The reason is probably related to the fact that the character in the banner was given for free and the other one had a lot of people saving for. Honkai probably getting back to 2 in the next one
@@mr.halfrightthats why they refer to Genshin as a cash cow since those money is being used for their other games like the Honkai Impact 3rd, Star Rail, their new one thats in development Zenless Zone Zero.
@@BookOfEnchantments no the problem Its with the developer that are greedy even when developer of Honkai impact 3rd change to him Its make same problem with Genshin, with even almost no reward
There are even cringier ads for genshin especially in its first and second year. The typical actors who are comparing characters and one is far better than the other.
I got one before with Jean and Cheveruse and Jean is picking up two hilichurls and launches them while chev shoots them in mid air The most creative thing I've seen in genshin, Lord help me
I mean, genshin wouldnt even be a thing if it werent for honkai and its 3 variants. Its what made them money and fame. Just be grateful they even give out stuff in genshin.
If yall still wondering why hsr lost 8M cause last month hsr was a few dáy of ruan mei banner and dr ratio banner, hsr got a free dr ratio last month(genshin could never) so the income is low
that not even in the same month they announce it this month not last month@@danielong3849 the only reason is because the free dr ratio (genshin could never)
@@real_clap9993 not the same thing. Losing 8m implies that they lost an actual 8m. But they did not lose any money, they just made 8m less, you can never lose something if you didn't have it in the first place.
It’s bait. They didn’t lose the money, they spent a fat ton on advertising. Gotta spend money to make money, that’s business. They are gonna recoup their loses with the new banners coming out for sure.
@@louderthenvisualthe revenue he showed isnt even affected by what the company spent thats how much they won on the chart, being compared to previous momth tbf the dr ratio banner was garbage
is quite easy to explain. Genshin doesn't have a real competitor right now so they don't need to try as hard. Right now they still got a monopole on open world action gachas. On the other hand, there's plenty of turn based gachas out there, including long term cash cows like FGO. So the HSR team has to push in a lot more money into advertising and giving out rewards to keep the players entertained so that they choose their game over so many others on the market
I think that’s a good perspective to show. Genshin does earn a lot of money no matter how much people trash the game because there are not as many options, much less good options. And even games that are planning to come out like wuthering waves, the games will be compared (and already are) to genshin. New games similar to genshin have a lot to live up to and a lot that is expected from them. People will naturally want better things, and when genshin does get a competitor they will probably change gears and work a bit harder to keep their fanbase.
Nah star rail and genshin go back a forth on profit. I predict HSR will overtake profit of genshin in 2024. The Acheron banner comes out in 7 weeks and will probably blow genshin banner sales out of the water, at least for 2024
because there are different production and marketing teams on each side... star rail will always be more generous as long as the department manager doesn't change
Im sure they just forgot about the time where genshin spent millions advertising several times in times square,and purposely chose the worst add ever.Also not gonna mention the orchestra tour?
@@jellythewomanconsumer1590i play several gacha games Out of all of them, hsr seems to be the one with the best features outside of combat Nikke has a fun combat system Too much waifu tho But at the same time 4% for a 5* ain't that bad
I feel as if Genshin is the middle child, whilst Honkai is the youngest and most loved Bro this wasn’t meant to attract attention and drama.. I mean, you can interact with this, but no more genshin or star-rail drama please, I love both 💁♂️🤌
@@orekisan6534 I know that's a joke, and I hope that's a joke. There is only one honkai that came after Genshin. The word "Youngest" should make it obvious.
@jameskang1902 there are several games with the word honkai. There is Houkai Gakuen, Hokkaido Gakuen 2, Honkai impact 3rd (what most people call Honkai), and Honkai Star Rail (which people call Star Rail). Because despite having the world honkai in the name, we have yet to actually see Honkai in Honkai Star Rail
Obviously the video is to make HSR looks good, dude also ignored the fact that Genshin had done advertisement in the biggest New York Time Square's screen multiple times, they also had done the 3D illusion ad in China,Japan and Korean presentinf Barbara, HuTao and Paimon but he only nitpick the most cringe Genshin RU-vid ad to make it looks bad on this video, recently Genshin also just had a collaboration with an Airline company, the airplane exterior was painted with Could Retainer and the interior filled with Genshin stuff, this is the second time they collaborate with an Airline company, last time was a whole Airport filled with Genshin stuff, even had Katheryne as receptionist. If he show that in the video, HSR would looks really bad with their giant screen ball that play ad for a few seconds lol
@@fyz4919 there's also that one genshin collaboration with tokyo skytree tho fairly speaking for both sides, there will always be people who will keep saying shit like "HSR/genshin could never", making videos about why one of them is better than the other, these kinds of people never even realized that they can simply, you know, play both games and enjoy all of them(wasn't a game supposed to be a form of entertainment in the first place?) instead of shitting on one another like bunch of retards, they treat these games like some political parties in which they must pick a side and shit, worse still, the games are from the same company, pointless competition, really
I once heard someone saying that even if Genshin ads feel awkward and cringey often, they don't exaggerate what the game is like. No crazy promises or promotional animations you'll never see in-game, which is actually good if you think about it, cause if those catch your interest in genshin then you REALLY want to play the game for itself. Like "Get up to 80 free pulls and get all the new characters" (I'm sure we all know these hsr ads) is just a scam, however good it sounds
@@ayanokoujikiyotaka4828 I meant the "get all characters" not the 80 pulls part, tho that's also a bit exaggerated, cause you gotta do stuff to collect all those warps not just downloading the game from the ads' links
@@water_hungry I haven't seen the "get all the new characters" line but if you're right then it's probably a bit scummy. But like, I don't think anyone should expect much from gacha game ads in general ,even from a big company like mihoyo, they just hire other companies to manage their ads.
@@ayanokoujikiyotaka4828 That's probably true. I couldn't find the ad I saw once which said this, but I remember hearing it and be like "damn, this is some high level misleading"
that banner was complete ass but Kafka (the literal queen of the entire dot playstyle like playing dot without her is like eating pizza without cheese) was there
yeah but everyone who actually wants to build dot based team shoud've already get her, you know. Also I have to remind you that right next to kafka was.. um.. Black Swan which is actually much better since, well, aoe damage, ability to ignore 40% def, stable dots on every enemy instead of 1 target per turn and etc..
@@jasperreyes5174 Literally, I was watching this video hoping for actual HSR content and it literally somehow tied itself to Genshin. I swear Mr. Fantastic makes less stretches than this guy made for a reason to compare the two games in this scenario.
I kinda played Star Rail for a while, but recently stopped, like a month ago. I also already took a break of two months around 1.4/1.5 and somehow never got back into the game. Maybe I will go back some day, but for now, not even the story is intriguing enough to me. I'm honestly getting so annoyed at all those comparisons between GI and HSR. I just want to play GI in peace... 😢
Well let’s be realistic here…Genshin doesn’t need to make flashy advertisement cause the game is beyond popular, much more than Star Rail…Star Rail isn’t as popular so of course they’re gonna do more flashy shit to attract more players to the game while Genshin is in every single corner of the internet (intentionally or not)
The Genshin/HSR ads which play in the city where I live (e.g. metro station, TV, RU-vid) are just gameplay/cutscene footages of the latest characters/events. What actually are THOSEEE
You’re aware that while Genshin impact doesn’t go as crazy as the Vegas sphere, they also have much better ads than the cringey ones which are usually shown much more often… this comparison is like if I compared the zhongli demo trailer with “hi I’m Natasha, an underworld doctor”
@@jaskajokunen3716I haven’t seen any of these ads portraying Genshin as a dating sim, but I feel like this goes to show how many ads there are and how different people get different ads depending on what RU-vid thinks they might like
My god... Star Rail didn't lose money, that website compares the money they make every month, so they made 8 millon dollars less in 1.6 compared to 1.5 And they obviously made less money. They gave a 5 star for free and everyone was saving for 2.0 banners. You didn't even explain it
didnt lose 8 million they just profited 8 million less compared to last month Moreover that was because of lack of new character February will see a huge increase due to the 2.0 release
Their revenue might be low because of dr ratio but thats alot of revenue for one character and theres alot of players going into star rail because of the free 5 star which sets up the hype in penacony and the revenue will sky rocket
Brother they lost 8 million in a dead patch they are gonna double Genshin sales when 2.0 is counted in Gacha sales and I already like Star rails story better then litterly everything in Genshin besides Fontaine and then they milked furina dry I can believe anyone can legitimately play Genshin and have fun
@HenIsHuman Ok, but just because you can do old events doesn't mean it's fun. I'm 100% up to date on both games. I have never replayed a honkai event even a single time. I'm just too glad to be done with them. Now if I contrast that to the start of genshin the first 2 years I leveled 3 accounts to AR60 cause I couldn't get enough off the freedom of exploring the world. HSR might have good story but the gameplay is boring af. I would probably have stopped playing HSR if there wasn't a Auto button. In the end it 2 completely different games. I play both at the same time while I explore and do events on Genshin. I have HSR auto battleing on my 2nd screen. Now if you want to play a fun game gobplay palworld or a game with good story go play any other SP RPG.
Simple. Turn based games will always be the less favourable genre compared to open world explore... Honkai i can play for 30 min and be done. Genshin i can explore for an hour. And there are other areas genshin does better, i can get into all of it if needed
@@HenIsHumantrue with no end game content it makes farming pointless an all genshin's endgame is TCG which I'm not fond of if I wanted to play TCG I would play Yu-Gi-Oh master duel, hsr I like having endgame content to test out my characters to the fullest which makes farming more interesting
@@mr.zhongli6886 i re checked some videos and assume you meant "Story Teaser: La vaguelette" which is not even close to the hsr's "WHITE NIGHT" music video
@@unknown4me I'm not talking about that, but well if you think hsr is better then its ok who cares about some music videos they both have those video thats what the matter here...
Your comment just proved the fact that Genshin is Hoyoverse's cash cow for it's other games. Because people are stupid enough to spend lots of money on a game that doesn't listen to its playerbase.
@@HenIsHuman it really dosent lol, have you never seen sensor tower reports? hsr made more money than genshin during its release but never after that, ass of jan 2024, genshin is at 35mil and HSR is at 20mil
@@sen2815 have you ever considered people spending money because you enjoy the game itself? i mean even after all this boycotting which I supported 100% ....xianyun banner had the best 1st day banner sales in all of mihoyo history lol most people don't care about gatcha freebies
@@Indian_gae_boii hsr is at 20 million because we got a free dr ratio. Genshin made more because the boycott flopped and casuals will always drop the big bucks down the shitter regardless of how poorly they get treated. Most people don't care about the free stuff because they end up whaling anyway
HSR: (spends 2 million playing an ad on the Vegas Sphere) Genshin Impact: (literally holds multiple concerts dedicated to its legendary soundtrack around the whole globe) Do we REALLY wanna compare? I don't see HSR getting concerts OR an anime, for that matter. It's not hard to rent the Vegas sphere, and 2 million is chump change for Genshin. But the reason why HSR rented the Vegas Sphere is because Penacony literally looks like an art-deco Vegas world filled with gambling, slot machines and rubber hose animation. Genshin doesn't have something like that. HSR could NEVER
bro actually said legendary soundtrack... genshin has never won any award for music. But they do have a ton of psycho fans that will buy tickets to anything
@@Mattyhaz123 The reason why Genshin hasn't won an award for its music is because they only nominate games that are finised, you fucking retard. Genshin isn't done yet, so it won't be nominated. In any case, I do think it's hilarious that you think only legendary soundtracks get nominated for awards shows. 90% of the best OSTs in gaming have never been nominated for jack shit, they're just legendary because they're so damn good. And Genshin is much the same, since its music is a genuine breath of fresh air in the industry, blending styles that have never been blended before, and creating a genuine love letter to classical music by blending in tastefully with what is modern today.
Because HSR didn't LOSE anything. The video is a clickbait. 1.6 patch was basically a filler. Ratio was given for free, so less money spent on his banner. And many got Kafka on her Release, so again less money spent. You can say they earned 8 million less. Because as many as already said, you can't lose what you don't have. Why would people spent money on a free character? Rather they would save.
@@pumkin_muffins and you're still coping over a game that will pretty much die as fast when a competition appears. HSR is doing well for a genre that is too saturated. Genshin with all the shitstorm that's been goin on won't last long for that matter. Heck, I even think they'll just finish snezhnaya and be done with it.
Its not that genshin could never, its that genshin doesnt need to Over the past 3 years genshin has already become of the most popular games, and the most popular gacha game. It has raked in so much cash for hoyo and created a loyal fanbase that naturally grows purely through word of mouth. Every ad genshin makes is marginal to its already insane fanbase whereas star rail is still new and doesnt has as much _impact_ as genshin does, thats why they need to pour money into marketing As a statistic, genshin has 3 times more active players than star rail.
@@lythe2066 as someone who plays both games, personally, HSR in particular has been very fun to play: devs listen to feedback, improve on the game with every patch, loads of regular updates, beautiful visuals ( environment and character design ), interesting story to follow, fun game mechanics and it actually has engame content. so i disagree with you, but that is just my opinion. each to their own.
@@dignuteYes! lets compare two ads where one is targetted for a much higher audience while the other is a youtube ad, lets not talk about marketing here when genshin has billboards all over NYC with a similar scale alongside concerts around the globe but sure just keep feeding the narrative of "the favorite child"
@@lucklei4665 idk why you're pissed at me for comparing these advertisements as I am not the one who made the video to begin with, you should have an issue with the creator of this video, but sure. Let's put these advertisements aside and let's look at the way hoyo treats the players of both games, it's obvious there's a favourite child and who it is.
So you telling me, Star Rail lose 8 Mil because they spent all that money on ads. While mocking Genshin didn't do better ads then Star Rail?. Dude, what ad budget got to do with Stail Rail sells revenue?. This video literally killed my brain cells. lol
U know what i realised after the cny incident. A lot of genshin ads which mostly cringe and even my local influencer did genshin ads. Like seriously, instead of do something for the mass critism. They increase ads instead
The genshin ad was hella better what are you people talking about. The star rail ad doesn’t even envoke the feeling of the game whereas the genshin ad gives that sense of adventure that the game brings.
Could be because hsr is trying to get more players since the playerbase drastically decreased since launch, while genshin remains a steady flow of players and doesn't need grand advertisement because it's already extremely popular.
Also, no. Those numbers are estimated. You can actually change the estimate value in the settings. And they still made a very large profit, just less according to those estimates.
