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How 3-round burst works 

Stealth The Unknown
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This short video aims to explain how the M16 3-round burst mechanism works in comparison to full auto and semi auto. The mechanism was invented by Foster E. Sturtevant under a colt patent, US3292492A.
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Burst kit in reciever scene download: www.algodoo.com/algobox/detail...
Burst vs. Auto vs. Semi scene download www.algodoo.com/algobox/detail... (Used in this video)

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@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
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@Hairysteed
@Hairysteed 8 лет назад
+Stealth The Unknown Sorry! :( I'm just used to doing things in this order: 1) watch video 2) read description 3) comment 4) read other comments
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+Hairysteed all good. Do be sure to check out the link I posted
@tedpeek76
@tedpeek76 7 лет назад
Good rules for every instructional video on RU-vid.
@Likesubscribable
@Likesubscribable 6 лет назад
***** hey do you have akm47 versions?
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 4 месяца назад
@@Likesubscribable not yet. I will look into those. I’ll post those, eventually.
@Project_EG2
@Project_EG2 8 лет назад
thumbs up for the only 3 round burst explanation video on the internet
@3lbtrigger
@3lbtrigger 6 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YvNZOVLAabw.html
@ElectricGun100
@ElectricGun100 3 года назад
Not anymore, I'm from the future 😉
@amankumar3335
@amankumar3335 2 года назад
@@ElectricGun100 yeah 2022 July
@YaM0MsAh03
@YaM0MsAh03 Год назад
@@ElectricGun100 its april 20th of 2023 and its the only one I’ve found 🤷‍♂️
@user-qo3yy9nv1u
@user-qo3yy9nv1u 11 месяцев назад
I've always wondered
@Reman1975
@Reman1975 Год назад
Here in the UK, the question of how various guns work doesn't really factor particularly highly in the average persons mind, but when some random question like "How the hell do those guns I just saw in [Title of some random film] count off a 3 round burst?", it's nice to know that someone on RU-vid's usually already made an easy to follow video explaining it for us. So thanks for taking the time and effort involved to make/upload this mate. It may be entirely unnecessary knowledge for me, but I learnt long ago that information doesn't have to be useful to you personally to still be interesting. :D
@otetechie
@otetechie 7 лет назад
If you give the trigger a short quick squeeze that only sends out two shots. the next time you pull the trigger it will only fire one shot before disconnecting. Or if you fire a single shot while in burst mode, the next time you pull the trigger it'll fire two shots. And the burst cam also counts when you are in semi auto, so the first time you switch to the burst mode it is more or less random if the gun will fire one, two, or three shots in it's first burst. And to make matters even better, the trigger weight varies depending on the position of the burst cam. so every third trigger pull is lighter than the other two, even in semi auto.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 7 лет назад
otetechie I should refer people to this comment, as a lot of people ask about this.
@SlingandStoneVideos
@SlingandStoneVideos 7 лет назад
That was exactly what I was curious about when I scrolled down, thanks for sharing.
@vance8832
@vance8832 7 лет назад
So basically, burst fire sucks.
@GhostZodick
@GhostZodick 6 лет назад
3 rounds burst sounds like a bad idea if it works that way.
@amandahammond2691
@amandahammond2691 6 лет назад
Quincy Owyang It was introduced in the 1980s as a way to prevent the M16A2 from being made a semi auto only infantry rifle. Eugene Stoner also didn't design it.
@TopShotDustin
@TopShotDustin 4 года назад
About halfway through this video a helicopter flew over my backyard and shot my dog.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 4 года назад
Lol
@spotat6234
@spotat6234 3 года назад
Well that's not good...
@duwla1913
@duwla1913 3 года назад
What?
@duwla1913
@duwla1913 3 года назад
Fr or a joke?
@BlakeGibbons
@BlakeGibbons 3 года назад
@@duwla1913 yea for real.
@TGriggs2003
@TGriggs2003 9 лет назад
I'm 29 years old and have wondered how 3 round burst works for at least the last 11 years and in the past 8 minutes you answered that and many more. Thanks for a great video.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
travis griggs Happy to help!
@MILITATED
@MILITATED 5 лет назад
I have never known how burst fire works, until now! Explanation (both visual and audio) was perfect, super easy to understand. Thank you!
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 5 лет назад
Militated | ライト welcome bro :)
@spotat6234
@spotat6234 3 года назад
@@StealthTheUnknown How do you make guns in Algodoo? Before you tell me to download the thing in the description, I just want to say that I mean to make my own guns.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
@@spotat6234 I literally have a series on this subject, check out my page
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
@@spotat6234 also, that’s not something someone can answer well in a comment. Lots of things made with algodoo in general are the result of hours of tweaking and work - some even took days or over a month!
@mattlord2906
@mattlord2906 5 лет назад
It's like when the Swiss were asked "what will you do when the Gemans come that are twice the size of your army"? They replied. "We will shoot twice and go home"
@sonnyragland7135
@sonnyragland7135 2 года назад
Or when japan sent germany "the worlds smallest drill bit" and Germany sent it back with a hole drilled in it
@nguyentuan1990
@nguyentuan1990 9 лет назад
eugene stoner is a freaking genius
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
Tuan Nguyen It depends on what you define as a "genius". If by genius you mean "mechanically clever and resourceful," then yes. But it takes a true mad scientist to design pretty much anything H&K puts out. ;)
@giggitygarrett
@giggitygarrett 9 лет назад
***** And that all started with Hugo Schmiesser and then the Gerat 08/H team.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
indeed.
@lordofwar1441
@lordofwar1441 8 лет назад
too bad he wasn't genius enough to know to use a gas piston rather than direct inpingement garbage
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+Dylan Stubenrauch right on, dude. One of the few reasons I prefer Kalash over this
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
Ladies and gents, the sig version has been figured out as well. Holy shit, I feel like the Swiss overengineer more so than us Germans! I'll have the video up eventually. Working 8 days a week lately, but I'll get it done :)
@Gurfi28
@Gurfi28 7 лет назад
Was just wondering wether my SG550 is working the same.. looking forward to your video.
@eisenkrieg553
@eisenkrieg553 7 лет назад
Stealth The Unknown The Swiss are basically Germans that have no concern for being economical about their designs. Take weapons for instance; the Germans have a history of fighting wars and they needed to take that into account with their designs. The Swiss simply have the freedom and wealth to go all out.
@Airsickword
@Airsickword 7 лет назад
what program do you use
@James01100011
@James01100011 7 лет назад
Nice video.... All those years I carried one of these and didn't know exactly how it worked.
@thatboywhocantsnipe
@thatboywhocantsnipe 7 лет назад
James01100011 what branch?:)
@Bean_dip
@Bean_dip 7 лет назад
ClassicRaids tree branch
@dmaxm2498
@dmaxm2498 6 лет назад
He must of been Air Force because they don’t teach you how to fully dissemble a M-16 or even how to fully clean and run function checks on an M-16/M4. I am army but my brother younger brother and my dad are Air Force and I had to teach both of them how to break your weapon down properly and how to clean it and run a functions check. They don’t even do bayonet, AT4, Claymore, and live grenade training in their basic training LOL oh yah also they don’t teach how to operate the M203 and many other things. I mean their basic training is only six weeks that’s why I always give them a hard time and call them chair force
@dh7164
@dh7164 6 лет назад
DMax M249 No, us POG mos in the army only conduct operator-level maintenance on M16. We don't touch the trigger group or we go see NCO and sign some papers and maybe get paid a little less next month.
@FITFO
@FITFO 5 лет назад
@@dh7164 I never knew how it worked until army bct we cleaned our weapons so much and me being a gun nut I got to know how it worked lol got our m4s day 3 of basic and I had it figured out by day 4
@BFFsEngineer
@BFFsEngineer 8 лет назад
God bless you with unlimited amounts of pizza
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
What kind of pizza?
@BFFsEngineer
@BFFsEngineer 8 лет назад
Anything with cheese and bacon on it
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+BFFs Engineer oh god. Death by cholesterol, I suppose. Thanks for watching
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+Eugene Johnson haha
@dsbiddle
@dsbiddle 6 лет назад
EFFING HILARIOUS! HAHAHA
@andrewnase
@andrewnase Год назад
I used the M16A2, with 3-round burst, in the US Army from 94-97. I could see the cog down in the receiver, but never knew how it all worked. Thank you!
@garrettsturkie8489
@garrettsturkie8489 6 лет назад
This video is without a doubt the best step-by-step description of exactly how we are your trigger function in semi three round burst and full auto! Thank you sir for dumbing it down for me.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 6 лет назад
garrett sturkie the pleasure is mine, sir!
@mattrittman
@mattrittman 2 года назад
Thanks so much man, this was a very helpful explanation!
@limabravo6065
@limabravo6065 Год назад
I hated three round burst when I was in the military but I was always curious as to how it worked. Thanks dude
@SHiTJuFro743
@SHiTJuFro743 7 лет назад
hey nice upload. I feel like it's important to learn how a gun works more than just "you press the trigger, and a bullet comes out."
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 7 лет назад
JuFro743 very true. Thanks for watching!
@pilsnrimgaard2507
@pilsnrimgaard2507 7 лет назад
Very nice computer modeling, explains all three very well. Thank You.
@TrevorBrass
@TrevorBrass 9 лет назад
The intricacy of some Phun/Algodoo models will never cease to amaze me. Fantastic work.
@99pppo
@99pppo 8 лет назад
Thank you so much for uploading this man! I've been wondering for a very long time about this!!!
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
So did I! Took me many many months to find this info.
@MrMd5555
@MrMd5555 9 лет назад
Nice video! So much easier to understand with the visual aid. Thanks for sharing
@yung-megafone
@yung-megafone 2 года назад
I've always known full auto switches but burst blew my mind. Thanks for the video, my mind is a little less blown by the magic but nonetheless a neat concept. Thanks for posting the only video that shows this mechanism in detail. Thumbs up to that and if I see more of your videos, you'll definitely be earning a sub!
@arnomaas6452
@arnomaas6452 7 лет назад
excellent video, couldn't be more comprehensively illustrated and explained !
@jordanwiggins1093
@jordanwiggins1093 4 года назад
I've always wondered what happens if the disconnect and hammer gets worn out from over use but it almost looks like it would malfunction to full auto but the auto sear holds it until the bolt closes so it really would just malfunction. Great video! You just saved me from a felony science experiment lol!
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 4 года назад
jordan wiggins don’t file the disconnector! It’s an unreliable and semi-permanent mod that’s pretty obvious, and it isn’t worth the legal problems
@undisputed1one
@undisputed1one 2 года назад
If anyone is curious, burst was initially introduced to let the shooter fire multiple rounds while not having to worry about when to let off the trigger. Which decreases mental effort and increases endurance in long firefights.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 2 года назад
Precisely! “Shotgun mode”, where it’s a short pattern - like full auto, but less “full.”
@CantoniaCustoms
@CantoniaCustoms 2 года назад
Ironically binary triggers basically do the same job but in a more intuitive way. But nobody tell the ATF that.
@MarilynStangl
@MarilynStangl Год назад
When the M16 was first issued to troops in the field (Viet Nam), they would sometimes 'panic' and fire full auto as the 'norm'! Because the rifle is so light weight, it is almost uncontrollable in full auto. So troops (especially 'green' troops) would often fire off their entire combat load in the first few minutes of a fire fight! I have read that the VC noticed this and would deliberately only have one or two of their soldiers (especially in a ambush situation) fire semi-auto to get the US troops to fire most of their ammo right away and then be almost defenseless against the VC's attack/ambush! A three-round burst rifle (not full-auto) would theoretically reduce or stop this wasteful practice!
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
Ladies and gentlemen, I've finally gotten the HK Burst kit cracked! Special thanks to the individual who provided resources to figure it out. EXPECT A VIDEO EXPLAINING THAT MECHANISM BY NEXT WEEK! Thank you all for the love and support; you guys rock!
@raybowers3670
@raybowers3670 7 лет назад
You sir have made a great instructional video. Keep up the good work!
@donaldcho21
@donaldcho21 8 лет назад
by far the coolest video ive seen on youtube about how fullauto and burst selection works.
@TheDkb427
@TheDkb427 2 года назад
I was thinking it was a spring but it's a cam wheel with notches. Makes more sense to me now. Thanks for the video man.
@fixman88
@fixman88 7 лет назад
This answered a whole lot of questions I had about how this system worked! Thanks very much for doing this!
@charlesferdinand422
@charlesferdinand422 5 лет назад
He didn't "do" anything; he downloaded this design it's free for anyone to download, he didn't make it.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 2 года назад
Yes I did: here are the download links, provided by yours truly, ngphil, aka STU: www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=84150 www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=84718 www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=84741
@PlugNuster
@PlugNuster 8 лет назад
Very cool video dude. Well made and informative. Thanks. Thumbs up.
@gonzisonsbc
@gonzisonsbc 7 лет назад
Great video. The M16 I trained with in the Coast Guard had 3 round burst.
@TheFish711
@TheFish711 7 лет назад
Thank you for making this. I'm a visual learner and having a moving model of this machinery really helps, plus you have the only demonstration of this on the internet.
@TRHOG
@TRHOG 7 лет назад
Very well done young man!!!
@Krakatov
@Krakatov 8 лет назад
Great video. Very detailed and informational.
@devinlinn126
@devinlinn126 4 года назад
We should not consider a rifle with a 3 round burst to be "fully automatic" it only looks scarier, but honestly in most combat situations, US Marines use the single round burst due to accuracy. A 3 round burst makes sense for the movies or for certain situations where you require suppressing fire, which is only intended for advancement on a battlefield. For actually clearing rooms, a tactical shotgun is the preferred method, in conjunction with explosives. Gangway H.P. Lovecraft
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 4 года назад
Agreed. I like to thing of burst as “shotgun mode,” but the atf doesn’t see it that way. Yet. Or that FA, et al, should be guaranteed firing modes to gun owners, since “shall not” isn’t up for debate and I paid for the ammo and get to fire it how I damn well see fit. My rant, take it or leave it.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 4 года назад
Devin Linn also, binary triggers and the gods of feathering the trigger kind of make the whole full-auto ban obsolete. I can shoot a .22 rimfire self-loader like a 10/22 about 700rpm just feathering the trigger. I’ve dumped mags through them that way with pretty good accuracy, about as practical as a true full auto lmao.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 4 года назад
Devin Linn or, you know, belt-loop bump-firing. Or bump-firing from the shoulder with a specific kind of grip. Can only really do these with something more substantial like an intermediate cartridge or full-power round, ARs/AKs or larger-bore rifles where the recoil makes it possible to do these. I may also post a video soon on a certain kind of trigger soon that uses trigger slap and an extra part as a slap in the fucking face to the NFA. The letter boys can take their auto ban and shove it up their ass haha
@jackphilamore288
@jackphilamore288 5 лет назад
Thank god for this. Everyone on RU-vid trying to tell me the difference between a variety of 9mm loads. Something actually challenging to learn!!
@jonesperkins1382
@jonesperkins1382 4 года назад
That is really interesting. I knew there would be some sort of system for interrupting it knowing what I know about basic mechanical things. For some reason the simplest idea of a cog type wheel never entered my mind the stuff I envisioned was much more complicated LOL
@MachineGunMike
@MachineGunMike 8 лет назад
Absolutely awesome video man! Seriously, thank you!
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
You are welcome! Thanks for watching :)
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
Hey, are you THE Machine Gun Mike I hear about every now and then? The collector out in Texas?
@MachineGunMike
@MachineGunMike 8 лет назад
***** LOL you hear of me? Now that's hilarious. Yes, that's me.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+Machine Gun Mike I feel like you're mentioned in videos I watch from time to time. I think it was Hickok45 or some other, not quite sure. Either way, thanks for watching :)
@hobbes2555
@hobbes2555 8 лет назад
Great explanation, thank you for showing the basic mechanics and not rambling on about other things in the video. Concise and to the point. I'd like this twice if I could.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
Yes, thank you! I did my best to avoid tangents and things of the sort, as they always agitate me when watching tutorials or educational videos. Thanks for watching!
@CarveyKeitel
@CarveyKeitel 5 лет назад
And now I know... and as we all know, knowing is half the battle. Hands down, the best explanation of semi, full, and 3 round bursts, on the whole interwebs. Thank you.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
thank you sir!
@Braeden123698745
@Braeden123698745 6 лет назад
Excellent video. And a very nice model
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS 9 лет назад
Fantastic video! Great explanation. Like the physics program too. Very cool.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
Very cool indeed! Thanks for watching :)
@violatorut2003
@violatorut2003 4 года назад
Wow. I have considered guns to be the most elegant machines in the world. I just didn’t know how elegant they were. Very clever, simple solution to a seemingly complicated problem.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 4 года назад
Eh, burst fire was initially developed, as I’ve heard it described, as “a mechanical solution to a training problem.”
@lordofwar1441
@lordofwar1441 8 лет назад
Very very cool! I spent 4 years in the Marines and every time we would clean our M16 I would always try to figure out how exactly it worked. I had an idea but this is much easier to understand with this video
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
Oorah! Glad to help out, dude
@hippo-potamus
@hippo-potamus 9 лет назад
Wow man you have some pretty badass computer graphics skills! Great rendition and explanation! Outstanding video. -Cheers
@charlesferdinand422
@charlesferdinand422 5 лет назад
No he doesn't have any "computer graphics skills"; he downloaded this design it's free for anyone to download, he didn't make it.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 2 года назад
www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=84741 Here's the page to the download link on MY scene, from MY profile on algobox. please shut the fuck up and stop spamming.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 2 года назад
www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=84741 Here's the page to the download link on MY scene, from MY profile on algobox. please shut the fuck up and stop spamming.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 2 года назад
www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=84741 Here's the page to the download link on MY scene, from MY profile on algobox. please shut the fuck up and stop spamming.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 2 года назад
www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=84741 Here's the page to the download link on MY scene, from MY profile on algobox. please shut the fuck up and stop spamming.
@REVALG
@REVALG 9 лет назад
Great detailed illustrative work! I love details on thoughts and reasoning behind the actions. My brain is wired in a way that need to make sense of things by knowing the steps involved. Also helps me absorb the whole picture. Sweet programing!!!! Thank you for the video! Please keep up the good work. I appreciate you and you channel greatly. Love, peace, and harmony. Rev. Al G.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
Thanks man! that means quite a lot to me :)
@bearly1727
@bearly1727 3 года назад
The M-16 only had full and semi auto but with very little practice you can easily get consistent 3 round bursts by touching the trigger just right when you are in full auto.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
Hit-and-release, yeah
@ernst_junger
@ernst_junger 6 лет назад
I think it's absolutely amazing to learn about these little feats of engineering that are so clever. Thanks dude
@StraightShootingTalk
@StraightShootingTalk 8 лет назад
Thank you for the detailed explanation. That helps clear it up. My only complaint is there is WAY TOO MUCH FORNICATING ZOOMING !
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
waaay late response, but I thank you for the comment. I've since gotten better about my audio, camera work, and commentary. thanks for the watch!
@funshootin1
@funshootin1 7 лет назад
btw, I love the animation. .really simplifies explanation. . I'd love to see an animation on the "lightning link" or "registered auto sears" for the AR.. another cool animation would be the glock fssg endplate that drop in and make standard glock into select fire ...those things are just so amazingly simple by design but have to be really well made to exact dimension due to timing of the breech locking up
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 7 лет назад
funshootin1 i'd be interested in looking into that. I know how the 18's FA works, but I imagine the endplate selector works similarly.
@jymbyrlyyarmulkeshekelberg1490
@jymbyrlyyarmulkeshekelberg1490 2 года назад
This is one of the best and most Informative videos I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much for making it and keep on making videos. Your animation was fantastic and your explanation was clear, concise, and easy to understand. Thank you again
@SW737Flyer
@SW737Flyer 7 лет назад
I just found this video. Great job, great explanations and your narrations were outstanding! I like that you took your time and explained it thoroughly!
@bradleyhomer3590
@bradleyhomer3590 8 лет назад
I'd just like to point something out where you were slightly off, you said that if the hammer fired off too early, it could result in catastrophic malfunction, which is wrong, it will simply ride the bolt forward and not fire, because it doesn't strike the fireing pin with enough force, which is easily demonstrated by tying down your seer, or bumpfiring to fast, it is an action known as outrunning the gun.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+Bradley Homer this is true, but I was trying to make the point that it is dangerous and unreliable to have the hammer follow the bolt forward. Though it is rare that this causes any kind of out-of-battery firing, it HAS happened when "outrunning the gun." The results have always been undesirable in those circumstances
@bradleyhomer3590
@bradleyhomer3590 8 лет назад
I've tried to make guns fire like that, but I could never get it to happen.
@godlyk3
@godlyk3 8 лет назад
+Bradley Homer I was just getting ready to point this out.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+Jason Cox this is so wrong, but I'll elaborate further since you are sort-of on the right track. It won't fire after the first shot if you remove the disconnector, as the hammer will ride the BCG forward (bolt carrier group.) However, some people have allegedly filed the interface on their disconnectors to temporarily catch the hammer, but cause it to slip soon after, effectively turning the mechanism into a rate reducer. This mod is highly illegal, though, and I'd advise against it.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+Jason Cox fair enough. I'd imagine if the firing pin wasn't shrouded, the issue could occur. I'd venture the disconnector had bad engagement rather than being missing.
@machete417
@machete417 9 лет назад
Thanks for sharing. One more life question answered.
@ronwalsh
@ronwalsh 8 лет назад
Lots of great work on that animation. You have made it much easier to visualize how the parts interact with each other. Thanks. Semper Fidelis
@ulkesh78
@ulkesh78 7 лет назад
Thanks for the vid, still hard to find a vid on how 3 round bursts work. Really cool to see it in action with this program. Always been curious about it, such a simple and effective design.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
Mark Scoble It has been a challenge to find the information on the Stoner Burst Kit. I have had very little luck on the HK or Sig variants, but I have tried. maybe some day I'll get some ffl and own a few, or the U.S. Govt. will become a bit more compliant to the constitution. Who knows?
@geGNOME
@geGNOME 9 лет назад
***** If you check out Gun Disassembly 2, it comes with a Sig 552 model in which you can get a decent look at the burst system.
@martinstojanovski9106
@martinstojanovski9106 9 лет назад
***** If you are interested,I have an HK book that describes the burst mechanism of MP5 in detail.The book has 28 pages and it has pictures.This animation was very good and I would love to see the burst mechanism of MP5 in a video like this.I can send you the book, if you give me your email. I also have a question.I already knew how the Stoner burst mechanism works, but I was never able to wrap my head around how the movement of the hammer rotates the cam backwards.You said that it is some kind of ratched mechanism.Actually there is a spring between the hammer and the cam, but I cannot understand how this spring rotates the cam backwards.If you know how this works,I would be thankful if you can help me to understand it.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
Catching Fire from what I've seen, there are actually little indexes on the inside of the cam that the spring engages on when the hammer is pushed backwards, but the spring slips over them when the hammer drops. it's essentially a ratchet mechanism with two moving parts: the hammer and spring, and the cam wheel. I'd LOVE to see that book! Thanks for offering to show me :) find me at stealththeunknown@yahoo.com
@martinstojanovski9106
@martinstojanovski9106 9 лет назад
***** Thank you,it's more clear now.I didn't know how the spring engages with the hammer and the cam.Still if you know of a book,site or some pictures that depicts this,please send me a link. I have send you the book on your email.It would be great if you can make an animation of the HK burst action,since the HK system is more complicated and more difficult for people to visualize.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
I will take a look and work on it. Thanks!
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
Everyone, I can't reply if you have replying disabled! I'd love to answer a lot of your questions, but sometimes that reply button isn't there. If you can do it, allow replies. Thanks!
@iceboxxer494
@iceboxxer494 4 года назад
You just click on the comment to comment on it
@Mr_Green892
@Mr_Green892 8 лет назад
Thank you for your effort. The simulation was very helpful. Great job explaining the 3 round burst.
@laurenconnor9817
@laurenconnor9817 8 лет назад
very nice illustration of the logic and mechanism of action for 3 burst mode. Nice job!
@Statureman
@Statureman 9 лет назад
Educational. #engineering
@bigred2989
@bigred2989 9 лет назад
What happens if you let go of the trigger mid burst?
@DarkFiber23
@DarkFiber23 9 лет назад
bigred2989 It stops firing. So, assuming you fired only one shot on burst mode, you'd only fire two shots the next pull of the trigger. This was one of the reasons that burst capable M-16s were phased out, so I've heard.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
If Arnold Schwarzenegger were using one and stopped mid-burst, he'd say something like, "you have been terminated". It'll do exactly that, and your next pull will pick up where your last one left off. If you fired one first, the next would be two. If you fired two, the mext would be one. Best bet is to just hold onto the trigger until it stops, release, and hold again
@charlesferdinand422
@charlesferdinand422 6 лет назад
Stealth The Unknown I see you tried too hard to be funny and failed miserably there, just answer the fucking questions, no forced jokes and that's that. Oh and fuck yourself.
@Tatusiek_1
@Tatusiek_1 6 лет назад
Charles Ferdinand Damn, why are you so hostile?
@drew1299
@drew1299 5 лет назад
@@Tatusiek_1 he is probably a liberal
@mdj391
@mdj391 6 лет назад
Super impressive vid! Lots of work went into this, and it's evident!
@JustinFontes
@JustinFontes 8 лет назад
thanks for taking the time to explain this. you did a great job putting the info together.
@danf1862
@danf1862 Год назад
Colt had another patent for a burst fire trigger group for the M16A1 - US4004496A from 1977. It's more complicated and I don't think it was adopted for use. I haven't ever seen one, but there may be some old timers out there that have. I'm very familiar with the burst fire group discussed in this video. Genius design, to be sure. Great explanation!
@xxskizzumxx
@xxskizzumxx 9 лет назад
never in my 5 years or so of being an absolute full time firearm enthusiast have i seen this explained so clearly. i always could understand the mechanics of a full-auto AR rdias, but have never seen a working model of the burst "cam?" in action like that. thanks for vid, learned a ton. subscribed
@xxskizzumxx
@xxskizzumxx 9 лет назад
i will share with anyone who is interested enough to listen
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 9 лет назад
xxskizzumxx Please do! And thanks for the support! This questing has been bugging me for YEARS, so I went to some of the most remote and hidden places on the net, even sites that were NOT in German or English (my two primary languages) to demonstrate the mechanics. With those many months of being a cybernaut on a quest to find the answers, I finally did, and put this together to demonstrate it.
@rzr2ffe325
@rzr2ffe325 6 лет назад
I had a malfunction once where my M4 was placed on semi. It fired when I pulled the trigger and then fired again when I released. Your video helped me understand what happened. The metal on the front part of the trigger, the sear, probably wore down. Disconnector caught the hammer, but upon release of the trigger, wasn't caught by the sear and the hammer sprung forward and wasn't caught. Thanks.
@Hulka396
@Hulka396 8 лет назад
Thanks...I appreciate the time you took to create each action from each position of the selector. Great illustration!
@Veckoza
@Veckoza 2 года назад
Back in 2013 I joined the Marine Corps, and in boot camp I disassembled my M16A4 and saw how the Semi-auto worked but while looking at the internals of the weapon and switching from Semi to Burst over and over, I was always bewildered by how burst fire worked with the only visual difference being the disconnectors being slightly ajar. Now I know lmao.
@TwentythreePER
@TwentythreePER 8 лет назад
Excellent explanation and video. A fellow gunsmith and I were just discussing this subject and it's very helpful to be able to see it in action. Thank me for taking the trouble to do this.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 8 лет назад
+TwentythreePER glad I could provide a visual diagram to demonstrate this with :P
@vader88x
@vader88x 7 лет назад
dude this was awesome. I had always wondered how the gun "knew" to stop after 3 shots. This explained it perfectly. Thank you.
@vikingsoftpaw
@vikingsoftpaw 7 лет назад
Well done Stealth. This is the first-ever cad/cam video I've seen on the burst mechanism.
@hubeee9447
@hubeee9447 8 лет назад
clear and simple explanation how this works! All thumbs UP!!!
@xaiano794
@xaiano794 6 лет назад
excellent video with clear explanation. RU-vid needs more of these.
@jamal69jackson77
@jamal69jackson77 5 лет назад
Freaking cool graphic animation of the 3 AR fire selections.
@Enrahb
@Enrahb 4 года назад
Very rarely do I find a video as informative as this. Thank you.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Poeticwizard
@Poeticwizard 7 лет назад
That is a fantastic video! Very well done sir! Thank you for this, I have not saw it this layed out before and it is very nice to see all the different parts.
@michaelshive6748
@michaelshive6748 6 лет назад
Many thanks! Always wondered how a burst worked and here it is. May the Force be with you!
@tedpeek76
@tedpeek76 7 лет назад
Thanks for the video. Simple. To the point. With visual explanations. Perfection.
@criagcundiff2469
@criagcundiff2469 Год назад
Excellent illustration for my simple pea-brain. I had no idea how that worked. Now I understand it completely. Thank you.
@davidh5130
@davidh5130 3 года назад
Wow, I finally found this video. Amazing job, I love how simple but beautiful the mechanism is
@yoshr7424
@yoshr7424 4 года назад
Good video, simple, straight forward, perfect for showing concept of the mechanism in action. Keep up the good work. I would like to see a series of videos that highlights the mechanics of iconic firearms, such as the one shown. Thx
@Scarywoody
@Scarywoody 5 лет назад
Great video. I've always wondered how a burst worked. That software is amazing.
@vixrse
@vixrse 8 лет назад
Thank you so much!!! I've been looking for a good explanation video on trigger mechanisms for months and had been unable to find one until I found this video.
@rorschach8585
@rorschach8585 4 года назад
Outstanding illustration (motion sickness-inducing in-and-out zooming notwithstanding).
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
yeah, I do apologize for my lack of experience panning properly when I made this. I've gotten better about that. thanks for watching!
@viper11791
@viper11791 6 лет назад
Awesome demonstration, thank you!
@roccocroce
@roccocroce 9 лет назад
What a fantastic modeling. Greatly appreciated by the educational community.
@Goodellsam
@Goodellsam 2 года назад
The best explanation I have seen. You need an award.
@jasonwestlund7714
@jasonwestlund7714 6 лет назад
Excellent video...it couldn't have been more simplified and technical. Very hard to balance both...well done!
@kalenawa9285
@kalenawa9285 7 лет назад
Excellent video! Thank you for taking the time to make this. I can only imagine this took a while to design and create. I have a better understanding of the trigger group.
@JasonSpiffy
@JasonSpiffy 5 лет назад
I swear RU-vid can read my mind. I was having a conversation with a buddy on the rifle he used when he served. He told me that it was full auto and now it may use the three round burst. That is when I got to thinking about how the mechanism worked. A day later this pops up in my feed.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
probably the phone hearing keywords to feed the algorithm. they collect information from you constantly to recommend things that may be relevant.
@jamespearce7954
@jamespearce7954 6 лет назад
Great video on trigger functions. Great graphic.
@ronalddavidleindecker3358
@ronalddavidleindecker3358 5 лет назад
I'm a former SF/18B. This was an excellent demonstration and explanation. Well done, young man. De Oppresso Liber.
@matthewshaffer9377
@matthewshaffer9377 3 года назад
Awesome, very comprehensive. Thank you for making.
@maxf1450
@maxf1450 8 лет назад
I had no idea abut that cam wheel! 3-round burst was a mystery to me until I saw that. Thanks for the awesome vid.
@ZombieWilfred
@ZombieWilfred 7 лет назад
Excellent video. I think a lot of people talk about how much better 3 round burst is than regular full auto (it does have practical advantages, but one should be using full auto for bursts anyway, it just takes more training...) without realizing that it is a bit more complex mechanism to make, more parts to break or have something go wrong etc... That being said it's a pretty well designed mechanism that works well and isn't prone to failure.
@iamiancamp
@iamiancamp 4 года назад
Excellent job on the video. Thanks for the info. I gave my lowers and full auto and burst kits to a fellow SOT to install for me. Now on the next one I will do it myself. Thanks.
@StealthTheUnknown
@StealthTheUnknown 3 года назад
trigger components are actually pretty easy to install, if you know what to do. there may be a few things to pay really close attention to, like springs and making sure they are positioned the right way. otherwise, things go pretty straight-forward. thanks for watching, and enjoy your giggle-switch adventures! (maybe invite me for a couple mag dumps some time?? :3 )
@BHLCaptainDja
@BHLCaptainDja 6 лет назад
Always wanted to know about this. Amazing how easy you made it to understand
@shortspecialbus8333
@shortspecialbus8333 7 лет назад
Thanks for this - the explanations I'd read didn't really make sense without the visual. So, thanks a ton!
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