House of the Dragon - Larys speaks with injured Aegon 

While it is clear that Larys is only manipulating the vulnerable Aegon here, you are right that there is a part of him that genuinely empathizes with Aegon, probably because they are both cripples that are not taken seriously by other members of their family

@@ilbb7055 he didn’t connect with Aegon. He didn’t mention anything that Aegon now cares about. He dumps his own story on him in order to gain leverage. He’s manipulating a dragon fire survivor to gain political importance AFTER Aemond treated him like smallfolk. This is not empathy. This is abuse.

Larys MIGHT have some genuine sympathy for Aegon, maybe. But everything he said here was calculating. He definitely wants him to survive and eventually get back into power, but with him as the king's most trusted advisor.

@@quakethedoombringer Yeah, good point. At this point what does Larys personally have to gain in protecting Aegon when he is barely able to even move? Larys genuinely does seems empathizes with him. Why else would he tell him his very personal story of what it’s like to be a cripple, as well as now to use it for his advantage, why else does he give him solid advice on how not to be manipulated by his councillors and why else does he sneak him out of King’s Landing at great personal risk?

@@nelsonchereta816 sure,Larys is loyal to Larys but there is some sincere form of empathy for the Aegon's plight as a cripple. His speech about how they, as cripples completely underestimated and pitied by their surroundings, have their minds as their greatest weapons, was so good for many reasons: It reminded me of Tyrion's pep talks to Jon, and it served as fuel for Aegon's future development into a more hardened, smarter and (mentally) stronger person. His speech also hinted at some less than ideal upbringing which finally gives some explanation at his ultimate lack of love and loyalty towards his father and brother.

2. Is wrong it’s consequences of his own actions, no one wanted him to be in that battle he went there drunk on impulse

@@eggheadusa9900 Which would not have ever happened if Alicent and Otto didn't destroy his confidence and under value him after forcing him to take the throne in the first place.

@@eggheadusa9900yes him flying to battle was his own choice. But he never wanted to be king, it was Otto that laid the groundwork for that to happen and Alicent aided it along. And had aegon never been king like he wanted he never would have need to go to battle

I bet you root for Tyrion.

@@thepimp31 that was clearly different

@@thepimp31book Tyrion bad, show Tyrion good until s6

@@thepimp31Tyrion is good in the show but diabolical in the books

@@infoosedWhy do you even think of comparing the two.One Tywin killed Tyrion’s first wife,was ok with exiling Tywin for a crime he knew he didn’t commit and had been cruel to him his entire life.Also he spared Jaimie

He supports Aegon because Aemond doesn't and sees him for what he truly is. I 100% believe if Aemond gave Larys the position he craves, he would've forgotten all about Aegon.

@@TJ-fe7rr It’s for a plethora of reasons, both are equally valid. Even though this is manipulative, there is truth in what Larys says.

@@TJ-fe7rr Aemond don't see nothing: he is a fool for underestimating Larys. You either kill a man like Larys or bind him to you, you don't insult him and than let him wander around the palace to plot and scheme. I think one of the running themes for Aemond now that he has power is that he will keep on underestimating people

@@ilbb7055 it's easy to say that as a viewer, because we all know how dangerous Larys is. But if you were Aemond, or anyone on the small council for that matter(apart from Alicent) you wouldn't know that.

@@TJ-fe7rr It's Machiavellian politics 101. If you make an enemy of someone, you'd better strip them of any power, lest they retaliate against you. insulting someone with the means to take revenge on you and then letting your guard down is basically the same as giving him a reason and then giving him an opportunity. Aemond is cruel enough to understand this, yet he takes half-measures constantly. If he were smart, he'd have made the Grandmaester his ally by bribery or blackmail, so that Aegon would die, but he lets the Grandmaester try to save Aegon and that risks Aemond's plan to steal the throne. As for Larys, showing such obvious contempt for Larys will piss him off, and only if Larys is spineless or stupid would that behavior from Aemond go unpunished. Larys is clearly neither, so turning him against you is just turning an asset into an enemy, which you should only do if you can get rid of that enemy easily. You don't need to have the power of audience perspective to know that its a bad idea to piss him off and let him live unsupervised.

loved that reference.

Crippled Aegon II will fight another legendary dragon battle again. I called it legendary because he was crippled riding an already crippled dragon. There was no such thing in the history of Asoiaf that happened. It's also not coincidence that Aegon and Sunfyre have the best dragon rider bond in the story. They're literally fused as one. He defeated a fresh from battle Baela, daughter of Daemon and definitely his strongest offspring. The show will definitely changed it tho because BOOKS ARE NARRATED BY SOMEONE 😂 hell yeah 🤣 only Rhaenyra kissing women power scene ✂ is canon 🤪

Goat ❤

Aegon next season on Dragonstone : " DON'T YOU KNOW ME ? I'M AEGON THE UNBROKEN ! YOU CAN'T KILL ME !!! AAAA !!!!! "

@@Silentpixel2024 it’s gonna be even more impressive in the show because moondancer is wayyy bigger in the show. Like literally bigger than Sunfyre. Sunfyre also downs another dragon, and possibly another one after that. He’s a mean little cannibal and his flames are so bright that they blind other dragons

Fucking 100 dude

No he isn't, Aemond denied him the position he craves , which is why he hobbled to Aegon's bedside, telling lies sprinkled with truth in hope to curry his favour and gain power.

He’s using him to keep his power. It’s Machiavellian. Its not outright harmful or anything but his intentions in being vulnerable and sharing his past was to galvanize Aegon and ultimately keep him in power which is all he craves. If Aemond never dismissed him, he’d have no use for Aegon.

Yeah, I also believe Larys empathizes with Aegon. He was trying to regain power by using Aegon again, but a part of Larys really empathizes with him.

@@zimetberry4010 Is he really lying though? Everything he said is true. Aegon is now mangled and he was relating that to himself and his clubbed foot which is obviously true. Sure he had intentions when talking to Aegon but the advice he gave him was all good council.

​@@zimetberry4010 Larys has nothing to gain with a cripple Aegon. It is not just that he “can’t” manipulate Aemond (that remains to be seen), it’s also that Aemond disrespected Larys. That’s also what pushed him over the edge back to Aegon imo, and got Larys commiserating with Aegon over how they are both disrespected and underestimated

WHO he is, not ''what'' he is. poppy milk is for pain, not just for highs, he can't just stop it like that.

Aegon is not built for this and will fold like he always has.

@@chrisw7718 bro has not read the books

@@chrisw7718😂I won’t spoil nothing for you, but let’s just say the “they will underestimate you” is set up for a pretty big payoff at the end

He and the golden boy did they sh*t.​@@coleheilgeist

Aegon is Lyonel's bastard confirmed

That was cruel and manipulative not to give him the milk though. Like not giving meds or anesthesia to a gravely ill person.

Strength has nothing to do with it. He might have the will but physical strength doesn’t save you from Dragonfire

​​​​@@SunDogGodhahaha that crippled Aegon literally jump on Sunfyre to survived a dragon crashed. Obviously the opposite of what Daemon did because he ain't no suicidal bastard. He's strong physically and mentally. After the fight with Rhaenys he got more experienced in battle. That is his character development but of course the show will change that shit

​@@SunDogGodCrippled Aegon II will fight another legendary dragon battle again. I called it legendary because he was crippled riding an already crippled dragon. There was no such thing in the history of Asoiaf that happened. It's also not coincidence that Aegon and Sunfyre have the best dragon rider bond in the story. They're literally fused as one. He defeated a fresh from battle Baela, daughter of Daemon and definitely his strongest offspring. The show will definitely changed it tho because BOOKS ARE NARRATED BY SOMEONE 😂 hell yeah 🤣 only Rhaenyra kissing women power scene ✂ is canon 🤪

The best liars mix the truth with falsehoods. It’s possible that he is being sincere about the hardships he had to endure because of his deformity. But he only shares them as a means of manipulating Aegon. He doesn’t actually care about Aegon, he just wants him as his puppet. His character is based on Shakespeare’s Richard III. In the play, Richard constantly talks about how horrible his life has been as a hunchback, but only as a way of garnering sympathy and excusing his crimes.

And to top it all off Otto is coming back either in the next episode or the finale

Probably because no one on Team Black besides Rhaenys actually does anything substantial. Daemon just casually commits warcrime and trips at Harrenhal, Rhaenyra is only now taking the war seriously and start recruiting people

@@quakethedoombringer What did Rhaenys actually do besides having a smug look and then die in an instant?

Last season was Team Black, this season is for the greens.

​@@quakethedoombringer At least Jace tries to get shit going.

Stop trynna impress people just cause u read what happened.

Aegon the Greenboy's sperm didn't make it to Dany though.

He kills Aegon in hopes of controlling the next king

I'm really sorry, I hope you can find the way to strongman your situation and live fully, as this is the only life we have

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I hope they show what the golden boi is doing right now. By the books he should be getting fed soldiers and Meleys's remains.

He will get mad eventually

​@@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225 no he won't

@@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225 Mad is perhaps a wrong word. Cruel and Ruthless for sure, but he does not go insane. It is quite interesting that the war changes him to a person and ruler, that he was meant to be, too late though.

@@mwvidz324forsure. He went from a lazy drunk dude who liked groping serving girls to being the biggest hardass in the whole dance. Literally like a vengeful spirit that just refuses to die and is completely unforgiving, so much it causes his own demise

Crippled Aegon II will fight another legendary dragon battle again. I called it legendary because he was crippled riding an already crippled dragon. There was no such thing in the history of Asoiaf that happened. It's also not coincidence that Aegon and Sunfyre have the best dragon rider bond in the story. They're literally fused as one. He defeated a fresh from battle Baela, daughter of Daemon and definitely his strongest offspring. The show will definitely changed it tho because BOOKS ARE NARRATED BY SOMEONE 😂 hell yeah 🤣 only Rhaenyra kissing women power scene ✂ is canon 🤪

@@Uhbutvytvyrvtrvwhat’s the even more crazy is. Aemond is disabled as well.

He’s gonna pop out and show them.

I hope it's a shocking surprise like "REMEMBER MEEEEE?"

How can he come back now if he's bed-ridden and incapacitated? In the book he was like for a year.

​@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 I don't think the writers care too much about the book material. That's pretty clear with all the changes. They're giving rhaena nettles whole storyline

I think it’s manipulation laced with truth

@@billmcdermott9647 could be…he did off his own family..so it’s not outside the realm of possibility

The best liars mix the truth with falsehoods. It’s possible that he is being sincere about the hardships he had to endure because of his deformity. But he only shares them as a means of manipulating Aegon. He doesn’t actually care about Aegon, he just wants him as his puppet. His character is based on Shakespeare’s Richard III. In the play, Richard constantly talks about how horrible his life has been as a hunchback, but only as a way of garnering sympathy and excusing his crimes.

I'd still give it to Veserys's slow walk to the throne in season 1 when trying to save Rhaenyra. This would come second to that.

@@uncommon8896 Now that you mention it, yeah i have to agree.. That scene was beautiful

Personally, I love the one where Otto was spazzing out on Aegon for being an idiot.

@@Shisui5752 that’s a good one too

Larys being called a toad was the best scene

And at 1:55 you can see a teardrop. Great acting

@@Uhbutvytvyrvtrv and the history books, thats why he is called Aegon the 2nd.

No, he's not.. he gives horrible lives to his bastards...

@@percyweasley9301 he is still the king, and will always be seen as it.

Otto was a hypocrite who was whining because he couldn't control Aegon.

Aemond is just a psychopath. Even Tyland and Criston wants Aegon back after Aemond sent them on a suicidal mission

I’d say Larys was pretty brutally honest here.

​@@woops9076 Not quite "brutally" honest. Larys is still delivering the truth in a soothing and supportive tone, as well as showing his own emotional weakness in order for Aegon to sympathize with him better.

Brutally honest means saying something true, or percieved truth in an aggressive and demanding tone. If you want to speak truth, especially to sway someone or relax, or come to insight.. you so it from a relaxed tone. ​@@woops9076

they are more similar than you may think, Tyryon killed his own family, his father with a crossbow and his brother and sister with his army wheter intentionally or unintentionally.

Nah, Larys would've stabbed him in the back anyways.

Yeah, Rhaenyra sucks this season. I don't know what anyone sees in her character, soooo boring. Makes you miss young Rhaenyra when she was actually exciting to have on screen.

Something must have happened in the writing when the show runners lost two episodes from the budget. Pacing is so messed up this season.

@@ManforSomeMarkets the budget is not the problem, they dont know what to say 🤣🤣 Is difficult just to introduce the Riverlands characters and the Black Council ??? That makes the season PROGRESS instead of making the same things 3 times with Daemon or Rhaenyra Even Alicent does different actions, even if she talks the same line of "peace and i want to rule"

@@Morfe02 Yeah at this rate the season will probably end with the DragonSeeds vs the Triarchy. Miserably slow.

Every single time Rhaenyra and Jace are on the screen : " You bore , you all bore me ! "

Larys is doing both, he knows that Aegon is the easiest path to power and he won't betray him or discard him like Aemond, but he also saw himself in Aegon. Westeros is not a good place for people with disabilities or physical flaws

Larys is the reason why Aegon killed Rhaenyra.

Reading the books yes you're in for a good treat with Aegon because he will do a lot of shit in the future that you'd never expect him to. He is a very unpredictable character.

@@fayedunaway8 so will he be like a change person? Of course because of his injuries but mentally will he be stronger ??

@@Jwcmbr oh he'll be stronger yes mentally

​@@fayedunaway8physically too if you think about it . He refused poppy milk and even after he fell 100 feet from the air and broke both his legs he still refused it becuse he didn't want to cloud his mind . I'd say he got stronger overall

they did greens dirty and evil in the series, they were good brothers in the books

Let them tear each other apart. Why should we care about the greens?

That guy nails every role he's in

I think the most brilliant thing to me is that it feels like Larys is doing both. Larys knows how it feels, the emotion he has regarding being a cripple and how people treat him seems very real, but at the same time, he’s only having this conversation with Aegon because Aemond shunned and disrespected him. Seeking his best interest, still, but still having enough heart to converse with Aegon sincerely. I thought this scene was incredible for that tbh. Excited to see where these two go from there.

Book Tyrion is evil

That's an L take if I ever saw one.

@@Regenmacher175 Nah at this point this show is GoT S8 tier except dressed up in a more pretentious cloak. Good scenes are rare and usually carried by good acting.

@@gfdgfdagfagfa It's really only the Rhyneyra and Alicent scenes that are truly bad. The writers wanted to subvert Fire and Blood by making the 2 queens good-natured but it's just made them dumb and boring.

Too woke for your liking?

@@gfdgfdagfagfa go back under your bridge, you troll.

Also he's a *apist

Nonsense, he didn't even descend at Rook's Rest, it was Rhaenys who casually showered everyone on the ground with dragonflame. Btw, the shots of disintegrated soldiers burned by her are in plenty, you are free to rewatch the episode.

@@GemGames3yet you people were cool with Daemon going after a little boy

"If you were one of the relatives of the rat catchers". Lmao it's just a show these rat catchers don't exist... and people are allowed to like characters they consider entertaining. And I bet you didn't complain like that when Rhaenys killed thousands at Aegon's coronation or when Daemon killed his wife with a rock

Ned Stark beheaded a poor deserter who was scared shitless and had fled after seeing a white walker!!! Jaime killed his cousin, r*ped Cersei next to their son’s dead body and pushed Bran out a window, The Hound killed the butcher’s boy, Daemon killed his wife with a rock !!! Rhaenyra had a servant killed to be able to marry Daemon…Theon killed two innocent boys… This is GRRM’s universe and it is full of grey characters. These characters are fan favorites !! I LOVE Aegon the character in that universe and I’m not sorry. I do feel sorry for him.

Daemon kills kills his first wife, choked his third wife, order to kill a child, dreaming about sexing own mother. But still people loves him. Its pretty normal give sympathise for aegon in this situation

The writers tried to make him worse in season 1 than what he was in the books, so people don't feel much sympathy for him. Also, the world of A Song of Ice and Fire is full of bad people doing something good or having redeemable treats and good people sometimes committing atrocities. Grey characters, there's no such thing as good against evil

Aw, look at Condal and Hess' little puppet, who faithfully ate up all the made up TV propaganda against Aegon. Bet you also think Stannis burned his daughter, because D&D told you so with their fanfic. Besides, nobody cares. No more than Daemon stans care about his own atrocities.

I don’t know how else to tell you that it doesn’t matter, lol. He’s not real, how people feel towards fictional characters is not indicative of their true morals. Aegon’s characterization, especially this season, way more prominently focuses on the “Unloved insecure child who is desperate for love and acknowledgment” side of his character, and less so “Spoiled prince who watches children fight and assaults servants”. Complex characters will always be received differently. I’m allowed to detest his vile actions just as much as I am allowed to pity him for everything he’s been through. I don’t know why that’s difficult to grasp.

My brother in Christ, we don’t forget. It’s a fictional story with fictional characters. You can root for Daemon like most others and forget that he’s arguably the most evil character in the Dance. We root for Aegon because he’s morbidly complex and is the best written, not because we like his deeds.

Larys' main gripe with his family was that despite being loved and protected, he was never taken seriously and always seen as weak or needing protection or pity.

Get over yourself and go touch grass it’s just a show

Neither Aegon or the soldiers are real. people are feeling sympathy for him because he is a good character... That's all

The showrunners said that he doesn't know about his bastard children.

That's hilarious coming from the user named after a big simp for people in power. Percy's level of bootlicking was worse than Pycelle's, who at least was just pretending and wasn't naive like the former.

Yes . And ?

A legal one. Rhaenyra and Viserys I violated sacred laws by trying to usurp a noble family and the Iron Throne with bastards. This is a feudal monarchy, and Viserys had his own duties and vows, thus he had no right to abuse his position. Therefore, Aegon's the rightful king who usurped a corrupt heir who is guilty of high treason with her thieving children.