How a Single Swedish Submarine Defeated the US Navy 

@me me they are Scandinavian

@@vishifish9934 They're dicks.

@me me horses are animals

@@wyldeyouth And I am wesle

zunderdog24 let me guess, British?

wish i could like this twice.

Took me a minute.

Imagine the word "sound" in Dan's comment being italicized. Brilliant.

@@Tirocoa Same here...

it ultrasounds good.

*must've been the wind*

Hmm them darn villagers again

Dumb

Lame joke

nah, the sub was just hiding in a box

LOL. NO...just no. I am a submariner and have been part of these operations many times. When we(the US Navy) engages in friendly war games/ops with ally/friendly nations, especially their submarine forces, we significantly hamper our own capabilities, our own operating parameters, our own tools/tactics/techniques we will use. This is well known and well understood by anyone with even an ounce of experience in these matters. If we did not, our allies would almost never have a chance to execute a successful attack our our craft. We used to do, and still do on some occasions, and "even" fight you might call it, and it is never even close. The only way this sort of thing ever happens with ally navy ops, especially countries like Sweden, is when we basically tie our hands behind our backs for the the exercise.

US drops the Bomb Japan: Nani?!

@@youarepredictable you have a copy paste problem

@@youarepredictable what's even the point of a military exercise if you don't even simulate an actual fight; by your account anyway. Wasting taxpayer dollars?

@@zippyparakeet1074 he's probably not a real submariner

Then we let Americans borrow our stuff so they can destroy it

Nate Malm why would be destroy Swedish subs? We are allies

@@yourmanzach2307 that's literally what they said in the video, we let them borrow it so they could learn to destroy it

@@nathanaelmalm5641 yes because the chinese have similair diesel subs.. thats why.

@@yourmanzach2307 maybe just in case sweden were to turn on us, we know how to sink their subs

Nah, only 99 cuz of swedish meatball farts

*see's numder of likes in comment is 69* Im sorry little one

After sinking the carrier. The rest of the fleet: Probably just the wind.

Further proof that chameleon 100% is broken and the devs need to patch this reality before the next major story arc.

@@Leofred2000 no its 98 they make noise when opening a new toblerone pack

Depends on how many Japanese carriers arrived in a dark alley demanding the Swedey boi's girlfriend.

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and soon we will be gone, if catch my drift ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

No,thank you 4 saving our sorry as during ww2.THANK YOU and your family and relatives.THANK YOU!!.And yes,us rocks!!

@@danielnilsson5384 So does Sweden, it rocks!!!! :)

Anonymous Devil Dog hello, i am swedish

Anonymous Devil Dog you’re welcome ;)

And for people who don't know. It's the same technique used in noise cancelling headphones

@@vapen_hem Noise canceling headphones have opposite cylinder engines??! 0.o

@@rrs_13 🤦‍♂️

@@vapen_hem :D

@@rrs_13 no, theres tiny swedish submarines built inside the headphones. if you listen closely you can hear their crews drink met and sing viking songs.

yes and in that exercise the Americans even cheated and still 'lost.' Their ships and an Australian sub were supposed to play a game of 'cat and mouse' as it were and the Americans were supposed to turn off their sonar systems for a while to let the Australian submarine disappear, but they didn't. Rankin (the Aussie sub) still managed to evade them, disappear and then took photographs of their destroyer within torpedo range, undetected.

LOL. NO...just no. I am a submariner and have been part of these operations many times. When we(the US Navy) engages in friendly war games/ops with ally/friendly nations, especially their submarine forces, we significantly hamper our own capabilities, our own operating parameters, our own tools/tactics/techniques we will use. This is well known and well understood by anyone with even an ounce of experience in these matters. If we did not, our allies would almost never have a chance to execute a successful attack our our craft. We used to do, and still do on some occasions, and "even" fight you might call it, and it is never even close. The only way this sort of thing ever happens with ally navy ops, especially countries like Sweden, is when we basically tie our hands behind our backs for the the exercise. On an especially personal note, I was in the Hawaiian ops area and took part in these exercises and all the same stuff applies. Sorry.

@@youarepredictable lol Stop commenting the same thing by changing the name of the places. Get a life lol.

@@Alan_is_here I didn't change any place names of importance to the story. You get a life first, bud.

@@youarepredictable bullshit , every one is fallible , including the US navy and it is not the first time that a US carrier was taken out in war games by a inferior rated force. The kiwis took out the Midway in 81 in operation sand groper 81 off Western Australia and 420 sailors went hammer and tong at each other over the incident. ,in Pinocchio's disco in Perth and wrecked the place 112 taxis were called , i know , because i was there.

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No it said Damasteel.

no, just the ABBA-logo..

Ha, that's funny.

in my eyes it looked like ICA Basic

Was it shaped like dinamite You know a Swedish invention

I've been saying that for years and I'm an old, ex-Cavalry Scout...

(Submarines are boats)

True.

discoHR and submarine fu**er (destroyer)

Can't hit what you can't see as explained by this video and the result of those war exercises.

Yea DICE and MOJANG.

Oh rip I meant dice

Pcc b yeah that's what I meant thanks 😂

And are the rape capital of europe.

classicMaxReviews yup

WHY YOU CAME Not just you but others with alleged professional credentials probably said it couldn’t be done either...now look at what we got! Trust in yourself.

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its not the smart that invent stuff that is successful its the stubborn

Except not cus they be silent

The nationality of the sub in this story seems to change each week

There is nothing special about what they have done. A single sub with good discipline and technology could do that but it does not mean it would sink the carrier.

Diesel sub ? This is technically wrong. The Swedish sub is not diesel it is Stirling.

@@johnteets2921 the stirling is powered by guess what fuel. (diesel)

@@shukes4645 Yeah I know, that is big logistical advantage of the Stirling engine, which works differently than a diesel engine.

Great.. That is called keeping all eggs in one basket and it means, that whole group can be roasted by one single 500kton torpedo or something like P700 missile :)

MMoran just fire 10 more missiles 😬

and its not like all 10 carriers are going to anywhere near eachother at the same time

Nik Chd I love how americans are so proud about their military whilst being almost 600 billion dollars in debt and it‘s expected to rise to almost 800 billions until 2020. Everyone can spend money he doesn‘t have on his military.

TDFXX Not everyone has such a powerful economy others are willing to lend them money even when they're 600 billion in the hole.

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F1 cars use something similar. They are called MGU-H

Off the top of my hizead I'm figuring it's just a mass that's used to dampen temperature change. Hot air flows one way, and it warms up the "battery", cold air flows back the other way and it absorbs the heat from the "battery."

*GROAN*

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Vasili give me one ping, on ping only. Sweden: Give me no ping...we gonna sneak them down and run away after 'sinking' their most important ship.

Hunt for Silent Swede

Give me a ping Vasili. One ping only please.

Years ! You send a fleet of ships: and the entire ocean bottom, begins to move. Suddenly, your fleet is being sunk. Without any warning !

f...irst?

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Yup, I'm sure the rest of the world would go right along with that. Germany wouldn't have built any U-Boats if we told them they were banned. Just like they went right along with the rest of the bans on their military. I'm sure Russia would have been fine with it too, all the U.S. would've had to do was tell them that they are not allowed. Just use a really stearn tone of voice, that way they would know we meant business. While the United States is dictating what war machines are just banned for everyone else, why not include nukes? I'm sure North Korea wouldn't be building them now if America banned them for everyone else back at the end of WWII. At least with nuclear weapons we coulda vaporized any country that wanted to try their hand at building an A-bomb. That way the world would be way safer, most of it would glow in the dark but The United States would be the only country with nukes... and submarines.

Good job on ur sub count and yeah very cool

There was no how

Billy, do you recall when a single Collins-Class large diesel-electric boat infiltrated a simulated carrier battle group with full surface, air and submarine escort? We sunk your "CV" (photographed it) and proceeded to blast "Land Down Under" to announce our presence three nautical miles within your perimeter. This was effected under active surface sonar from all vessels involved.

Also the Gotland Class 2 weeks of operations underwater isn't exactly new or longer than other Diesel Electric Submarines either. The German 212A class and their export variant are capable of operating for +2 weeks submerged as well.

2 weeks submerged is pretty incredible no matter how you cut it though, considering the limitations of the chloride-based carbon scrubbers used in diesel-electrics. Obviously less of an issue on nuclear boats since they have power in surplus to use electrolysis to scrub their air, so you can look at three _months_ or more with nuclear boats fully submerged before they need to surface.

Not saying that this isn't something to be proud of but the operating time submerged is often mentioned as a defining trait that no other conventionally powered submarine has, (Even in this video) which simply isn't true. For example the german 212A are capable operating for three weeks submerged without needing to use the snorkel.

One German Type 212A travelled from Europa submerged to Florida over 3 weeks continuously submerged. This type of submarine works with fuel cells which are far more efficient to convert chemical stored energy into electric energy. The Sterling engine needs a generator to finally produce electricity. This also reduces the efficiency by several percent. Even an rather old Type 206 Diesel submarine (built between 1969 to 1975) was able to sink an US carrier. This is submarine has a displacement of just 500 t. Columbia still operates two of these.

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Damn, I can't unsee it

I'll be in the shower.

Actually it was 500

I Made This Channel To Comment Actually it was 505

You shitting me? You know what I mean.

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remember how one German tank defeated the entire Russian armor core? it didn't, thats how.

Multiple virtual torpedo hits on the Aircraft carrier without being detected is pretty much defeating the Navy.

Nikolas Douglas yes similar to a how an anti-tank weapon penetrates the armor of a heavy tank it defeats the entire armor core.

*Corps. Armour corps!

yhea but that also describes a smaller group, it could just be call armored division, i dont really know the name for an armies entire combined armored force.

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Henk Stegeman And an Australian Collins class sub evaded detection in Aus / US war games

James West Not really; progress doesn't always mean going forward...

I don’t see it

Not always true. The NAZIs got overwhelmed by inferior allied tanks.

In this case; quality over quality.

USA has a lot of stuff but most of it is very poor quality compared to superior European engineering.

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HELVETE

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Like a whale's blowhole

don't think they would surface, more likely they would stay in snorkel depth to recharge batteries

Sarah James we would win tho, we have surströmming

What? Im still confused. When where the 2 at war?

@@e1532 perhaps the archives are incomplete

But, Sweden's neutral! ......innit??

Russian subs are much more stealthy than this one.

Dealan Withiton - - Kindly asking to share your source, because the Russian subs are nuke-driven like the US's & also emit ALOT of noise due to their cooling pumps to cool the nuke heat generated by the nuke power plant. thx.

You have the best comment, because of the Russian threat to Sweden.

they have diesel-electric powered subs as well.

What makes the US military so good is that they are always testing their weaknesses and improving their assets.

yeah sorry, we just like to brag with our cool stuff from time to time :D

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Good job Sweden....

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@Nicholas Demond before firing the missile, the pilot of the fighter jet has to determine the location of the SR71. That wasn't possible for most of the Fighter jet of that Era as SR71 had probably jammers. Ground based radar did the job of tracking. Though MiG 25 also could lock target on them

Meat balls are boring food. Nothing special.

Captain Tomato but Swedish meatballs are diffrent

Captain Tomato coming from a tomato...

danm

They are not, they are simple boring food, .like the swedes. Only hype that's all you've got paid ads and hype.

Николай Совков because unlike nuclear subs these diesel powered subs have to refuel more often. Nuclear subs can go years without resurfacing for fuel (In reality the crew would run out of food long before that point). The fact that diesel subs can only be out for I think maybe a few weeks significantly reduces their range. I hope I helped :).

VipahhN00dle, Thank you very much!

Just to add: I'm pretty sure the vid is wrong on this. This is an "old story" in that it has happened several times before with other nations' subs (France and Netherlands). The issue though is not with that diesel engine making little noise. It's that that engine makes no noise at all, because it's turned off during the attack. The diesels charge batteries. During attacks, the subs will use electric motors only - you may already have the picture if you've encountered hybrid cars. Makes almost no sound. Other than that, it as mentioned has limited range. Nuclear subs are to my knowledge also quieter than Diesels using their engines. And these subs are also far, far smaller than nuclear subs. Let alone compared to the tactical submarine beasts... which could flatten a small country. So it's kinda like asking why you would have a tank, when a rifle is so much cheaper, harder to target and efficient: completely different purposes :).

Effective mission range.

The Americans and Russians took the nuclear road.

they simulate that aswell. I would have been to late anyway because carriers cant move out the way in time

@@jungletroll3844 there’s decoys that get deployed to lure away torpedos

@@Wolf-sd8fr Also probably simulated. Theres no point in doing a training exercise if it doesn't represent the real thing

Sweden also had the strongest tank *in the world* after WW1 during tank program cooperations with germany.

And the Abrams is the God tank on the planet!/s (sarcasm) The S tank was an interesting and a great example of thinking "outside the box", but ultimately it did not satisfy the role of tank. That's why Sweden ultimately purchased the Leopard 2.

The Swedes switched to the Leo 2 simply because the Stridsvagn 103 ("S-tank"), designed starting from mid-Fifties and in production from mid-Sixties, had grown *old* and they judged it impractical to develop a new domestic design from scratch when such excellent imports were readily available. Good luck finding a single First World military that still has tank models of that generation in frontline duty anyway. Back in its day it was a plenty credible design, and it wasn't really intented to be a conventional tank anyway (the Swedes had other models for infantry support etc.). It was designed to be a topnotch defensive vehicle that could extract a dreadful toll on an invader. Also hardly the only aspect of the rather comprehensive national defense system the Swedes developed. Eg. did you know they basically built a three-layer Maginot line across the northern wilderness of the country? Turrets from old scrapped warships got a new lease of life as armoured artillery batteries there, IIRC... Not sure what that Stenvall dude has been smoking though. The Germans certainly used the country as one of their foreign test labs for military R&D (to circumvent Versailles restrictions) - through some twists the Landsverk company was mostly owned by major German arms manufacturers - and quite a bit of interesting and fruitful research happened, but the actual tanks produced could hardly be called "strongest in the world" however many advanced features they now might have had by the standards of the day. They were competent light tanks, the sort of thing that actually found export sales in the interwar period (and met Swedish military requirements), not heavily-armed monsters. Fun fact: in mid-Fifties the Swedes sold off 20 of their old '34 vintage L-60 light tanks to the Dominican Republic. 3 of these got destroyed by US intervention forces during the '65 Dominican Civil War - one of the very few tank-on-tank engagements *ever* in the Americas. (One of the hapless things got totaled by a M48 Patton...)

I think you don't understand much about the Cold War era. Or the basic strategic concept of making sure you look like a sufficiently tough nut to crack that large and threatening neighbours aren't tempted to get funny opportunistic ideas.

@Alex Ladd Spoken like someone not living anywhere near Russia. The Soviet Union picked up countries like they were pokemon. The cold war was a very different time.

Aussie Collins-class is based on the Swedish Vastergotland-class. The Gotland is the class that followed. Only Sweden have Gotland! 💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛

Thats not a thing. First Nuclear subs dont release any tritium, and even if they did it would disolve into the surrounding water, and youd have not only detect it, but detect all the surround water to find where it is not to be able to trace a path.

How do subs not release tritium? If they are using a single pass cooling system, tritium activation via neutron absorption will be there? And I could foresee using a zig zag pattern once you lock on to find a sub, similar to how dogs zero in on someone.

No, but tritium decays into deuterium and a thermal Neutron, and thermal neutrons can produce more deuterium in the secondary cooling water that is released to the sea. So an increase in deuterium concentration can be detected by a mass spectrometer sampling the water. Also, any weak points in the shielding would allow some γ radiation to leak out into the seawater, producing β-decay and possibly positron creation. So the fact that Russia is using the technology is not surprising. How effective it is at pinpointing location by itself is another question.

Tritium decays via weak beta radiation, not sure what you mean by first sentence? But the second part seems interesting, using on the fly isotopic characterization would be a nifty trick! As to the leaking gammas, gamma can't cause beta radiation unless you are talking about photofission which no regular decay gammas can do.

I don't think it would be actively used in locating a submarine - maybe following a trail like a scent hound but that seems a bit far fetched. I think the sensors are more of a "Yo, another nuclear submarine has been here recently", as I imagine the radiation trail will disperse relatively quickly into the ambient background radiation.

Modern carriers can't be sunk by one sub even if it used all its ammo. Carriers like Ford are too big with too many compartments to sink with just one ship. The Navy couldn't sink its own carrier when it was stationary and without a crew for damage control.

@@funveeable stab something deep enough and it will either die bleeding internally, fall under its own weight and bleed externally till its dead,

You forget, the enemies are advancing too.

You expect an american to think lmao?

I bet what you want because in 2015, a French submarine sank the theodore roosvelt aircraft carrier and part of his escort during an exercise off Florida .

our submarines are being upgraded, so yes

The video did say that the US Navy leased the Swedish sub for study for a whole year after this happened.

.... errrm, we’re a light house, your move

Nice

I guess they heard the faint sounds of Sabaton "Primo Victoria"

He was dancing to it instead of reporting it

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Yup waterloo playing just before torpidos were launched

Ha I get the joke

SpaceKraken underrated comment

nice.

Haha, an original twist on a joke which can't pull the pastry off a pie. Well done.

Ha!

Robert Muller Which we also include in the package.

LOLLLL good one

#KSP

Easier than furniture from IKEA

Dr. Crentist I'm from Sweden. We are born with the ability to build IKEA furniture in our sleep.

Yeah, that's why carriers nowadays are surrounded by destroyers to screen for any submarines. And really, in order to sink a carrier you have to find it first. Good luck doing that in miles and miles of open ocean. Not even carriers with their scout planes were able to efficiently do that.

In fact, you could even google where the US carriers are. worldview.stratfor.com/article/us-naval-update-map-may-30-2019 It's impossible to hide a task force of that size and the US doesn't even try because that's not the objective. Carriers are not supposed to be stealthy, there are supposed to be mobile airbases with more firepower than some countries combined. They are supposed to be "invincible" without dependence on stealth, hence why it's worrisome for them to have a sub virtually manage torpedo shots. Make no mistake, one of the best weapons on earth is a US carrier not too many things can compare.

@@anonypersona3189 Keep in mind that the incident happened 14 years ago. USN has shifted doctrine ever so slightly in the intervening time to accommodate this. Specifically, the Virginia class attack submarine. It is explicitly designed to find and intercept other submarines, in addition to hunting down surface vessels. Obviously, operational deployment parameters are going to be classified, but I'd be shocked if every carrier group didn't have at least one or two looking after them beneath the waves by now.

Lmao

Recently a chinese sub near the us carriers undetected until the subs showed up to tell us we are here hehe

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@Anessen I-It was a joke man

awesome awesome . that was a nice joke.

Ofcourse we swedes finish our tasks with our minds instead of might

We're the Canadians of Europe :D

LOL

They have new ones in production now. These are old tech.

Its...good actually. Upgraded diesel tech defeat nuclear tech. Then the US will try to come up with method or tech to defeat the Swedes. Later the Swedes or someone else will try to come up with method or tech to defeat the upgraded US ships. Thats how, I think, European nations advances itself through the medieval ages faster than the Middle East n the East, through military conflict n competition without destroying themselves. Furthermore, competition in stable n peaceful (relatively speaking) environment will, hopefully, further advance various discovery. Hopefully, these discoveries will reach civilian level and thus make the overall technology enjoyed by the population increase.

USA: Go ahead sink one so we can destroy your whole nation. We'll trade a single Carrier for your Country.

I'll mark it on your map

Astuteous Maximus your hit zone stuff is irrelevant as the submarine went out to attack the ships. And the only traget the sub would be able to give is the moment of releasing torps, do you know how long it takes to do so? Seconds. How long do the ships need to get to combat station? Longer. And BTW detection won’t work like you explained because of the fucking fleet above.

Astuteous Maximus it’s a joke

@@spearmintflavoured1546 i agre with u

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Elijah Robbins, da boi wins

Elijah Robbins Imagine the psychological blow to the a country like the US if a war breaks out and lucky sneaky kilo sinks a supercarrrier? It just dawned on me how vulnerable assets carriers are! If I were secretary of the US Navy I would heavily invest in ASW capabilities to counter it

Novo Eduardo AC wat? you cant just throw the navy away because of that sub ! and after that carrier would be sunked the sub would be dead anyway YOU CANNOT HIT 1 TORPEDO AND 2 AND 3 AND NOT DIE

Obviously Sweden can, since that is exactly what this Gotland-sub did. It premfomed multiple attack runs and then dissapered, without ever being detected by the US navy protecting the carrier.

@@Pansarglas while true um the us has 16 super carriers and if this happens Sweden would be dead as this would be war and the swedish military has no chance if it happened today that is byt it wouldn't

Captains log..we..have...been.....sunk

Well, we Germans got a long tradition of annoying the US with submarines

Questions of the day do depth charges still work on modern subs ??

The carrier captain would have been fine. The captains commanding his ASW (Anti-Submarine Warfare) screen, though, would have had some explaining to do.

@@kettch777 You can't really blame him for that, modern German diesel submarines are well known to be extremely difficult to track down anyway.

wouldnt that be glub glub ...

So unfortunately true. We dump trillions into ships which can still be taken out with weapons costing only thousands. Have you noticed that Russia has almost no carrier force and few large warships? It's because they know that in a major conflict all the warships at sea will be immediately sunk on both sides. No point in wasting your money like that. One guided missile frigate of today can do what every battleship ever built put together cannot do. One day we'll learn what the UK did with the Hood: big warships are just expensive showpieces that can't win wars for you, and they all can be sunk.

@Troll uNeed bruh , either English is your tenth language or auto correct fucked you over , I could barely understand your comment.

@kirk mcloren More like 3 minutes now with today's technology.

Aimad Tareksson same didn’t understand a single sentence

See also: Saab aircraft. They've done some really clever stuff with systems integration to massively lower the forecast upgrade costs, while still being competitive. The Swedes punch well above their weight

They got good equipment but can’t fight a big war if necessary because of very small army. Swedes should have sticked with conscription.

@@Lagmaster33 we have conscription now again, it started last year.

Lets not forget that one anti air gun m247 Sergeant York. It had a radar system to track helicopers. Well when it was shown off, it aimed at the public observing it as a potential threat. Result; stories were made that robots will kill humans!

Or do like norway make a 4.2b boat And crash it into a container boat by accident

subs vs pre submarine ships*

Nahhhhh the subs worst enemy are destroyers with depth charges ... this is a true nightmare for any sub to be hunted down.. also the destroyer can sail much much faster than a submerged sub,.

@@lassekristensen385 depth charges are history. supercavitation torpedoes and VLS anti-sub missiles are where it's at.

@@randominternetguy88 Okey interesting! I havent followed much in naval / sub tech since WW2. . . But im gonna look a little more into what you mentioned...

This is in the same venue as the old adage "Military engineers build and deploy weapons, civilian engineers build targets" -Unknown

Hookseye tha fucking diving boi! And hehe i’m Swedish so yeah... ima end this mans whole career!

@@LNZT hey olofmeister

I was looking for this comment XD

Missed opportunity to call it 'One underwater meatball'. 2/10

My bet on diving boi

Lol

I used 5 mins of thinking why that was not a "good" Idea. then I lisened once more and heard "sound". I deadass have never heard a so dry joke in naval warfare

I thought the phrasing was a bit odd here. I missed it, though! :D:D

Loses war games due to too much PING.

time for more, we've made 2 newer generation subs ;)

I mean you're not wrong, kinda doesn't make sense not to if your military tech is obsolete unless you want to be defeated on the battlefield.

yep, the pentagon can't get enough of it

its a computer simulation

@@memeboi6017 I dont think so

Ya because they don't have boring schools like ours

@@zackcarl7861 actually we do the only difference is that were free and almost no limits and have fun..

@@Mc_Anodyne we’ll see how long that will hold..

yeah... i remember being so surprised at each big minecraft update back in the day too.

@Patriot Game Player ight slow your role. Your being hyperbolic. Just because you seen dumb kids doesn't it's the same for all. Same for high-school only things kids had to worry about was drug abuse. Mass shootings aren't ripping through every high school in the U.S

No war games are for usa to scan if another ally have something better than them*

its also to make US sailors jealous that UK and French sailors can get hammered while the ship is underway. there was a incident in one of these games back in 09 where in a drunken brawl started on a British carrier that caused some pretty expensive damage. as punishment they were not allowed to drink for a month on board said ship. The joke was that the punishment was that Her Majesty leased the ship to he US for a month. Dark days indeed.

That's the right spirit 👍 Although it has to be said that they didn't really find a weakness in their military since pretty much every European sub is apparently quite capable of running circles around the US navy so that's just another one on the list. And I'm not only talking about modern Swedish and German non nuclear subs, that list also includes an older French nuclear subs and the first cases of the US loosing against other countries subs in wargames go back to at least 1981. I think the more interesting question is how well other navies can deal with those subs and if it is an US specific or a general problem

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Games have balancing

LOL. NO...just no. I am a submariner and have been part of these operations many times. When we(the US Navy) engages in friendly war games/ops with ally/friendly nations, especially their submarine forces, we significantly hamper our own capabilities, our own operating parameters, our own tools/tactics/techniques we will use. This is well known and well understood by anyone with even an ounce of experience in these matters. If we did not, our allies would almost never have a chance to execute a successful attack our our craft. We used to do, and still do on some occasions, and "even" fight you might call it, and it is never even close. The only way this sort of thing ever happens with ally navy ops, especially countries like Sweden, is when we basically tie our hands behind our backs for the the exercise.

@@youarepredictable But we don't know if the Swedes did that either.

@@youarepredictable whatever makes you feel better

@@murphy7801 thanks...accuracy in all matters and the facts DO make me feel better. Wish you felt the same.....along with SO many others here that have zero knowledge or experience.in this subject. You know....people like YOU. But like most people on here, that won't stop you from offering your half baked bullshit opinions based on less than zero knowledge. You know this to be true, but it hurts to acknowledge, so I'm sure you'll be back with a "yeah...but...." sigh.....

@@youarepredictable that's why you copy pasted it onto almost every comment. That definitely says I'm not insecure

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Surface ships are only really good at projecting strength and in cases like the carrier, to provide support around the globe. Subs are made to be hunter killers.

Excuse me?

Doesnt björn just mean bear?

perc Björn means bear but is also a scandinavian name.

Firstly Finland Sweden is better than Russia and US, Finland created the molotov, and we they also won again Russia. And no we did not go from viking to marine, and björn does not simply mean bear, it does but it also is a name, just as björk, not as some calls it bjork, it means birch, like birch tree.

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DrearyPlane8 probably was a pun but the word 'sound' is overused in this context and many others in Ireland, compared to other anglosphere nations.

if you listened to him he explained active using a loud ping is detectable..

Sound=Good in Ireland