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How a siege of Mecca changed the Muslim world | 1979 Grand Mosque Seizure 

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@jazztheglass6139
@jazztheglass6139 3 месяца назад
A lot of people have completely forgotten this pivotal event.
@sherlockgnomes8971
@sherlockgnomes8971 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately, many people do not like talking about their negative history
@Butter_Warrior99
@Butter_Warrior99 3 месяца назад
I never knew about it.
@mu0FFpu0FF
@mu0FFpu0FF 3 месяца назад
Many people are simply unaware. How many Americans you think know about the the Hajj?
@belhinaniabdelkhalek6481
@belhinaniabdelkhalek6481 2 месяца назад
@@mu0FFpu0FF Muslims themselves don't know about this,because in a way,it shows that mecca is not as protected as they think,yikes ... !
@ah-sf8kp
@ah-sf8kp 2 месяца назад
I didn’t even know till last year
@lubnasaleh2858
@lubnasaleh2858 3 месяца назад
Saudi here, this was a very good retelling of what happened, albeit pretty short and summarized missing very interesting details. I wish this show would be a little longer 28-30 mins with more in depth coverage of historical events, but overall good job. Good to see Aslan getting the recognition he deserves 🤩
@iberionbaratheon7927
@iberionbaratheon7927 2 месяца назад
Saudi here as well, there are some mistakes, for example, Juhayman's predecessor didnt rebel because of westernisation, he rebelled with the Ikhwan because the Saudis limited their raids into kuwait, jordan and other nations as King Abdulaziz wanted to consolidate his gains, they declared the King a kafir for doing so, and for dealing with the British later on.
@stark2667
@stark2667 2 месяца назад
@@Seevawonderloaf Thank you! everyone likes prince MBS here, he's really changing Saudi to the better.
@saaid7927
@saaid7927 2 месяца назад
@@Seevawonderloafpajeet, there is no progression within islam. Islam fits all times, everyone that tries to change will see the effects themselves.
@عبدالسلامالشهراني-ن8ف
​@@Seevawonderloafhe is loved by most saudis
@Stinkydodo
@Stinkydodo 2 месяца назад
@@Seevawonderloafwe love our government and the royal family
@DangArif
@DangArif 3 месяца назад
Very intriguing paradox. The man failed his mission, but achieved his objective.
@piraliraza
@piraliraza 3 месяца назад
That was always the plan
@riplikatlnloki5091
@riplikatlnloki5091 3 месяца назад
Now Saudi is reforming again
@denizhantutar1680
@denizhantutar1680 3 месяца назад
many prominent figures in religion history are like that, Jesus failed to start a rebellion and become king of jews but became a God that's followed by many more who seek liberation from Roman rule for example
@toniventura2985
@toniventura2985 3 месяца назад
tell me how ... saudi arabia is more western than ever before.
@audiohourtapes7632
@audiohourtapes7632 3 месяца назад
@@piraliraza doubt it.
@nachgebaut4176
@nachgebaut4176 3 месяца назад
I actually never knew about this, even as a muslim.
@ami_jaay
@ami_jaay 3 месяца назад
My father's friend's mother was there during the siege and you should listen to her telling the story, it'll give you goosbumps!!
@RuachDyen
@RuachDyen 3 месяца назад
@@ami_jaayis there a place I could listen to it?
@intello8953
@intello8953 3 месяца назад
I mean Yasir Qadhi did a whole lecture on it many years ago 🤷🏾‍♂️
@fantasyEXX
@fantasyEXX 3 месяца назад
If this event didn't happen, most muslims wouldn't be practicing muslims today. Many muslims were very secular back then and a literal interpretation of the holy texts wasn't a thing yet
@handriawantaufik3030
@handriawantaufik3030 3 месяца назад
It happened twice, there's something similiar like this in 1800's.
@uncannybeachboys
@uncannybeachboys 3 месяца назад
This is why, as a US citizen, I try to watch as much English language foreign news as possible. I'm 53, was 9 in 1979, and don't ever recall seeing this mentioned in US news. Thanks.
@waisinglee1509
@waisinglee1509 3 месяца назад
You do know that it was highly unlikely that any Western reporters were stationed in Saudi Arabia at that time, right? Even now, how likely is it that you get any sort of news report out of there?
@TomasFunes-rt8rd
@TomasFunes-rt8rd 3 месяца назад
We had a newspaper story about it plastered on the wall of our 7th Grade class.
@tortoisewarrior4855
@tortoisewarrior4855 3 месяца назад
Well thing have improved a lot since 1979. If this happened today it would be all over the news. At the time it was underreported everywhere even in much of the Arab and Muslim world, I know many Muslims that don't know this ever happened. It's good to see people talking about it again.
@FF-ds9xw
@FF-ds9xw 3 месяца назад
Even I am as an Indonesian (a muslim majority country) didin't even know the history yet
@dreamersdisease2481
@dreamersdisease2481 3 месяца назад
I have never heard of this in my life and I try to stay relevant with the goings on of the 🌎
@deedofi7970
@deedofi7970 3 месяца назад
My family is from mecca, my great uncle was a security guard during the seizure and my father was a young boy who lived within a stonesthrow of the whole ordeal. I grew up hearing stories from people who actually experienced this and it was very interesting to see an official video about the topic. Thanks!
@usmanbaloch1392
@usmanbaloch1392 3 месяца назад
My great grandfather was actually performing Hajj during this event
@huda2379
@huda2379 3 месяца назад
Was it true that some people believed him?
@ada0015
@ada0015 3 месяца назад
thank you for your great uncle service. I'm Indonesian and can't speak arabic. I can't imagine how it feels like if I was there
@erickbyarushengo4726
@erickbyarushengo4726 3 месяца назад
@@usmanbaloch1392wait, I’m hearing about this for the first time now. But this event actually happened during Hajj??? I assumed it took place at some other time when there’s a high number of people traveling to Mecca for Ummrah. But I would have never thought it happened during Hajj. They left that crucial part out in this video.
@jostasizzi818
@jostasizzi818 3 месяца назад
Yeah some people did believed him and even some scholar were feared to give opinion against him that is true brother​@@huda2379
@ahmed_pulath
@ahmed_pulath 3 месяца назад
My father and mother's father were there in Masjid al Haram when Juhyman and his people took over the Grand mosque. They managed to escape the siege.
@kriston-rosshogan9926
@kriston-rosshogan9926 3 месяца назад
Aslan pahari!!!! Im so happy for you!! Love that you came from tiktok and now you're on the bbc RU-vid channel!!! Love this so much for you
@PapaSeanX5
@PapaSeanX5 3 месяца назад
My favorite historian from tiktok has made it to the big leagues!! I'm happy you made this transition. You cured a lot of my historical ignorance and I'm grateful 🙏🏾
@GoldenGully
@GoldenGully 3 месяца назад
My guyyy with the long format! 🏔
@Shaukat_ali13
@Shaukat_ali13 3 месяца назад
Lol I’m the only one who found your comment😂
@Erlik_Kreuze
@Erlik_Kreuze 3 месяца назад
Didn't expect you to be here
@Research.3735
@Research.3735 3 месяца назад
Yeah!!!!!!!! Nice to see you here brother , How are you?
@LabzPro
@LabzPro 3 месяца назад
hello!
@Mo-ik1fo
@Mo-ik1fo 2 месяца назад
❤❤
@najibh477
@najibh477 3 месяца назад
رب أجعل هذا البلد آمنا مطمئنا و سائر بلاد المسلمين
@watermelonsugar6909
@watermelonsugar6909 3 месяца назад
The narrating tone and style is superb 🌟
@phnelson033
@phnelson033 3 месяца назад
His TikTok content is non-stop gold.
@mohamedashroffahamed5075
@mohamedashroffahamed5075 3 месяца назад
I was on a pilgrimage in 1979 this incident was unaware for us after we reached overland back to Riyadh then only we knew that there was an uprising in the holy city. I remember certain youths were distributing handbills (leaflets) we couldn't understand arabic.the news was really shocking for us .alhamdu lillah we returned safely Thank you very much for this video very much appreciated
@namelessentity5851
@namelessentity5851 26 дней назад
An odd question; Al-Otaybi wanted to usher in a more conservative Islamic way of life in Saudi Arabia, so he and his cohorts stage an armed insurrection inside the Grand Mosque, spilling blood in the process. However, by Islamic law, violence is strictly forbidden inside the mosque... did it not occur to him, Al-Qahtani, and their followers that they were committing an immensely sacrilegious crime against Islam by doing this? I know this is a weird question, but it does have me perplexed. Thank you in advance for any illumination.
@rjamsbury1
@rjamsbury1 3 месяца назад
Love Aslan's narration, so calm and authoritative
@ItsSaf01
@ItsSaf01 3 месяца назад
The thought of Mecca being threatened is something I could never have never imagined happening
@arcturus4762
@arcturus4762 3 месяца назад
Do remember that it is prophesized that a black man will take the stones to the sea. It will happen, eventually.
@verfed
@verfed 3 месяца назад
Mecca has been conquered a few times in the past 1400 years. The Ka'aba has even been destroyed multiple times. One time even by just a flood.
@GrandMasterM2112
@GrandMasterM2112 3 месяца назад
Sadly has happened handful of times in Islamic/Arab history (Qaramita, Abdullah Ibn Zubair RA khilafa etc)
@meti333
@meti333 3 месяца назад
its been conquered a handful of times after the prophet
@thepotatoarmy980
@thepotatoarmy980 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately the Kaaba was destroyed multiple times in history. In fact it was in the first 100 years of Islam that it was first destroyed
@Torres257
@Torres257 3 месяца назад
Very well produced and informative
@Dhuhbfhh
@Dhuhbfhh 3 месяца назад
This is the guy from tik tok. Great work, working with abc. Love your videos
@AlFatman
@AlFatman 3 месяца назад
Hello my friend! Incredibly informative, and Aslan is an incredible host. Can't wait to see more of him.
@chatchkhamphet5619
@chatchkhamphet5619 3 месяца назад
Very insightful, thanks. Could you do an episode on the Treaty of al-Hudaybiya? Also, it would be helpful if you could suggest some books for further reading at the end of each episode.
@Sunny-jj6tp
@Sunny-jj6tp 3 месяца назад
Damn s/o Aslan been watching your reels on social media for years. Great to c u get this type of gig.
@bzalfalasi
@bzalfalasi 3 месяца назад
never heard this story before, investigations into the history of this region are interesting. Hoping to see more :)
@yuseffxyz
@yuseffxyz 3 месяца назад
damn pahari, i've been a fan since your early days on tiktok!
@never_give_up944
@never_give_up944 3 месяца назад
Very interesting and liked the unbiased, straight to the facts approach!
@AnthonySheehan-dn2fs
@AnthonySheehan-dn2fs 3 месяца назад
Very interesting I never knew something like this ever occurred in Mecca
@olajuwon17
@olajuwon17 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this great piece! There's an awesome book about this event called "The Siege of Mecca" by Yaroslav Trofimov. Goes into great detail behind this forgotten chapter!
@meshajity
@meshajity 3 месяца назад
Bro I remember watching Pashari’s videos on TikTok a couple years ago, this guy is really coming up!
@strides6625
@strides6625 3 месяца назад
Great video, more of this documentary style please ABC, very interesting
@SaraanSarangi
@SaraanSarangi 3 месяца назад
throughout my bachelors's degree in IR I tried my best to research on topics like this one but unfortunately such topics arent valued much in isamic countries. we like to rely on basic topics.
@BengalTiger12
@BengalTiger12 3 месяца назад
That’s the problem with our ummah. Majority of the Muslims don’t know of our history and accomplishments. How do we expect to rise again if we don’t know how we rose in the first place??
@SaraanSarangi
@SaraanSarangi 3 месяца назад
@@BengalTiger12 my professors used to consider such topics as conservative and based on conspiracies. Unfortunately most of our social science professors in Muslim countries are cowards
@kofiasare269
@kofiasare269 7 дней назад
In 930 another branch of Islam carried the Kaaba away and held it for 20 years
@streetrossi4966
@streetrossi4966 3 месяца назад
Very nice documentary…. I recognise you from twitter
@rokzcoban4394
@rokzcoban4394 3 месяца назад
I swear I watched this only for Aslan, I already knew about this but this guy is something else.
@Cybernaut551
@Cybernaut551 24 дня назад
Thanks for reporting this, it reflects a lot of issues that continue today.
@matthewivanjudeponciano1354
@matthewivanjudeponciano1354 3 месяца назад
I love your voice!!! You really sound like a seasoned historian / old medieval english font 😂❤
@comment978
@comment978 2 месяца назад
id really appreciate it if such a noble man like aslan pahari spoke on the history of the kurds: their rich history, their attempts at independence (eg treaty of sevres and the republic of mahabad), and their oppression both in the past (ottoman empire) and the present (turkey/iran). this video was great btw 👏
@alst4817
@alst4817 3 месяца назад
Wow, I never heard of this! Thanks so much!
@someofmyvideos774
@someofmyvideos774 2 месяца назад
Good video. I think most people don't realise Saudi Arabia historically was no where near as strict as it had become in the 80s. As an example, for some tribes and regions it was common for women to be unveiled.
@frilink
@frilink 3 месяца назад
Came here from tiktok...... glad you've made it to mainstream......
@shantanusawant7688
@shantanusawant7688 11 дней назад
It's great that influencers/youtubers are getting mainstream opportunities! I hope RU-vid stays free.
@hannahweldu2114
@hannahweldu2114 3 месяца назад
OMG AMAZING TIKTOK GUY! IM PROUD OF YOU❤
@leelicayan2549
@leelicayan2549 3 месяца назад
HELLO MY FRIEND!!
@danishviking5068
@danishviking5068 3 месяца назад
Good informative video. Glad to see Aslan having grown from my cellphone screen to be broadcasted by an outlet such as ABC news
@darnellsimpson4413
@darnellsimpson4413 3 месяца назад
I've never heard of this, until now. Thanks Professor!!!
@BouncingClown1
@BouncingClown1 3 месяца назад
This man has a great voice for narration
@xuserakx
@xuserakx 3 месяца назад
He’s pretty famous on TikTok
@eyeofhorus99
@eyeofhorus99 3 месяца назад
Hello my friend. Thank you for highlighting an event that I never knew happened. Now I want to research more about it.
@mhick3333
@mhick3333 3 месяца назад
This is like fundamentalist evangelicals storming notre dam
@Shivom.Parihar
@Shivom.Parihar 3 месяца назад
Not at all, they would not find Notre Dame very holy. More like TradCaths capturing the Vatican.
@ontwricht
@ontwricht 3 месяца назад
The protestans did storm churches.
@Cadence733
@Cadence733 3 месяца назад
In what sense?
@artman12
@artman12 3 месяца назад
Notre Dame isn’t as important. More like the St Peters Basilica
@asserkortteenniemi4878
@asserkortteenniemi4878 3 месяца назад
Not the holiest site for christians tho
@Aeros802
@Aeros802 3 месяца назад
As a history buff, I had absolutely NO idea this event occurred, wow. The last known time I've known about Mecca under attack, was during the Crusades by Reynald.
@hannalanabanana6081
@hannalanabanana6081 3 месяца назад
Incredibly and smoothly explained 👍🏽 I am now a fan and will be following you for further videos !!!
@nervesandminds
@nervesandminds 3 месяца назад
First, I saw your content in Tiktok. Immediately I started following you. Happy to see you in this platform also.
@shekuahmaddansoko
@shekuahmaddansoko 3 месяца назад
Real informative. بارك الله فيكم وجزاكم الله خيرا.
@angelgutierrez3245
@angelgutierrez3245 3 месяца назад
So happy to see one of my favorite content creators doing things like this! I'd love to learn more about world affairs like the split between India and Bangladesh
@cutemedli7
@cutemedli7 3 месяца назад
OMG YOU FINALLY HAVE YOUR OWN SHOW!!
@aasteiny
@aasteiny 3 месяца назад
Fantastic analysis Aslan. Thank you for your work!
@amitkumar-wj8gn
@amitkumar-wj8gn 3 месяца назад
There is a wonderful book by Yaroslav Trofimov, perhaps the only book of its kind, on this subject. A must read for those who wish to know more on this.
@saadmughal5478
@saadmughal5478 3 месяца назад
Hey Aslan, great video
@esporter5721
@esporter5721 3 месяца назад
Brilliant to listen too. Impartial and very well narrated
@evangreenberg1666
@evangreenberg1666 3 месяца назад
Ya just stated the facts of what happened and the history. No sides, no agenda, just good ole history. And I’m a white Latino Jew who’s agnostic and I thought this was super interesting
@kailenmcauley8216
@kailenmcauley8216 3 месяца назад
Congrats on hosting a segment on the ABC. I've been watching your tiktoks for a few years now
@caseclosed9342
@caseclosed9342 3 месяца назад
I read about this in the World Almanac when I was a kid. Now I’m adult and learning about the full story…
@mogayt5156
@mogayt5156 3 месяца назад
Both of my grandpas were a stun soldiers(a soldier trained for every kind of scenario) and they fought in this battle
@nirajpardeshi2555
@nirajpardeshi2555 3 месяца назад
Your way of explaination and story telling about a topic to audience is great 👍.
@noodledaddy3234
@noodledaddy3234 3 месяца назад
no way Aslan Pahari?? i've been following him for so long
@AfricaMiSeh
@AfricaMiSeh 3 дня назад
I knew this story about ten years ago listening to Sheikh Abdul Hamid Kishki friday sermon the first friday after the incident. He called the so called Mahdi " The Mahdi of Israel". He pointed out to a particular verse in Quran that miraculously talked about this incident.
@MrDoom885
@MrDoom885 3 месяца назад
If the Mahdi came, Muslims would know. That man was not the Mahdi.
@Natalie-fj7fs
@Natalie-fj7fs 3 месяца назад
How would you know?
@karlscher5170
@karlscher5170 3 месяца назад
How would they know?
@HashShYT
@HashShYT 19 дней назад
@@karlscher5170they’d recognise it. It’d just be like that.
@kamaldaruwalla6172
@kamaldaruwalla6172 3 месяца назад
Great documentary!
@raedwulf61
@raedwulf61 3 месяца назад
I remember this as I was a teenager and an avid reader of newspapers.
@StephySon
@StephySon 3 месяца назад
Shame this all happened, truly a shame. This must’ve been heartbreaking to the Muslim World, and it slowed progress in the country
@zacharyfindlay-maddox171
@zacharyfindlay-maddox171 3 месяца назад
Wow, I'm 43 and this is the first I've ever heard about this event!
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz 3 месяца назад
This is so awesome to hear history from a less western centred perspective.
@genesislauu1641
@genesislauu1641 3 месяца назад
There's also a great episode on this from the podcast Throughline called, "The Siege of Mecca" - very in-depth and excellent storytelling! Makes a good companion to this video :)
@kabdul9208
@kabdul9208 3 месяца назад
Finally my boy is made it to ABC!
@FaeiryneFaun
@FaeiryneFaun 3 месяца назад
Hellooo my friend! Best host ever, good choice ABC
@Cascadia007
@Cascadia007 Месяц назад
This is the first time I ever heard of this event.
@sherlockgnomes8971
@sherlockgnomes8971 3 месяца назад
A very bizarre situation - if he was the “real Mahdi” , why did he need to take the holiest place in Islam with weapons and force 🥴
@davidex4197
@davidex4197 3 месяца назад
Interesting information
@nawaf9058
@nawaf9058 3 месяца назад
Sultan was not his grandfather but he was the sheikh of his tribe
@xanderalaniz2298
@xanderalaniz2298 3 месяца назад
Interestingly enough, my dad owns a book called the Siege of Mecca, about this exact incident, and I read it as a teenager. It's surreal knowing of it considering how very few even mention it ever happened...
@alicetiner
@alicetiner Месяц назад
The show must be longer with more details and events. Next, a video on Buddhism?
@DiegoMarquesBrazil
@DiegoMarquesBrazil 3 месяца назад
Very interesing, never heard about it before
@hollysaga
@hollysaga 2 месяца назад
Thats an excellent journalism i did a research about this back in college i live in saudi and i had access to the national recourses here and you covered almost every point correctly except the fatwa of “ in times of necessity the forbidden becomes halal “ regarding the American or French units, also thats why saudi took a deep dive into conservative dark decades because of the majority of muslims worldwide back then were extremely conservative so we needed to become the mirror of the majority of Muslims and we went through a dark phase mostly in the 90’s called “ al sahwa “ which means the wakening till mbs came to power almost 8 years ago go and dramatically shifted the country’s vision to modernization.
@shaikhalvee
@shaikhalvee 3 месяца назад
Interesting! I didn't know such thing happened.
@Preciousillusions
@Preciousillusions 6 дней назад
Came her from tiktok to see the whole thing
@5Seed
@5Seed 3 месяца назад
I've never heard of this before. This is super interesting!
@jojor9766
@jojor9766 2 месяца назад
That was not the first time something like this happened. Back in the tenth century, the Qarmatians took over Mecca and sacked the Kaaba. They removed most of its valuables including the black stone. The leader challenged Allah and asked where the birds were that were promised to defend the Kaaba according to hadith. The black stone was broken into pieces and ransomed back to the Muslims.
@user-tb5hs6pf2m
@user-tb5hs6pf2m 3 месяца назад
1:40 He's not his grandfather 😂 They're from two completely separate parts of the tribe. Juhaiman is *Al-Ruqi* Al-Otaibi, while Sheikh Sultan is *Al-Muqati* Al-Otaibi.
@Melodysys.
@Melodysys. Месяц назад
ASLAN PAHARI MY BELOVED!!!
@AveragePakistaniChild
@AveragePakistaniChild 3 месяца назад
Bro I never knew about this until today and I am Muslim…
@mueezadam8438
@mueezadam8438 2 месяца назад
Because you are young and/or consume mainly western-oriented media. Even something like Al-jazeera is partially western-oriented as it discusses topics with an eye towards how they fit in the east-west exchange. To understand a nation I recommend going to the ‘local news’ and translating it to your native language, it is a good experience to appreciate how many struggles our brothers and sisters face across the world
@Graviti00
@Graviti00 3 месяца назад
Please make videos about Kedarnath being plundered and so many temples in India... Itll be awesome of you can ...
@From.the.river.to.the.sea23
@From.the.river.to.the.sea23 3 месяца назад
جيهمان صار international ✨ صارو يسمعون قصصنا نفس مانسمع قصصهم
@SarandipitiX
@SarandipitiX 2 месяца назад
This is fascinating. I’d never heard of this before. However, I was born in 1979, so that explains some of it. I’m familiar with Iran and the hostage crisis and Egypt and Israel though. Thank you for sharing this story. Wish it were more widely known in the US. Sad and unfortunate those poor worshippers were caught up in all that mess
@sebastianniqvist3144
@sebastianniqvist3144 3 месяца назад
8:50 Yes I would like to learn about the ISLAMIC OCCUPATION of Spain and Portugal from the year 711 to 1492 and how Christianity and European Civilization “triumphed” over Islam and how even after 781 years of Muslim occupation Christians kept their faith and present day Spain and Portugal are Christian countries. Care to make a video about that?
@dhikabjir18
@dhikabjir18 3 месяца назад
Thank you for creating this remarkable video; however, I believe it understates the significance of the Wahhabi movement during that period.
@kiuk_kiks
@kiuk_kiks 3 месяца назад
I’d watched a video on this exact event a few years ago and totally forgot about it. But throughout the video, I remember that the Saudi state ended up stopping secularisation of the country and became a very conservative repressive religious culture with a lot of surveillance and counterterrorism apparatus to ensure a repeat of this event wasn’t possible. They also had to emulate the Iranians to counter them geopolitically as the Iranians were condemning them for falling away from their previous religiosity and westernising as opposed to staying religious and therefore becoming illegitimate.
@zohaibayyaz
@zohaibayyaz 3 месяца назад
Salam. Thanks for this insightful video. I would like to know more about Iranian revolution. Thanks
@jellynonmous9473
@jellynonmous9473 3 месяца назад
its crazy how my grandpa went there as a saudi that rlly transformed us i agree wit ht his dude
@sophitsa79
@sophitsa79 3 месяца назад
You're on ABC now! Wow! Congratulations! Know you from TT
@peronik349
@peronik349 Месяц назад
I was able to see a French documentary on this important but little-known event, with interviews with some of the French people involved in this event. French officers actually had to choose a "Muslim name" (in Saudi Arabia Abdel is more classic than Pierre or Jean :) ) and take the Islamic oath on the other hand, once at Jeddah airport, they were not taken to Mecca, but the authorities gave them all possible technical resources to advise the security forces present as closely as possible.
@alibongongolo4611
@alibongongolo4611 3 месяца назад
great to see aslan pahani
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 3 месяца назад
The fact that the dude died but his plans for a return to hyper conservitism ended up happening anyways (minus the overthrowing the government part) is baffling makes you think if that was his plan all along
@omarkhalid5649
@omarkhalid5649 3 месяца назад
Hello my friend! You made it!
@yahia9481
@yahia9481 3 месяца назад
I heard of this before but not in detail Good documentary
@missilemedic
@missilemedic 3 месяца назад
In Bin Laden's CNN interview, he mentioned the American occupation of Mecca, was this what he was referring to? Or is there more untaught history I need to learn? 😅
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