my parents owned a carpet business AND a janitorial business. THAT WAS 20YRS AGO. they did NOT advocate water cleaning of any sort (steam converts to water once it hits the carpet) and all of the water cannot be extracted. soap leaves sticky residue that attracts dirt, especially in high traffic areas. this causes you to need to clean the carpet more often, which then wears out the carpet, shortening the life of it. they believed in the host system so much that they bought their own machine and still use it AFTER they sold the business. you don't just throw it down then brush and vacuum right away. you treat the room and or rooms, brush each one(if just one, let product sit 25-30 minutes) and then vacuum up. if more rooms, let sit as you finish each room then go back to vacuum where you first started and go in order. they recommend and still use host. they've used host for over 30yrs now.
First off thanks for your comment. According to scientific studies conducted by the IICRC ( the world's governing body for cleaning and restoration professionals) a good commercial prevacuuming removes 80% of the dry soil. Not only is that science it makes sense in practice. Test a small indoor mat, most but not all the loose soil will be removed by a thorough vacuuming. My understanding of cellulose is that it is made of sawdust. Is that not correct? The dry cleaning residue is a dry particulate residue that is not consistent with the definition of cleaning which is "to remove foreign matter from a surface". That's the whole point. Hot water extraction is so popular because it is the most effective method. If you are local I would be happy to come and clean side by side with you so you can compare the results. Thanks and have a great day.
+Clean 'n Dry LLC don't know if I'm local to you. but it does stand to reason that if you can vacuum it up and be clean before HOST, it'd be clean after HOST. I believe HOST does have cellulose as the binder, but it is not what cleans the carpet or the particulate attracting. there are cleaners that are "dry" chemicals that attract, bind, and encapsulate dirt. once vacuumed, the surface is dry and ready to be used. with a high powered commercial vacuum you can achieve great results. wet carpet can soak the pad, and a wand used for extracting still can't get all that water out of the pad.
At best good vacuums can only remove 80% of the particulate soil, so you are adding to the soil load even if it is "still cleaning", wet cleaning would never wet the pad unless you were flushing pet spots (which you can't do with dry powder) unless something was horribly wrong. It seems like you are trying to compare the worst parts of one method with the best parts of another. They both have benefits and things which you wish you could improve. I was told for a long time steam cleaning was bad especially in a basement because it can take forever to dry. When I started actually using the method I realized they weren't talking about what I was doing. Thanks for your interest. Keep an open mind and keep growing.
@@cleanndry It sounds like you need to get a Royal or Riccar This was the worst demonstration I have ever seen. I’ve been using host since 1988 And first of all you don’t just dump a little bit of host and run the machine for two seconds. I used to sub out steam cleaning but every other call was a complaint, unless you live in Arizona by the desert you have the potential for mold spores with steaming. Pet stains become a disaster with steam cleaning. If you’re going to do a demonstration you need to know the facts.
@@dryconnectioncleaningservi5327 thanks for your comment. It was just a quick demonstration to give people the idea. We don't live in Arizona and we don't have moisture problems. Pet problems can only be taken care of by flushing all the yuck out. Blessings
I see a lot of comment saying if steam cleaning is done right well the problem is when you begin to do more and more jobs per day usually between five and eight. There is no way for you to get the clean that you are talking about because they are going to fast. Also when you leave behind water you also leave behind dirt and soap. Who is cleaning the dirt that you left behind in the water that you left in the carpet. When you continue to vacuum the host is removed from the carpet by the customer even if there is some left in the carpet and host is a green product it does not damage the carpet in anyway .
Michael, first off thanks for the comment. There is no way you could know how we operate, unless you have used our services. Our equipment is very fast because we use rotary jet extractors and they are equipped with custom manufactured glides for maximum suction. You are correct that remaining water does leave behind water and residues of cleaning solutions. There is very little of it, and the vast majority just simply evaporates. As I mention in the video I wouldn't feel comfortable adding a soil load to the building, even if it continued to "clean". If you were in my town I would offer to clean a job with you and you could see for yourself. Have a great day, keep your mind open and keep learning. All the best. Matt
First off thanks for your comment. Second, as you can imagine, I meant no disrespect to you or anyone else. I was doing a simple demonstration of a cleaning method. According to scientific studies conducted by the IICRC ( the world's governing body for cleaning and restoration professionals) a good commercial prevacuuming removes 80% of the dry soil. Not only is that science it makes sense in practice. Test a small indoor mat, most but not all the loose soil will be removed by a thorough vacuuming. My understanding of cellulose is that it is made of sawdust. Is that not correct? I bought the machine from a Host dry cleaning company in our town that went out of business. The commercial vacuum we purchased on line. I'm sorry to hear the disrespect in your tone, none was intended to you or anyone else. The Host residue is a dry particulate residue that is not consistent with the definition of cleaning which is "to remove foreign matter from a surface". That was my point. I'm not in charge of the methods the mills approve, I do know that they have conducted scientific experiments with xray type equipment to calculated how much residue is left after cleaning. Host didn't make the grade apparently. Strange I never thought of myself as Batman, I will take that as a compliment. The glue used in the carpet construction is behind the back. Normal cleaning never goes where the glue is. Try a spot for yourself. I'm glad you cleaned back in the day. I started out bonnet cleaning myself, however, as time has gone on I have dabbled with all the cleaning methods and come to the same conclusion as the scientists. We use hot water extraction because it cleans the best and leaves the least residue. Thanks for your comments and enjoy the rest of your day, sir. Affectionately yours for the Joy of Cleaning Matt
"a good commercial prevacuuming removes 80% of the dry soil" -- you mean with a sensor type vac, not a pile lifting/vac machine. You are saying, by the way, that encapsulation of any variety will end with 20% of the soil remaining in the carpet because no vacuuming can pick up the last 20%. (FYI a good hot water extraction will at best pick up what, 75% of the moisture -- which means 25% stays, along with whatever dirt is in solution -- not to mention the other dirt that never got into solution.) "My understanding of cellulose is that it is made of sawdust. Is that not correct?" -- no, not correct. Cellulose = (from Wikipedia, so you know its accurate!): Cellulose is the most abundant organic polymer on Earth. The cellulose content of cotton fiber is 90%, that of wood is 40-50% and that of dried hemp is approximately 57%. Sawdust is made of cellulose, is what you probably meant to say. Host claims their cellulose is designed to be a great "sponge" -- already wet with mostly treated water and other agents. Your demo shows a little cloud of powdery puff -- evidence that you either had dried-out product -- was it Host? -- or some other stuff. Also you indicate that the "powder" (inaccurate term) is supposed to be "sprinkled" on the carpet -- also not true. You do yourself a disservice setting up your competition this way.
U need to extract the host with either a Liberator or a Freestyle machine. Hot water extraction is wrought with problems including but not limited to encouraging mold/mildew. Host, used properly, helps to eradicates the aforementioned and wreaks no havoc on the carpeting.
+Bob Boldt Thanks for your input. Please note the comment I made previously and the effectiveness of hot water extraction. It doesn't encourage mold when properly done.
just want tosay that when done properly wet and dry clean carpet just like you dont put a 500 doller suit in the washing machine regardless of the method the CUSTOMER chooses its about honestyand integrity . and there is enough carpet for hard working honest cleaners to to a good service to the community wet or dry no need to put down one or the other
Simply put the whole system does much more for the carpet then any wit system and it does not damage the fibers and the product is green. There is no way to beat me cleaning with any wet system if I'm using host. I've been cleaning for 32 years there is nothing that eliminates the negatives in carpet cleaning more then host.
Michael, I'm glad you are confident in your system. Since we can't meet head to head, we'll just have to leave it at that. Thanks for your comments and interest. Sincerely Matt
Iv seen many of my competitors put out videos discrediting encap cleaning. Saying things like you wouldn't leave shampoo in your hair after you shower would you? Then the minute they run into a wool rug 1800- call- jeff. The encap guy and last time I checked what is wool manufactured from? steel or grass oh wait sheep hair.
I use this product at my work and it does not work the carpets look the same after I'm done it does not get spots out you have to go back afterwards and get the spots out by hand but I do want to know what's the effects on using it and then adding water after you've used it it's a sponge right so doesn't sponge absorb water making it attract the dirt instead of repellent the reason I say this is because I work at a hotel with people coming to the elevators and Lobby soaking wet from the pool right after I just got done using host
Thats not how u use host. one pass with the machine is useless. your told to go north to south then east to west several times and leave for 10 mins minimum before you vac it up. I used Host 100,s of times commercially and its the real deal. I no longer have the same job but when i clean my carpets i hire a host machine and buy a bag of host.
Ok first off according to this according to that great and dandy I'm an IICRC certified tech I have take the classes talked to instructors however real world totally different. If you have taken a class through the IICRC whom are they hosted by???? Masterblend prochem etc you think there will be 0 bias . oh hey encapsulation is better then steam cleaning said a instructor from master blend. that wont impact the sale of my truck mounts????
Try using a Windsor/Karcher Versamatic instead of a Sensor, you can manually set the adjustment lower. Your at the mercy of the Sensor for carpet height adjustment and I've never found the Sensor to go deep enough. I use a Sebo Mechanical for residential and a Windosor Versamatic for Commercial jobs. I would never use a Sensor or Sebo Automatic. Also: In this video You never let the Host dry for the full hour. I never saw you use a pre-spray with dwell time either. I own a carpet cleaning company, I do a ton of work, and I use ALL methods. You misled your viewers when referring to "accepted methods by the mills". You never mentioned that Host is certified by the CRI...hmmm Hostnis a great product if used correctly with good equipment.
Good god people never ever use this method on your carpets it will destroy your carpet I’ve been steam cleaning for 25 years never had a problem but I have done carpets that had this method done and my filter was full of saw dust and that was after about a year after they resident had it done she even said she was getting it out when she vacuumed
IT WOULD BE IF YOU DID RIGHT 1ST YOU VACUUM THEN SPRAY TRAFFIC LANE CLEANER (PRESPRAY) IF YOU ENCAP CHEM WORKS BEST THEN THE HOST POWDER THEN VACUUM IT UP BY USING ENCAP CHEM WOULD PULL UP MORE PRODUCT AND YOU PUT WAY TO MUCH DOWN . YOU MADE YOUR SELF LOOK VERY FOOLISH DO IT RIGHT OR NOT AT ALL
Ronnie, thanks for the comment. I was demonstrating a cleaning method. As I have mentioned in the other comments it works but not as well as hot water extraction. Wishing you a great day. Matt
Wait wait wait, what?!?! You're making a lot of bold claims that have no basis in reality. If you're watching this, please don't trust this man's assumptions about how Host works. Its a great cleaning system and it has been tested by more than one source that isn't connected to the manufacturer and these claims just aren't true. I'm going insane with where to even start to try to explain how wrong all of this is.
thanks for your comment. Just relax. I have personally experienced what I talked about in the video. Have you personally experienced something different? It's really cool when people can share their experiences and it's a help to others. Thank again and have a great day! Blessings
I'm a DIYer and have used Host for years, and it does a great job. I do have to vacuum the rugs more than once, but I do that anyway in the course of a week. I had to use a wet system last week, and it did as good a job, but the pain in the ass factor can't be understated. I had to change the water reservoir 13 times for a ten by ten room to get it clean. I would have done a couple of treatments with the Host system for the same room. So, yeah, not super simple, but 13 times back and forth to the sink to get freshwater/cleaner solution and dump the dirty water - way too much effort, but the water system did a good job ... just a huge PITA! I'll stick with the Host system if I can find one again :-(
Lmao horrible demo of using host. The left over host can not harm your carpet in anyway. Any wet method leaves behind water which damages the mat on your carpet and leaves a residue that attracts dirt. And what you had on the carpet was surely not host. Host residue is safe because it is an organic product that can not harm animals or humans when consumed. If your going to demonstrate something make sure to show the whole process. The full host process includes a pre vac then working the host in with a machine then vacuuming the host up with a freestyle or liberator and then doing a final vac with a regular vacuum.
+fg32 , Thanks for your comment. Again, please see the comment I made previously. It's interesting that your post is so similar to the others. Everything is already answered. Have a great day.
