burton Movie 

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That was a surprisingly serious (and interesting) psychological discussion

So Dan got all these movies and all of old doctor who? Jesus Christ, stop taking advantage of this man 😂

You guys should do Every Quentin Tarantino movie, for when Once upon a time in Hollywood comes out

I love that you guys always give props to the off-screen talent that makes Honest Trailers happen. Keep up the good work guys!

Every time there's a new honest trailer, I always get more excited for the commentaries!

This is THE best commentary you guys have done. It’s really cool and interesting to see you guys delve into the mind of Burton. He really is a great artist. Good job, keep it up guys.

Burton actually made a full treatment for a Nightmare Before Christmas while he was still working at Disney. They didn't even like the idea when he brought them the concept and treatment. It wasn't until he became successful as a director that they realized what they had. By that point he wasn't able to direct it due to previous obligations between Batman Returns and Ed Wood. He went in-depth in a few interviews, one of two, from the mid 90's, and a couple when he was making Big Fish.

This got waaaaayyyy deeper than I thought it would.

This actually made me appreciate and sympathize with Burton a lot more-- a director I've never liked and often disregarded. More of this kind of content please

2:13 They're worrying about the tease at the end when Dan already slipped what's coming next...

Some would call watching 18 Tim Burton movies madness. For Dan Murrell...it’s Schmoedown Research!

This commentary and analysis of Burton made me appreciate him and his movies in an entirely different way. Awesome conversation guys.

very intresting conversation about tim burton. i have always admired him for how he shows the outcast in his films. always feel a connection with that theme. it feels good that other people also understand that

Honest Trailer: 5:55 Honest Trailer Commentary: 40:29 This is going to be interesting, isn’t it?

Since we’re exactly one month away from Avengers: Endgame, can you please make an Honest Trailer for the 1998 Avengers movie?

Wish it was possible to get Tim Burton reaction to the honest trailer about him.

I hope Tim Burton listens to you discussing his work, because you're really appreciative and HONEST. You really make it work, comedy + insightful analysis.

I did my first film analytical essay on the direction in Big Fish and the use of colour, lighting, and artistic choices. It is such an emotionally beautiful movie! Love that my love for it is validated because not many in my program have actually seen it and it is well worth the watch

I will miss Lon Harris when Spencer J Gilbert comes back. Not that I don't miss Spencer. I have just grown accustomed to Lon as well.

Thank you Dan, appreciate the effort into watching all these movies. Great trailer guys

Dan, I agree with you on "Dark Shadows". I liked it.

love him or hate him, you gotta respect tim burton for just pouring himself into his movies. theres a lot of talented directors, directors who can separate themselves and make great movies, but tim burton throws all of his feelings into it, and shows you exactly who he is and what he's going through with every film. some of them are weird and creepy, you might even say most of them are weird and creepy, but so is burton, and he doesnt care if you know it.

Talking about Dark Shadows. If Michelle Pfeiffer is in a movie, I can forgive everything else. I'll never get tired of watching that white gold.

"Big Fish" is a true masterpiece that every human should watch... I applaud the love you showed for one of the most underrated movies ever...

Epic Voice Guy had some great reads in this trailer.

Wait the Mayor wasn't the villain of Nightmare. It was Oogie Boogie, big "fat" bag of bugs but equally loathed by society. Nightmare should actually be a subversion, since Jack holds all the patriarchal power as the "Pumpkin KING"

Joe picked up the host baton in Spencer's absence (congrats on the bebe!) like a champ. You're rocking it! And Lon is always fun when he's there, you could invite him more often! :D

Next week probably spiderverse? Love that movie!!;)

@22:45 I really appreciate how Dan is able to approach things. Great that he’s able to open up to changing his opinion about his preconceived bias and then talk about it on the show. Kudos!

Loved the conversation and break-down. Would definitely watch a series with a similar style.

Funny as usual... and a very profound work from Dan! Excellent conversation, guys! Thanks for the show!!

And now I am left to wonder how these tropes would've popped up in _Superman Lives._

Wonderful commentary, gentleman! It felt like a film school chat and I loved every minute of it.

Sleepy hollow is underrated, this made me want to watch that

I love Lon and Danielle on these commentaries. Please continue to have them on when Spencer comes back.

"Well I be dun seen about anything, when I see an elephant fly...." OMG, grew up with this movie. Loved them crows. Loved the ones from the Wiz too, cuz "you can't win..." 🕺🏿🎶🕺🏾

I remember that one time my English teacher in senior class showed us Sleepy Hollow and then got trouble for it because it was rated R. Man, Mr. Flowers was dope.

I'm pretty sure it's Into the Spiderverse, but I could be wrong. Have a great time at Wonder-Con!

I loved this Honest Trailer! My favorites are Sleepy Hollow, Edward Scissorhands, Batman and Batman Returns. I like them all though, except Big Fish because I haven't seen it yet. I admire Tim Burton, and his unique style and themes throughout his films are very interesting to watch. Loved the commentary, guys! Now I want Dan to write a book about Tim Burton!

I havent watched even one of the Tim Burton movies but I watched the honest trailer and is now watching the commentary, because I love Screenjunkies News.

This is one of the best commentaries you guys have done.

I love Screen Junkies and live for your honest trailer commentaries

I luuuuuuuve Tim Burton films so I unashamedly wallowed in this. Pure joy.

Well, I do count "Nightmare before Christmas" as his movie since he wrote it, not the movie script but the tail/long poem it is based on. It's a delightful read if you want to check it He also hired most of the people himself

I wish people talk about Big Eyes more, it’s such a good movie

watching this video makes me appreciate Big Fish so much more, the movie really takes a new meaning. thank u!

I love love love Tim Burton. All his movies, even the weak ones, strangely calm me. They're my feel-good movies. So glad to see you guys didn't just trash his work and actually emphathized with him. Thank you :)

I been waiting for a Tim Burton trailer since I found the Screen Junkie channel Thank you thank you thank you

This commentary makes me like Big Fish after rewatching it. Just thinking of Tim Burton building this imaginary relationship between an estranged father and his son who doesn’t understand him. Broke my heart.

5:39 "Hands, ha-hands, he likes hands, just hands." - Dan Murrell, 2019

Just watched Beetlejuice for the first time this week, so this is delightfully timely! Great commentary and trailer, as usual

I loved this trailer and this commentary so much. Burton is honestly one of my favourite directors working today even though his movies are a lot more hit and miss than they were in the 80s/90s. As an autistic guy I also can’t help but think he is himself on the spectrum, Edward Scissorhands is the perfect allegory of what it’s like to grow up autistic in a society that feels alienated by you (I wrote my Master’s dissertation on this 😂), and those interviews Dan talked about reveal details about his upbringing that share parallels with a lot of autistic people (including me). He’s probably one of the only proper auteur filmmakers working within the studio system and we should be grateful for that. As much as Planet of the Apes or Alice in Wonderland suck, Burton at his best (Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd etc.) will always trump any of his failures. Keep giving him money, Hollywood, that’s what I say.

Fantastic discussion guys! Definitely my favorite you’ve ever done

Write your book, Dan. We'll buy it!

Dan is a national treasure

This was a fantastic analysis of a director who I have pretty much written off. Great work.

so glad you guys didn't go the 'easy way', I was going into that honest trailer half expecting jokes about never-changing cast, hot topic, weird trees and so on but was pleasantly surprised that you actually did your homework and put much more insightful stuff in there. Tim's movies were always very appealing to me because he never takes on a project he has no personal connection to, all of his films are actually pretty personal and all his themes and influences are very transparent to someone who knows where to look

Write that book Dan, I would buy it.

I love that you guys love Garth Marenghi, even in Ireland and England it is not a well known show. Score (“based on melodies originally whistled by Garth Marenghi”) gets me every time.

This was great, but I gotta say, the bad guy in nightmare before Xmas was Oogie Boogie. The mayor WAS 2 faced, but he wasn't bad, and Oogie Boogie was the largest. You were working at the time, I don't hold it against ya. Amazing commentary. Thanks, Guys.

i would love a behind the scenes on just how those title cards get made. they’re always so spot on.

The mayor isn't the villain in Nightmare before Xmas...

Art is about obsessions... Tim Burton gets paid for his.

“Honest Trailers of ever movie Produced” perfect topic

Um, the mayor in The Nightmare Before Christmas isn't the villain. That would be Oogie Boogie. The observation that he is two-faced is a cool point that I hadn't thought of before, however.

Respect to Dan for watching all those movies.

The mayor was not the villain of Nightmare before Xmas. Although the villain was large it was the boogie man.

Listening to the arguments about Burton's common story elements, the villain segment jumped out at me. As someone who finds psychology fascinating, I wonder who in his life cemented this specific profile for him. A particularly mean teacher maybe? Anyway, a small note, Lon said the Mayor was the villain in Nightmare, but it is in fact Boogie Woogie. Still completely fits the type, and in fact its actually more apt, considering how loud and brazen Boogie is.

One of the more interesting commentaries, I don't even watch the trailers, I need more commentary on other movies

This one really brought home how much younger than I these guys are - it could have been a 7 second trailer: “Tim Burton; 1st Generation Goth”. Can’t wait for the David Lynch HT!!

My favourite movie of his is probably Sleepy Hollow. I think it’s the best use of his visual style at its most hard-edged. I think Johnny Depp is great as Crane, i like the whole creepy small town setting, the action is really good, the horse riding scenes are some of the best ever shot (the speed of Horseman!), the effects are great... the Headless Horseman is legitimately scary, especially when he has Christopher Walken for a head. Lots of great actors in the movie. I think it’s a great take on the classic tale. The mystery and Crane’s investigation unfolds really well. It’s an under-rated movie, IMO, and probably my favourite Halloween movie.

I agree with Dan Dark Shadows wasn't that bad.

Please do an "Every Quentin Tarantino Movie" before July 26 release of his new movie~

Dark Shadows is a guilty pleasure for me. It seems a little more self aware of it's own ridiculousness than most recent Burton movies. Also I thought Big Eyes had a lot of interesting moments. But favorite Burton movies? 1) Batman 2) Edward Scissorhands 3) Batman Returns 4) Beetlejuice 5) Ed Wood (haven't seen it in years or it might be higher on the list)

I like Dark Shadows too

I must be really misremembering Nightmare Before Christmas, because I don't remember anything at all showing that the mayor was the villain

Great work , Robert .

I really like Lon's point about how Burton probably just wants to work and getting any kind of budget means taking on a less-than awesome project. It reminds me of a key line in Bull Durham, where Susan Sarandon talks about the romance and beauty and mysticism in baseball, but it's also a job. Well, filmmaking is also a job. Sometimes it isn't about the art. Sometimes it's just about the process and that isn't always inspiring. Also, fully agreed that Big Fish is very moving, especially the ending. Best Burton: I love Batman, but Ed Wood is his "best" movie.

Poor Dan literally said what next week's is. Excited for it 😁 and this one was awesome!

Big Fish is definitely my favorite Tim Burton film, and probably just one of my favorite overall films. I think it has so far really marked the apex of Burton's career as I feel it's been pretty downhill from there. The Corpse Bride was fine, Sweeney Todd was fine. But just about everything else hasn't been great. I can understand the argument that studios only wanting to give him the money to make movies based on existing properties is part of it. It's just like studios capitalizing on Burton's style, and it really shows. From what I've heard, Planet of the Apes being the trash pile it was was largely due to bureaucracy as well. They movie we got was not the one they wanted to make.

We love you Dan. Thank you for your work - and pain

Pls, anybody, tell Tim Burton about Blumhouse They will just kill it!! Amazing combo

1:40 fun fact, when I was in Undegrad, we did an arrangement of Pink Elephants for Jazz Orchestra!

Notice how often he'll cast a brunette actress, then dye her hair blonde? Always got creeped by that in particular for some reason.

I like this one. This one was a wonderful celebration of Tim Burton's. The good movies are really good, I'm willing to forgive, or more accurate, disregard and not see the bad ones.

I actually really like Sweeney Todd and think it still holds up

This is totally a Tim Burton masterclass!

They should go meta and do a honest trailer of Screen Junkies. Where they go through the different people they have and the things the audience notice that each one of them does a lot. I think it would be cute and funny since they all have such different personalities and each have developed a sort of following.

Sorry, your comment on the Mayor being the bad guy in Nightmare is wrong. The Mayor was just naive and brainless. Oogie Boogie was the bad guy.

while I can't buy into Lon's and Joe's appreciation overall for Mars Attack as a whole movie, probably my favorite moment is during the Tom Jones concert, the lights go off and come back on, and every band member has been replaced an alien. What makes it perfect is for the first couple seconds, each of the aliens seem to genuinely be into performing and playing their instruments, then do the frozen still and look around when they're caught.

This may be more of a Cinefix thing, but I'd LOVE a video series of Dan Murrell going through a director's filmography and doing a deep, critical/psychological dive into their patterns, trends, and preferences. That'd be fascinating

I love you all and everything you've ever done. Sweeney Todd is my favorite movie ever so I wish you had spoken more about it but I'm sorry. Wtf Lon. THE MAYOR IS NOT THE VILLIAN OF NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS!!!

Awesome show! Loved that H.Trailer too :') |m/

They tried to “tease” next weeks not realizing Dan already mentioned it in the beginning.....Spider-Man Into the Spider Verse.

HEY! The Mayor isn't the villain of Nightmare Before Christmas, he's completely loyal to Jack the entire movie. Ooogie Boogie is the bad guy, the Mayor is just a nice guy with bipolar disorder. How DARE you besmirch the Mayor's good name, Lon?!?!?

I have a lot of nostalgia for Mars Attacks, as when I was about 3 years old I kept asking my mom to rent it and thought it was hilarious despite how much it freaked my brother out. Plus that cast...

This is my ranking of the Tim Burton movies. I haven't seen Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children, Big Eyes, Pee-wee's Big Adventure, and Frankenweenie. 1. Big Fish 2. Batman 3. Beetlejuice 4. Ed Wood 5. Edward Scissorhands 6. Corpse Bride 7. Batman Return 8. Sleepy Hollow 9. Mars Attacks! 10. Sweeny Todd 11. Planet of the Apes 12. Alice in Wonderland 13. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 14. Dark Shadows

Lmao they already said what the trailer for next week was earlier in the video. And I gotta say...I’m pumped

My guess is the big shift in Tim Burton's career was the Superman Lives production. From his interviews in the documentary on that, it really sounds like that broke him and then his next film, Sleepy Hollow, is the first Burton movie that, despite its impressive qualities, feels like it's on autopilot. He's still got to do some more personal films with his cartoons (Corpse Bride and Frankenweenie) and his attempts at Oscar-bait (Big Fish, Sweeney Todd, Big Eyes) since then, but he's certainly not put the same energy into his big budget films that he did on the Nic Cage Superman.