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Jaehaerys had 12 kids. Three of them were aemon, baelon, saera Rhaenys was aemon's daughter Viserys and daemon were baelon's sons Hugh is saera's son Which makes him the cousing of viserys, daemon and rhaenys
@@menonra30 He forgot to mention Daella's Targaryen on the main comment. He married an Arryn and had Aemma who married it's first cousin Viserys and had Rhaenyra.
No wonder Rhaena couldnt bond with seasmoke before cause Laenor was still alive in Pentos. He probably died recently offscreen thats why Addam was able to bond with the dragon.
@@costco_pizzahonestly idk, theyve been merging a lot of book characters into different people. Rhaena getting some of Nettles story and Oscar Tully being a mix of Elmo and Kermit Tully.
Dragons canonically have no gender. They change their sex based on reproduction necessity. That is state clearly in the books. Intersexuality is relatively common in lizards, and even true hermaphrodism is not unheard of.
Hugh is saying that his mother is the sister to daemon and viserys's father. Making him their cousin. Jaehaerys is their grandfather. If you want to look into Hugh's mom, her name was Saera Targaryen. A rebellious young girl who wanted to be free from the family etc.
"A rebellious young girl who wanted to be free from the family etc" Is a very generous way to put it. She was described as a cruel, manipulative and selfish narcisist who often abused and mistreated servants, caused men to fight each other deliberately for her favor sometimes even to the bitter end, would take on multiple sexual partners and when caught, she made a mockery of demanding to marry all of them. When punished for her actions, which led to the death of a noble heir who wanted her favor, she attempted to steal a dragon instead of simply accepting the punishment. It ultimately caused the king to give up on her after giving her several chances, at which point he sent her to the silent sisters, from which she escaped from to Lys, became a high class prostitute and had several bastards before becoming the owner of a brothel.
@@naosou921 that's still being rebellious and wanting to be free, simplified granted,.. Yes, she wasn't a very good person (for the treating people with cruelty) but that would be lashing out at the cage that was being a noble, while she wanted to "be free" and have sex with whoever she wanted and do and say whatever she wanted. She just wasn't cut out to be a princess or even a lady. I wouldn't put her under the evil Targaryens list.
@@V_i_vi_an Except that she was described as abusive and vicious towards servants even as a child. She literally made men hurt each other for her own sport. She was given multiple chances, forgiveness and so on, and still chose to do outrageous stuff everytime. There are plenty of vulnerable and innocent targaryen women to defend, but Saera was most certainly not one of them. She was the jewel of Jaehaerys's eye and he gave her an absurd amount of second chances.
Getting dragon riders is only step one, they now have to be trained to fly and eventually fight. The show did a good job of Olf not having full command of his dragon.
In Jace's defense. He's already seen as a bastard, with no inch of silver hair. If they won the war and definitely only a few Targaryens would survive, once Rhaenyra is dead, those bastards with dragons could easily usurp the throne from him. That bastard could have a way bigger dragon and a silver hair. Both things he lacks. Half of the seven kingdoms declared for Aegon even though the righful heir was Rhaenyra, so there's also a big possibilty that half would declare for someone who has a bigger dragon and one who looks more Targaryen than the rightful heir but has a smaller dragon and with black hair.
You know what else could cost him the throne? Losing the war and dying because they had no way to beat Vhagar. It is a pointless argument. Yeah, the dragonseeds may cause his rule to become shaky, but if they don't use the dragonseeds he won't ever get to rule because they will have no way to beat Vhagar in the first place, and when Sunfyre heals and Tessarion joins, their faction will lose without the new dragonriders.
@@naosou921 that's why he wants the highborns to do it, not the bastards. They don't look Targaryens and they belong to their own house. They have more to lose too if they think about betraying Jace - their family standing, their lands and castles and of course, they already have enemies from other lords. Bastards don't have such things to think about
@@johndinobuff583 There are no highborns to do it. Rhaenyra poured through the books to find a single guy and he got burned up. Most highborns have obligations or too much to lose to even attempt something this stupid. None of them stepped up and she can't force them.
Jace definitely has a point (even though finding new riders who are not of full Targ blood was his idea) but this really does tarnish the Targ reputation overall AND it makes his claim to the throne much weaker - since having a dragon was what made it seem like he was valid I loved the tear in Rhaenyras eye when Hugh claimed Vermithor Ulf really is Targ I guess cause that seemed easy Corlys man… Give your sons some love Oh and Oscar has big 🏀 🏀 I really want the new riders to all have an honest talk with Rhaenyra about their parentage - over dinner next episode
@@OpeningsOpenings And do you know if the son of the Young Oscar Tully who we see in this episode will end up being the Hoster Tully we see briefly in the GoT series??
I hate it when people say "Jace had a point" without addressing the fact that when asked what the alternative was, he had no response. Because there was no other way. Sure, Dragonseeds cause problem long term, but without the Dragonseeds the Blacks won't even live long enough to worry about the long term. They have no response to Vhagar, and when Sunfyre heals and Tessarion joins the fight, it will be over for Rhaenyra. She needs the dragonseeds immediately. Criicizing her idea because of future troubles is insane when there won't even be a future if they don't do this. You know what is even worse for Jace's claim? Losing the war.
@@alexchlomandar3805 I read the books. I know how it ends. The fact remains that if they didn't do this, they would lose the war. There were not enough nobility of targaryen descendancy willing to risk become dragonriders. There was no alternative. Their options were: A - Die to Vhagar B - Pick dragonseeds now and deal with the problems that it brings later
I absolutely love the attention to detail when it comes to the Dragons. They are all very different looking, they sound so different you can actually identify them by the sound they make. This is absolutely amazing considering these are just some made up animals. This is Jurassic Park level of legendary work by the art team. Also, they are very different in temperament as well. in GoT, Drogon was the mean dark one and there was the other two. This is on a whole another level. Also Hugh claiming his grandfather's dragon is really cool. Silverwing looks amazing, her head looks like an arrow.
Maybe I'm wrong but Saera is the last daughter of King Jaehaerys, in fact he banished her for being a whore, and it was her mother Alysanne who pleaded for her the last years to return to Westeros, but Saera had already built her kingdom, her business was rich and free and she never returned. Vermithor was King Jaehaerys' dragon and it is poetic that the son of the daughter he one day banished and disinherited claims his dragon.
@@TheEsyaba Saera wasn't Jahaerys last daughter, there was at least 2 younger girls than her from that marriage. Also she wasn't banished for being a whore (sex worker) she just was very pro sex liberation and took multiple partners while being a teenager. Eventually she became an actual whore and as you said became rich.
It wasn't a bait. I think Ulf just rode Silverwing and Silverwing being bored af decided to fly around and Ulf didn't know how to fly her yet. Kings Landing and Dragonstone are basically neighbors so she decided to fly around there since that is basically also the dragons home.
So why was Vermithor and Syrax outside? Why did it look like Rheanyra wasn't surprised by anything. She seemed well in the know that Vhagar was gonna pop up.
😆Yeah honestly it probably feels very freeing. I don't know much about the faith of the seven practices but it kinda reminded me of a baptism she did say It wasn't Clean there at King's Landing.
Seasmoke: “I prefer bloodline.” Vermithor: “I prefer courage and someone who had balls to say me STOP EATING PEOPLE” Silverwing: “Who cares? I’m lonely and lovely i want company, now i got my donkey 🥰”
God, they did Oscar Tully so RIGHT!!! Lil’ dude has massive balls, and I cannot wait to see the other Riverlands boys 🕺✨ EAT EM UP OSCAAAAAR (also the begrudging respect on Daemon’s face when Oscar asks “will you have our armies or not?” had home CACKLING)
Jaehaerys is the grandfather of Viseys and Daemon. You’ve missed one generation. Baelon (Jarhaerys’ son) is the father of Daemon, and he had many sisters
@@ulovexy book rhaenyra and S1 rhaenyra but they’ve mad her and alicent insufferable weak, in reality they don’t give a damn what a man says in the book.
@@duggs4456 She was sent off to be a nun because she repeatedly did horrible things. She was sentenced to be a nun because the last straw of her escapades was her getting caught with 3 men and then instead of apologizing, demanding to be married to all three. "Maegor took multiple spouses, so can I". Then she tried to steal a dragon egg and escape. She was not innocent. She was not nice. She mistreated and abused servants for fun.
@@naosou921always worth pointing out you are reading about her through the filters of maesters hundreds of years after the fact. They likely wouldn’t be kind to a disgraced Targaryen princess in their accounts, especially when contrasted with the Counciliator. We don’t truly know what these characters were like beyond accounts by different sources.
@@RandomsPage By that logic you can't believe a single thing that is written in any historical records. Maybe Daemon was an angel. Why don't you argue that fact? Yes, we only have one version of Saera, but we do not have any other version either. There is nobody contesting the presented version, so by the lack of alternatives we must assume it is the truth. There are many events in Fire And Blood that are contested by other tellers. We have at least 3 different views in most events of Fire and Blood. Eustace, Mushroom, Grand Maester Orwyle So clearly, even dissenting voices make it in Westerosi history, and yet, nobody contested the depiction of Saerra. Not her family, not other maesters or historians, not even the aggrieved family of the Stinger who challeged Jaehaerys I to a trial by combat since he was one of the men caught 'dishonoring' Saera. So yeah, I will take the historical evidence we have presented over literally nothing except baseless guesses and assumptions out of contrarianism.
19:37 Jace isn't wrong at all in this point of view... the only reason people accept his, Luke's and Joffrey's legitimacy as pure-blood Targaryens, children of Rhaenyra and Laenor, is the fact that their dragon eggs hatched when they were born and their ties to the dragons gradually increased as they grew to the point where they became their riders. Allowing bastards or people with no connection to the Targaryen blood to claim a dragon basically tells the common people that the Targaryens' connection to dragons is nothing special, just like Cole was very wrong when he displayed Meleys' head around Kingsland, basically showing that dragons are not invincible gods. Both sides of the coin are understandable, both Jace and Rhaenyra, after all if the bastards and commoners can do this, what stops them from using this divine force (the dragons) to face the Targaryens and want to usurp the Iron Throne from them? both concerns are understandable: Rhaenyra wanting to end the war so she can rule in peace and Jace wanting to fight for his mother's legitimacy and his own claim to the Iron Throne but at the same time questioning whether when she is gone, people will accept him as King and not end up suffering what his mother is currently suffering with the usurpation of the greens.
Hugh is the son of Saera Targaryen-a aunt of Viserys- who was caught with having relations with 3 close male companions. She proposed to her father Jaeharys I that she’d marry all three of them like Maegor did with his wives-which was exactly the wrong button to push with the king since Maegor murdered two of his brothers. After this and after she tried to steal a dragon he killed one of her lovers in a duel while forcing her to watch then tried to send her to become a silent sister (which was mentioned as likely being an empty threat). She escaped and fled to Essos and may still be alive. I’m sure if she heard she’d be laughing hysterically at one of her sons claiming her father’s dragon
Addam bending the knee to Rhaenyra like a REAL LOYAL MAN; Oscar Tully has balls and you can see he’s the ancestor from Catelyn Stark; Elinda working hard on Kings Landing for her Queen; Jace had a point but PUT SOME RESPECT ON YOUR MOTHER; Rhaenyra talking in High Valiryan 🥰; 10/10
I think he knew but chose not to divulge the information to fuck Aemond over. He can't control Àemond as he can Aegon so i think he wants Aemond to fail.
Oscar was the mvp of the episode. I love that the dragons pick their riders. I believe Rhaenyra told Ulf to go to Kingslanding to draw Aemond out so they could ambush him. That last shot of Rhaenyra and the 3 dragons waiting on Aemond gave me life. Loved your reaction
Hugh's mother is Seara Targaryen. Jahaerys is Viserys & Daemons GRANDFATHER. Jahaerys has 13 children, two of them are Alyssa and Baelon aka Daemon & Viserys' parents
i understand that many people are "bored" by Daemon's plot, but in the books it is not really explained why he is in Harrenhall for so long, personally I love what they have done with his character this season, he is atoning for his sins and facing his dark part, has finally awakened from his "sleep" or "journey" The Rogue Prince returns stronger than ever 🔥🖤
Corey is always right.😉 After that amazing episode, the only thing to talk about is Alicent talking a bath ??😄 Ulf says he is Baelon's son. So half-brother of Viserys and Daemon. Hugh's mother was Saera, who ended running a brothel in Essos. So he is a cousin of Viserys, Daemon and Ulf.
I feel like the only reason the religious sect at dragonstone chose not to help is because they were more afraid of being burned alive rather than the tarnished possibility of the family
King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne had many children…one of them was a girl named Saera who was quite wild and willful and promiscuous. She was sent away to Oldtown to become a silent sister for sleeping around and she ran away to Lys and worked in a brothel. Hugh would be the grandson of the old king and cousin to Viserys, Daemon and Rhaneys.
Hugh Hammer is the son of Baelon Targaryen (The father of Viserys and Daemon). Hugh Hammer's mother is Saera Targaryen, who is the daughter of late King Jaehaerys I Targaryen. He was the rider of Vermithor, before Hugh). It's just amazing how Hugh became the rider of his grandfather's dragon. I guess this is the reason why Vermithor chose him.
Hugh's mother is Saera Targaryen which is a change from the book as Saera wasn't the mother of Hugh. Saera is Baelon's sister with Baelon being Viserys and Daemon's father and Saera is a very interesting character and is borderline pure evil.
Alicent is taking a mental break from all the BS at Kings Landing. On the behind the scenes they showed how that big tree behind Daemon when meeting with the Riverland people had George RR Martin's face drawn onto it. I didn't see it until it was pointed out there.
Jace was acting that way because throughout the years his only defense against the bastard accusations was that he was able to claim a dragon. Targaryen and valeryons are both of old Valyria and it was believed that only the blood of old Valyria could claim a dragon so even tho his true born father harwin strong is highsborn he doesn’t have Targaryen blood. jace assured himself that laenor really is his father but now that bastard Targaryens of lowborn mothers/ fathers can claim a dragon it fully destroys his defense and in time the realm will know it and then when rhaenyra dies they will not accept him as their king.
Saera Targaryen was Hugh's mother, she was the daughter of the old king, the rebel of the family, she escaped to be free and ended up working in a brothel
"I'm so glad you got that because my brain doesn't do family trees like that" 😭 but he got it wrong, Hugh's mother is Saera Targaryen, Jaehaerys' daughter not his half sister
Jace's point of view is very understandable. He's a strong bastard and his mother just gave dragons to targaryen bastards. If everything goes "well" she just made preparations for the next dance of dragons
I think you’re right about Addam not being Corlys’s son… only Allyn has blonde hair, Addam has black hair… because Addam’s father is someone else, but it’s their mother who is the Targ blood carrier
Alicent is trying to wash her sins away. I actually wouldn't be surprised if she accidentally drowned herself. I hope Rhaenyra and Daemon come back together to win the war and the writers stop all this male vs female and Daemon vs Rhaenyra stuff.
Omg. Viseris was Jaehaerys’s grandson. Hugh’s mother was a sister of Viseris’s father. Which makes her Jaehaerys’s daughter. Viseris and Daemon are her nephews, Hugh is cousin to Viseris and Daemon.
Joffrey (Rhaenyra's third son) is still in the Vale with his dragon, Tyraxes. Lady Jeyne Arryn is still protecting him. Only the youngest two sons (Aegon the Younger and Viserys) were sent to Pentos for safety along with Aegon the Younger's dragon, Stormcloud. Rhaena was meant to go with them but obvs thought naa, I'm going dragon hunting. You're confused about the family tree. King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne had 13 children. All of them (and Alysanne) died in Jaehaerys' lifetime. 4 of his 13 children had children of their own. The eldest, Prince Aemon, was Rhaenys' father. He died in a war. He was Ceraxes' first rider. The second son was Prince Baelon (Viserys and Daemon's father. He was also Ulf's father too). He died from illness. He used to ride Vhagar. Princess Alyssa Targaryen - the eldest daughter. She was the sister-wife of Prince Baelon and mother of Viserys and Daemon. (She was not Ulf's mother as Ulf is a bastard). She died in childbirth. She was Meleys' first rider before Rhaenys. Princess Daella Targaryen. She was the mother of Queen Aemma Arryn (Rhaenyra's mother). She died in childbirth. Princess Saera Targaryen - Hugh's mother. Saera was very defiant and very promiscuous to the point Jaehaerys disowned her. She ran away to the Free Cities and opened her own brothel and became super successful. She then had Hugh. Hugh is still a bastard as Saera never married. We know she's dead but don't know the cause. Illness most likely. Rhaenys, Viserys, Daemon, Aemma, Hugh and Ulf are the only grandchildren of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne. (Rhaenys, Viserys, Daemon and Aemma are legitimate grandchildren). Vermithor (male) used to be King Jaehaerys' dragon. Ironic it was claimed by the child of the daughter Jaehaerys disowned. Silverwing (female) was Queen Alysanne's dragon. Silverwing was said to be very docile and friendly hence why she didn't get pissed about the eggs. Vermithor and Silverwing are mates (just like their former riders Jaehaerys and Alysanne). Syrax and Ceraxes are mates too (just like their riders too).
Larys is pushing Aegon to recover quicker so he can come back and push aemond out, since Aegon chose larys to be one of his councillors and Aegon is easier to manipulate
@@mizzy5193 and do their own thing. They don't kill anyone significant. Now, go cry. Today Rhaenyra stepped on you all traitors and rap*ist supporters😂😂😂THE GREEN TURDS
honestly i don’t know if they’ll flesh out rhaenyra/mysaria bc the kiss was improvised by the actresses. as much as id like them to have A Thing bc i love both characters, i don’t think they’ll risk it
16:55 Larys is pushing for him to get up and on his feet sooner. As long as he is helpless, he is in danger. Orwyle knows it, because he caught Aemond torturing Aegon already. This is why Larys is saying he has long before he can rest...until he can get on his feet and defend himself against his brother, he can't afford to rest. Though probably right about now Aegon wishes that he _was_ dead and not in all this pain
“Silverwing was the last one they had in stock” was an A+ joke. Gotta give you a shout out for that one. Your buds didn’t laugh but I don’t think they either heard the joke or were able to process the joke just because they were understandably so into the show.
Hugh's mother would have been one of Jahaerys' _daughters_ because her brother was Viserys and Daemon's dad according to what Hugh says here. Remember, Viserys was Jahaerys' GRANDSON, not his son. Jahaerys had *8* daughters and 3 sons. His 3 sons were Aemon, Baelon, and Vaegon. - Youngest son Vaegon became an archmaester, so he has no children (that we know of). - Eldest son Aemon only had one child, Rhaenys, who went on to marry Corlys Velaryon. She became known as The Queen Who Never Was. - Second son Baelon had Viserys and Daemon. (There was a 3rd son who was stillborn or died before he turned a year old). So, since Hugh's mother claimed Hugh was "as good as her brother's sons, Viserys and Daemon," her brother would have to be Baelon, and that would make her Jahaerys' daughter since Baelon is Jahaerys' son. One of Jahaerys' daughters DID turn out rather wild and was KNOWN to have had 3 bastard sons because they all showed up to press their claim as heir to the throne during the Great Council when Jahaerys decided which of his grandchildren would inherit the crown. (It's entirely possible she had more sons than that and they weren't recorded because they never came forward to press their claims. Since Hugh was ashamed of his mother, naturally he didn't come forward and announce he was a bastard child).
I dont think he executed willum, because of the way they showed him swing the sword. Almost looked like he cut his arm off. I wouldnt be surprised if he somehow gets them all satisfied with that much rather than execution.
No lmao he killed him, that's supposed to be the nail in the coffin for him when he had to kill someone who was loyal to him because of his pride that's why viserys said do you still want the crown
I support him up to a point. Again he had no control of his parentage but, he isn’t seeing things in a smart way. Bastards dragon riders are their best bet rather than riders of NOBLE birth. If i were noble and I acquired a dragon and became a rider…I’d help them beat the biggest dragon and then play chess until I’m the only one. 💅🏾 Imagine a highborn on Vermithor! You kidding me? No one could tell me shit.
@@Dramawitsvu17 But highborns have so much to lose than the lowborns if they betray their lord. They have to think of their family standing, their castle and given most likely their rivals, enemies for a long time. Lowborns don't have such things so they have nothing to loose.
"That took a lot, there is no power steering" LOL!! Funny way of mentioning that you noticed Vhagar wanted blood. :D I Think Ulf the White couldn't control Silverwing and she was happy to have a rider. Wow Silverwing looks good too btw! Very nice surprise! The finale is going to be insane, so much buildup since Rhaenys and Meleys died........If you wanna see Daeron, watch the trailer for episode 8. ;)
Ulf White claims his father is Prince Baelon Targaryen, son of King Jaehaerys I and Queen Alysanne. Prince Baelon is also the father of Viserys and Daemon. Baelon's sister, Princess Saera Targaryen is Hugh's mother, so that would make Hugh the cousin of Viserys and Daemon. Princess Saera is described as tempestuous, demanding, and disobedient. After a scandal and years of fighting with King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne, Princess Saera was sent to Oldtown. From there she fled across the Narrow Sea to Lys and started working in a pleasure house. Saera was known to have at least 3 bastard sons.
Scorpions can at best slightly inconvenience a dragon as big and old as Silverwing, unless operator gets ridiculously lucky and hits an eye (or the rider). Their scales are too hard to be penetrated by a scorpion bolt.
I remember these guys years ago, they were all unaware of what’s going on and up until now, they still know nothing😂 which is weirdly hilarious. Hahahahah
Hugh 's mother was Saera Targaryen ( According to show canon ) . Saera was a daughter of King Jaehaerys Targaryen . So Daemon , Viserys and Hugh are cousins
