How a HEALING ORNN SUPPORT got MASTER 

LETS FUCKIN GOOOO

sadly doesnt work on garena servers

Durability patch was not well executed at all, most of my champions got butchered by it, and overall made most mages feel like garbo (beside viktor... viktor always fine.)

@@Nyppaah Veigar got really good too, because of his scaling and general safety in lane. He's so much harder to dive now, which was always his weakness.

@@Nyppaah That kind of patch should have been in a preseason, only god knows why riot thought it would be a good idea to do it in the middle of the season.

Love your videos happy been trying some of these crazy builds been trying my own special actually panth support / jg ( bodrk ,manamune , wit end and black cleaver last item is always optional, boots aswell ) sadly im not otp of panth but hey been chilling for a while and got gm ,master and challanger fun tho (LAN server) Gonzaloo , Gonzálo and Gonzal0

@@juliantrasak7230 I honestly don't mind riot doing huge patches like that and shaking everything up besides just in preseason. helps the game being fresh.

I love soraka and healing, so I was so happy when moonstone came out. I had to try it on every champion. I really loved burn lillia with moonstone haha

Hopefully Leona top for me can do it

theres literally lucian and talon support like 💀💀💀💀

Is like a rule 34 but for supports xD

@@CharlieCabralos monster.

tyty :)

Orn sp with Senna adc (cc from far away which set Orn Q and E easier to land, Senna give heal and shield from her kits which benefit moonstone which is Orn mythic). Pair this with a Kayle top and vola, we have 2 monster range adc late game with Orn upgrade worth of 1k gold each time he does, on top of that we can have Hecarim (or Nunu for early gank) as jgl so he can camp gank top side so Kayle will scale further into late game lmao. For mid we can have an ap assassin like Leblanc or Fizz (as the main source of ap so enemy team cant counter it without buying resist items which only 1 champ does ap).

@@kyquocthangle4501 Kayle is still so hard to play in this meta, though. Her scaling comes online so late that it's common for games to be decided before she can make a big impact. This isn't to say that playing Kayle with Ornn is a bad choice (just the opposite, in fact), but a lot of solo queue teams just don't know how to play around her properly. She's very hard to carry games with, as a result. Ornn still works great with one of the four horsewomen of top (Riven, Camille, Fiona, Irelia), all of which are generally safer picks.

its funny to remember that he used to be the top of the meta as a DAMAGE CARRY tank when he was released due to his ridiculous amount of damage paired with his perma cc

@@slavchems4759 his dmg isnt crazy, just that his brittle scale with %hp like Lilia passive so you think that it is crazy, he is kinda like Darius where every ability apply passive stack but Orn has 2 brittle abilities, E and ult to cc (his brittle is another minor cc displacement, bring up to a total of 4 hard cc in his kit and a slow Q)

@@kyquocthangle4501 his damage is normal now, but back when he was released he do 1000 magic damage with a full combo, not counting his max health damage, its literally enough to oneshot a squishy

:) glad you liked it

Pair it with a anivia

Maybe against Samira, Nilah or engage supports

I use to play poppy support and it was pretty good

@@Walk1ngSk3ll3t0n disgusting

will do sir

The more you roam the worse Nilah is, and ornn doesnt have early healing or shield so its even worse, only good thing is making ornn reach masterwork levels faster

Scale spike at 13, survive just as good as Leona Alista, better R, better dmg. Con: slower combo

same and i’ve gotta try this

I cannot find him in any leaderboard...

How reliable is his stun combo compared to other tank supports?

@@emred4653 It's dependable, so long as you have terrain around you, and your ult.

@@emred4653 against champs without blinks/dashes, hitting q guarantees knockup even against high movement speed champions like lillia so its very reliable.

Glad to hear :D

@@MrZodra bro which adc should my friend play with when im ornn supp?

@@VipasMine something with cc. Jhin, Ashe, Jinx, Cait does wonders.

@@MrZodra okei

You can but it ends up on the very edge of the bottom of the bush, so its much worse than ornn's which goes to top of bush + sees choke point. So its honestly BAD to ward on a normal supp as it can bait you in to a bad fight without proper vision. Bad vision is worse than 0 vision

Actually I have figured this one out, if you stand in the cubby area closest to that bush hover your ward over the bush bringing your cursor closer to you until your cursor stops being green and you should be able to get the ward every time

@@drifftedsneeze2426 is it possible that you can make a picture to show where to stand? I can't seem to get it ^^;

With a pixel perfect standing location + Ward click(outside the ward circle) it does work. Very hard to do quickly I think unlike ornn W into wall - which anyone can do imo. Also most important - the normal ward goes in a terrible spot in the bottom of the bush - ornns ward goes in a really useful spot in the middle/top so it spots that chokepoint too.

@@HappyChimeNoises Oh yeah good point I normally just get one at the beggining of the game

@@Ice135Cold You stand exactly where the Ornn stood in the video but try and get as close to the wall as you can

I refuse to believe that you are the man, the myth, legend HelpfulLarry

Fancy seeing u here Larrold

Very kind, thank you :)

4 minute clear? id ff anyway

i think you meant to say 3m15s 😅

@@TAHTAWYu64 no in my elo you have to factor in the junglers death timer after they died to raptors :D

@@just_randomly omega lul

Yeah, but it has a longer cooldown and costs a ton of mana. And Trundle usually goes the minion share support item which gives no mana regen.

@@Baba_Lemonade that doesn't really matter since this is only being done to the first spawned minion wave to gain a lvl 2 advantage because of the ghosting they get

It's funny cuz this is what they do in Dota, you body block the melee minions so the ranged minions go in front meaning they die faster and the wave is pushed towards you

You also end up taking the wrong first ability. Orn q is his poke tool, but trundle usually takes q firsf

@@alex2005z you can't really poke with trundle anyway, he's pretty much an all in champ like amumu and if you have a guaranteed lvl advantage your gonna lvl pillar second anyway for the hard engage to blow all sums or kill them. Typically you wanna save your health until lvl 2/3 when your able to full combo with melee sups so even if you start q you probably won't be able to use it anyway

me too

He is in our discord and I'm sure he would be happy to help if you @ him! Very kind guy

@@HappyChimeNoises Oh nice ill send him a message thanks! :))

happy birthday my friend

@@HappyChimeNoises Thank you ChimeNoises you're awesome!

what's a kick reaction

True but much more risky as enemies can bush camp

You can but it ends up on the very edge of the bottom of the bush, so its much worse than ornn's which goes to top of bush + sees choke point. So its honestly BAD to ward on a normal supp as it can bait you in to a bad fight without proper vision. Bad vision is worse than 0 vision

it definitly wont get picked, LS would most likely actually be really against it. In proplay supports almost never make it past level 12, so his passive is completly worthless, so not only would it take someone going completely off meta its also way worse for proplay than soloq

By the way happy chime noises explains stuff, he can convince everyone that full ap Garen is a solid pick

Chogath watching the scene smiling in the Dark.

@@Masterpouya Cho is dogshit from my experience but could just be me. Lategame he’s a monster but you’ll never be able to reach late against non-bots.

Sejuani and Rammus are both doing well at the moment.

@@fastcow7013 that 25 ad does matter tho

@@fastcow7013 you underestimate how much stats these items give to 5 players lol

@@fastcow7013 orn also gains bonus tank stats too. I mean it a ton of gold value lol what are you even saying

Edit: For more info about the weird interactions: Vigilant Wardstone The upgraded form of Wardstone has a unique passive: "Unique - Blessing of Ixtal: Increases bonus attack damage, bonus HEALTH, ability power and ability haste by 12%." Ornn's passive also gives 10%-30% bonus Health. After an hour of math and Practice tool, the tl;dr is that Ornn gets compound interest on his bonus HP with the super Wardstone (he gets MORE than (+10-30% Bonus Health) + (+12% bonus health). Here's some math from messing around in practice tool: Watchful Wardstone gives +150HP which becomes +165HP +150 bonus health + 10% (15hp) = +165 health. Vigilant Wardstone gives +150HP+12% HP : +150 bonus Health + +10% (15hp) + 12% (18hp) = 183HP However on Ornn you actually get +185HP. The tooltip for Ornn's passive is the right number (15) but Vigilant Wardstone's tooltip indicates it grants +20HP (not +18 like the math says it should). It turns out, it's a simple 'order of operations' thing: the game calculates the bonus HP from Ornn's passive FIRST, then adds the +12% from Wardstone on top of that. So instead of (additive): (Bonus HP) + (Ornn Passive) + (Wardstone Passive) +150HP + 10% (65HP) + 12% (18HP) (150) + (15) + (18) = 183 Bonus Health You actually get: (Bonus HP AND Ornn Passive) + (Wardstone Passive) +150HP + 10% (65HP) = 165 165 + (165*0.12) = 184.8 (rounded up to 185) Let's Double check our math with Warmogs + Wardstone. Additive: +800 Bonus Health + 150 Bonus Health = +950 Bonus Health +950HP + 10% (95HP) + 12% (114HP) = 1159HP However Warmogs actually grants 1170 bonus health! Again, Ornn's passive tooltip is the right number (95) but Vigilant Wardstone's tooltip is +125HP (not +114) You actually get: +800 Bonus Health + 150 bonus health = +950 health +950 + 10% (95) = 1045 (1045) + (1045*0.12) = 1170.4 Which we see in game.

Just checked it on Anivia: Just Vigilant Wardstone grants +18hp Warmogs + Vigilant Wardstone grants +114HP.

I highly value this comment, good job :)

@@evanswindells5519 Wow thanks for the math! I guess that Ornn passive is still calculated before even at bigger levels (more mythic upgraded) What about the interaction of a full hp build with the solar Cape?

You can but it ends up on the very edge of the bottom of the bush, so its much worse than ornn's which goes to top of bush + sees choke point. So its honestly BAD to ward on a normal supp as it can bait you in to a bad fight without proper vision. Bad vision is worse than 0 vision

You can but it ends up on the very edge of the bottom of the bush, so its much worse than ornn's which goes to top of bush + sees choke point. So its honestly BAD to ward on a normal supp as it can bait you in to a bad fight without proper vision. Bad vision is worse than 0 vision

Yeah its on the wiki :)

There is also a comment about it where somebody calculates the values for you

Ya

Don't think so unfortunately, unless top lane leashes. Even this doesn't work against bot lanes who go straight to their lane instead of leashing jg.

You can but it ends up on the very edge of the bottom of the bush, so its much worse than ornn's which goes to top of bush + sees choke point. So its honestly BAD to ward on a normal supp as it can bait you in to a bad fight without proper vision. Bad vision is worse than 0 vision