they should've seen the violent nature of these rioters when they tied up 2 mainland Chinese at the airport for 3 hours and started beating them. that was almost 3 months ago.
some western media is actually domb and always spread fakr news. and the biggest problem is that some people from hong kong are being really errogant and not accepting the truth.
Sicao Wang HK is not the HK twenty year ago, China is not the China we have known, the world changes every day. Unfortunately HKers like to enjoy the well big sky.
The old people who have benefited from decades of prosperity who want a calm life up until the end of their life, against the young who have an uncertain future. The moral of this: be kind now to your future self and community.
@@ahcheungape the old people did not give the young people a future. The old people only cared about their short term gain. They didn’t want to upset the status quo too much. They did not want to rock the boat. However, this has left this generation with no future. The new generation has nothing to loose. If they old generation gets their way the new generation won’t be able to get a job interview. With no where to go, the new generation will fight for their future till the end. Currently the whole situation does not look that it will end peacefully, which is very sad and unfortunate.
“Themselves”? Do you have an idea that these people are Hong King’s future? Basically what they are doing is fighting for Hong King’s future instead of the old people who don’t care
I'm an American doing business in Shenzhen, and cross borders often into HK. Call me rare, hate me, call me a tratior, call me whatever you want, but after I seen that man catch fire, and after experiencing China, I am pro China. China has done a lot of things right, and the western media never highlights this. These people, goverment, and country has always treated me right. I want HK police to militarize their forces, adopt zero tolerance for the protestors by any means necessary, and free the city from them. Enough is enough. To Beijing, the leaders of China, the country that has the least amount of violence of any country in the world... Beijing and your leaders, do what must be done and end this... I think the world will understand and support you. I know I will.
The protesters/rioters are being used by America & by ccp. The cia(rumours in youtube) is paying them to ferment trouble for the ccp - used by cia. The ccp is refusing to take action so that these rioters/protesters can be a lesson to hk people. How? Read on. *A good China political insight to share:* _Why is China not doing anything to stop the riots in HK?_ Yang Wang Answered Nov 15, 2019 In the year of 1959, there was armed insurgency in Tibet, and Mao commented on this matter as “For Tibet situation, the more chaos, the better, the army can get trained, the normal people can get educated, more importantly provides enough reasons for the future counter insurgency and reform.” Now it is exactly the same situation in HK. The more chaos in HK caused by these rioters, the more normal people in HK will get educated that the “peaceful” protesters are actually stupid “terrorists”. When the city gets smashed (no traffic, no food, no jobs), the normal people will get educated that 'peace and bread' is the real “universal value”, rather than “democracy and freedom”. When the banks leave HK, university professors and scholars leave HK, tourists leave HK, mainlanders leave HK, the normal people will get educated that it was the hard working people, the tolerant environment, and the strong bonding to mainland China that supported HK’s prosperity. When the city is left in ruins, but the leaders of the riots are in Yale, in White House, in BBC giving speech, the normal people in HK will get educated that they were so fooled by those & their dirty secrets. When, after the riots, HK is no longer a shining star but a disgusting corner filled with bias and criminals, the whole of China will get educated “one country, two system” is not working, it’s not that our system is not working, but their system is not working. It is a great text book. In fact, it is a live example to show to all China, what would it be like if China is not under the leadership of the CCP. By that time, the people in HK will be holding flowers expecting to be a REAL part of China.
_"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."_
If you look back channel 4 has always been balanced in reporting. Channel 4 is probably the most trustworthy media in the UK, shame they are one of the smallest. Not just HK issue, when they report on Brexit, general election and Granfield fire, they always report the truth and being critical.
@@chopper1239 it's just an inference from the move taken by the PLA. Without any clear message released by the PLA , we should not be making assumptions of their plans to follow up as it may stir up unnecessary unrest. However, I do agree that what they did is a strong reminder to all about their presence in HK.
@@maxsquared In UK, they represent more labour leaning channel, i.e. working class, minorities and the likes. Yet their reporting of other countries where Brit interests are concerned is usually British interests first with British bias. Don't expect them to be fair to China whom they deem as a threat to their Anglo dominance of the world.
It stamp out from the large inequality standard of living. While I acknowledge the pride, I comdemn the violence. those rioters need to be punish to the extend of law
Negotiate? We have tried protesting peacefully with 2 million people and the government just ignored us. You think that they’re going to listen to our negotiations? They don’t care!
BBC : Totalitarian government Me: Now protesters have the right to protest and they do it. Before in the colonial era protests are strictly forbidden ! So which government was totalitarian ? Tell me please !
1.During the (late) colonial era, they don’t really need to protest cuz their lives were good 2. They didn’t have the right to protest all these protests were not allowed but they did it anyway
The reporter at the end said . The PLA was sending a message that they will use guns and bullets to clear the streets next time . Can he back up what he said ? Did the PLA actually told C4 that was their implied message or was that something he made up to suggest solider clearing up outside their barracks was an imminent danger . I suggest Western media should be more responsible in reporting in HK and just report the facts after all they are allowed to roam freely amongst the protesters and police their rights and privileges protected by the government of HK .
@@hxi7141 basic freedoms like rule of law, freedom of assembly, due process, freedom from state harrassment are kind of important. Sure things still had a long way to go but complete despotism is hardly an alternative.
@@lpplau no, obviously I don't think the terror tactics deployed by the HKPF achieve anything other than suffering and the provocation of an international crisis.
No use clean up the mess. All public should unite n help catch the rioter n unmask them n take photo of them. This will ease up police to identify n arrest them
Alvin Chua : Well it depends on what you’re thinking “started” and when. For me the handover is the starting point as China seems to have NO intention of honouring the joint declaration. HK protests now are not about the extradition bill. Look at the bigger picture. Sorry about that woman 👩, and sorry for others who have died or been murdered during these weeks 😢
Cause westerners on RU-vid actually agree with them but once westerners go there and actually look at what's happening they know the rioters are ruining hong kong
A Dog offered to help a Wolf get regular feed from his Master. The Wolf listened but saw a bald spot on Dog’s neck where the collar sat. Goodbye said Wolf. Better starve free than be a fat slave.
Since when “freedom and Democracy” is exclusive from “peace and prosperity”? Could you please name one state which is free and democratic but without peace and prosperity?
The total cost of rebuilding HK, probably in billions, should be borne by the convicted rioters and their future generators until fully paid off. Why should the other law abiding tax payers foot the bill???
1. They ARE the HK ppl 2. We are HKers we don’t just give up after we have done so much and worked so hard on this 3. If we give up our beliefs and ideologies to the police and the government we’re pussies
You people who loves HK peaceful are much more in numbers, you must joint together and support the Hk police, take down anyone who wants to destroy HK, arrest him and send to the police. Especially the BMR, stop them, help the police arrest them.
Hong Kong residents really should take back their own neighborhoods.. I have to applaud their self- control not to get into an all-out brawl 🤛👏👏👏 getting my blood boiled just watching them make me glad I’m not in HK🥵😡 how ya-all take this and let it ruin your day everyday 🙉🙉 it’s almost like they are asking to get beat up standing there in their stupid masks and you wanna rough them up so badly you can’t stand it 😬😬😬
UNITED PUBLIC is the most powerful weapon to cool down protest in HK. UNITED PUBLIC can be more effective to overcome the situation facing HK....They clear out the road blockage in very short time.... TQ so much uncle & auntie....
Please keep it up hk residents, thou it's rather late but as long as you people gather up and fight back there will be hope. And please inform all reporters especially those western media regarding the truth of what is actually going on in hk. The western public is misleaded to assume most people in hk wanted and supported the protest.
Most people do actually support the idea of the protest (mb not the violence) and we can see that from the 區議員選舉 (translate if you want to cuz I don’t know what it is in English lol)
This in poor journalism, lacking feel and insight into the subject matter. Perhaps the reporter didn't notice the presence of the PLA that signaled these residents (not exactly 2M) to come out.
They say there is no freedom, yet every year there is a great Gay Pride suported by the community...this is obviously at odds with the protesters saying we have no freedom.
@@TheGaranceable so you basing your destruction and violence on what might happen? Ok for me to attack you, as you may attack me one day. See the argument doesn't really work.
Yea, so much for your freedom of speech. Yet you silence and attack those who speak against you so muxh that you light a defenseless old man on fire and laugh and clap about it. Freedom of speech means everyone can think and say what they want yet you are forcing your views on others and demand everyone thinks like you or die. You are no different from the very values you set out to fight againts. You arent "peaceful" protesters anymore. You guys are plan terrorist no different from isis.
Ah yes, freedom of speech by lighting an old man on fire and putting him in intensive care for using his own freedom of speech. Quite Ironic don't you think?
In the Near Future It is the year 2016 countless kids in Hong Kong begin a large stockpile of MDMA for the coming years to come. in the year 2019 we now see that aftermath........
Ming Pao Digest rap: - Tuesday, November 19, 19, Hong Kong dusk to: It is the dusk of Hong Kong that the system is corrupt and the brain drain is lost. (Wen: Yin Yingxian - University... Assistant Lecturer) More than 5 months later, Hong Kong has been caught in a storm that has not been seen in years. Hong Kong's economy officially declined - before the protests broke out: Since the start of the massive protests, the economy has deteriorated sharply, with retail, catering, hotels and tourism, and the education industry has been hit hardest by the deadly... So far, other sectors, such as professional services and finance, have been relatively resilient. The overall unemployment rate remains low, but is expected to worsen gradually. Since the start of the protests, property prices have not fallen much because of tight housing supply and low interest rates.... Senior officials ( 3 divisions 13 directors ) are helpless - social unrest has persisted for many months, without any abating. Uncertainty and a collapse in confidence could reduce business investment and consumption, raising the risk of a long-term full-blown recession. The Lin Zheng government has not taken effective measures to calm the situation. Senior officials often blame structural problems for causing unrest, such as the Government's statement that it wants to "respond to public grievances, including the disparity between the rich and the poor". Officials do not recognize is a political issue, structural problems, including high property prices and social mobility, such as the responsibility of the Government, the problem has not been solved for many years, officials should have stepped down to be held accountable, but now blame structural problems, shirk responsibility, away from the sun.... The Government has a woman , Lin Zheng , who has said that she has asked the Central People's Government to resign , but the public has accepted her resignation , and the public has accepted her resignation , and that Hong Kong's economy is not dead enough , and demands " speculation " , and the result is really speculation . . . "One country, two systems" two-sided edge - the domestic corrupt officials immigrating to Hong Kong as adulterous section, manipulation of Hong Kong government officials, engaged in corruption and fraud activities, speculation of buildingland land, in various ways to bribe officials, the Chinese Federation more use of black police and gangs to create 7.21 Yuan Long subway station terrorist attack and 8.31 Prince Station black police killed incident, shocked the international community, The United States refers to China as a rogue regime! One country, two systems have their name in existence! The city's success as an international hub depends to a large extent on the principle of "one country, two systems"... The "Anti-Masking Act" was recently established in the form of the Emergency Law (but not applicable to the Police Force - anti-reflection Hong Kong administrative dark dictatorship side) . . . Many people in Hong Kong just want to return to work on time and don't expect to be released on time. As we all know, Hong Kong is not a place to live and work, and talents from all over the world come to Hong Kong to earn money and leave when they are finished. As long as the grass roots die, the middle class survives, and the money continues to grow, this social consensus, despite the challenges of left-wing and post-materialism, has remained unchanged for many years... The system is corrupt, the black police are on the road, the infrastructure corruption and overspending, the collusion between officials and businessmen, the official bureaucrats, the use of human relatives, the policy of the Fulan Fulands tomorrow, and the latest Hong Kong Polytechnic University 64 incident, the police shooting at students indiscriminately unarmed, and even the brain drain. It is the dusk of Hong Kong to take in 150 new poor immigrants from the Mainland. 明報文摘rap:-19年11月19日星期二 香港的黃昏到..制度敗壞、人才流失，這是香港的黃昏。（文：阮穎嫻-大學...助理講師）{}詳釋 5個多月了，香港陷入了多年未見的風暴..香港經濟正式衰退-在抗議活動爆發之前..大規模抗議活動開始以來，經濟急劇惡化，零售、餐飲、酒店及旅遊業, {教育業}受到 {致命}的打擊最大...到目前為止，其他行業（例如專業服務和金融行業）相對能抗跌。總體失業率保持在低水平，但預計會逐步{急速}惡化。抗議活動開始以來，由於住房供應緊張和低利率，房產價格{暫}沒有下跌很多....高官{3司13局長}束手無策-社會動盪持續多月，沒有絲毫減弱。不確定性和信心崩潰可能會令商業投資和消費減少，使長期全面衰退的風險急速上升。林鄭政府沒有採取有效措施使局勢平靜下來。高官常歸咎結構性問題導致動亂，例如政府稱要「回應市民怨氣，包括貧富懸殊」。官員不認清是政治問題也算了，結構問題包括高樓價及社會流動等本來就是政府的責任，問題多年來得不到解決，官員早應下台問責，但現在反而怪責結構性問題，推卸責任，離晒大譜.....政府有一女子 {林鄭曾說己向中央請辭, 未獲接納, 但市民己接納她的請辭} 嫌香港經濟死得不夠快，要求「攬炒」，結果真的攬炒了...一國兩制」兩面刃 - {國內貪官移民香港作奸犯科, 操控港府官員,從事貪污舞弊活動, 炒賣樓宇地皮, 以各種方法行賂官員, 中聯辨更利用黑警和黑幫制造7.21 元朗地鉄站恐怖襲擊及8.31 太子站黑警打死人事件, 震驚國際, 美國更指中國為流氓政權! 一國兩制己名存實亡!}這座城市作為國際樞紐的成功很大程度上取決於「一國兩制」的原則...最近以《緊急法》方式立《禁蒙面法》{但不適用於警隊-反影香港行政黑暗獨裁的一面}.....香港很多人只想準時返工，不奢望準時放工。大家都知道香港不是安居樂業的地方，世界各地的人才來港搵錢，搵完就走。只要基層死唔去，中產捱得住，有錢繼續搵，這個社會共識，儘管受到左翼及後物質主義挑戰，多年不變...制度敗壞、{黑警當道, 基建貪腐與超支,官商勾結, 官員辦事官僚, 用人為親, 明日大嶼離地政策, 和最新的香港理工大學64事件, 警察向學生開槍濫殺手無寸鉄, }以至人才流失 {民不聊生, 房屋問題未解, 人口過多, 劏房人口超25萬每天還要接收內地貧窮的新移民150人}，這是香港的黃昏。
Blocks emergency lane to a major hospital in Hong Kong. Classy protest strategy. No wonder the residents are starting disapprove. Common sense outweighs youthful naivety.
@@realdeal7530 they show the violence on both sides and don't claim the rioters are peaceful protesters, which the BBC, CNN and others have been claiming
Billy Y ... Just because BBC, CNN and Fox News suck and are biased, it doesn't mean ALL "western" media have the same view. Even in the UK and US, not all media take the same view as CNN and BBC ... You even said that yourself after watching this Channel 4 report. And that's forgetting all the other media outlets in the western world. The "west" generally means North America and Europe, so that's a lot of countries. How about media from France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Poland, Denmark, Ireland, Greece, Austria, Luxembourg, Czech Republic etc? ... They are all countries in the western world, and there are hundreds of media outlets in those countries. You'd have to have watched media reports from ALL "western" countries to be 100% sure that the "western media" can be generalised as biased or not showing both sides of the story. Just because the US and UK report in a certain way, it does not mean the entire western world takes the same view. In fact, many western countries are not fond of the US at all, and would rather not be associated with them. In the same way, if the Chinese media take a certain stance on an issue, it doesn't mean by default that all "eastern media" take the same view. The opinions broadcast by media outlets from Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia etc are often very different from that of China's media. So again, just as the US is not representative of the "west", China is not representative of the "east" either ... It's well known that Japanese, Korean and Chinese media often take very different views on a wide range of topics, just as media in the western world often do not take the same view as one another. The bottom line is, there is no such thing as "western media" ... and there is no such thing as "eastern media" ... There are simply too many countries, too many media outlets, and too many differing opinions to realistically lump them all together under the condescending term "western media". Generalisations are never a good thing. If we are to call out media outlets on their false news or biased reporting, then we should be addressing them individually as corporations, rather than accusing an entire hemisphere's media of being responsible.
I have always supported protests and freedom of speech in Hong Kong, despite the fact it has largely enjoyed this until now, and i have no love for the CCP, but persistent use of violence and vandalism would turn anyone against them. And the outright and avid support and encouragement by western media with a clear corporate and pro-US agenda is disgraceful. I live in a country where violence and disruption of this kind would never be tolerated and would be met by a similar police reaction if not worst. The protestors are not able to walk a very sensitive line between protesting against CCP encroachment and safeguarding what they have enjoyed in the last two decades. They instead want this utopian fantasy of revolution and are driven partly by a western audience who do not live in Hong Kong and ignorant of international politics.
Thats what you get for blocking the roads and infiltrate the public area (hospital, mall, station, airport, etc). You guys protest against Government or against Hongkong citizen?
This is what happens when the protest get overridden by agendas and become a proxy war. In the end the city and the residents in HK suffer. Their demands not met, their finance took a hit, they lose investments, attraction, and in a way, future.
This seems to be the case all the time for demonstrations occur. Even if one supports the reasons of the protest it will not help the cause if it leads to anarchy and chaos. In France the so called Gillets Jaunes at first had strong support but when their members looted shops and destroyed cars and businesses public turned on them one french shop owner puts it "I am angry at high prices and the rule of elites at well but why are these people robbing me of my livelihood". This also furthers the argument for more repressive governments that protest and demonstrations and rights will lead to crime and decay and economic decline.
the difference is that gillets jaunes did not really have a purpose or an end goal. Not like in Hong Kong, where the end goal is universal suffrage. This is totally different. Their demands are clear in Hong Kong.
@@sammexp Yet they physically attack and intimidate anyone disagree with them (one died hit by bricks thrown by rioters and the other burned alive still in intensive care, they literally dosed him with gasoline and set him on fire during an argument) and now HK people call them the "black terror". They are so much worse than their imaginary enemies.
@@sammexp Hong Kong was previously under British colonial rule from 1841-1997, during which Hong Kong *did not enjoy democracy* and virtually no elections were held by people of Hong Kong while it was British colony. Only during the period of Hong Kong handover back to mainland China that Hong Kong people finally get to vote in elections for their favourite leaders. So isn't it thanks to mainland China that Hong Kong people finally get democracy under the One Country, Two Systems Policy, when they had none before?
@@Shenzhou. the british started to make democratic reforms before, but they were stopped by China which saw it as a menace for the future reunification ...
@@sammexp The British only started liberal democracy reform right before handing over to China, so they did it to screw China. And even with democratic reform the governor was still appointed by queen, so not elected. Only under Chinese rule HK governor was elected. Of course the candidate needs to be vetted by Chinese central government but that happens in almost all liberal democratic countries. Do you think Trump was not vetted before he became president? So HK rioters are being ignorant to say the least, then again you can see that from their behaviours.
The majority of the Hong Kong people want to get back to their daily life. Blocking road and vandalising MTR with violence has never been a solution but destroying their home and neighbour.
I‘ve said it in many videos. And here you see it: Majority of HK citizens are against the violent protest. In fact the minority of violent protester made the majority of peaceful democratic protester look bad in the international press.
Tell me: how much change has peaceful protest achieved in history? You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. But for the courage of these youngsters, HK citizens would probably have been submitted to Chinese rule already, which means they wouldn't even have the right to voice their opinion fir or against a protest.
@@antoniomarcos5321 Those youngsters are cowards, always avoiding responsibilites for their actions. Generations of Chinese sacrificed their lives to build our country, and as of today many are still willing to sacrifice for greater goods. Those protesters, however, always have their face covered, hoping that if they won't have their jobs lost or future affected because of participation in violence. By the way, Hong Kong is under Chinese rule, despite as a speical administrative region with a different system. And for your last point, unfortunately that's what the protesters have done. Opposing the protesters in front of them as Chinese will result in you get beaten up, if not worse. There's more than enough footage of that.
Antonio Marcos How much change has violent protest achieved then, Occupy Wall Street changed anything? Those bankers who gave good ratings to bad possessions and sold them to public insurance funds got prosecuted? The gap between rich and poor got any closer? What’s the point of breaking those eggs and flushing them down the toilet....
