Horizon Forbidden West [PC] vs [PS5] | Direct Comparison 

How to enable frame gen in game

Well said my friend

Inthe options but you need geforce 4xxx to use it​@@Afroz10x

Then you might want to increase your sharpening. You set it to 5 on PC, PS5 might just have a higher value for that.

I think it is more of the fact that the PS5 is using essentially the same hardware that is used on the PC. Just a much much weaker version so that it can fit in a console and stay within the much smaller power constraints of the PS5

Developers statement is, that the PS5 is not at the limit and PS5 pro is too early. And i also agree. People looking too much to naked hardware specs. But you have to use them. It is a waste of hardware if you jumping on a next more powerful hardware when you not have reached the peak. It also makes optimization worse (also for PC at the end)

@@supremancy Yes, but even without an operating system that eats up resources and does things in the background.

It's also interesting that a lot of the cross gen games that have versions for both PS4 and PS5 (like HFW, GoW Ragnarok, Ghost of Tsushima) run very well. Meanwhile we got recent titles like Dragons Dogma 2 and Rise of the Ronin that can either barely run 30 fps or have to have major drops in resolution for performance mode.

the crazy thing is that sony first party developers can pull these kind of graphics out of a ps5 just think about the potential of a 4090 if a developer really knew what they were doing.

Sony should always send you review copies.

Yea, agreed. I’m a pc guy but I’ve been playing all the recent Sony games on pc in 32:9 and I love it. Just finished dats gone and a rift apart and loved it!Horizon Zero Dawn is next

Horizon2 looks like black magic on a Ps4 Pro

The skin on Aloys close-ups just boggles my mind.

Graphic is good, but game itself not so good. Zero Dawn felt noticeably more... finished? Like if I needed to get somewhere I walked there, it makes for good immersion. But in Forbidden West some of such travels are just cutscenes and lot of events are just hard-scripted, often Aloy just taking in dialogues by herself, game didn't give as much dialogue choices than fist part did. It feels like I not controlling character as much. It breaks immersion a lot. Also key bindings on PC is kinda awfull, double click on any movement key jumps in that direction, tab open map, F opent weapon selector, r use item. After playing fist part this is very, very distracting, and at this moment there is no possibility to change key bindings. Game needs a few patches.

@@user-ut4vl8bw2k there is just a more cinematic feel to the game. It is wanted not an matter ff finished or not.

Theres loads of games that came out this generation with bad graphics.

still quite rare

There barely anything going on on death stranding. Of course it will run great

@@GForceIntel Well Forbidden West is a different story and it runs excellent 👍🏽

@s0ad29 It's the developer, not the engine.

Horizon2 looks like black magic on a Ps4 Pro

Y en la PS4 base

And that's why I buy Playstation Exclusives (the ones I like) Day One, because I like to support developers so that the business works and they continue creating technical wonders

Playstation studios knows how to make games. They are up there with the very best studios .

Yup idk if they fixed it in todays patch

still not good that it has that bug also wht with the building but on console it still not fixed ?

i hope they do.. bcoz at 7:28 aloy's face looks better then the pc

No, I think it's just better able to be optimised on console. And since it's a console api exclusive optimised for the PS5 hardware

@@exoticspeedefy7916 nope, you just have no idea how this works

@@exoticspeedefy7916I don’t think you understand pc gaming

who care about Pc, most games are bugged af lol

​@@exoticspeedefy7916Bro... why do you feel the need to explain something you know nothing about?

I just finished playing BG3 and began Forbidden West, and I find I'm watching the characters, not sitting there reading text and waiting for the NPCs to finish talking because I feel bad skipping the voice lines people worked so hard on lol

Crazy how FW is a cross gen game as well. Just shows that game devs are not using the PS5 hardware to it's maximum potential. It's a bad joke that DD2 runs at 30 FPS on the PS5 and XBSX when 99% of other games run at a smooth 60 on them.

Y si lo pones en 4k a cuantos frames va?

​@@JonathanGodoy-wi7jfI hope this translates well, when going from 1440p to 4k, the average performance drop is about 26%, despite the resolution increase being about 75%. This is because oh how GPUs render data from game engines, it has to throw away less of it's work putting calculated data and fit ot into pixels. It's a bit more complicated than that, but it can be more efficient. Anywho, 144 fps - 26% = ~ 107fps.

I promise you're not running the game at 200fps like me lol

Didnt experience anything remotely like that. But it might be an issue with some other configurations if thats being reported as an issue.

@@Nick930 hopefully I’ll have a chance to test it tonight. I’m running a 4090 and it’s annoying me experiencing this. I’m suspecting reflex too but we'll see

Turn off reflex. It’s currently broken.

@@GOPNiK-47you should try adding the other components like a cpu and ram. gpu only rigs are a bad idea

@@RicochetForcemaybe on your toaster

Frame gen Literally doesn't show any artfact in the game, and he only have framegen in the sound comparasion.

@@hicarodestruiFalse I would guess you are PS5 fan

@@jmangames5562 He literally stated in the comments that framegen was turned on only during the sounds comparasion. + I literally played on my 4070, dlss3 framegen does not degrade the image quality. And what this has to do with "Being oa5 fanboy??"

Duh

Nah. I'll update in a pinned comment if anything changes. Working on a huge documentary atm.

Nice, thanks! Looking forward to that documentary!

A new patch has dropped which introduces some texture streaming improvements. Might be worth checking out.

I usually discuss this towards the end as I want to avoid going into detail on things like resolution and framerates, areas that are already explored in great depth by the good folks over at DF

Games do not get extra assets on resolution increases, you are simply able to make them out more clearly lol

​nah some games literally have higher quality textures while on 4k and give 1440p same textures as 1080p.

@@resColts no they do not its just the fact you need 4k in order to make visible use of the high res textures. They are still there at lower res but cant notice it as well

@user-rt4ct6tq3r games with 4k textures as downloadable file exist you can go educate yourself on the difference

10000% agreed. I like aloy... but she doesnt need to comment on EVERYTHING

I checked this, and the image quality always looked better with DLAA. Something seems to be wrong with the shadowing on those details or the textures themselves

@@Nick930DLAA redraws moving objects, like all DL*. And sometimes it doesn't happen for the best. A waterfall, for example, could be an example of such a change.

@@Nick930 Hi, sorry I'm not that knowledgeable on DLSS & DLAA. May I enquire what's the reason we use DLAA for comparison rather than DLSS? is it that DLAA is superior than DLSS?

@@DaNaceSpaden DLSS renders the game at a lower resolution but makes it look higher quality, DLAA is basically Native DLSS, so it's higher quality since it just handels anti aliassing and doesn't lower the resolution

DLSS is an upscaller, DLAA is a antialiasing@@timodelaender5077

Different game version

Tried it. Thought it might be dlaa but no dice

Except motion blur was disabled on the ps5 too. Whats more, i tested the water with motion blur on as well.

Since when are we turning anti-aliasing off for comparisons lol what?

lol tf turn the aa off and it’ll look like a ps3 game

Well yeah... if you have a pc that can churn out DLAA at high fps then your gonna use it lmao. Same with FG, which doesnt do anything visually but produces more fps. Pc version is far superior as always 🤷‍♂

Tested with dlaa on / off. Just showing the footage i captured here

DLAA does not blur the image.

😂

The trigger literally feels like your pulling on a bow string it has this woody feel to it.

I felt this way after being a huge Zero dawn fan. Push through it picks up drastically after that.

This might actually be fixed by using TAA. They might be blending the effect using Temporal Accumulation which DLSS/DLAA could break here.

@@markjacobs1086 i would have initially thought the ghosting dlss usually causes in many instances would help the waterfall but here it seems to actively work against it

@@ThatsMySkill DLSS/DLAA actively does MORE to counteract ghosting than TAA does in pretty much every instance. That might also be why these look different than perhaps intended.

@@markjacobs1086 yeah i dont know enough about dlss. i just know from gameplay experience there are some instances where there is slight ghosting so i thought it should have blurred the waterfall too. just a wrong assumption on my part

That section was initially longer in this video and i cut it short, because i disabled motion blur in BOTH versions of the game. The per object motion blur shouldnt be required to see a waterfall rendered properly. Most PC players on higher framerates want to disable motion blur effects because the higher framerates negate the need for such an effect. I initially wrote/recorded that this lower quality waterfall isnt necessarily a problem with the port, but rather the downside of switching to a higher framerate to render effects intended for 30fps w/ motion blur effects. I will say though that even when enabling the blur effects (because i had the same thought when i first saw this), the waterfall STILL doesnt look as good for some reason. Because of that, i reduced the length of that section of the video and simplified it.

You need to disable the frame generation, cripples the image@@Nick930

@@Nick930 Fair enough and I agree with you. Like I said before to my eye they don't particularly look any better per se on the PS5 (like the number of particles and or meshes look to be the same or of similar quantity in between the versions) just that the PS5 has that stop-motion blur effect applied. So perhaps it's an upscaling thing or the PC version is lacking per-object motion blur all together.

TLOU runs 4k maxed out HDR dlss quality at 120+fps on my rig. Upgrade your toaster.

On god bro, I'm surprised how well this game runs I can play all high stable FPS no stutters with 2060 8 GB

@@user-rt4ct6tq3r On my rig run at 8k 120 fps!

The quest log is bugged. Everytime I select a quest category, it remains yellow, as if it were selected.

its because nixxes ported this, they did both spiderman ports alongside ratchet and clank, best ports ever imo. im so happy they doing ghost of tsushima in may, what a relief after all the bad ports we had last 4 5 years

You beat it already?? Did you take time off work lol.

@Nick930 just tested. With motion blur turned to 11 waterfall looks the same as on PS5.

Its extremely negligible and will likely be fixed without you knowing it was fixed. Absolutely worth a buy still

But in the game for me since i compared it last time in the same area

That's just the limitations of the effect. Its the same across both versions.

@@Nick930 I know its the same across both versions. What I was trying to say was I was hoping the PC version would fix this. As Frozen Wilds had a similar effect but with a bigger area of effect

Its been done before, but id be willing to try it.

@@Nick930 Retro games are becoming very popular in recent times. Personally, I'd love to see Thief 1 and 2 compared, but it could be anything and I'll be happy to watch

Yup. But not nearly as bad as the ratchet and clank issues. Game still looks beautiful on PC