Such an interesting narrative choice. You spend the whole game trying to find out how Elisabet stopped the Faro plague only to find out that she didn't. Despite all the best efforts, they failed and earth fell. And yet there is hope, a light flung into the future. This game is something else
@@willy2374 Yeah Kinda? as only those in the know knew that Zero Dawn wasn't a weapon to fight the faro plague but a plan to restart after extinction.. even in Forbidden West you can hear with the black box recordings that those flying the bombers thought Zero Dawn was a weapon that would help them win the battle.
The moment I heard this game is coming to Pc, I utilized blocktube to keep out the spoilers. I am so glad I did, because this was so good to experience first hand.
Random Person: So you want to create your own God? Elisabet: Isn’t that what humanity already did thousands of times already Edit: This came from the film Transcendence, if your still confused as everyone else is in the reply section just watch the lecture scene and that’ll explain it
The Fero Plague wasn't an AI. It was a very VERY rudimentary program designed to use nano-bots to harvest organic material to produce fuel for war machines. The problem was the program got a glitch, a one in a million error. Some programmer misinput a period in the wrong place, just one little . . And since Fero wanted 0 back door weakness they couldn't get into the broken program to fix it. The Plague couldn't think, or calculate. It just consumed. And then turned on anyone trying to stop it and made them into fuel too. Horizon is just as much about hope and the human spirit to survive and overcome as it is a lesson on mankind's hubris.
Horizon Forbidden West explains what happened. (Spoiler) The ancestors of the Far Zenith project survived and triggered the extinction code to wake Hades up. So that they could wipe all life on earth out in order to start over and build earth to their specifications using Gaia. Plus at the same time the reason the Faro robots went rogue was because Ted Faro experimented with malicious viruses that would corrupt other robots and it backfired and ended up corrupting his own robots.
@@1nkf4ng57 Though I agree with you that the objective of the swarm was to consume any organic matter on their path and multiply their numbers, some records of the time found througout Zero Dawn and Forbidden West point out to a certain level of intelligence at play. For instance, they could detect humans presence through radio signals and whatnot and attack them, perhaps due to some sense of self preservation . They could also hack into a planes's systems and cause it to nose dive towards the ground, for instance. So they weren't by any means at the level of Hades but the swarm wasn't trotting about aimlessly either.
MY SUGGESTION IDEA FOR ALL 3 (HORIZON) VIDEO-GAMES: I would like this VideoGame (HORIZON: ZERO DAWN) story come to life, as the first chapter to computer-animated series, and the title to it might be titled as (HORIZON: THE FUTURE’S PROBLEMS). To add then have the second VideoGame installment of (HORIZON 2: FORBIDDEN WEST) made into the 2nd. chapter to it. And then much later have the recent 3rd. installment, that’s titled (HORIZON 3: CALL OF THE MOUNTAIN) made into the third chapter to the computer-animated show series of (HORIZON).
@@UtubeH8tr , mostly the approach goes towards making more realistic characters. And of course, it depends of the character. Aloy is not meant to be attractive or sexy. There are many other games to look for that.
I agree on some level with the destruction of apollo. If you're going to restart, you really should restart. It's just that the idea came from the very person who caused the whole thing, which made it quite controversial...
I am not am emotional person. Even though I enjoy movies and games, they rarely excert any level of emotion in me. Even the best works of art fail to trigger anything in me. But holy fucking shit, this cut-scene really moves me a lot.
Right? Like this game got me to really think about how unique the concept of life. Not just intelligent life but the concept of a biosphere and how utterly unique that is in the universe. Life only really exists on this earth and should be protected.
We always focus on how bad our world is, but if cut came to chase, and our world would face mass extinction... God... That would not only be sad, it would be horrendous. Not only all of human history and our achievements, everything we've learned about this world, all our music, art, our language, our ways of living, our beautiful countries, animals and other life forms will be gone forever too. And who knows if there is another planet with intelligent life Form out there in the vast universe. Probably. But they will have never known us. It really does show you how everything comes to an end, and nothing really matters if no one is there to remember it.
@@Orangecatenergy I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but that's exactly what we face with climate change. It may occur far slower then something like the Faro Plague and not quite as all encompassing down to the very bacteria, but higher order intelligent life is no less threatened. People who think we'll just technology our way out really aren't paying attention to the full depth and breadth of the problems we face.
That moment when you see the spire and robots in the presentation and suddenly the mysteries of Aloy's world start to unravel themselves really is something special.
I totally get you, it its filled with emotion...because what for the entire game was a mistery its is finally unveiled, and whats more. You discover it with Aloy at the same time.
In the game up to that point you think that WE aka the old ones found a way to avert the apokolypse. It created hope to avert it again just be repeating whatever we did ... by using the super weapon of the old ones. Just imagine the emotional throwback if you realize that they didn't succeed and that they all died ... mostly in a horrible way.
Asphyxiation would have been kind compared to the reality. Asphyxiation suggests lack of oxygen, which wasn’t the case, there was still plenty of oxygen in the atmosphere. So unless they had a special suit like Elisabet, or were in secure bunkers, and the robots didn’t get them, most would die from exposure to toxic chemicals in the air, released during the fighting.
A true masterpiece of storytelling in which both the horrific apocalypse of one thousand years in the past is just as compelling and riveting as the current sroryline in which this game takes place. I would love to see a short series or movies that fleshed out the final days prior to zero dawn. An animated series would probably be the way to go because of the heavy use of robotics as the enemy. Just my humble opinion......
To be honest, I dont think it will be very different. Huuuuge amount of war and some improvement every now and then, only true loss here is the progress in scientific fields and world knowledge that must start from almost zero...
@@jesseberg3271 I was actually able to get one back in October! My cousin helped secure one for me. I paid 600, but that’s for helping me out and to cover the taxes. Now I patiently await this, Elden Ring and Gran Turismo 7 in the next couple of months.
@@jesseberg3271 keep trying! The restocks are happening more frequently, I’ve noticed. Just keep checking Twitter or some RU-vid channels also update on restocks too. I’m also trying to get a Series X, it’s definitely hard.
Wouldn't it be fitting for Sobeck to have predicted Teds selfish act of removal of APOLLO? I like to think she put another copy in the trinket she held in her hand, for aloy to find and discover the culture of the old ones.
But the show has to end with *1000 years later* "Elizabet. This message is to inform you of an unforseen and catastrophic anomaly" as we see Rost journeying with the infant aloy on their way to the naming ritual. The final shot is Rost rasing her up lion king style and shouting her name to the mountains. "In you, all things are possible"
It annoys me that the devs gave Gaia's codebreaking subfunction the roman name when every other the Greek name. Also I think it should have been called Hermes, and the knowledge one called Athena.
the system of Gaia is perfect and this is possible just in case our planet end up dying iin the future or nuclear devastation this will be our hope for life not ending human and animals everything
Was scanning through this for a tentative list of all possible cradles based on what we can see in this holo, and I think I've got 13, including the four explicitly mentioned (Nora Homeland, Mt. Namuni, Xinjiang, and France/Switzerland)
@@LupusGelos but the point is, the robots would stay active while there was still any organic material left on Earth, so they'd all converge on where people were
It's funny how the majority of the gaming community and even some other game developers made fun of the "robot dinosaur game" back when it was first revealed. Then the game went on and delivered one of the most incredible stories in the gaming history, with an even better sequence after.
I'd assume it would either A: take care of the system it created, B: go do something else, C: If the Apollo system worked, then the humans would probably eventually shut her down. D: There is no reason for humans just using GAIA to just make whatever we wanted/needed, E: She might decide humans suck and just try and kill us all eventually, F: Might devise a plan to change humans into some more "reasonable" to it when we start to pollute too much. Hard to predict what an actual AI would do. A true AI is unpredictable, but in general I would assume that an AI like this would attempt to exert some pressure on humanity to do as it wishes, and seeing how strong it is humanity would comply. This would eventually lead to conflict. It would be interesting to see what would happen.
@@kruk_7279 You think of an AI as something you can predict. The way it would think would be completely alien to us, not to mention way faster. Cant predict something you cant understand.
This game is magnificent. I love speculative science fiction. This specific speech given by Dr. Sobeck thrilled me. Horizon Zero Dawn will always have a special place among the games I had the opportunity to play. Too bad the sequel, Forbidden West, couldn't have the same writing quality as the first. A great game, addictive, but left something to be desired in this regard.
SPOILER . . . . . . . . . . . Funny how Ted Faro purged Apollo fearing that the future generations might repeats the old one's mistakes. For sure, the world of the old ones was imperfect, but still it was destroyed by the action of a single man: Faro himself. It would've made more sense just to pure himself, no? Or be purged anyway.
His bullshit about "repeating our mistakes" is just a made up reason to delete Apollo. The truth is, he didn't want future generations to learn he was the biggest scumbag/idiot in human history.
He used "starting over" as a justification to erase his genocide of humanity from history. It's crystal clear, if not from the first game, then definitely from his tomb in the second, that the man was an ego maniac. It must have KILLED him to think future generations would spit on his name so he rationalized himself into making sure it wouldn't happen with "think of the children" moralizing.
Our own bias while playing the game makes us want to believe such a thing is possible. But if even bacteria is wiped out, a lot of life isn't even possible. Not all bacteria is harmful - some of it is necessary for life. Re-establishing life on earth in just a few hundred years? Newp. But the music sells it well. I enjoyed the game - waiting for the sequel.
