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How a Simple Virus Started the Outbreak in The Walking Dead. 

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@galath9242
@galath9242 7 месяцев назад
The fact that it got even astronauts on space station is such a shit writing lol
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Actually I believe that in fear someone was talking with an astronaut on the space station. I think that the zombie astronaut was in the main show.
@danilol9417
@danilol9417 7 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies but if the virus spread trough the air then how did astrounauts got even infected? they breathe different air
@MeeshT
@MeeshT 7 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies yeah, but I thought it was implied he just narrowly escaped the spread of the virus or whatever, as he's basically saying he's not facing that, but the fact that he's never going to go bacck to earth and essentially die in space.
@Snapper314
@Snapper314 7 месяцев назад
Two Words: Space Spores.
@GGGmod1
@GGGmod1 7 месяцев назад
@@Snapper314 If anyone managed to make a virus that could spread through all vectors AND survive in space while having some sort of way to get up there in the first place then they would also have the technology to make a cure.
@Rageren
@Rageren 7 месяцев назад
*The only thing I don't understand is how so many people turned so quickly at the beginning of the outbreak. Enough people that the walkers defeated the world's militaries. Although everyone is infected, the only way to turn is to get bit or generally die. It's possible that the virus in the beginning caused a bunch of people to just drop dead all at once. And maybe the survivors we see now, were the lucky ones with a small immunity to that instant death at the beginning. I don't know, I wish the show would just answer the question instead avoiding it for the last 15 years.*
@DaroriDerEinzige
@DaroriDerEinzige 7 месяцев назад
Panic. In the Book "World War Z" - not the terrible movie - it's pretty much explained; first you think "Yeah, mate, Zombies - booohooo." but then you realize ... People are irrational. First you've to think about all those which say "Nah, mate, I'm good." while already getting the urge to bite others. Then take into account what you would do when the only person you truly love or your children got it; wouldn't you try to save them? Those two things alone help it to spread extremly fast / take alot of people down. Then you think "sure, the military will handle that" - Yet people aren't made to shoot at people and Zombies don't stop. 90% of Shots in Wars aren't even properly targeted. So, you say; "Sure, Napalm." - Zombies marching on. You say; "Mate, bomb the sh!t out of them!" - Zombies marching on. You say; "Shoot your mag's empty, we've enough bullets!" - Zombies marching on. They don't fear, they don't feel cold or heat, they just marching on. And only a couple of guys need to have a panic attack - then you've mass hysteria. Also, keep in mind; only a Headshot kills them. Our ammo is designed either to make a "clear wound" or to tear stuff. Actually, in the military you get trained to shoot at the center of mass - not the head. Because, normally you just need to hit the enemy soldiers somewhere and he goes down. Especially living humans die pretty easily with shots into their legs or even worse; stomach. (If you smell off after a stomach shot, you're pretty much dead in the next couple of minutes) So, at first the soldiers will hold ranks. They will shoot at the Heads but then they will start to panic. The ranks will break. And every dead is a new Zombie. While a Zombie Apokalypse wouldn't exterminate the whole of Humanity, if it spreads fast enough it would cause immense social disorder and some Countries could be on the brink of collapsing in a couple of days.
@TheSkinnyMechanic
@TheSkinnyMechanic 7 месяцев назад
167k people in the world die everyday. That’s an exponential growth rate for the dead
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
First of there’s really no denying that people in TWD were pretty dumb at the beginning and we probably would manage even something like that. In the nutshell how I see it, it was due to: 1. Beginning happened at once everywhere 2. There was no concept of zombies in TWD universe before the outbreak 3. Humans in TWD are clumsy, I mean people died fighting a single walker months into the outbreak 4. Even if you have a save zone you gotta contantly watch out becose people will die from natural causes and the outbreak can begin again 5. Somehow walkers can tear right throught your flash and bite of your muscles (which humans absolutely can’t in real life)
@knives5964
@knives5964 7 месяцев назад
​@TheWalkies Honestly I'm not sure we could manage it because in times like those we all know humans go insane and turn on each other. I mean we saw that with something simple like covid( I'm saying simple because compared to a zombie outbreak it is). People were turning on each other blaming their neighbours of bringing the outbreak to their homes and country. Now in a zombie world, they don't just hate you, they kill you. And I agree the spread was easy and quick, like a hospital can easily become overrun.
@Alatyreon
@Alatyreon 7 месяцев назад
​@@TheWalkiesit doesn't have to be people being "dumb". It just happens, a slight moment of carelessness or hubris and that's it, you're done. Funny because it also happens in a game called Project Zomboid. Even when a character has survived for months, learned a lot of skills, one wrong decision and you're dead.
@yslchristian
@yslchristian 7 месяцев назад
The wildfire virus was found by the CDC April 2010, but the virus rarely reanimated. Reanimation didn’t become a common occurrence until August 2010, everyone was infected by then. So the crew of the sub likely were infected before going underwater.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Exactely. That’s a big reason why the apocalypse happened. But the thing with the guys in the submarine… I get why people say this but they were in the submarine for months I believe. They were out of medicine and food which submarines have a lot of.
@makato_yuki1523
@makato_yuki1523 7 месяцев назад
​@@TheWalkiestypically Subs only carry about 90 to 120 days worth of food but from what I've researched most patrols only last 60 days so some subs will only carry 60 days of food.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
They said that they don’t ahve contact with the outside world and tgey kept going for as long as they could, so long that people started dying. So lets say it was 90 days… that’s a long time and the outbreak could start in this time period.
@B-zk9bt
@B-zk9bt 7 месяцев назад
So, for example if I died in like July 2010. There’s a chance I wouldn’t reanimate?
@laramayone
@laramayone 7 месяцев назад
​@@TheWalkies There is the possibility that the virus has some properties we've seen woth radioactive elements and how they enter the human body. At Los Alamos in the USA a man was hit by a large blast of radiation by particles that were inside of a container that housed radioactive materials in a liquid solution after it was activated improperly (not quite the full story but just for brevity that's a rough idea). The man was rushed to hospital and after he died his body was autopsied and they found that the radioactive metals, that he was never in direct contact with, were coalescing inside of several systems of his body, including his kidneys, liver and even his bone marrow. If the wildfire virus is able to transmit in a similar way, it would be heavier than water and so sink, get into contact with the sub, and be able to infect the crew even through the layers of the sub. Just a theory, could be worth looking into if you're interested (the Los Alamos stuff is discussed on a good video by Kyle Hill, search for the body snatchers of Los Alamos for it)
@mrcrackdonald_1
@mrcrackdonald_1 6 месяцев назад
I think the french scientists were trying to find a cure for death, creating something that could resurrect a dead human. They were semi-successful.
@Снайпер_Хренов
@Снайпер_Хренов 4 месяца назад
Cure for death is actually a wild concept.
@BUENOWITHSOMEbuoNo
@BUENOWITHSOMEbuoNo 2 месяца назад
Well they did succeed.
@LeMecAyoub
@LeMecAyoub 2 месяца назад
If thats actually true then i think the reason the resurrected humans became walkers is God's Wrath for humans trying to do something that only god can do
@maryjaneblues7712
@maryjaneblues7712 2 месяца назад
@@LeMecAyoubAmen🙏
@thedavistheory7674
@thedavistheory7674 2 месяца назад
​@@LeMecAyoubI'd say you're tripping but since there's a hinted afterlife in TWD universe, I think a Lovecraftian being causing that could be possible
@xnightx8467
@xnightx8467 7 месяцев назад
I believe the zombies started acting slower around season 2 due to the director Darabont leaving
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
They became way dumber as well.
@Thalasius
@Thalasius 7 месяцев назад
There is not a single person in 2024 who doesn't know that.
@shadewolf0075
@shadewolf0075 7 месяцев назад
The ones in season 1 and 2 were retconned into being variants called “roamers”!so basically Georgia and Ohio are the only places where variants exist in the US. Basically giving us a in universe explanation for why walkers got really dumb after season 2
@jollygoodfellow3957
@jollygoodfellow3957 7 месяцев назад
Regional variants. Also in a crowd of 1,000 or 10,000 zombies, variants would not be as apparent, as they'd blend into the horde. Over time the weak and dumb walkers get picked off, leaving the smarter and stronger zombies left over in greater proportions.
@inshal6420
@inshal6420 6 месяцев назад
@@shadewolf0075i sort of liked the fan theory that their bodies decaying made them weaker.
@VaderPopsVicodin10
@VaderPopsVicodin10 6 месяцев назад
1:35 ..forgot how crazy T Dog's death was. And the way that first walker looks when it just tears apart his arm like that ..like it was hungry or something.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
Imagine being the actor and having a big elastic thingy connecting someones mouth and your arm and someone is spilling fake blood all over it.
@christopherbull7856
@christopherbull7856 6 месяцев назад
U have to remember that there was no zombie culture in this world so when the first zombies appeared no one had a clue how to stop them. The military had some success with some tanks etc but no one knew they were already infected with it.
@AbitantedelVault
@AbitantedelVault 4 месяца назад
Yeah but the WHO and the LAPD are shown to be able to "take care" of the walkers 🤔
@thedavistheory7674
@thedavistheory7674 2 месяца назад
Yeah but I mean it is really a no brainier, you see threat, you shoot in the head, it dies, OH WOW, I mean it really isn't rocket science
@AbitantedelVault
@AbitantedelVault 2 месяца назад
@@thedavistheory7674 yeah, but usually cops shot the body, not the head
@nathanalexander5598
@nathanalexander5598 2 месяца назад
​@@thedavistheory7674 Thats the obvious answer, yes But how do you deal with a virus that resurrects everyone after death? How do you stop accidents? Or casualties in local wars? How do you deal with wave of zombies from your neighbour country?
@Yohan_2009
@Yohan_2009 Месяц назад
​@@AbitantedelVaultI think at that point, almost everyone saw the video of the highway (where they shot the walker multiple times in the body before shooting it in its head. Maybe that's how the LAPD managed to handle them?
@biggley2417
@biggley2417 7 месяцев назад
"Somehow the virus can travel through water, and even the metal of submarines, so yeah" 😂😂😂😂
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
So yeah…
@donaldduffy8947
@donaldduffy8947 7 месяцев назад
It dosent. This video is false info
@ToEuropa
@ToEuropa 7 месяцев назад
It doesn't go through metal. Folks in subs were either infected before they left or the airborne virus got into the sub when they surfaced and took in air or simply opened up.
@rmartinson19
@rmartinson19 7 месяцев назад
@@donaldduffy8947 But it does. Unless you are arguing that the virus infected the world, but didn't start reanimating people for months. Nuclear submarines on deployment go anywhere from 4-8 months at a time without surfacing, meaning that for that time, they are fully hermetic. No contact with the outside. So yeah, in order to have nuclear submarine crews dying and reanimating at the very start, they would have had to either just started their deployment as the virus spread - but before the zombies became common knowledge - or the virus magically infected them through many meters of seawater and the airtight steel hull of the vessel itself.
@deathstroke2697
@deathstroke2697 7 месяцев назад
Airborn
@matttv94
@matttv94 7 месяцев назад
The French were trying to create immortal soldiers. They could suffer multiple life ending injuries and still reanimate. It could only be used on a small percentage of people though, the people who weren’t compatible come back as walkers and the ones who it was intended for come back provided there is no head trauma. It would explain how Rick has suffered so many serious injuries but still survives.
@jugg3rnog
@jugg3rnog 7 месяцев назад
no its called plot armor and Rick has the most of it than anyone else
@matttv94
@matttv94 7 месяцев назад
@@jugg3rnog I thought this was a way that we could explain the plot armour, it makes sense
@jugg3rnog
@jugg3rnog 7 месяцев назад
@@matttv94 idk the only person i could see this actually applying to would be Alicia… but even her case is just strange and full of plot armor
@matttv94
@matttv94 7 месяцев назад
@@jugg3rnog I think it makes a lot of sense about Rick and I think it could include Alicia too
@jugg3rnog
@jugg3rnog 7 месяцев назад
@@matttv94 then that retcons the entire CDC episode and also the post-credits scene of Jenner talking to the French scientist
@Mr_Tabz
@Mr_Tabz 7 месяцев назад
I would say the amount of walkers makes sense tho, about 167k die every day, that's an insane growth rate
@MyPrideFlag
@MyPrideFlag 7 месяцев назад
These people die AROUND THE WORLD. It maybe 100 people in big cities. Nothing police and national guard wouldn't handle. And in rural areas as soon as people realiae what was coming, they would prepare. In Texas there are more guns than people.
@KaptainOW
@KaptainOW 7 месяцев назад
Yep. Considering it’s airborne, and we can assume a very high transmission rate, and practically no immune response to begin with, when the first zombie rise, we can assume thousands were infected, if not millions. Then adding the base mortality per day, and assuming those new dead kill at least one person, within anywhere between weeks, and months you essentially have the end of the world.
@Johnathan1800
@Johnathan1800 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that makes a lot of sence I never thought about that 😂.
@sjonnieplayfull5859
@sjonnieplayfull5859 6 месяцев назад
Most of those 167K die in bad ways. Their bodies old, weakened and frail, without their own teeth. Others die riddled with disease, too weak to stand. Others die from severe head trauma Some healthy, strong people will die, but especialy in the Western world, most who die do so because their body fails completely Imagine a 90 year old ripping a young guy apart.... imagine a 90 year old hitting a door ten times: how many broken pieces are on the ground?
@SuicideSeason4545
@SuicideSeason4545 6 месяцев назад
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 in our world this would make sense. But in TWD zombies are reanimated through what to us is basically magic. In their world these zombies quite literally break the laws of physics by walking and standing especially after bones have been broken in their legs
@shaquille7414
@shaquille7414 7 месяцев назад
It’s been around 13.5-14 years in the apocalypse atp but I still hadn’t heard much about how it started so thanks for making this vid
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@justaperson1619
@justaperson1619 7 месяцев назад
What about the moment in season 5 when Sasha went a little crazy and started taking down walkiers with a knife while presenting a threat to the other group members, so Abraham had to step in and drag her away and then she accidentally cut him with the same knife she just stabbed a bunch of ealkers with. Shouldn't Abraham have turned then since his blood was exposed to the walker blood on the knife?
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
It’s called a plot hole and I do not have an explanation.
@abramsullivan7764
@abramsullivan7764 4 месяца назад
Wait what
@mags247
@mags247 Месяц назад
His skin is thicker than the plot armor
@pepleatherlab3872
@pepleatherlab3872 7 месяцев назад
I think the real pivotal catch most people miss is that 'literally everyone' was infected as a carrier. Months may have passed before enough infected people perished, rose and became noticeable. Heart attacks, auto accidents, cancers, gunshots etc. However one dies, they change and rise. Everyone seen in the show is an infected carrier. They just haven't expired and risen yet. Hence the title of the show 'Walking Dead.' It works a bit like insect poison. Each bug encounters the poison, crawls through it, then returns home to spread it unknowingly. It isn't until later as the nest begins to fail that they realize they've been poisoned. People were passing the virus to each other long before the walkers became noticeable. It isn't the virus that kills. The virus only animates. It's bacterial infection, bad food, cholera, starvation, gunshots, untreated wounds etc that kill.
@joylynbateman4015
@joylynbateman4015 7 месяцев назад
I have my own theory about the wildfire virus not being a virus, but something with the properties of one. Since a virus is just dna and rna encased in a protein capsule, who’s to say that they wouldn’t do the same thing only with sodium ions instead of dna or rna. Have you ever put salt on the muscles of a dead fish or frog legs, what happens to them, they move. This is because our brain uses sodium ions to transport messages to our nerves and muscles, making us move. And the reason why salt works perfectly is because it’s filled with sodium ions. So imagine a protein capsule that’s filled with sodium ions and is airborne. And somehow they seem to concentrate in the brainstem. And another part of my theory is that since bacteria causes bodies to decompose, the bacteria could start eating away the capsule first which would lead to the sodium ions leaking into the brainstem nerves. This will force the brainstem to fire, shocking the body back to life.
@elha7982
@elha7982 2 месяца назад
Nice
@SavantPete
@SavantPete 4 месяца назад
The fact that the brain shuts down first is interesting and makes sense. I remember Jim hallucinating when he was bit in season 1
@ddawliet355
@ddawliet355 3 месяца назад
Make sense in this fiction yes but not in the reality 😂
@yslchristian
@yslchristian 7 месяцев назад
The infection is weakened by high doses of radiation and allows for the body to survive as seen with Alicia Clark.
@Kieran84ire
@Kieran84ire 4 месяца назад
I think the human body is weakened by high doses of radiation. Unless you underwent some kind of chemotherapy.
@TheGavn8er
@TheGavn8er 7 месяцев назад
Only reason we had different zombies late seasons was because the show runner switched. The original writer wanted to take the infection into a different direction. Lots of variation and room for new types. I think they switched in season 2 then zombies because traditional shambles
@Fake_Reality_
@Fake_Reality_ 4 месяца назад
According to the walking dead wiki, rather than a bunch of bacteria killing you it’s the virus itself. The virus has 2 stages: active and inactive. Everyone has the inactive agent and when the carrier dies the agent becomes active, and it spreads to the mouth and blood. Once a walker bites someone the active agent is introduced in that persons system and basically causes the symptoms to kill the person to then gain control. I think the wiki is right since if it was only bacteria the virus would be less lethal as antibiotics could treat the infection, or at least help the person a few days at worst.
@PolymurExcel
@PolymurExcel 7 месяцев назад
I mean, they kinda ran in season 1 as well. It was kinda a shuffle, but it was still faster than their default pace.
@user-bigchungus1984
@user-bigchungus1984 2 месяца назад
Yeah becouse the bodies still had the joints intact After years of shuffling around their muscles are probably on the brink of completly breaking down, and while the Virus can do its plot black magic to keep them up and running, they are basicly like a car running on the last drops of backup energy.
@JR-om7mb
@JR-om7mb 7 месяцев назад
Maybe it was a unseeable chemical compound that spreads with oxygen but also had crazy effects with all of the other things we have in our atmosphere
@sandrinojohnsun9949
@sandrinojohnsun9949 7 месяцев назад
Like trioxin from Return of the living dead.
@jollygoodfellow3957
@jollygoodfellow3957 7 месяцев назад
It could be mold. Mold is literally everywhere.
@SuicideSeason4545
@SuicideSeason4545 6 месяцев назад
Dude the virus was literally created in France and we see footage of the virus itself under a microscope(albeit the scene was incredibly unrealistic like the rest of this show’s laughable disregard for physics.)
@georgeclontd4984
@georgeclontd4984 7 месяцев назад
You have two types of infection. The persons who caught a flu like illness who died then reanimated after say hour of even minutes. And those who were infected but did not show any symtoms but have the 'reagent' most likely in the lower brain stem ready to reanimate after brain death.
@portalplayerp
@portalplayerp 14 дней назад
In the show when the virus is airborne, i believe that our immune system is constantly preventing it so that's why we don't turn, But however if we get bit then that provides more bacteria than our immune system can fight off. It's similar to when characters die their immune systems shut down therefore making the virus take over.
@captainskipper4858
@captainskipper4858 7 месяцев назад
I love your videos man, I’d love to see possibly a video of Daryl or the lack of him in the comics, after finishing them I really noticed him not being there.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Daryl would make comics better.
@gabijacras2846
@gabijacras2846 7 месяцев назад
From what I've heard and heard from theorists and what I kind of believe is that bites and scratches do actually infect your flesh or speed up the turning in a way. Yes antibiotics helped but they were not fully successful and just slowed down the infection. I think that when someone dies or is bitten or just a walker their flesh is like fully infected by the virus. When they bite or scratch you not only do they infect you with lots of bad diseases and bacteria but they also transmit the virus into your bloodstream. That's why antibiotics would help with making you less sick or calming down the infection of other diseases or bacteria but the wildfire virus itself is still in your bloodstream and you'll still turn eventually. People have eaten infected flesh and gotten walker blood in their mouths before and they either got sick and died or got sick and lived. In season 9 or 10 when the whisperers cut up walkers into the water and made it so people drank unfiltered water we saw people get really sick and die but we also saw people get really sick and live like Rosita. That proves that if you ingest walker blood or flesh you wont be affected by the wildfire virus unless it gets into your bloodstream much like some STDs.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Very great points I forgot about that incident with whisperers yeah.
@Agg1E91
@Agg1E91 7 месяцев назад
I always guessed, and likely an uninformed one since I stopped watching TWD after S1 and stopped watching FofTWD about 1/2 way through S1, that everyone was infected with a certain *form* of the "virus". In some cases it killed you off and then reanimated you but in most cases it didn't. It was just there and dormant. But if it then encountered the "active" form of the "virus" after you got bit, for example, that would kickstart the dormant form and it would kill you off like it did those others, but faster because your body was also dealing with more mundane infections from the bite. I was unaware there was a plotline about further "refinement" of the "disease" even after it was known how infectious it was and the crazy reanimating it did. What a bunch of intelligent, educated morons. I know the show needed the variation for story's sake and that they then had to sort of explain why it was a thing, but cripes, people! WTF!? And the most scary thing is that I fully believe "real" us would do exactly the same thing (because recent events support that supposition).
@andrewyoonhobai8453
@andrewyoonhobai8453 6 месяцев назад
7fold is an oddity with possibilities endless
@L100iq
@L100iq 7 месяцев назад
You should have way more than 400 subs you should at least have 5000 your content is amazing
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks and we’ll probably get there.
@fightingcarrot
@fightingcarrot 7 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkiesyou need to make shorts man. That’ll help you get more views and subs! You got this!
@justaman9957
@justaman9957 2 месяца назад
Plot Twist: they basically picked "it was the french" comment from the last episode of season 1 to make the orign story... in other words they worked with the idea Darabond was starting to built back then and was forced to drop due AMC firing him. So that's why, the concept it's very bare bones as whole, it's like when they fire the OG ppl behind a idea in a game and then hire new and not so talented people to work on it, it's not the same at all... or what it could have been. Also, unfortunatelly Robert Kirkman doesn't have a say in what they do with his IP most of the time, and he is okay with it if he get his share of the $, so unfortunatelly TWD it's going like Resident Evil and Capcom, that doesn't care much about the quality of the productions being made
@Jan_2000
@Jan_2000 7 месяцев назад
1:10 this is actually done irl. Not making compeltely new ones but making controlled mutations of existing infections, incluiding more dangerous ones. This is done with bacteria sometimes to develop new antibiotics and test their effectiveness against certain mutations. Or with the common flu in an attempt to anticipate the mutatations for the next month/year in order to develop an updated vaccine.
@ImYourOverlord
@ImYourOverlord 2 месяца назад
As well as to develop new bioweapons.
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 7 месяцев назад
What i dont get is how fresh walker bites are deadly. For example in season 4 episode 1 someone dies of the flu and this causes a walker outbreak when he starts biting people. Another example is the saviours infecting their weapons and their victims coming back and biting people.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Ah yeah the plot holes.
@chinoonihc
@chinoonihc 2 месяца назад
i like how they're doing the spinoffs, we've got survivors just trying to survive, we've got survivors trying to rebuild society, and we're got survivors who are trying to cure, or end the virus.
@Truck_Kun_Driver
@Truck_Kun_Driver 2 месяца назад
Watching the bonus DVD of Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead makes me realize how a pandemic like Wildfire can spread so easily
@apollo4619
@apollo4619 7 месяцев назад
Good news for anyone worried about a IRL walking dead scenario. In the real world we have the laws of physics so a Virus can't just insta spread like wildfire does lol. I know the creator of the show made a big deal about it intentionally being vague and full of plot holes because that wasn't the focus of the show but it is some lazy writing. I think the Last Ship series did a far better job with a fictional virus plot than TWD did. But again not a big deal since it wasn't the focus of the show
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Exactely. You can’t blame Robert Kirkman, he wrote some of the most far fetched and weird shit I ever read lol.
@aouyiu
@aouyiu 7 месяцев назад
It's probably likely that it had a very long incubation period, then one day it would look like it's spreading like wildfire even though it already has been just with no symptoms. Evolution is the biggest reason we don't have to worry about something like this.
@sharky1583
@sharky1583 7 месяцев назад
Well done. As a medicine student I'm surprised with amount of your knowledge people tend to forget or don't even know about that you included in this video. I really wanted a short clip to explain the topic, but all I have found were almost an hour videos.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks. This were just my thoughts on it, in any case it’s not a good idea to go any further otherwise we’re just speculating. Writers are the only ones who can tell us more. But I’m happy that you found the video scientifically accurate.
@davidoftheforest
@davidoftheforest 7 месяцев назад
why would someone mess with a virus in a lab? yea, the c0vid vibes for sure
@BdogFinal14
@BdogFinal14 6 месяцев назад
So basically, this series either needs some virologists working on the show, or just stay away from a scientific explanation, all together.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
They could just use a day or two to research some basics.
@official_njko778
@official_njko778 5 месяцев назад
The craziest thing about ALL of the walking dead series is noone barely got the blood of the walkers on their mouth when killing them OR having wounds and getting spilled by walker blood like what happend to T dog when he got slit in the arm and got covered by a walker
@dragonflamesucksMC
@dragonflamesucksMC 7 месяцев назад
100 thousand people die a per day add it up and that’s millions of walkers in just weeks
@Father_Daniel
@Father_Daniel 7 месяцев назад
Very good point! And that's just the natural deaths not related to the outbreak.
@EmXena315
@EmXena315 7 месяцев назад
Imagine the multiplication of Walkers once the military starts killing mass quantities of civilians with napalm and bombs and martial law, and all that followed by zero electricity and water. if that doesn't force almost all of America and other countries into Walker central, I don't know what will.
@bryanx5829
@bryanx5829 7 месяцев назад
Anyone who dies gets back up, people get infected. So humans are losing people while the dead grow in numbers. It's only a matter of time. Plus we're not even counting the disasters that happened during the panic.
@VictorNieves-o3o
@VictorNieves-o3o 2 месяца назад
Then those walkers kill and turn even more people, so more people die daily and the number of deaths increases by the day. Then people panic and riot, which leads to fights, fires, shootouts, accidents, stabbings, and more deaths, so more walkers.
@Peterpumpkineater-ry8on
@Peterpumpkineater-ry8on 7 месяцев назад
This video was great! Well done 👏 made my week ❤️ keep up the good work…please.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Damn dude a whole week, great.
@Peterpumpkineater-ry8on
@Peterpumpkineater-ry8on 7 месяцев назад
lol I enjoyed this more than the last episode of TOWL
@revilno
@revilno 4 месяца назад
2:54 I think it is like a poisonous effect to slowly kill victims
@Father_Daniel
@Father_Daniel 7 месяцев назад
Great video! I really hope they explore this more in the Daryl Dixon show. We got the teaser in France at the end of world Beyond but nothing since then
@gulagmike7252
@gulagmike7252 7 месяцев назад
To the question of why they stopped doing the mutations in season 1 was because the show was made under the pretense that it wasn’t going to be popular or that it wouldn’t gain that much traction at first but when it eventually got the popularity and traction, they kinda just dropped the whole idea until the final seasons which is when they started introducing them back into the show, as well as the other shows.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Finding in universe reasons is much harder thought.
@level1dodo896
@level1dodo896 Месяц назад
The fact that everyone is a carrier and becomes a zombie upon any kind of death plays a pivotal role in the massive spread of zombies and the swift fall of the world militaries.
@MichaelTheArchAngel444
@MichaelTheArchAngel444 7 месяцев назад
kinda odd how he have zombie viruses from the russian permafrost and the scientist that happen to have them are french
@idkwattdischannelis1121
@idkwattdischannelis1121 6 месяцев назад
Then how the hell do they don't get infected after using the zombies blood?
@nicksmithnutmilk
@nicksmithnutmilk 5 месяцев назад
Plot armor
@sleeper43
@sleeper43 7 месяцев назад
There is a huge problem with the acid walkers from France. If their blood was as acidic as shown when that one grabbed Daryl’s arm, there would be nothing left but bones in a matter of minutes. Maybe not even bones. The acid would resolve all flesh and organs in no time.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Acid in real life isn’t that strong. The acid blood of variant walkers is as strong as acid gets.
@Bothrops_Asper_89
@Bothrops_Asper_89 7 месяцев назад
Maybe the virus mutates the body to secrete some unknown substance similar to the lining in the stomach that prevents the stomach acid from melting through everything?
@kikidevine694
@kikidevine694 7 месяцев назад
Evolution. The ones that 'survive' are the ones that have not dissolved
@the1observer
@the1observer 7 месяцев назад
What if the solar position in the galaxy triggered a mass mutation on the solar system, it would explain everything.
@ImYourOverlord
@ImYourOverlord 2 месяца назад
Not sure how that would work, as the sun is constantly in motion.
@undiluted7248
@undiluted7248 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if they could possibly bring fresh walkers back to their human form? Idk im not a scientist but seeing as to how some parts of the brain are active, maybe theres a little chance that the survivors create some new technology or whatever to fully make the brain active.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Well when a person dies he/she is dead. Just becouse walkers are somehow able to still move that doesn’t mean that heart/brains/everything else is still active.
@howardem40
@howardem40 7 месяцев назад
Now, the series is explaining about the origin of the TWD virus. The Last of Us episode offers a more realistic view and origin for their TV series.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
People say this but believe me fungus like that cannot exist either and the ones that do were evolutionary developed for a specific species of insects and cannot just jump to humans in such a short time.
@howardem40
@howardem40 7 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies Of course and I agree. The Last of Us (episode 1) offered a good, vivid introduction of the possibility for a horrific fungi outbreak for its zombie origin unlike the TWD series.
@DooshaFn
@DooshaFn Месяц назад
as you said, that in the beggining the zombies were runing ect. its bc they fired a person who was responsible for them and the other i think animator made them weak and did the evolution thing
@CarlosCaceres-fh6ki
@CarlosCaceres-fh6ki 7 месяцев назад
Good job man, you have serious potential
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks, means a lot.
@dueler8281
@dueler8281 7 месяцев назад
They never confirmed the reasoning because the writers for the show never decided to come up with one that would be canon and wouldn’t mess up the story.
@DevTheRay
@DevTheRay 2 месяца назад
The whole rotting flesh kills you doesn't make sense because even someone who just turned would kill from a bite.
@solarchos4352
@solarchos4352 6 месяцев назад
1:45 - There's absolutely no way an airborne virus could infect anything underwater since the environment is so radically different. There's especially no way it could infect the crew of a nuclear submarine underwater since submarines are built to withstand MASSIVE underwater pressure: that would mean that the virus particles themselves are as small as (or smaller) than _hydrogen_ molecules. The ONLY thing that could possibly spread into even a hermetically-sealed environment like that would be a nanophage. Either the virus had ALREADY spread throughout the world BEFORE it was officially discovered...or it was deliberately seeded throughout the world in multiple locations simultaneously.
@KaptainOW
@KaptainOW 6 месяцев назад
The likeliest scenario, is that it escaped from a lab, and due to the nature of it to simply become latent, it likely is a retrovirus like HIV, and only death does it leave the host genome, and becomes an active infection/when the active agent enters the body, it replicates and causes severe hemorrhagic fever. It's airborne, and presumably extremely contagious. so people would infect each other, and only after the first people dying while being infected does the CDC discover wildfire. At this point, potentially hundreds pf thousands, or millions could be infected all before the first zombie. It can very easily be assumed that it would go on to infect the majority of the population before the regular mortality, and the excess mortality from wildfire took it's toll on society.
@samikollgard2704
@samikollgard2704 7 месяцев назад
1:10 caught me off guard lol
@MrDuck257
@MrDuck257 6 месяцев назад
this changes my whole perspective of zombies and the whole series
@richardlcastillo
@richardlcastillo Месяц назад
Rigamortis would make it impossible to move. the end.
@daniellasfrogs
@daniellasfrogs 3 месяца назад
I’m pretty sure it happened fast because the are where it was was probably near a city or town and the infection spread quick because of the infected workers. 1: the workers probably got infected without realizing or 2: they infected them selves as a planned attack
@AbitantedelVault
@AbitantedelVault 4 месяца назад
Three things I cant understand are: -you can survive if you disinfect and take antibiotics after a bite? -if the WHO knew of to deal with infected/dead people how could they succumb so easily? -if the LAPD seems to know how to kill the walker (they're shown shooting them in the head), how couldn't the national guard dispatch all the other walkers?
@alfredoojeda7977
@alfredoojeda7977 2 месяца назад
i wish we found out from Eugene Porter how it all started. he was going to washington for that reason
@juliorodriguez4954
@juliorodriguez4954 6 месяцев назад
Basically the wild fire virus is like green flu virus in the left 4 dead game! But named differently and changed the origin of its creation! So the walking dead series wouldn’t be sued.
@terrellrogers7645
@terrellrogers7645 7 месяцев назад
Maybe they got infected if the sub possibly docked for resupply before the outbreak went crazy 🤷🏿‍♂️ but the ISS thing is wild tho 🤔
@richlisola1
@richlisola1 7 месяцев назад
I would suggest it’s a nanobot swarm, like in the Michael Critchon novel Prey
@Max7345-i8m
@Max7345-i8m 6 месяцев назад
Didn't the comic-series creator, Robert Kirkman, say it was a "space spore" or something?
@CruzPershing
@CruzPershing 4 месяца назад
I like how they say that but then in later seasons it shows them putting the blood in the guts on their skin
@hedonisticmisanthrope
@hedonisticmisanthrope 5 месяцев назад
Loved this video - would love more content on the virus
@redstrat5976
@redstrat5976 7 месяцев назад
Great video, subbed
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@huskyjunky342
@huskyjunky342 7 месяцев назад
To those who wonder how walkers defeated humanity in the universe here's some facts that may contribute to it: -There was no concept of a zombie in their universe, meaning they didn't just go for the head until someone already tried it or did it by luck and spread the word. -Society in TWD was very different, as shown in FTWD drugs were commonly used and not really regulated same goes for when the man reanimated and bit a police officer. After he was shot dead the reporters began to blame the officer for killing him, and then riots happened with barely any police resistance meaning the Police in the universe were stricter than our current one. -you gotta remember how many people die daily, as people reanimate by dying and the virus takes over there are undoubtedly over 200K undead in less than 24 hours. -The military failed due to being unorganized, and when they were organized people sabotaged it. For example in the ones who live we find out SPOILER ALERT that one of the soldiers refused to napalm bomb an entire city full of infected( which had people still in it) and instead bombed the military outpost nearby which kind of doomed them. -People seemed to be less fit in the universe, I mean everyone was thin at the start and super relaxed. Doors were unlocked and it was generally just a universe where people were way laid back. After the fall people started surviving outside of towns and training, improving their general chances as we can see Carol being a weak old lady at the start, ending with her becoming a strong independent survivor. -And lastly THE VIRUS WAS AIRBORN ACROSS THE WHOLE PLANET, It was just a matter of time when the society fell because well you cannot defeat an infection that is present in everybody until they die.
@LondonShowShaun
@LondonShowShaun 7 месяцев назад
It seems to make your teeth stronger
@cheezy9143
@cheezy9143 4 месяца назад
1:12 China standing in the corner not making eye contact:
@thomasbentley4757
@thomasbentley4757 7 месяцев назад
How does a bite turn you if you're already infected? Does it just speed up the process?
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
The infection kills you and than when you die the virus takes over.
@TowelsKingdom
@TowelsKingdom 6 месяцев назад
I stopped watching this in 2020. For some reason, a viral post-apocalyptic drama suddenly didn't have the same appeal
@SuicideSeason4545
@SuicideSeason4545 6 месяцев назад
Ironically I got really into TWD spinoffs around April 2020. It just felt a little bit too real with the pandemic beginning and all.
@BigMisterApple
@BigMisterApple 7 месяцев назад
Radiation.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Possibly.
@tylerp35
@tylerp35 7 месяцев назад
The only reason we did not see the intelligent walkers from season one up until now is because the original writer of the show was let go halfway through season two and the new writer did not want to expand on that. However, the new writer of the walking dead universe that is a female is bringing all of that back
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Afcourse it comes down to Frank Darabont and other directors. I meant in universe. I’d say if you’re a good writer you should try to continue what was started and respect the whole thing and not let parts out just like they never existed.
@EmXena315
@EmXena315 7 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies Favorite headcanon is that all those brand new, non rotting, clean looking Walkers still retained large parts of their former selves, allowing them to open things and use tools and do short fast jogs and climb. The variants we see later down the line are the ones who where able to recall those aspects, all those years later, as a survival mechanism for food. "Humans got way too good at dealing with us. How can we solve this," then boom, door handles. It was obviously the writers changing, but it is a viable solution nonetheless.
@ronlove4989
@ronlove4989 Месяц назад
As a fan of this wonderful series there's still so many questions in my head that untill now there's still no answers. Like this how virus started. How sophia died after she leaves and the group seen her on the barn
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 6 дней назад
It's implied that the virus began in that French lab. As for Sophia, she's got a bite mark on her left shoulder. She got bitten, died and turned between her getting lost and the gang meeting Otis because he put her in there before going with Shane.
@707Knoth
@707Knoth 7 месяцев назад
W video. Very cool man.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks.
@sandrinojohnsun9949
@sandrinojohnsun9949 5 месяцев назад
If bites really dont cause infection, how did fresh zombies at the beginning still make people sick. Their mouths would be clean enough to be not 100% fatal from a bacterial infection, and docoltos wouldve still been available.
@Anonym-yr4qn
@Anonym-yr4qn 7 месяцев назад
Ever since i've heard that robert kirkman didn't want to share the origin, because he found it embarrassing, i wanted to know what he means. ...and even though it's been a deus ex machina, i don't find it as bad as he implied. I think he overreacted, even though it was definitely advantageous to not share it for so long.
@slipperywumbo2977
@slipperywumbo2977 2 месяца назад
Bro that's so far fetched that it traveled to subs.
@zarnell
@zarnell 6 месяцев назад
How do the walkers continue to move without proper muscle structure. I mean bones cant move themselves.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
A very good question. Unfortunately I have no answer for you.
@American_Patriots-Official
@American_Patriots-Official 7 месяцев назад
You Gained A Sub I Like The Content Keep It Up Actually You Should Do More Videos To Keep Us Entertained! 😁
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks man, working on it!
@chiptheforger9545
@chiptheforger9545 Месяц назад
People was not smart in the beginning like in the first episode of season one fear twd it shows a family literally playing out side having a cookout while their neighbors around them get sick and turn
@kyos8462
@kyos8462 2 месяца назад
I miss TWD being awesome. 3 years of gold 1 silver 1 bronze. Then like 10 total good episodes after
@ethulwulf5351
@ethulwulf5351 5 месяцев назад
Since I first watch the show to now, I have become a doctor. I always imagined that victims died from septic shock. It’s reflected off the telltale games when individuals with stronger immune systems (like lee who barely got sick as a child) manage to survive a lot longer. What most institution would probably be doing at that point is trial by error given the number of victims and pool the results. CDC should have already known that the disease was man-made, in which case, they should have gotten the original samples and attempted to deconstruct them.
@jamesnicholson3658
@jamesnicholson3658 7 месяцев назад
I understand creating new viruses to an extent, you need to do this in order to research future pathogens.
@MrPaulcoster94
@MrPaulcoster94 6 месяцев назад
What happened in dawn of the dead was they tried to contain it and treat people for it they refused to kill there loved ones they thought they was still alive until it was to late
@HK47_115
@HK47_115 6 месяцев назад
Pathegon control and research centers making variants to study is actually not that unheard of. They do this so they can get ahead of the curve of any possible pandemic or infections by making medicines and treatments ahead of time. And as long as procedures are followed properly, this can help a lot in the advancement of medical technology. And in fact that this is how most if not almost all of medical technology has evolved to the point it has in the first place. This is why there are constant recreations of vaccines for flu or other various diseases because it's meant to be a vaccine for a different variant. I can already see somebody saying, why don't they just make one to where it covers all the variants? Well for starters not every variance out there exist yet. We got to catch them all like Pokemon before we could even do that. And even then we don't have the medical technology to do that in the first place. Not yet at least. Would I love to get a single shot that can cover every single variant of a specific disease? Absolutely. I would love to not have to be poked every single year. I mean it's optional, but if you don't want to get sick it definitely helps. But we just don't have the medical technology to do that just yet. One of the biggest factors for why it's not possible it's because of how different people are from a genetic level. Not only can we not make a single vaccine for every variance, but it's going to be difficult to make one that's universal for every single human. Which little to no side effects. Which, any medication that requires any sort of meant to be put into your body whether injection, ingestion, inhaled, or suppository, physically cannot have little to no side effects because there's really no such thing as a medication with no side effects. And technically speaking you wouldn't want that. Because some of the good properties of why we take certain medications are technically side effects. They're the good side effects. Like the good side effects of ibuprofen is to hop leaf pain and swelling. Unfortunately it also comes with negative side effects. Like how it affects your mucus line in your stomach and can cause stomach pains if you take it with an empty stomach. This is why it's important to eat first before taking ibuprofen people.that negative side effect will always exist, but by simply eating you can negate the side effects. Essentially kind of making eating and natural treatment to those side effects. And in some cases we have medications for side effects of other medications. In some cases good, in some cases bad because they're not any better depending on the medication. But even then there is no one size fits all. Medical science and technology as well as the medicinal industry have a long way to go before we're at that and even when we get there, you're still going to be taking multiple vaccines for different diseases. It's not going to be a single vaccine for every disease, but a single vaccine for every variant of that specific disease. Like a flu shot that covers of the flu, and a bullish on the covers every variants of ebola, and a rabies shot that covers every variants of rape. But they're still going to be a shot for that specific disease. Hopefully in that future we don't just have them for viral infections, but Fungle ones, and maybe even genetic diseases like cancer. Have any for fungal vaccines, but even then it would be nice to just have in such s medically advanced future. The cherry on top of the health sundae. But again, even then there's a good chance you would probably still have to take multiple vaccines for different variations of cancer & fungi.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for commenting this. I can’t believe that people are actually taking time for writing down things like this.
@HK47_115
@HK47_115 6 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies everybody's got a short attention span nowadays so everything has to be short and simplified. I don't mind getting into the complicated and nuanced. And I personally don't care if I write a whole essay. Which, so many comments love to complain about other comments that are too long. (In various comment sections I've been in, not this one specifically.)
@invisi-bullexploration2374
@invisi-bullexploration2374 5 месяцев назад
They wanted to make warriors that got back up after being cut down to complete their objectives even in death. They aren't trying to CURE anything. They are so obsessed with their work that they want their weapons perfected. Even though the enemy, whoever they may be no longer exists. There is no point, just ego to say 'I did it at last!'
@GTACE01
@GTACE01 5 месяцев назад
It was probably made for weaponry such as a bioweapon for other countries in the future.
@sizuii-bx9vu
@sizuii-bx9vu 7 месяцев назад
Good video!
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks.
@sirclownsalot5800
@sirclownsalot5800 6 месяцев назад
it should've been a mystery. but if they're going to give it away why not write it to be of alien origin.
@Aethernium
@Aethernium 6 месяцев назад
Because Hollywood needs something that's realistic. See how video games Zombies had actual thoughts behind them, but then after like 2018 they suddenly became more realistic with Resident Evil 2 & 3's Remakes which lacks that crucial love and passion for writing?
@Shoutatclouds
@Shoutatclouds 6 месяцев назад
It would make more sense if it was literal magic
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
Averege folks find it more “realistic” this way but people who understand some biology know that it would indeed make more sence if it was literal magic.
@Shoutatclouds
@Shoutatclouds 6 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies magic...how silly. Virus that penetrates the sea subs and gets into space. Now that's science.
@Thecodmother
@Thecodmother 7 месяцев назад
Always loved that it started from gain of function research. Our whole world does it & it’s disgusting
@noneya8186
@noneya8186 7 месяцев назад
I don't really understand how the virus spread so fast. Just because a zombie is crazy easy to kill. They are super slow and even the fast ones aren't that fast. I just can't see how it could take out the entire world like that, except for a handful of people. I mean, I suppose I can see why it could spread so fast to an extent. Like In The beginning, people not understanding what was happening.. not understanding that they are zombies and they need to fight back and not get bit.. I see it being more like that show "The Strain". There were way more people to survive and there was even a government left. And they were fast mean ass vampires in that show. You'd think it would be more like that. Idk.. I have no idea
@matthewjones39
@matthewjones39 7 месяцев назад
If you did this thing called “watch past episode one,” you would know that everyone is already infected on account of breathing air
@tyleroneill8312
@tyleroneill8312 4 месяца назад
Didn't kirkman say that it was started by space spores (a night of the living dead refrence)
@diogolessa7225
@diogolessa7225 7 месяцев назад
> "don't get any on your skin or in your eyes" > Nick from FTWD: 💩
@nicksmithnutmilk
@nicksmithnutmilk 5 месяцев назад
Carol when she destroyed Terminus too
@Crawling_Sloth
@Crawling_Sloth 6 месяцев назад
its space spores and not made in france
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
Why are people keep saying this? Robert Kirkman said this for the comics not the show.
@jimhalpert0
@jimhalpert0 Месяц назад
Yeah I think they ruined the origin. Airborne? If that was the case everyone would be dying.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 6 дней назад
Airborne to spread, but like the inactive version. Then people started dying in various ways, turning, biting others.
@petertone1616
@petertone1616 6 месяцев назад
But some walkers turned for seconds, bit and the bitten died; their mouths wouldnt have been festering bateria farms seconds in.
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, tell me if you have a better explanation becouse I do not.
@petertone1616
@petertone1616 6 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies cos they needed people to turn so thats how it worked in those moments haha
@davidoftheforest
@davidoftheforest 7 месяцев назад
excellent video
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 7 месяцев назад
Thanks.
@ArgoPower
@ArgoPower 7 месяцев назад
SIG music underground
@cyberteque
@cyberteque 6 месяцев назад
"Wildfire" is an Andromeda Strain reference
@TheWalkies
@TheWalkies 6 месяцев назад
Really? That’s actually really cool. Do you have any proof?
@cyberteque
@cyberteque 6 месяцев назад
@@TheWalkies besides reading Michael Chrictons novel or watching the ORIGINAL movie? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Andromeda_Strain
@cyberteque
@cyberteque 6 месяцев назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Andromeda_Strain_(film)
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