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@jasongalloway4645
@jasongalloway4645 11 месяцев назад
Super stoked for this deck! At face value it seems to lack focus a bit, but I think it could be easily tuned to be a serious preformer.
@DeathEatsCurry
@DeathEatsCurry 11 месяцев назад
Worth noting that the army also becomes the creature type you're amassing (orcs in this case), allowing you to get zombie synergies by mixing it with the original amass.
@alexandercoffey5022
@alexandercoffey5022 11 месяцев назад
I surprisingly like how split the focus is. Fun variance and seems like it can go many different ways depending on how your first few turns go.
@veerkillerx
@veerkillerx 11 месяцев назад
I think the reason Subjugate the Hobbits doesn't take control of commanders is because it's referencing the "Scouring of the Shire" where Saruman goes ahead of the Heroes and basically enslaves the hobbits. It's thematic because none of the main heroes were there when it happened.
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 11 месяцев назад
The Black Gate is funny because if you have the most life it is just a bad swamp It is the 22nd gate for WUBRG gates tho. 13th gate for Nine-Fingers
@marshall4439
@marshall4439 11 месяцев назад
If you have the most life, then paying 3 life is actually a good thing :D
@TheAverageGuyTAG
@TheAverageGuyTAG 11 месяцев назад
I think that's fine, given that it is a land that taps for colored mana with upside and whose only condition to come in untapped is that it costs 3 life.
@graefx
@graefx 11 месяцев назад
I like the Sauron, my mental image is so influenced by the movies and by extension the games workshop game, Sauron is like 8 or 10 feet tall and just slaughtering everyone with a single swing, that he really aligns with that. Saruman is cool too. I just am such a sucker for "i bring a pet" cards since Urza. But I want a Nazgul deck so its Lord of the Nazgul for me. Just too bad I cant play the saga then. Or the mana rock for that matter. I wish there was a little more equipment and something more specifically for the Witch King or Sauron. The wizards staffs, a Nazgul sword, or a weapon for Sauron seems like a miss.
@alejocuruchet76
@alejocuruchet76 11 месяцев назад
Sauron's morningstar (not sure if its canon in the books) was massive and menacing in the opening battle in the movies, it'd have been an awesome equipment, auto attatch to legendaries, menace(or fear) and +×/+× where its mana value of the equiped creature!
@doors54
@doors54 11 месяцев назад
Just wanted to point out, Shelob's ability doesn't totally shutdown aristocrats, as they're not exiled *instead*, so they do still die, and therefore still trigger things like zulaport cutthroat and blood artist, but they won't stay there to be reanimated or anything like that.
@Npocommander
@Npocommander 11 месяцев назад
I love using evolving wilds and terramorphic expanse in 2 to 5 color decks helps you mana fix for your hand, also love the etb sack fetch from new cappena
@lukepeterson1893
@lukepeterson1893 11 месяцев назад
I love the Sauron precon and would love to see an upgraded pre-con using cards from the set!
@theonlyragnarok6737
@theonlyragnarok6737 11 месяцев назад
I am definitely getting this deck. Finally an official Amass commander! I am stoked!
@elohimttv5806
@elohimttv5806 11 месяцев назад
i think even Sauron, the Dark Lord would be a better commander for this Deck.
@SirLogos
@SirLogos 11 месяцев назад
Agreed. I dont like this commander. To expensive and not on ramp colors
@danielsniff6405
@danielsniff6405 11 месяцев назад
I like the main set Sauron more as well, since his abilities are more specific and easier to build around/exploit. But I would still keep the big boy version in the 99.
@notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyer
@notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyer 11 месяцев назад
@@SirLogos you do realise that he said he likes the face commander, right? Who am I kidding? Of course you don’t. You couldn’t even spell “too” right.
@percyvile
@percyvile 11 месяцев назад
Wizards probably do too, drives players to buy main set cards to upgrade their precon
@allx1048
@allx1048 11 месяцев назад
@@notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyerwho said who likes the face commander, no one does.
@mana_fiend
@mana_fiend 11 месяцев назад
As a Nazgul fan, i really want to build a Wraith deck with Lord of the Nazgul at the helm. I love that card.
@12jacobmar
@12jacobmar 11 месяцев назад
I love it! Im excited add ManaBarbs so whenever my opponents travel middle earth (tap lands) it pains them to try and get closer to me. 😅 yea i know it hurts me too but Mordor is a harsh place.
@altrivotzck6565
@altrivotzck6565 11 месяцев назад
I don't think Shelob actually stops aristocrats, because it says "When a creature an opponent controls dies, exile it" rather than "when a creature an opponent controls dies, exile it *instead* " which I'm pretty sure means that it doesn't stop death triggers. This is actually a good thing if you want Shelob, Dread Weaver in your Shelob, Child of Ungoliant deck, or else it'd be a nonbo.
@peachydls341
@peachydls341 11 месяцев назад
I picked this deck up last night at my lgs pre release. It was the last 1 on stock too lol. I'm going to piece it out and lean more into the orcs and goblins theme.
@DoctorCataclysm
@DoctorCataclysm 11 месяцев назад
I think they missed a huge flavor bit with Sauron not having Eminence. Something like "Whenever a Legendary ETBs or attacks Amass X" dunno what x should be but you get the point. That'd help make it worth the cost and be flavorful to the lore
@discocombo
@discocombo 11 месяцев назад
The thing about sauron is that he does his thing the instant he is cast which is good and once he is on the battlefield he is "only" a 9/9 trample creature with no effect, so okay he is a big threat but you are not reliant on him anymore and he does enough for 8 mana
@ARC--5973
@ARC--5973 11 месяцев назад
A cool piece of design for Sauron is that it's ability is a cast trigger, not an etb. That way, even if your 8 cmc commander gets counterspelled, you still get the value.
@adamj93
@adamj93 11 месяцев назад
I thought that was awesome too, especially since he can bring HIMSELF back to the battlefield. Countering him won't get you much of anything unless you really wanted to stop some other creature from coming back.
@ARC--5973
@ARC--5973 11 месяцев назад
@@adamj93 I didn't even realize that he could revive himself!
@GrahamFoxDelta
@GrahamFoxDelta 11 месяцев назад
Shelob does not really shut down aristocrat / sac decks. The exile is not a replacement effect, so creatures still die and then are exiled from the graveyard. So death triggers still happen.
@alejocuruchet76
@alejocuruchet76 11 месяцев назад
It doesnt shut down saurons ability nether
@abeybaebe2514
@abeybaebe2514 11 месяцев назад
All the new art is super cool
@godfireprime
@godfireprime 11 месяцев назад
Why is he holding a sword in the art? Sauron's weapon is famously a giant mace which he used to break narsil.
@damienjohnson3450
@damienjohnson3450 11 месяцев назад
"Too Greedily, Too Deep" AKA Chandra's reanimation LOL. That's the card I want the most.
@codelicious6590
@codelicious6590 11 месяцев назад
Uh hey Tomer ya missed the Monstrosity of the Lake's ability of putting a Stun counter on each of those tapped creatures! This means that, in most cases those creatures will remain tapped for TWO turns, because of the Stun counter's ability. I believe this raises this kraken up a hair from the unplayable mark into the playable in a sea monsters deck!
@alexandercoffey5022
@alexandercoffey5022 11 месяцев назад
Subjugate the Hobbits could have been a great candidate for cycling as well. Get it early? Cycle for advantage and maybe put it back on top of your library later.
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 11 месяцев назад
I think it's so interesting how they chose to do creature type line, like why is Tom Bombadil a God but all of the Maiar are Avatars?
@graefx
@graefx 11 месяцев назад
Tom Bombadil should have no creature types. Or for even more deep cuts, the creature types "Tom" and "Bombadil"
@SuperDeathclaws
@SuperDeathclaws 11 месяцев назад
From my understanding theirs a theory the Tom is either a self insert or the creator god of the Lotr universe.
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 11 месяцев назад
@@SuperDeathclaws Tolkien denied that Eru Illuvitar exists on Middle-Earth in a corporeal form. So no, Tom cannot be Eru. Self-insert, all I can say is Tolkien doesn't seem the type, but maybe
@NarutoGeek411
@NarutoGeek411 11 месяцев назад
I preordered this deck because I loved the text on both Saurons. Looking at the decklist it seems a bit conflicted with what it wants to do, and can't choose between Amass or reanimation, or goblin and orc tribal.
@JavierOrtizBultron
@JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад
Comletely agree. The commander is too expensive for a commander. At least it is a cast trigger and let it go to the graveyard if countered or killed. It is a big stick at that point. I plan on putting it in the 99 and either use Saruman or one of the Saurons from the main set.
@NarutoGeek411
@NarutoGeek411 11 месяцев назад
@@JavierOrtizBultron I don't mind big dumb commanders. My primary deck is Gishath. The deck needs more focus is what I mean.
@JavierOrtizBultron
@JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад
@@NarutoGeek411 also agree. Is trying to do too many things.
@scottricks1676
@scottricks1676 11 месяцев назад
Told myself I’d buy less sealed projects….but I can’t NOT get theses 4. Lovely decks.
@jimbryant2157
@jimbryant2157 11 месяцев назад
I have to confess to not being a very good deck builder and my decks are not terribly focused - which is why this deck will be perfect for me!
@BuckysKnifeFlip
@BuckysKnifeFlip 11 месяцев назад
Are these commander cards also modern legal like the main set is? Black Gate with Death's Shadow is pretty rad.
@Rabid_Wombat
@Rabid_Wombat 11 месяцев назад
Sorry but no...that would have been too cool 😎
@EX62690
@EX62690 11 месяцев назад
Frodo and Sam trolling Sauron and Saruman again at the start of the video.. Sauron and Saruman really can’t get rid of these pesky halflings! 🤣👍
@agrocreepers7710
@agrocreepers7710 11 месяцев назад
i wish they would print a card that would trigger when you amass and the trigger summons a token prolly a 1/1 and if they where spicy the token would have when you amass put a +1/+1 counter on this creature
@hobbitonpiper
@hobbitonpiper 11 месяцев назад
Can these Commander cards be used when constructing 60-card regular duel play decks, or are these “shield icon” commander cards for Commander gameplay only?
@earlmason1954
@earlmason1954 11 месяцев назад
The 'shield icon' cards are legal in legacy and vintage.
@hobbitonpiper
@hobbitonpiper 11 месяцев назад
@@earlmason1954 hi Earl, thanks for responding, I’m not familiar with these terms. I pre-ordered the starter kit with the two 60-card decks to play 1v1 duels. Can these LOTR Commander cards also be used in 1v1 decks or are they only to be used in the Commander game mode?
@davidlindsay5837
@davidlindsay5837 11 месяцев назад
There are multiple different 1v1 60-card formats. Vintage, Legacy, and Modern are the ones you can play this set with at tournaments.
@darianm9741
@darianm9741 11 месяцев назад
​@@hobbitonpiper In casual play at home you can do whatever you want lol. What is meant by Legacy and Vintage however is that those are the only two official formats (other than commander of course) where commander set cards are legal. They have the largest pool of cards for any format, allowing cards from the entirety of Magic's history (minus banned cards).
@earlmason1954
@earlmason1954 11 месяцев назад
@@hobbitonpiper Legagy and Vintage are specific 60 card formats. They are the least restrictive in terms of card legality. In most 60 card formats these cards can't be used. If you are just playing with your friends though and don't even know what formats are, they are probably fine to use.
@ThePhantomphan11
@ThePhantomphan11 11 месяцев назад
Battle Lands for sure
@jaimevazquezjr.89
@jaimevazquezjr.89 11 месяцев назад
I don’t think that particular Art for Sol Ring is in the precons. Only collector packs
@AndroideGalanazo
@AndroideGalanazo 11 месяцев назад
how many precons i need to buy so i can play it normaly? 3? 4? or just 1?
@Rabid_Wombat
@Rabid_Wombat 11 месяцев назад
Just the one deck to play Commander. You don't need playsets because the majority of the cards in the deck aren't Standard or Modern legal 😊
@kyonizuka
@kyonizuka 11 месяцев назад
amass is such a flavor fail and i will never get over it. i summon an army but its actually just 1 creature, and when i add to my army im really just making my 1 creature bigger. so literally an army can be stopped by any single creature in magic? at the very least amassed creatures should have trample so that a 5/5 army cant be blocked by a 0/1 plant token. sure it blocked 1 of the army members but the other 4 should get through
@iandegiovani4703
@iandegiovani4703 11 месяцев назад
Sounds fun, tbh
@TheAverageGuyTAG
@TheAverageGuyTAG 11 месяцев назад
Who would win in a fight: The Dark Lord, the Lidless Eye, THE Lord of the Rings himself, the all-powerful Sauron? or ONE. HONGRY. HOBBIT.
@CodenameJD
@CodenameJD 11 месяцев назад
Tango Lands are so good! Come on, WotC, what's it gonna take for you to finish the Tango Land cycle and print the missing five Tango Lands! I want my enemy Tangos! Tango Lands for life!
@RPGFanboy14
@RPGFanboy14 11 месяцев назад
I don't really get why there are so many dragons in this set. Smaug was the last great dragon in middle earth so where's Sauron is getting these dragons that are arguably better than the Smaug we are getting in the main set? Kind of a flavor fail. That said good reprints in this deck, still not sold how playable it is out of the box compared to the other decks in the set but I suppose we will see. Im gonna pick up all of these for myself and try to get my friends to play them in a pod.
@darocksolid2686
@darocksolid2686 11 месяцев назад
18:43 Tomer is a Reptilian confirmed 😮
@Rabid_Wombat
@Rabid_Wombat 11 месяцев назад
Looks like he got dragged screaming into the Warp.
@Poltrumanzio
@Poltrumanzio 11 месяцев назад
What if I use Abaddon as a commander?😅
@Rabid_Wombat
@Rabid_Wombat 11 месяцев назад
You might actually win some games 😂
@anhvu6824
@anhvu6824 11 месяцев назад
Rip getting counter spell
@razaketh
@razaketh 11 месяцев назад
Ngl I will probably buy the frodo deck and let it be sealed ,next to my LOTR books lol ...I have vampiric bloodlust from 2017 still sealed and because I don't play paper anymore its just gonna sit there ...but I will build a commander deck around frodo on MTGO ...food and lifegain are nice
@robertshannon5442
@robertshannon5442 11 месяцев назад
Grixis amass!
@BobardeZanzibar
@BobardeZanzibar 11 месяцев назад
I can't they put a power crept hedron archive in a rare slot.
@nickjoseph77
@nickjoseph77 11 месяцев назад
Quite a lot of strong and high priced reprints.
@buddatello
@buddatello 11 месяцев назад
It's actually Sarumon the stinky*
@gandalf4751
@gandalf4751 11 месяцев назад
The lord of the rings 😍😍😍😍😍
@icreateimage7908
@icreateimage7908 11 месяцев назад
Omg Mtg is going to drain my bank account. Honestly, the only deck im not so crazy about is the Elvish one. Since im not too good at the politican aspect of commander. Maybe that's a weakness of mine. But, daaaamn as Lotr fan im seriously tempeted to buy all four precons.
@solidraven6986
@solidraven6986 11 месяцев назад
You mill 5 lands straight lmao😂
@th3TwistedLight
@th3TwistedLight 11 месяцев назад
Lord of the Rings seems like an excellent creature to put IN the deck, not really pilot it
@grizzerotwofour7858
@grizzerotwofour7858 11 месяцев назад
Wooooot
@dannygeorge9131
@dannygeorge9131 11 месяцев назад
Man, in my opinion, this precon feels all over the place, a bit disappointed honestly. I love Sauron as a character, so I was expecting something more interestring, instead, we got a 8 mana reanimation spell with upside and a big body, dont get me wrong, its still pretty strong, it just feels boring and uninspired, hell, Sauron the Necromancer is also a somewhat reanimation commander with wraith support.
@Dryblas002
@Dryblas002 11 месяцев назад
The worst of the 4 precons and it's not even close
@elijah6568
@elijah6568 11 месяцев назад
Goes to cast Sauron *counterspell entered the chat*
@MTGGoldfishCommander
@MTGGoldfishCommander 11 месяцев назад
Even if Sauron gets countered you still amass 5, mill, and reanimate, so it comes with a bit of protection.
@silvius8103
@silvius8103 11 месяцев назад
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made” ― JRR Tolkien
@moqensen
@moqensen 11 месяцев назад
I usually always buy the new products, but I'm wont be supporting this garbage.
@juliantucker5695
@juliantucker5695 11 месяцев назад
the word battlefield has two "t"S in it. this guy says the word battlefield without pronouncing the hard t sound in the word. seems uneducated and slovenly.
@BagOfTacosForAll
@BagOfTacosForAll 11 месяцев назад
Just a bad video. Bad explanations on most cards.
@Zuzar-
@Zuzar- 11 месяцев назад
Lord of the cockrings! Must be elton john as commander, he got the diamond encrusted rings from eminem!
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