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Hornby Standard class 4MT. Replacement loco, just as bad? 

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@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Hi all, as an update, I am well annoyed, the loco has failed again, clearly with motor issues. Can't now send it back due to the restrictions on us all. Am going to do some extensive testing and see if I can establish the route cause of this.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Full strip down of motor showed it has been wrongly assembled,
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 4 года назад
Looking good Mike - this one seems much better, surprised to see the inconsistency with these; mine was absolutely swimming in lubricant, to the point I was concerned about it flooding the motor! Thanks for sharing, Sam :)
@mytinplaterailway
@mytinplaterailway 4 года назад
You also had glue marks, broken bits and the window out. Not good.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Thanks Sam, yes the bottom plate was flooded on mine, maybe the lube just runs down there in transit?
@Shauniboy1984
@Shauniboy1984 2 года назад
I tried to buy this model twice, both times it turned up smashed to pieces from different places so got the latest Bachmann version instead. Now Im hearing of motor problems Im even more pleased about my brand switch - great video
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 2 года назад
Lol yes you were lucky.
@LaytonJunction
@LaytonJunction 4 года назад
nice video mike stay safe in these uncertain times and keep entertaining us the hobby will be more important than ever in the coming weeks all the best al 👍😁👍👍👍👍
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Many thanks Al, you to
@ericscotsman7253
@ericscotsman7253 2 года назад
Looking Good!!! 👍🏻 And by the way, It looks like Braveheart No.75014 from Dartmouth Steam Railway!!
@gs425
@gs425 4 года назад
Glad you got it sorted. Runs lovely. I think most modern steam have inside bearings on the tender instead of pin points, and with added friction from all the tender pic ups too it's common for tender wheels to drag somewhat. Have to say she looks lovely running now
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Thanks, yes a lovely looking thing
@andrewr2825
@andrewr2825 4 года назад
Do you remember the hassles you had Mike with your S15 from Hornby?! Déjà vu! I enjoy your videos and comments. I’ve still got 3 of these models made by Mainline years ago and still going strong - there’s no denying the Hornby model is good looking, but severely let down by the motor - again. As others had mentioned- over lubed, under lubed, all very inconsistent. There is one benefit, if there has to be one during this Covid-19 outbreak and like the UK, at this time here in Australia it’s a “soft lockdown”, is that we get more time with our trains! May good health reign amongst you and your subscribers!👍🏻
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Oh yes I'll never forget that, this looked to be going the exact same way. Yes I still have my Mainline class 4 and yes still runs well. Thanks for the good wishes, same back to you
@MrKlf1956
@MrKlf1956 4 года назад
Fingers crossed!
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Very shaky times with it still
@trainsontuesday
@trainsontuesday 4 года назад
I think that some of Hornby's locos should be sold without motors as "display" models. It looks beautiful but...... Also the drag from the poor tender wheel bearings is really unacceptable. I won' be buying this one. Thanks Mike and a great Covid 19 message. David.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Many thanks David, yeah I am very unhappy with the tender drag, nothing fixes it.
@peteraspinall3355
@peteraspinall3355 2 года назад
Here is a tip. RE: Your Wera crank pin bolt tool (for speedo cable and other valve gear bolts) SW 2.5. Notice that the bolt develops a flat on the corners and does nor remain pristine? That is because the socket head of the Wera (and most other brands) are slightly concave on the inside at the end. Solution : Use a diamond file (or ward file ) across end of the Wera socket to remove the concave. The socket will then fit snugly over the bolt and no more slippage or rounded corners. Works perfectly for me every time. Also Hornby produce a removal tool for Electric tender plug for extraction and insertion. Part no:X6468. (Approx £8.00 eBay) You may want to show the results and share your findings. Regards Peter
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 2 года назад
Thanks Peter some interesting tips there
@peteraspinall3355
@peteraspinall3355 2 года назад
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited no problem. Just makes the hobby that bit more enjoyable. A couple more: Use "black tack" to secure wires to chassis instead of super glue. It is easy to remove for servicing. I also discovered Ever Build super glue remover. It's cheap, and a few drops on plastic parts that have been fouled by super glue will come up like new with leaving it on for 10 mins and gently rubbing with a cotton bud (QTip) .It doesn't seem to harm the plastic at all (but don't leave it on all day 🥴). May need a few applications with gentle rubbing but results are very pleasing. Clean plastic parts with water afterwards. Before discovering this wonder stuff I virtually destroyed the finish trying to get the glue off!! Regards Peter
@peteraspinall3355
@peteraspinall3355 2 года назад
NB. Works on old set Superglue🙂
@MDHGames
@MDHGames 4 года назад
Hornby make some superb models but its the build quality and quality control that lets them down! Thankfully i've had no issues with them before but so many others have! They really need to improve their quality control instead of customers having to fix, repair or even send back their models!
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
You are spot on there, thanks
@slee3382
@slee3382 2 года назад
New hornby have to much detail think they have forgotten these locomotives are for running and not for show hornby would be better going back to the original models with less cost i only collect 70.s 80.s hornby it is becoming harder for people to afford the new models nearly a weeks wages enjoyed your video always nice to watch people interested in the same hobby.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 2 года назад
I agree, many thanks for the support
@timsytanker
@timsytanker 4 года назад
I’ve just bought a Bachmann 24/1. That has little ‘notches’ on most of the wheels and it needed a good lubrication on axels and worms as it was bone dry on arrival.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Bad show really isn't it, wonder what these notches are? not seen them before
@timsytanker
@timsytanker 4 года назад
Model Railways Unlimited I’ve had them on a couple of new release locos just recently. No idea why they are there, manufacturing fault?
@tulyar1043
@tulyar1043 4 года назад
Thank you for replying this video. Once again Hornby''s design office is so inconsistent. The J15 has a large flywheel each end of its motor, the latest Duchess pacific which is supposedly the flagship model of their range does not and runs so much worse than the J15. This means Hornby and probably Bachmann as well are making their products down to a price and not up to a standard. This is why American outline locos run so much better than UK outline and all of them have a flywheel drive.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
I have noticed that, very odd, thanks for watching
@lescalverley8335
@lescalverley8335 2 года назад
Would have sent that model straight back to Mr Kohler at Hornby.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 2 года назад
Indeed, but would not have one
@jameshardy4354
@jameshardy4354 4 года назад
And to get spares fore modern hornby locomotives is hard
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
It can be but new motors can be sourced for around £2 on ebay.
@tonybarfield5148
@tonybarfield5148 4 года назад
Mike, interesting video, as I expect from you. From what supplier did you get the special crank pin removal tool. Hornby do also have a special tool for removal of the locomotive wiring socket which goes into the tender. Reference no X6468, which I obtained from Hatton's of Widnes.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Many thanks Tony, I can't recall or find details now, I'll keep looking and update if I find out
@pss1967
@pss1967 4 года назад
Hi Mike, Hope you get this resolved. I know that you've experienced problems with some Hornby models previously and it must be very frustrating. However, I'm pretty confident that the retailer concerned will be able to repair the loco's motor or refund you. Paul
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Hi Paul, I have contacted them and I am sure they will, however with us all in lock down now there is no hope of sending it back, however I have been right inside and discovered the motor brushes had been miss fitted, there may be too much damage as a result but I have tried to repair.
@letzterinstanz
@letzterinstanz 4 года назад
Very interesting, Mike. Faulty motors? Keep us informed. Many thanks.........Reinhard
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Thanks, yes it does seem like it, I partly removed the back plate of the motor then reset it, its now running ok, wonder if this reset the brushes or removed an impurity?
@thebibletrain8297
@thebibletrain8297 4 года назад
Thanks for this video After watching this. I’ll never purchase one of these things. Yikes.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Thanks, sad to hear but understand, mine is finally running ok, but its crap that a brand new model has to have such efforts to get to this.
@thebibletrain8297
@thebibletrain8297 4 года назад
Model Railways Unlimited,,,,, the loco is so beautiful it’s unfortunate, I not one to be taking tiny things apart, I have doubts I could fix the problem. Thank you and be safe 😁
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 4 года назад
I'm done with hornby 4 products purchased since January 3 have failed and other issues back through the years !!
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Oh my, that is terrible to hear
@rustykilt
@rustykilt 3 года назад
Maybe HORNBY are concentrating on making attractive display models as it appears reliability and workmanship are failing.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 3 года назад
You'd think so sometimes, however I will say that here in the UK they will bend over backwards to help, my S15 being a point in case
@MikesMovies
@MikesMovies 4 года назад
3:42 notice the handrail on one side of the tender was missing from out of the box!!!!
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
fixed :)
@marksinthehouse1968
@marksinthehouse1968 4 года назад
Still a case of rip off Britain ,why should you have these problems on a model you pay a lot for ,thanks for this posting
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 4 года назад
Yeah I agree,
@rustykilt
@rustykilt 3 года назад
Again, HORNBY fails with sub standard or faulty performance....
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 3 года назад
Yes, a very frustrating problem, been fine since the new motor
@jameshardy4354
@jameshardy4354 4 года назад
Hornby locos great on the out side rubbish mechanically
@vikingsmb
@vikingsmb 4 года назад
They used to be decent mechanically when they were tender driven with ringfields (and could pull alot more) but now its all can motors which u cant service and cant pull the skin off a rice pudding.
@jameshardy4354
@jameshardy4354 4 года назад
@@vikingsmb you carnt oil the gears we have to go the hornby because bachmann etc don't make every class of locomotive I have a hornby duchess it gears keep slipping and I have a b17 that keeps speeding up and slowing down 😡😡
@vikingsmb
@vikingsmb 4 года назад
@@jameshardy4354 you can oil the gears on tender driven locos, but only lightly though, personally I use gaugemaster oil,
@jameshardy4354
@jameshardy4354 4 года назад
@@vikingsmb you carnt oil gears on modern hornby locomotives is what I ment 👍
@vikingsmb
@vikingsmb 4 года назад
@@jameshardy4354 no worries, you can only on the gears and on the bearings, but they are a pain in the backside. but i prefer to use hornby ringfields and lima ones.
@mrhearse777
@mrhearse777 2 года назад
buy a Tripod ! Solve the interruptions .
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 2 года назад
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