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I think execution of pretty savage is a bit underwhelming or awkward but black mamba team delivered unexpectedly stable. They served! This is how should performances sound, live, imperfect but appreciated. love hearing raw voices
Jyp himself said that if u want to do do a cover please avoid yg songs at all cost because it is very difficult to execute by outsiders (non yg artist)
I think it’s cuz Pretty Savage does have energy, but it also has sexiness. It has more sexiness then energy, so when Grade 3 performed while shouting and screaming all while looking like babies, it looked awkward. Their energy was misguided into trying to intimidate grade 4 by appearing very strong, when it should have been directed to wow factor I guess
전소연이 3학년 맡았으면 얼마나 역대급 무대 나왔을까싶고 궁금하다 개개인 역량은 3학년 에이스들이 넘사벽이라 전소연이 디렉팅했으면 무대 찢고 박살냈을듯 4학년은 댄스, 비주얼, 보컬 치고빠지기로 개인들 강점만 보이게 잘 살렸는데 3학년은 하나같이 내가 최고야 내가 ㅈㄴ 잘함 이거봐 잘하지?라 강약조절 못하고 부담스러웠음.. 디렉팅의 중요성
송예림, 이미희, 윤채원...이 셋에 눈길 제일 많이 간다 송예림은 춤 잘추는건 알고 있었는데 보컬까지 너무 완벽하고 무대 장악력이...대박인듯 무대 보면서 유일하게 소름 돋았던 순간이 예림이 블랙맘바! 할 때ㅠㅠ 이미희는 표정이 너무 예쁘고 다채로움...본인이 뭘 해야 매력적이게 보일지 잘 아는거 같음 윤채원은 뭐...말할 필요도 없이 완벽한 올라운더ㅠㅠ얼굴도 예뻐 춤도 잘춰 보컬도 완벽해 부족한게 뭐야? 다들 데뷔해
4학년은 되게 잘 짜인 판을 보는 느낌임. 이 방송 자체를 안 보고 그냥 이 무대만 보고 이야기 하는 건데... 어디서 어떻게 나타나고 어떻게 해야 우리가 더 예쁘게, 더 기억이 남을까 포인트 주는 것이 보임. 나 이거 잘해 라는 걸 확실히 보여주는데, 과하지 않게 강약조절을 함. 그렇다 보니 그 나이 또래에는 잘하는 3학년이 역으로 덜 정리가 되어보이게 만들게 만들어 보임. 보는 사람 입장엔 더 정리가 되어서 깔끔한, 그러니까 온전히 그룹으로 보이는 팀을 더 잘하게 보이는 것 같음... 이 기회로 보컬이 흔들리면 무대가 어수선해보인다는 것도 알게 되었음.
와...4학년은 진짜 실력자들만 모인느낌이였음.. 무대 구성도 깔끔하고 보컬은 송예림, 김인혜, 윤채원이 무게있게 딱 잡아주고 댄브도 진짜 소름돋았음... 특히 송예림이 보컬이나 안무로 중간중간 중심 잡아주는 느낌이였고 윤채원 목소리가 너무 깔끔함 ㅠㅠ 다른 멤버들도 다 보이고 진짜 멋있음👍👍👍
i was worried for the Black Mamba team, but I shouldn't have been. With Sooyeon's guidance and the girls' experience and maturity, this was such a wonderful performance from them. It felt like a performance from an already established kpop group
그룹에서 도입부와 메댄 메보 실력의 중요성을 보여주는 무대네요. 이미희의 너무 매력적인 첫 표정과 안정적인 보컬이 무대를 열어주고 + 송예림의 댄싱과 보컬이 무대 전반에 파워와 에너지를 주고 + 윤채원이 고음 안정적으로 끌어줌. 그리고 한명한명 다 비교적 안정적으로 구멍을 거의 드러내지 않으며 무대를 받쳐주니까 좋은 무대가 완성됨. 4학년을 멀티플레이어 전소연이 맡은게 신의 한 수!
3학년 무대는 확실히 매력이 안느껴짐. 저렇게 원곡 가수보다 인원수가 많고 4학년보다 댄스 실력이 장점이라 힘 딱 주는 군무로 승부 볼거였으면 차라리 의상을 다 똑같이 맞추는 편이 나았음.군무는 고퀄리티인데 옷이 워낙 제각각이라 난잡해서 가장 큰 장점인 군무가 안보임.(군무와 댄스가 생명인 스우파 댄서들이 경연당시 거의 대부분의 무대의 옷들이 통일감 있는 이유가 있음.) 그러니 오히려 4학년보다 약한 보컬능력이 눈에 들어옴.장점을 죽이고 단점을 보여준 전형적인 무대임. 원곡 블랙핑크 무대를 보면 알겠지만 옷이 제각각 통일감 없이 튀어도, 전체적으로는 부드럽게 흘러가면서 적당히 강약조절하는 안무를 추니, 오히려 멤버 개개인의 옷과 스타일링이 눈에 확확 들어와서 각자의 매력을 살림. 한마디로 소수인원에 맞게 한명한명 매력에 집중하는 무대임.(그리고 일단 4멤버 모두가 보컬수준이 기본이상이고) 3학년의 장점인 강한에너지를 내세우고 싶었다면 임팩트있고 강한 안무를 하되, 옷도 세보이게 스타일링을 하면서 똑같은 옷으로 통일 했어야 했음.(ex여자아이들의 라이온 무대, 스우파 라치카 메가크루무대) 이 무대로 확실히 알 수 있는 건, 무대자체는 한가지로 구성하는게 아니라는 걸 알 수 있음. 안무스타일, 노래, 표정, 음색,옷 스타일링, 무대전체의 흐름, 이에 맞는 컨셉과 분위기, 멤버들이 무대 맞게 보여줘야하는 매력, 이 모든 것들이 조화롭게 이루워졌느냐 아니냐의 따라 무대의 완성도가 달라지고 관객의 환호성이 달라짐. 한마디로 이 무대는 아이들이 못한게 아니라 디렉팅의 실패임.좋은 재료들로 요리를 못한거지
Most of the girls in 3rd grade were overdoing the song. Blackpink songs aren’t about “overdoing” it. They’re laid back. HyeonHeui/HyeonHee was carrying their group. One girl decided she wanted to go off the tempo to shout most of her lines, and dance like there’s no tomorrow. TaeRim and the other girls with the chipmunk voices were cringy/annoying. Meanwhile, the 4th graders were all in sync in terms of energy, performance, and level of confidence - which is why they won. They weren’t trying to steal the attention individually, but as a group.
It’s so shocking too because 4th grade, even in the pre show, was always considered the weakest group. But in every single one of their performances (including signal song), even the weakest members worked well and the strongest members glued the teamwork together
The black mamba group even though the song is really high and has a powerful dance moves they delivered it well while pretty savage group you can see that some members lacks on pronunciation of the English words and they somehow wasn’t on beat when they singing it’s like they are fast. Both did great but black mamba was cleaner and synchronized when it comes to choreography and they have powerful and stable voice when it comes to vocal.
Black mamba is definitely hard to cover especially with power vocals and the hard choreography. There's a reason why Aespa got popular and awarded for their dance performance!!! Jeon soyeon is such a great mentor!!!
@@nancywindsor2110 Yea the chorus part is really high and they have to do it while doing such a hard choreo. The first girl (Lee Mihee) sounds kinda strained though, but Song Yerim did really well on the chorus part.
Pretty Savage really feels so disorganized... it's not an aggressive/energetic song and relies on production for the vibe it gives. The way BP performs it is confident in a way that's not meant to be overwhelming, but also "pretty". It's also a song of theirs that works with deeper vocal tones, like Ji eun's, and is quietly intense. The energy scattered the vibe of the song which, stripped down, doesn't work too well with shouting. I also really like Rosé's and Jennie's pre-chorus lines in this, which a few of the girls here dodged by not singing the "Oh" in a connected vocal line. Whereas the Black Mamba performance was really stable and consistent, and also knocked it out of the park with all of the vocal highlights. They really worked as a collective group and it helps they had really good vocalists to anchor them. I feel like this was not the right BP song to cover, if any. Maybe As If It's Your Last or Playing With Fire would have been a better showcase.
That’s Lee Mihee she is from a K-POP group called Botopass support her and her group with their song Flamingo they are so underrated they debuted in 2020 and support Mihee here in my Teenage girl
3학년 에너지가 너무 좋긴 한데 한 곳에 모여진 단단한 에너지가 아니라 여기저기 흩뿌려진 에너지들 같아서 너무 중구난방 같이 생각 됐음 동작도 깔끔하게 다 맞춰진 게 아니라 개개인 역량이 너무 뛰어나서 저 많은 인원이 전부 나를 보세요!!! 하는 거 같았음... 반면에 4학년은 누구 파트에 누가 제일 잘 보이고 그래서 이름이랑 얼굴이 기억에 잘 남음 눈에 띄게 못하는 애도 없고 그래서 정말 팀으로 보임. 근데 3학년 우산 퍼포먼스는 왜 한 거임?
I think the juniors were constantly told they were good that it backfired and made them cocky and arrogant. Their performance was too much it started lacking. Everyone tried to shine individually that the whole performance stuck out like a sore thumb. Meanwhile the seniors knew they were weak, improved so much their performance was captivating. Their strong and stable vocals caught me first, unlike the juniors. And in the dance break/battle, i really applaud the seniors’ professionalism and attitude. Because, while the juniors were trying so hard to antagonise and provoke them, the seniors only focused on performing for the audience, which imo is the best kind of response. And finally, Im sorry but i had to snicker at the junior failing the split she copied from the senior.
Don't feel sorry. Remember, they said that the seniors were an easy opponent, karma just backfired faster. Its her fault, instead of doing what she was supposed to do, she copied someone who was minding their own business.
JSY really mentored the 4th grade well. They seem like one real group. Mi Hee served as a center well, In Hye and Chae Won as main vocals, Hye Ju and Hye Rim as main dancers. The rest did their parts as leads and subs. They're perfectly balanced. Rooting for 4th graders!!♡
BLACK MAMBA ATE THIS PERFORMANCE AND LEFT NO CRUMBS DEFINITELY SLAYED KUDOS TO SOYEON MENTOR SHE REALLY DID A GREAT JOB ALSO THE GIRLS ARE ALL SO TALENTED BUT GRADE 4 IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL
Obvious points why 4th grade won. They're not competing with each other . They dance as one. Same level of performance. Not overdoing it and since that was a group perf, everything they done was synchronized and also didn't sacrifice their singing parts as they are supposed to sing and dance an idol group song. In 3rd grade,can't dehy the fact that they're all good perfomers. The choreography was lit. They just overdone it. Goodjob to both team for singing live .👏👏
This is how performances and music shows should be. No pre recorded voices. Just pure live vocals! It may not sound that flattering and stable but it is what is. Props for these girls for singing LIVE!!!!
@@shanelle569 what are you talking about? We don't expect them to do high notes every stages. Atleats 1-3 performance real vioce in 1 comeback. And all award show
The 4th grade's performance describes what a group is more, it's soooooo beautiful because their teamwork made it shine even more. The 3rd grader's is more into individually which is cool too.
지나가다 우연히봤는데 송예림이라는 참가자는 노래하는 맛을 아는 가수네요ㅎㅎ리듬, 강약 뭐 하나 빠지는게 없이 진짜 쫀듯하고 맛이나게 불러요 무슨노래를 받든 잘 부를 스타일! 타고난 센스가 넘치는듯.. 심지어 생라이브인것같은데ㄷㄷ춤도 파워풀하네요 모두 날씬한게 아름답다고하지만 지금도 충분히 멋있어요
Issue with pretty savage is that its a very quiet song imo. So having fewer people matches it (like 4 -5). But since there were so many people and each was competing against the other instead of working together, it became very overwhelming between the quiet instrumentals and loud, powerful, but overdone vocals/raps. We were definitely able to see that the people in the pretty savage performance are talented but over performance, the black mumba team served. As a group, black mumbas performance was well put together and well rounded. It seemed like a debuted kpop group rather than a group of people competing. The song choice was also in their favor as it isnt as quiet as pretty savage.
There is no issue with the song Pretty Savage, the real issue here is how the meentor of that group forced them to perform it. Pretty Savage is not easy to perform because it requires stable and powerful vocals. This song is like a customized song made for BP only 'cause their vocals really suit it well. You need to train more but the mentor forced the group
@@daenerystargaryen4483 exactly, pretty savage is supposed to be about being laid back while singing it, not about being overdoing it and shouting, they already went off track the minute lee taerim decided to change the “prrrrr” to “AHA”
@@lynymII yeah i thought her and yuri were really the worst mentors on the show compared to aiki and soyeon who went with what their students were comfortable with performance wise.
이미희 센터 있을 때마다 눈길 확 사로잡고 진짜 누가봐도 컨셉 잘 이해한거 같음. 스타트 파트 맡은 거 너무 잘 소화했고 6:45 여기 미친거 같음. 송예림 4:53 "이기지 못해 "존잰 모-" 로 빼는 거 진짜 딕션 너무 좋고 미친 거 같음. 댄브나 파워풀하게 나와야할때 중심 딱 잡고 있는 거 너무 좋음 김인혜 5:05 여기 음색 너무 좋음 김윤서 0:32 딕션 너무 좋아서 집중 확 됨. 원래 래펀지는 모르겠지만
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대결하는 전체 무대 구성은 거의 퀸덤급으로 해줬네.. 좋다좋다 전소연이 4학년을 통해 자기의 프로듀싱 실력을 보여줄려고 한다는게 느껴지는게 추가합격시킨 송예림이랑 김유연을 둘 다 후렴구 센터로 넣어놨음 ㅋㅋㅋ '너희가 불합격 시킨 애들이 이렇게나 매력있다!' 라는 걸 보여줄려는 느낌. 특히 송예림은 댄스실력이 원채 뛰어나니까 파워풀한 댄스를 보여줄때 제대로 써먹는 느낌. 카메라 구도때문에도 각 파트별로 센터에 시선이 집중되게 해서 단점은 잘 감추고 장점만 잘 드러내는 느낌. 다 너무 좋음
Black mamba's vocal team more stable than pretty savage team, i am in love with theirs girls performance. But we probably know YG's song isn't for everyone for reason.
Looking back at this, Pretty Savage team looks like a bunch of aspiring trainees trying to get scouted by a company while the Black Mamba looks like they're performing for an audience.
Their clothes also kind of reflect their connection as a team, 3rd grade is a clash of entirely different colors and outfits while 4th are all alike in some way with either a touch of pink or black which definitely makes them look more unified. Tbh it kind of reminds me of a lot of (G)I-DLE stages (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)
Both Groups are insane in their own way. Grade 3 serving dance, facial expressions y power. Grade 4 serving dance, vocals and stability. I can't with this perf and is just the first mission :0 ahhhh
Grade 3 more like serving dance that hurt to watch 😭. Everyone was overdancing and facial expressions was outrageous. Blackpink song doesn't need that. It need swag
Grade 3 tried too hard to be swag and instead made it seem like they couldnt control their power in both vocals and dancing. Even the facial expressions come off to be as being a bitch instead of cool. Combined with the fact that they were overconfident that they were gonna beat grade 4, which was labelled as the weakest grade, its not surprising that they got too carried away and the performance was shit.
I'm so proud of the seniors 😭 I watched multiple episodes because of them. At first it was just for Soyeon but I fell in love with them. I hope they can all debutttt if only I can help them reach their goal
Blackpink’s songs are insanely hard to cover. Maybe that’s why Pretty Savage as a song choice didn’t work for the juniors because their whole performance was a train wreck. The Black Mamba cover was so good though! Soyeon did a good job mentoring them.
The 4th grade has always been talented, they just lacked confidence. I'm glad Soyeon is there to guide and help them to know their talents more and gain confidence!
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holy shit 2nd group completely ATE the first group like in terms of vocals, first group was pretty messy and the "screams" didn't sound good. Second group had really stable vocals, even with a hard dance. Not a single missed note and they blended with the song really good
I’m still baffled how Mihee is not so popular and doesn’t get appreciate so much. She actually caught my attention in their same but different performance that get me hooked up to the show. Also i can’t really stan girls below my age that’s why im excited for 4th grade and as of now Mihee, Yerim, and Chaewon is my fav while for the 3rd grade i like Taerim and Hyeonhee?? I forgot the exact name. In 2nd and 1st i only like 1-2 in 2nd which is Jimin and Minami in 1st Boeun and the other girl the first rank in 1st grade i also forgot her name but i like her she’s kind of really talented.
누가 더 간절하냐는 단정지을 수 없는 문제지만, 확실히 4학년이 연습 진짜 열심히 하고 주특기를 중심으로 다른 것들을 넓혀가는 느낌. 보컬멤버, 댄스멤버 각자가 본인의 포지션으로 센터에 섰을 때 흔들리지 않고 잡아주니까 전체적으로 균형이 잘 잡힌 것처럼 보임. 에너지가 다른 학년보다 강한 건 아니지만 과하지 않게 본인들이 보여주고 싶은 강점 어필을 잘하는 듯. 전소연이 코칭을 잘해주고 피드백도 개개인 따라 해주던데, 단점 가리고 매력은 극대화해줘서 일단 담임선생님 프로듀싱 실력이 대박이고, 둘째로 그걸 흡수해서 고치며 연습해온 연습생들 노력도 대단함. 3학년은 개인 역량은 다른 학년도 인정할 정도로 뛰어난데, 한팀으로 무대 하려니 각자의 장점도 보이지만 단점도 생기는 듯...ㅜ 그래도 서바이벌 시작부터 내내 주변 연습생들 떨어지기만 해서 심리적으로 불안하고 힘들었을텐데 다들 버티고 노력하는 모습이 멋있음. 이 프로그램을 통해 모두가 데뷔할 수 있는 건 아니지만, 모두 꼭 잘되면 좋겠다ㅠ
5:19 Ain't nobody topping that charisma. I'm really thankful for Soyeon. I remember that time that the door didn't open but look at her now she ate that part.
Yess, i think the 4th graders did better than the 3rd graders here Huge shoutout to yoon chaewon and kim inhye i never knew they're vocals were that good
@@jvtwins5509 after first entrance mission she was eliminated and not choosen by soyeon to revive only taerim,yooyeon and yoojung and till now no news from her
처음에 도입부는 이미희님이 짱 잘하신듯 표정연기때문에 뭔가 사로잡는 느낌이 딱 들고 중간부터 윤채원님 송예림님 캐리..ㄷ 둘다 보컬 안정적인데다가 거기서 송예림님 춤 파워풀하게 추시는거 개멋있다 그리고 김유연님 너무 이쁘시고..춤발전한게 보여 보컬도 좀만 연습하면 가능성 있어보인다 ㅠㅠ
The girls did their best but ngl PRETTY SAVAGE is a very beautiful song I was so excited for the perform but it was kinda embarrassing but the BM team killed it they ate and left no crumbs for the PS team.... And here is another proof that no-one can cover BP songs😝
Vocal, dance perf and as a team, black member is soo great and well balance, 5 star to mentor soyeon. 3rd grade did great too but yes they are awkward some are well rounder but when they do it as a team they seem lack something, vocal seems can improve more
3학년 애들 보컬이 살짝 아쉬운 감이 있지만 그래도 잘했고 4학년 애들 너무 잘했네요!! 확실이 4학년 애들이 성숙하고 잘 살리는 모습도 보였어요. 소연언니가 진짜 애들 장점을 너무 잘 살려줬고 4학년들도 처음으로 자기 장점이 잘 드러나는 무대를 보여준거 같아서 너무 좋았어요!!!
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