Horizon Forbidden West - The Story of the Far Zenith Humans EXPLAINED! All Hidden Lore + Scenes 

Something that was never addressed... The Odyssey originally had billions of plant seeds, millions of animal embryos, and 200,000 human embryos. How many of those were used to build Sirius Colony? How many remain to build a second colony? There were 60 or so berths when The Odyssey left the first time, so minimum 60 immortal originals. The holographic images of Sirius show it covered in cities, implying the embryos were birthed and a whole new civilization arose with the Zeniths as their ruling caste... but I think those images were just guesses of what Sirius looked like... maybe they never birthed the 200,000 embryos, or at least not all.

Far Zenith. Rich people decide to Bail Earth and Come Back to be gods.

Around the 20 minute mark, Aloy's first conversation with Beta... I think Beta was proven completely wrong about Far Zenith's motives? The game is pretty heavy-handed sometimes in its messaging, Erik = Erik Prince, Gerard = Jeff Bezos, etc. but the ability to write it all off as Nemesis and not Far Zenith almost feels like a writer's room dispute.

This game was amazing ngl and the new Machines that were added were also amazing. I beat the game a few days ago and I enjoyed the hell out of it.

I just finished the game, and watching this I now realize... the whole conversation between Aloy and Tilda about the painting of Selene and Endymion is being used as a metaphor. Tilda views herself as Selene, and Endymion represents Aloy, the closest thing to Elisabet that Tilda can ever have again.

Flying dutchmen sorry I just can't stop laughing

"We need a calculating shrewd middle aged lesbian with deteriorating morals and an extremely plot relevant ex she cant get over" Carrie-Anne Moss: hello

My suspicion is that the Woman's Voice is actually Tilda.

(Spoilers read at your own rusk) The far zeniths is the beginning of the end of horizon. Think about it, they brought Apollo back, the societies in horizon will be forced to advance technologically at a break neck speed. The innocence that is horizon is now lost. Sylens will devour the knowlege, and force it upon everyone who he can. By the middle of the next game at the latest bows and arrows will no longer be the weapons it will be forced into a wanna be fallout game. Rifles, lasers, and plasma weapons will be the norm. While i understand that Gaia will need to eventually stop, let the new biosphere evolve and mother nature take over, this could have happened in several different ways. With the inclusion of Apollo humans will in a very short time be able to monitor and correct the biosphere with the knowlege gained. Instead of a series that could extend with its innocence for several more chapters (the writing, story, character development, and interactions, make me want several more in this series) instead we are looking at 1 or 2 games tops before its Alloy HALO evolved. Horizon was a fresh breath in the rpg cookie cutter genre, now I fear its going to spiral out of control. Yes Hades had the blueprints for modern guns and scifi lasers, they were limited to shooting off a machine, bulky, and very limited ammo. More of a situational perk not a norm.

WHy do I find that conversation between Erik and The Julius so funny?

One thing I'm consistently impressed with is the body acting of Tilda, I don't know if they Mo-capped the VA but the way she moves her arms in this big sweeping yet restrained motions, almost like shes delivering a keynote speech even though shes only talking to Aloy, just says so much about her character in such a subtle way. Props to everyone involved

Tilda struck me as a coward. Spineless, constantly claiming that the folks in Far Zenith weren't her people, that nothing was her idea, that she had no knowledge of whatever they were doing. Come on now.

Bearded Varl is the move 👌🏻 loved his character progression

I had a sneaking suspicion the ENTIRE time about Tilda only helping Aloy bc she was still in love with Elizabet. She was kinda making me uncomfortable half the time with it 😂 Wasn't expecting her to fight Aloy for rejecting her but ig I shouldn't be surprised lol

Either it’s drugs or I swear this game story is hinting something about real life almost inadvertently.

I could listen to Carrie Anne Moss give art history lessons all day

When the Far Zenith got Gaia, Beta and Hephaestus why didn't they just immediately get to their shuttle and leave the planet where Aloy and her friends couldn't reach them.

Man I know I'm in the minority here. But I hope Tilda survived and will help us with the new upcoming threat.

What I dont understand in this game is that Far Zenith had a 1000 years to improve their technology including gaining immortality, but they still need to travel years to steal a technology which is actually a 1000 years old? 1000 years after Sobeck died and they still cant just recreate gaia in like a month? Sobeck with her old tools, technology and team did it in 15 months and they choose to waste years travelling to steal it? :D That's a joke. It's like for us to travel years to steal Bell's telephone when we have 5G network :D

If Far Zenith was good for anything it's that they had a copy of Apollo. That's it 😂

in the end the girl stabbed the guy from the back, and some water like liquid was dripping from the spear.. have the "immortals" no red blood? or is it a pg bs?

Tilda reminds me of people today how they really put “value” into materialistic things. Like how literally paintings have more value than a human life. It really shows what these kind of people care for most .

Why did the Far Zenith go through the trouble trying to steal Gaia? The whole goal of the operation was for humanity to survive, and to start off with some extra tools and knowledge, to make rebuilding easier. Far Zenith presented Zero dawn with another opportunity for humanity to survive. Why not immediately equip them with everything they might need to guarantee success, including Gaia?

I must of missed something but I am surprised Ted Faro didn’t join the Zenith. Anybody know why he didn’t join them?

dayum i love the character developement between Alloy and Tilda, how weird is to talk to someone from the ancient world that managed to live for hunters of years

The surprises and shocking reveals remind me of Metal Gear series. No wonder Kojima was in the credits

What is interesting is how they have the final catastrophe play out in miniature here again. In the first game the siege of Meridian was an echo of the last stand of Mankind at NORAD/USRC against the Faro Plague. Here, the fall of the Zenith base is an echo of the fall of their planet...this time the role of Nemesis is played by Tilda (and Hephaestus).

I feel like Far Zenith has other AI’s they will learn from. Also to help educate them on ways that they could stop Nemesis

I like the game it look cool and amazing and intended story it was awesome thanks for the video I Love

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My deepest thanks for making this video. I own neither console, nor TV but im a massive sponge for all Fluff. So I thrive of these videos. Without you making those, Id never been exposed to such interesting "fluff". You rock, happy xmas from germany

What bothers me with the far Zenith group is that they were too dependent on So Gaia Prime, all the while they had resources and the knowhow and the time to create their own terraforming AI instead of capturing and repurposing Gaia Prime Compared to Zero Dawn. At the very least they had a working copy of Apollo and access to Eluthia. If they can speed run training Beta into a functioning technologist, and having immortal technologists among their ranks, I believe they can do it. I don't get why they chose to return to earth and endanger Zero Dawn's new humanity while they know that's where Nemesis is going to hunt for them? They could spent those ~400 years salivating over Gaia when they could've made their own, terraform random planets while keeping away from Nemesis and allowing Zero Dawn to proceed as intended.

Also the way aloy was like "thats between me and my sister" gave me chills, very hype Twitches-esque moment

Elon Musk is a Far Zenith lol

What I don't understand is that after 1,000 years you'd think the Zeniths would have no need of GAIA. Think about it. Being on a colony for at least 600+ years and being immortal their technological advancements would far exceed anything created by Faro or Sobek. You'd think they'd have a terraforming system far more advanced and capable than GAIA. Am I the only one who thought this?

ok watching this like this I realise something very, very creepy and straight down horrible about tilda. she said that the other zeniths endulge in VR fantasies, but or course shes lyeing she did it is well and his fantasy was elizabeth, and here she was going to force aloy to go with her and she was going to fullfil those fantasies and after 1000 years I dont thing those fantasies are just holding hands and say I love you, she was going to go Full Dark eldar/drukari on aloy and that idea makes my skin crawl.

While I generally like the story and world building in Horizon....I think I am a little dissapointed in the Nemesis reveal. I mean in almost all robo-apocalypses its a rouge AI which wants to kill all humans, which was KIND of the case in HZD but i felt it was more....nuanced. The faro plauge was (seemingly) a glitch and HADES wasn't a rouge AI, just a AI trying to do it's job (kill everything) and then it was nice lead that it may have been released by some mysterious force which we thought were the Zeniths......only to then have it be that they are being hunted by what is obstensibly a rouge AI who wants to kill all humans.

While I feel the Far Zeniths were a bit too....rushed in Forbidden West, it is a interesting contrast. HZD was basically, Cavemen with Robo dinos. BUT the zeniths seemingly represent what society could have easily turned into if Apollo wasn't deleted (though who knows with most of the previous inhabitants being dead may have helped them not screw up things as bad as they did) and while the citizens of various tribe's aren't all perfect they at least seem to have a lot better number of morally/ethically good people then the Far Zentihs. Showing the necessity of tech but not necessarily the need for over abundance.

They're not modern humans, they're ancient.

"Gaia version 6.9" Nice. Lmao

1:30:08 hehe fuck you Sylens 1:31:01 HELL YEAH ALOI

the far Zenith for the rich people of the 31st century back at Earth, they willingly abandoned it to the ship and they went to the planet serious, many of the far Zeniths Sought a different kind of immortality,

CARRIE ANNE MOSSSSSSSSSSSSS

god it must be fun to be a zenith, they do have very cool powers

The Julius is a reference to fallout new Vegas, more specifically yes man. The lead writer of horizon was the lead writer on fallout new vegas

Bruh I can't watch this I didn't finish the game yet

12:41 im trying to figure out what he meant by "VR" i mean ik it means virtual reality but like HOW DOES VR EXIST IN 3021???

Love your work, but I can't hear anything.

There isn't audio!

36:38 hell yeah Aloi

Me (after years of stasis like Futurama): Tell me secrets you know, like the ones of old. Alva: From what I have gathered, a man Logan Paul was heavily influenced by our people by through his wondrous works. He was described as benevolent and wise that we continue to worship Him as our Savior, a god in human form. Me: Yeah, about that....

The audio isn't playing on cell

Takes the idea of illegal aliens to a whole new intergalactic level!

cowards..

17:45 I’m new to the Horizon community, but I hope “Beta” is jokingly referred to as “B”loy. Also two redhead twins who are wicked smart? That reminds me of something…

man, an EMP or 10 would have fixed SO many problems. Could have rebuilt the electrical in less than 100 years and killed AI in the process....