not the only one ancheron can too she legit create SUPER Masssiveblackhole and everything stops then destorys the dim... ofc welt in prime solos everyone hsr but no longer herrsciher powers anymore atleast 90% of it... so right now welt wont beat an aeon and even loses some people like ancheron but if does get powerback then ofc still people stronger then him
@@ADDISON6368I’m pretty sure welt would beat Acheron with full power because he can create an artificial black hole meanwhile Acheron just had it to make her attack look pretty. So welt still beats her
@@hazmatbob1519 "planetary" bro Welt can create an entire universe if he wants 💀 every Humans in HI3 is basically Galaxy level without cosmology because of the Type 3 Civilization
@@renzy-chanah yea let’s compare anyone to kevin,sounds so fair right? People that compare anyone to kevin are basically idiots and opportunists because everyone knows kevin is the strongest.It’s like comparing anything to a meteor wiping out earth.So tell me people that can defeat welt that’s not kevin? Or all you know is kevin
Ngl at first I thought this was like a wack gameplay tierlist until aeons started showing up 💀 (also seeing himeko at strong I already knew something was wrong)
@@Frozgtell me what a girl with a gun can do? Or a girl with an entire army with not much futuristic weaponry like welt’s universe.Gameplay wise she’s super strong but lore wise she is not strong.Lore wise welt is the strongest out of all of them excluding aeons since we don’t know their strength
@@mrburpmud in the fight against Phantylia, canonically everyone else fought against the flowers, Dan Heng supported from a range and Jing Yuan fought Phantylia alone. Welt still got tired out, and yes he was using his cane. Trailblazer and March also barely kept up. Dan Heng showed himself to be the strongest from the Astral Express there with with his previous reincarnation's power but Jing Yuan showed to be the strongest because he (although barely) beat Phantylia. You can pull some mental gymnastics to make it seem like Welt is more powerful but canon is canon.
@@Mogtoa in the HI3 universe they explore a lot of universe traveling sort of stuff, so yes, Welt did travel universes, and he did it with another character, VA (Void Archives) who was supposedly on the Astral express for a while but then just left for some reason. But yeah so Welt can’t actually travel back to his original universe or even communicate with anyone from there so he’s trying to figure out a way to do that.
Also if you’re wondering WHY they traveled universes, it’s because they were infiltrating an alien species base (the “sky people”. They go to different civilizations and suck the Honkai energy out of them and then destroy them) and trying to destroy it, but in the sky people’s information log things, Himeko from Star Rail was pictured there. Welt asked VA why they were interested in her specifically (he knew Himeko back in his world and was her college(?) professor. Her dad turned evil and so welt killed him, which then indirectly caused Himeko death in his world, so he feels guilty about her death and blames it partially on himself.) VA explained that the sky people were probably gonna destroy her civilization to take their Honkai energy, but she was from another universe and it wasn’t the same Himeko he knew, and that they weren’t obligated to help them, but ended up convincing himself to go help anyways cause if the sky people got stronger by invading her world then that world mean he and welt would just have to fight them off later then they’re stronger anyways. No one actually knows WHY the sky people are targeting Himeko or even what they want from her. TLDR; welt went to HSR universe because an alien species is trying to destroy it and he wants to protect Himeko.
My guess is at some point they might fight or meet in the future.And when that happens welt might actually start using the star of edens power.Atm lore wise he hasn’t used star of eden in hsr I believe (didn’t use in phantylia fight aswell) Gameplay wise he does
@@FD-wl7xqi guess so i really hope we get to meet void archives in the future, and the only reason why welt didn't use the star of eden on phantylia is probably because he didn't wanted nanook to target him to early.
Imo he is strong that he can probably fight an aeon.Now we don’t really know how strong aeons are but I know for a fact welt will survive longer then the other hsr characters so far.Star of eden alone is still strong especially since welt has experience
@@adriantepes4355bcuz he's not a guy who would go ape and destroy everything without a reason, but if he goes at full potential then he can throw a supernova and most people in HSR verse would be obliterated
I actually wonder what would have happened to Penacony IF they had both fought.. im pretty sure if two black holes collide, not only penacony but the asdana star system would be destroyed in minutes just by the explosion of two blackholes colliding 💀💀💀
@@TheBoltMaster456nah, Herrschers > Aeons they will be the same or MAYBE superior if the Aeons manage to destroy universes and multiverses, currently the Herrschers like Kiana surpass them (not counting the existing gods in GGZ that also surpass them)
@@personano bro emanators alone are already star - solar system level, Aeons gotta be minimum in the galaxy - multi-galaxy rangers. emphasis on minimum.
@@TheBoltMaster456lmao Hersrcher minimum cosmology scales to 2D universal how much more if they fully awaken Lol Aeon can't stand toe to toe to a hersrcher.
i like to think that during the fight with aventurine, acheron wasn’t protecting everyone from aventurine, but instead from welt who was LITERALLY SPAWNING A BLACK HOLE WITH NO HESITATION-
@@rickelmehanwinckel2699i would like to state his feats but i aint got enough time, welt can just be scaled to hyperversal, he doesnt shit on the whole verse in hsr bcs a lot of his power is sealed and devs generally dont care about scaling, hsr welt could maybe be like 1/100th of his original power
Gramps is the 2nd herrsher of reason originally from the honkai impact world for those who don't know Herrshers in a nutshell: Really strong god like people
Proof? He’s from Honkai impact 3rd and he is a herrsche (one of the most powerful beings in the verse) and plus in the hsr universe his power is at 10%
@@m0onnzzk I don't think you guys get what i mean. Welt is from HI3, therefore he's the only one who's not originated from HSR. That's why I called him an impostor, because technically shouldn't be there. There's no proof, this is just a joke
@@m0onnzzkhe is no longer a herrsher u clown, he lost his divine key & core 🙄 & powers got sealed, & in hsr he is nerfed, until hoyo decides to buff in future story
@@nnerepp uuhm YES? Welt is literally a former herscherr which may i remind u solos both honkai impact 3rd AND genshin impact and you can also include star rail too. Svarog is literally just a robot😐
Every anime style game be like : *watch a girl wearing gold armor able lifting a 7 ton sword * *meanwhile the 20yo elf boy barely able to lift a long sword*
@@adriantepes4355 the name itself should be a differentiation, gods are still subject to universal laws while outer gods aren't, Zeus just absorbed the concepts represented by other gods until he got killed by Thanatos and created the imaginary tree, outer gods have always been a thing, separate from space-time and whose followers themselves contain powers superior to that of regular gods
Welt and acheron are in a whole other dimension of power compared to everyone else in the game story wise. Acheron just might be stronger than welt if shes able to cut through his black hole but its hard to tell if she can. If she cant then welt is the strongest
That one looks almost the exact same as the herresher(oof I can’t spell it now..)of humanity,even has the hair loop thing across her face Edit:if no one knows who I’m talking about it’s the lady with multiple arms and lots of jewelry
@@adriantepes4355 ye but he was a single herrscher with a single core while Sirin was a herrscher boosted by the WOH and had several herrshcer cores given to her. So surviving a battle against her is already impressive enough
If you guys don't understand up to this day still Welt is Hersercher of Reason 2nd to be exact each one of them have their own Star of Eden which all can controls Gravity which is what Welt is Casually doing in his burst that Black hole maybe not as powerful as bronya could make(because he doesn't have full power of HoR which greatly influenced the Star of Eden because SoE is Created from HoR's power(not the original SoE if i remembered correctly)) it's still dangerous because it can literally still suck you up like how the game demonstrate
@@bitchgetter2000 sadly we have no evidence of how tsaritsa looks like, or if archons can travel through universes. Elysia and March look way too similar and have the same personality and march doesn’t even know her name
He can't. The aeons control the very universe Welt lives in. The aeons like Nanook especially are far too strong. As Welt says, the paths are philosophical concepts and parts of the element of imaginary. The aeons completely take over these parts of the imaginary element and can use the concept in whatever way they desire. So Nanook, the aeon of destruction embodies the concept of entropy death. If he decided to end the universe himself he'd have done so with ease.
@@Noname-mi1oo ...I think you missed Welt's explanation. Aeons are intelligent beings who fuse with their paths. What is a path? It's a metaphysical aggregation of one or more philosophical concepts and is a part of the imaginary element that pretty much determines everything in the universe of Honkai. So in other words aeons are parts of the imaginary element too (Welt states that as well and so does the other data sources).
@@Legenducky she supposedly has a strong connection to the path of the rememberance. But yeah she may become very strong just like Kiana in the end of her story where she literally became a goddess and could delete universes with a snap of her finger
He's not THAT broken. Yea sure, as a herrscher he's easily above a regular person. But against the stronger characters such as Jing Yuan he's not all that powerful. Even in HI3 he wasn't up to the level of the stronger herrschers and it's mostly because his body is not perfectly compatible with his core.
@@adriantepes4355i would disagree on jing yuan winning against welt.The star of eden is powerful surpassing LL and jing yuan wasily.Atm lore wise in hsr welt haven’t used the star of eden yet for unknown reasons.But even hersher welt would easily defeat jing yuan or jing liu and that’s just a fact.Even final lesson himeko could defeat LL and jing yuan let alone welt with 2nd devine key
@@collector153 Idk why you think he has 1% of his power. Welt is not THAT strong. Compared to the other Herrschers his compatibility with his core was a lot lesser. And besides, the emanators in HSR are at the very least comparable to that of the herrschers
@@adriantepes4355wym by that, prime welt fought sirin while sirin has a buff of Will Of Honkai, but he manage to give a fight to sirin even so closed to kill her.
Wtf? An aeon is literally a part of the imaginary element itself. Aeons such as IX can obliterate the universe with just a thought. Welt's got nothing to stop them. If he really were that strong he would've beaten Nanook. But no, herrschers are nowhere near an aeon
@@adriantepes4355do you know the purpose of welt coming here? Why would he go kill an aeon when that’s not his objective.Sure he won’t defeat an aeon but he of all hsr characters atm stands a chance to fight.Other characters even jingliu and jing yuan would last a good amount of time probably but not long like welt since star of eden is that strong plus he has too much war time and experience
@@FD-wl7xq She finger gunned a goddess who can't even put a scratch on an Aeon. I'd also like to remind you that Kiana couldn't do it alone. She had necessary back up which is why she won. Just because it was a "finger gun" doesn't mean she didn't put much power into it. Sa didn't even have as much power as Lan
@@FD-wl7xq "Do you know the purpose of Welt coming here?" Yea ofcourse. His purpose is to protect Himeko from the sky people. But he came in and realized that there are much greater threats than those. Welt couldn't even touch Ryunosuke, what makes you think that Welt can touch an entity such as an aeon?
