Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Logitech Yoke, CH Yoke, and Logitech Extreme 3D Joystick Review and Comparison 

Very nicely done. Love the clarity and to the point style. Not a dull moment. For some reason I did not catch the price of the Honeycomb system, but was able to look it up on your website. Again, thank you for a very informative and enjoyable to watch review.

This is the best video that I have seen on yoke comparisons. Good work!

Perfect video, thanks! I was originally looking at the Logitech G Pro but seen a comment saying it didn't have the full range of motion but the Honeycomb did, and this video cleared that up very well for me. Thanks for keeping me from wasting money on Logitech G Pro and THEN turning around for a Honeycomb later on. Much appreciated, thanks are beyond words. Thanks, again.

I am new to sim and was looking for yoke, you did a great job explaining. Thank you, subscribed!

I’ve had my Saitek yoke for years now and I’m finally ready to upgrade to the Honeycomb. I need that 90 degree motion!! Great video

Appreciate the way you presented. Very helpful in understanding.

I just gota honeycome yesterday. Will try it when I have sim rig setup somday!

You did very good on your comparisons. thank you very much..

Very nice review, thank you!

I have honeycomb yoke for a month now and it is absolutely a winner! It has the same feeling as C172 that I fly in my flight school. I had Saitek Yoke before and the difference between Honeycomb Yoke and Saitek Yoke is huge!

Good review for any new sim pilots, I would add that I have both the joystick and the CH Yoke. The joystick is a solid performer and the twist grip allows you to yaw if you dont have pedals. The CH Yoke is cheaply made and doesn't feel right if you want to fly the 'big jets'. It's metal holding screws will easily strip the plastic they go in to and then it's hard to get it even remotely stable.

Good info, I might add that trying to land a plane with the two cheaper yokes is really hard as the shaft sticks and then moves. This makes your plane jump up and down. I even tried the modification for the Logitech yoke where they take the springs out and use rubber bands. Still I had to bite the bullet and buy the honeycomb. More bucks but worth it.

Very informative All the best Shaun of NYC 🗽🗽

Thanks for the info, very helpful

GOOD PRESENTATION, THANK YOU

👍🏼 very helpful informations, thanks! 😎

Thanks! just what I needed :)

Thanks man, awesome it really helped me out. :D

Great video! I'm a subscriber. Thank you!

Thank you for clarifying the options.

Great video. I just bought the Honeycomb and am very satisfied with it, but I can't find any meaningful documentation on it to program it, so I am just kind of bumbling along. I am really glad I checked around and bought this one as my first and it is very different from the joystick. It actually seems to "drive" more like a car, and a bit closer to the way you'd imagine a plane would fly before the joystick. But it may take some getting used to after years of joystick flying. Again, great video and now all we need is a deck of cards. Oh, and you forgot the keyboard (uck). Cheers.

I have bought and used all three yokes, and I can agree that the honeycomb is probable the best.

Thank you extremely informative and changed my buying decision

Thank you! Wonderfull briefing. I am planing to setup my flight simulator and I was wondering which one is the best.

Hah, cool to see the CH Yoke still available. I had it during the FS2004 days, doing some long haul flights on the VATSIM network nearly 20 years ago... Back to flight simming in 2023.

excellent video. Have learned a lot.

Good video! I have a CH Products Eclipse and am considering upgrading. I agree with your assessment of the throttle controls on the top. For this reason I use a separate throttle for a more realistic simulator feel. The "trim wheel" on the left is NOT for trim, actually. It is a common misconception. That wheel determines how loose or tight the X and Y axes of the yoke will be. The Eclipse has its own trim wheel but I prefer a dedicate sim trim wheel instead.

Awesome video I am now well informed and ready to purchase

thank you man! I will buy a flight stick soon. Your vid just pushed me enough :-)

Very helpful. Thanks

Thanks for the video

Great review. Could you please do one for rudder pedals???

Glad I found this video before I plunge into FS 2020 am thinking within the next 6 months finally am satasfied that FS is better

I've had my CH Yoke and pedals for over 15 years now (wasn't entry level back then, was the only yoke you could get). It's still going strong, but for MSFS 2020 I had to assign all the switches and axis myself. Looking to get the Honeycomb.

Hello, great video! I am new to flight sim well I am an old gamer but I always found the flight sim games very hard to learn but now with FS 2020 it looks that Ms is adding a lot more aid for people like me. The question I have is If I just buy the Honeycomb Yoke will I need the other items rudder, throttle etc to play the game or can I purchase at a later date if I enjoy the experience. Thanks

I just ordered the Honeycomb as it's featured-packed for the price. I really like the two different desk mounting systems and all of those useful switches. The next step up would be a Yoko Plus but man, over $1000 for a yoke is a bit much right now. For a stick I'll go with something by Virpil. Great review, thanks!

I'm gonna get the Logitech yoke quite soon, but one thing I'm wondering is what to use for my rudder. I've used a Hotas X and that has a pretty good ruddercontrol on its throttle. I would get pedals as the obvious answer to this if it wasn't for my kneeinjury so even if I was to build a complete simulator I couldn't use pedals. Any ideas of what I should use for rudders?

Hi thanks, great review. I just ordered the Honeycomb Yoke, I already have the Logiteck stick. For now I do not have a Throttle Quadrant. Can I use both the Yoke and the stick? The stick has the throttle and I would use some of its other buttons as well.

How do you feel about the Turtle Beach Velocity One VS the Honeycomb? I know some folks mentioned that the turtle beach sticks a little bit, but that it gets better once it's broken in. I'm leaning toward the TB but the honeycomb also seems incredibly nice.

There are some screws on the top of the honeycomb similar to the ones on the logitech. Are they also for mounting the Logitech flight panels?

For those using a CH Yoke or thinking about buying one the springs for the elevator travel are ridiculously stiff so yep the shaft want's to bind and hang on the in/out travel. Here's what to do but remember opening the yoke case will void the warranty on a new yoke, make sure all functions and buttons are working before opening. Open it up and take those return springs off. Go to HD or Lowe's and look for ones with a similar length but much lighter in spring tension. They're pretty inexpensive so you could buy 2/3 pairs and test them all. There are vids on YT using rubber bands which work but they will dry out and break. Next...get some white lithium grease at an automotive supply store or maybe the big box store. Forget about lubing this yoke up with WD40, it won't work. With the case still open lube up the shaft and the "slide" that the yoke uses. I think that slide is really what makes the shaft drag and hang. Also lube it up at the front and back openings that support the shaft. Be generous with the stuff, it won't hurt it. When done and put back together it will be noticeably easier to use and have smooth movements--the lighter springs make a hell of a difference. I bought a new CH Flight Sim yoke about five years ago and I now need to take it apart, clean it up and do a re-lube.

Great video! Is there any software that will allow me to simulate a Cherokee 235?

CH yoke is very solid. Mine has is still going strong after 9 years. After a little use, yoke returns to pitch center just fine. Throttle levers have never been an issue getting in the way. I also highly recommend CH rudder pedals. No issues with them after 9 years. Both yoke and pedals have a really good feel; Yoke force required responds very well to level of trim applied. I prefer to click on 3D cockpit switches so no need for a bunch of extra rocker switches external to the sim.

Hi, have a question concerning the three yokes, how much dead travel do they have. I have a Saitek yoke and it has about a 1/4 inch travel on the pitch and roll making landing extremely interesting.

An important note about the Logitech yoke: there is a 5-degree dead zone on the roll axis on each side and a smaller but notable, unsymmetrical dead zone on the pitch axis. This is part of the firmware in the yoke itself; YOU CAN NOT CALIBRATE IT AWAY. So it looks like only 90 degrees of motion, but you're actually getting only 80 degrees with a giant 10-degree area in the middle where nothing happens! I am in contact with their Saitek team, and they tell me this is a feature, not a bug. I replied that this is unacceptable and am waiting for their reply. I'll probably be returning my yoke system and a switch panel I purchased and getting Honeycomb hardware.

How are you attaching the monitor showing the instruments? Does Gleim provide a mount attachment for that?

Thank you for the detail review. Was curious just what they're all compatible with computer wise. Mine is an older Windows 7. Also no mention of the setup with the three terrain scenes and the screen with the gauges. What is it if I have to purchase a new computer and What systems work with that? I've been flying for a few decades. Have my experimental low wing for high-speed cross-country travel. Also have a experimental extreme stol bush plane for Scenic flights and camping. But I would like to finally invest in a simulator to practice recovery skills or stay proficient when weather does not permit.

Can you pls. suggest the beast seating or complete setup for a flight simulators?

Does the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke has some kind of "dead zone" like other reviewers said, and if so, with MS Flight Simulator 2020, is there any remedy for that to make it truly realistic? Thanks!

Hi it´s a nice Video. wich angle have your 3 Monitor´s . 22,5 degree´s ??? it look like my x-plane 11 Simulator. I use am 21:9 Monitor for the instroments it´s perfekt and works great. when i fly with analog Instroments, then i put the comunikations on the right. i´m stay tuned. Good job

Hahaaaaa you do the same thing I do... I see those little labels on the buttons. I have a label maker, it's great :-) Though I had the T16000M stick... I've upgraded to the honeycomb yoke, not enough buttons to need to label.

Hi Awesome vid . what sir\e screen are you using as am trying to put everything onto one instead of two touch screens

Great Review, Some reviews mention a dead zone with the Honeycomb Alpha, Have you any feedback/experience of whether this is still an issue?

Does the Honeycomb have USB plug ins for optional items? Can i plug in my logitech foot rudders into it, or the logitech throttle?

If i wanted to get the honeycomb yoke, but also get the logitech instruments, will they work together, and if so is there a way to mount the instruments to the yoke? or do you a recommendation for how mount those instruments to a desk without buying their expensive panel?

Hi! I have the CH Yoke and just bought the Saitek Quadrant. How Iconnect them to work togheter? Thanks

The Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant and Yoke I would love to have I am disabled and set at home a lot. I picked up a Extreme 3D pro at goodwill and like you I have trouble with it, I will keep trying I am praying that I could get the Honeycomb But as we speak (Type) I just can't afford it. Pray that I can get one in the days to come..

Can you mount the honeycomb yoke like a racing wheel? I really don't want to use that mount with the clamps on my simlabs gt evo racing rig.

what do you think of getting the logitech setup then to upgrade to the honeycomb

Great video. Can you do a similar one on rudder pedals?

What exact set up do you have in terms of front monitor and three in the forefront?

Do they make throttle controls with push/pull functionality like Cessna aircraft I'd likely take my training in? Hoping to get as close as I can to help get familiar with the controls.

Hi Paul. Great video. Is the honeycomb and Logitech systems plug and play, or do you need 3rd party drivers? 5 yrs ago I bought several Logitech systems but ran into all kinds of driver problems and finally gave up and sold them all. I plan on getting the MS flight sim 2020 soon but the memory of my experience holds me back. Any info would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!!!

Great overview! :)

Hi, is this Logitech metal shaft smooth or somewhat rough to the touch?

I'm bummed you didn't mention the price of the honeycomb (unless I missed it). It is pricier than the others. I just purchased (waiting for delivery) the Logitech Pro. But i would spend the extra for the Honeycomb (and will do so when I'm done actually building my simulator - literally converting a closet into a flight sim). But people should know that Honeycomb is only $250. Sounds like a lot, but when you look at what you get compared with others, it's absolutely worth it.

Hi, forgot, can you tell me how to set up a duel throttle quadrant? I use FS 2020 and fly the Beech Baron 58 and would like to set up duel quadrant for this aircraft. Any help would be greatly appreciated with this.

In the Logitech profiler you can adjust the movement ratio to make it slower or quicker with how much input is applied as well as adjust the dead zone. When I was driving american truck simulator I would tap the wheel and the truck would take what felt like a 90 degree turn so I had to go down on it. My question is.... Even though I can adjust the ratio of input when turning... Is it gonna make a difference in realism if I cant make the yok itself go 90 degrees? I assume that if your really flying a plane and you crack the yok 90. Your gonna be down for one hell of a ride at that point? Like aerobatic tricks or the point of a crash landing? Basically what I am trying to ask is.. Do you think I will get a decent sim experience if I can adjust the programming to suit my needs of input on the Logi yok?

50th Like! I loved the video. I am definitely going to buy the Yoke! (The one on the right)

how or the G1000's displayed in the centre monitor?

I have a budget of $500 for all the peripherals, my dad always wanted to learn how to fly, I think this is a good starting point for him plus the new MFS2020 is coming out. Any suggestions which peripherals I should get, I don't want my dad to be using the mouse or keyboard so try to get all the switches/buttons on the peripherals. if you think the budget is a little bit short, feel free to suggest the best thing. I will be getting the honeycomb alpha yoke and switch panel, but I also need pedals and other peripherals so suggest that

Hi Paul I got a Logitech Yoke and throttles that comes in the packeds and no my Yoke want stay in the senter when I fly the X Plane 11 so I can not letgo of the Yoke .I do not know what is wrong when I fly VOR

What are you using to get the flight instruments and displays on that separate screen?

I want to know how you have 3 monitors and a fourth showing just the plane controls.....do a video on that. 🤔

I see you compared the CH Flight Sim yoke - but how does the CH Eclipse yoke compare?

Hi, where can I get the Furniture you're using to set the Yoke, Throttle Quadarant especially if I want to have VR Flight Simulator Set Up, can you provide me with links, I would really appreciate it 🙂

Can you use the Logitech rudder pedals with the honeycomb yoke as well as the Logitech throttles?

The Honeycomb alpha looks like it also has holes on the top. Are those setup to accept the Logitech additional controls just like the Logitech one?

"with the mouse, you pull back to go up, push forward to go down..."

What is the max opening of the mounting clamps? Thanks.

5 years ago I was so unhappy with the center detents in the Saitek yoke I made my own. I made aileron travel the full 90 degrees in either direction with no center detent. I mounted the main shaft on a pillow block bearing, then mounted that on a carrier mounted to a set of linear bearings on rails for pitch control. I used separate springs for roll and pitch (Other very expensive yokes at the time used one spring for both roll and pitch, making pitch forces inconsistent in one axis if the other was deflected. THAT was annoying). But at least it got rid of that @#$%^!! center detent in the Saitek. Then for the throttle quadrant I made linear motion controls to mimic my 172RG as I didn't like the rotary (90 degree) levers that the Saitek had. Does the Honeycomb system use one spring for pith/roll forces, or are there two springs? Sounds like I was just too early for the Honeycomb. My system is working fine, but if I ever need another it's good to see the Honeycomb is available now! Best of luck, everyone! Happy flying!

What’s the monitor stand you’re using for the triple setup?

Is it possible to attach a "Logitech Quadrant Throttle" to the Honeycomb Yoke? I have the Logitech Control Yoke System along with the throttle quadrant since December 2021.The Logitech Yoke does NOT work properly because of the many "dead zones" I am encountering. Therefore, I am prepared to invest in the Honeycomb Yoke and I am wondering whether I'm able to use the Logitech Throttle quadrant with it. Thanks. Glen.

Thx Paul re the Thrustmaster yoke would you say it fine for GA aircraft?

Can you use the Logitech throttle quadrant with the Honeycomb Alpha yoke?

I guess the Honeycomb is next... I've had the CH Yoke and the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke & Switch Panel in the past. Didnt like the CH yoke due to the all plastic construction and the somewhat jerky movement. I also didn't like the fact that the shaft extended out the back beyond the housing. I ended up modding it by removing the centering springs and using silicone lube spray on the shift. The Saitek yoke had a much smoother motion and the mount was more robust. The addon switch panels, throttle quads and mounting options are a plus. Unfortunately the starter knob on the switch panel is not spring loaded either. It also had this quirk where FSX wouldnt pick it up until one of the switches was toggled. I got rid of them them a while back but I always kept my trusty Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X

I can't believe no one so far has appreciated this man's accomplishment in matching his trousers and footwear so magnificently to the carpet, walls, and trim in the background. He isn't just part of the scene. He _is_ the scene.

Can you turn off the Honeycombs LED lights? I want my setup to be blue/black so I dont want any red colors in it. Thanks.

The forward/aft travel of the CH yoke is sticky and totally spoils the experience. I have the Saitek yoke but wasn't aware of the 45 degree / double sensitivity aspect - good catch! Question: Are the screws on top of the Honeycomb placed to be compatible with Saitek/Logitek components..? (Looks like it, but I'd like to confirm).

suggestions should i get saitek yoke or T16000 joystick ( for a starter)

That honeycomb sure is sweet, a cool $550 on amazon. The logitech stick would be a nice starter for me, wish I could find it close to the $50. Sells on Amazon for closer to $100. Might have to do find it the old fashion way and check the stores.

Do the logitech throttle quadrant is compatible with the Honeycomb yoke?

Is it possible to use a joystick and the yoke becuse i have the saitek one and the throttle but can i use the joystick aswell connected so i dont need to buy a throttle aswell

I've had a CH yoke for 21 years. Dusted it off and tries it out. It's absolutely PERFECT ! I'm super happy. Was going to buy the thrustmaster boeing yoke. But forget that ! Sticking with my trusty CH yoke. U will buy 2 Logitech throttles though. Forget the honeycomb throttles. They break. Read about it in forums. And Reddit.

I wanted the honeycomb yoke but can the Logitech pedals and thruster unit work with it?

How about programing it for other computer simulations

I have owned the CH yoke for several years. The concave shaped grabbers which are supposed to keep the yoke securely attached to the desk are poorly designed i.m.o...I had to attach a length of half round dowel to the underside of my desk... It does the job of keeping the Yoke secured to the desk!

Is your center screen a touchscreen monitor? I just completed a new PC build for MSFS2020 and considered a smaller touch screen for "touching buttons" in the cockpit but was not sure if it will work like i want it to. My graphics card will support 4 monitors (and i have 3). Right now i was waiting to see if the game will support. Thanks!

You forgot to mention the price on the honeycomb alpha yoke.But other than that the video was great.Thanks for the info.

I have just purchased the Honeycomb yoke. I was using a Thrustmaster joystick. What do you use as the throttle control? Thanks for any help.