HORNBY HM7000: will fit in a Hornby class 08, will it work on the z21? 

Ahhhh thank you, so glad you enjoyed it. You are so right, see the 08 creeping over those points was so rewarding.

I was sceptical, but it sounds and performs very well especially with the powerpack

Hi, thank you. I just wanted to take a different angle. The thought of having to control one loco differently to the others was disturbing, so needed to test it would work solely on DCC also.

@@piccadillymodelrailways I think I will be in the same boat (for use with existing DCC), and look forward to what loco options will be added to the roster in future 👍

Ha ha ha, you and your ideas Allan, no doubt it will involve the scooby doo van and the vicar’s wife, lol. Honestly I was skeptical, but the idea of £75 sound decoder, with stay alive, is too good to miss. Its amazing, the 08 going over points slower than a snail sold to me, along with the sound quality. I wanna get more when more sound files are there.

Thank you! Cheers!

Bless you Danny glad you liked it.

Hi, oh dear, the model is definitely 8 pin, if yours is the same. The cab comes off and the control panel will too, just be careful might break easily. The gaps are big enough to fit through the decoder. Hoping that’s helpful

Hi Steve, good to hear from you. Hru? I think the the HM7000 decoders are great. Certainly great investment. May I ask how you are powering the track? Are you using a DC controller? I’ve heard people are having issues with decoders burning out. If you use DC power you’ll need a Hornby 240v power adapter. Little Wicket Railway did a good video on this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tQhaF8tc2Ek.html

I’m good thanks John. I have also picked up the Hornby 15v power transformer to be on the safe side. I think the 7000 kit is a game changer. I cancelled an order for the Powercab dcc system in favour of the free 7000 app and this Bluetooth kit.

Good for you! Itll be good to see how you get on. Maybe you could a video showing the hornby app with the 15v DC controller?

Yes, I agree. on initial findings it appears they are on a winner here. Ofc there will be a few teething problems to sort out.

@@piccadillymodelrailways ...a nd thanks to this video, I've discovered kapton tape! :-)

Lol, yes that’s good stuff too. Just try not to touch much of the sticky bit the grease in our fingers can affect the stickiness.

Yes go for it, £60-75 sound decoder with stay alive unbelievable.

@@piccadillymodelrailways Bargain and ideal for the class 08

Hi Robert, yes its certainly impressive. Yes sounds like it should work on the DR5000 without issue and therefor itrains. That’ll be good to see. The 08 is a short wheelbase loco so the powerpack has brought it to life, amazing performance, if you saw the last running shots creeping over point without fail. The A1 sound is available, and Im sure it will help your A1. Hopefully all aspects will fit inside.

Robert I will be interested in your testing re running with iTrains. Im guessing you will do a video.

@@dallasthomas9298 Hi Dallas, Yes I would think so but could be a while as the app is not out yet so will leave it until it is and see if that works ok as does the iphone one. Then see if hornby can supply me with it. Cheers Robert.

Hi, thank you for the vote of confidence, much appreciated. Sadly I don’t share designs, as I did so in the past, rather made model for people FREE inc PP, only to have them complain, sell the items, just bung them in a drawer and forget them or just break the item. So I just don’t any more. Hattons made a OO gauge RHTT, I’ve got one. Not a bad model, might be worth seeing you can find one. Of course you may enjoy the process of making your own. I do. Wish you well with your build.

Hi, you can change the address in either app, but if you do set the address or any CV on DCC , then switch it back to the hornby app for whatever reason. The hornby app will revert all CVs as per the Hornby app, unless you change them. This is my experience with the decoder.

Hi, if it works, got to be good. The body of the HORNBY 08 just slides off with slight wiggling. I don’t have a Bachmann one so can’t comment on that version.

Absolutely, it’s all down to space. I found the power pack was the making of the 08, and that needed careful placing. Worth a try if you can get it to work and sound file is available.

Hi, yes it would be interesting to see that. Might be worth comparing the space available. Ive never had a Bachmann 08 Im afraid.

I got it into the Bachmann 08, but only just. Had to mount the chip vertically at the front of the loco, and the speaker had to go in the cab. Not fitted a stay alive and not sure if there’s room for it. If you’ve no stay alive your track needs to be spot on… which mine is not! But that’s no fault of the chip at all.

See how it goes.

Hi Dave, yes I soooooo happy with it, sounds great and runs like a dream, especially with the powerpack. Yes the powerpack is what hornby call the stay-alive, but its hornby’s own with the plug which fits straight into the decoder. They are super-capacitors and hold a lot of charge, but you cannot use any stay-alive or there is a risk of blowing both the decoder and the powerpack. The powerpacks are quite pricy, but the results are plain to see. If it works on an 08, it should work on any, providing it fits inside. At some point I want to fit the pecketts with such. There’s a challenge, lol

@@piccadillymodelrailways Have you tried fitting stay alive to any of your n gauge Locos?

No, I did the hornby one as it was plug and play, but not sure on others. I know if you get it wrong the whole lot could go bang.

Hi, those magnetic couplings came with the Chaldron wagons as tension lock would be massive on them. Accurascale ‘do’ sell them separately, BUT they’ve been out of stock for ages that why I did my own. The home made version is cheap but VERY fiddly. I’m guessing accurascale will restock but I think they were £11… for 6 or 8. Hoping that’s sort of helpful.

Hi, you can get an N gauge RHTT from shapeways. www.shapeways.com/product/BPGMVKM2D/fea-b-rail-head-treatment-train-v1-0

Hi, hornby advise NOT. There have been decoder failures from DC units as the voltage varies. You would need a DCC controller. I use Z21, and it runs beautifully. It’s really easy to switch from Bluetooth running to DCC.

Hi, hornby never wrap their decoders, but easy job with the capton tape.

Hi, I looked at each function on the hornby app, then go to the z21, (I fortunately have two ipads). I go to the main page/ vehicles. Bottom left press ‘+’ then loco. Press Data. Input address, name, mph/ kph speed steps. Then press ‘functions’. You will see C1 / 2 & 3. On C1, you have each function position. Press first. Choose your first function from hornby app. Put in the function address, switch/push button or time, name your function, choose an appropriate symbol. That’s the first. Its then a case of going through each sound one by one copying the functions to the from the hornby app. There is no way, sadly, of copy/paste functionality into z21, you literally copy each function into z21. See how you get on. I have done z21 videos in the past. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pX-LByAwYXU.html. It MAY be helpful. Just say if you get stuck.

@@piccadillymodelrailways cheers John. Thanks for your support.

Hi, if you download the hornby app, they are listed there, but should be on their website too. Atm both HST sounds (valenta and MTU), 31, 73, 66, 08, 56 and steam: S15, A1/3, A4, P2, Coronation, britania, 2P, 9f, merchant navy and black 5. Hoping that helps. I think many more are coming, but not sure when.

Hi David the z21. This is a controller by ROCO, and it can be app controlled, PC and there is a handset available separately too. Hope that’s helpful

Ok thanks

Thank you, yes Im amazed by that, especially over 3 points.