I still use XP on my laptop, I can't believe Microsoft is actually ending support for Windows 7 next year....Why must the greatest things come to an end.
@@Ndlanding You can get it for free, but it is not activated. You need to pay for the activation key. You won't have access to certain features if you do not do so.
@@rover908 Yeah, but the design looks great and all with aero I still use Windows Vista on my 2006 upgraded computer which is fine. But there some places where it noticeable such as a tab infront of a tab
I was born 1997, our first PC my family bought was in 2001 and it had windows xp. i grew up with windows xp since we only had pc's instead of consoles. i will miss it
Nikola Opric: Windows XP was 17 years old at the time this happened (Clearly was on its' way of becoming 18 years old!)! Windows XP was the first Windows OS (and overall first OS) i ever used and that's where i played a video game for the first time ever, which is of course 3D Space Cadet Pinball! I am now surprised that it took this long to end support for the entire family of windows XP OSes. The memories of this great OS will forever remain in my brain and heart (Even if i actually become old), i'd like to thank Michael (The uploader and creator of this video) for giving this great OS more attention so that we actually can remember this great OS! Thank you so much!
There's this thing called One-Core-API that is aimed at running Vista+ applications on XP. It works from what I have seen, but I could never get it to work myself.
Currently i have an unofficial service pack 4 which installs every single update for XP ever released, some additional tools and tweaks to make it more modern and one of those was the 2009 POS update enabler which then downloaded the remaining ones. I guess its now time for the Unofficial Service Pack 5 which has everything in one file. P.s. Michael i send you something entertaining in the PM's of your forum. The Windows 98 PC should never die :D
That sounds neat! I think I remember hearing about that around the time of XP's EOS. Might be worth checking out in a video. Oh, and I got your PM. Thanks for sending those! I'll look into them.
This was pretty interesting. I knew a lot of sales terminals used a version of Windows based on XP still to this day, but I didn't know what it was called, and I never really thought about updates for it. That registry hack is pretty interesting too. I haven't used XP since about 2010 though. I am still on Windows 7 today. I haven't decided if I'll bother upgrading when support ends, or just ditch Windows altogether. I don't boot in to it much these days. My primary system is Linux Mint, and has been for 10 years now.
Something simmilar appplied to vista too Windows server 2008 (not R2) was updated until 2020 and with some patches you can apply server 2008 updates to vista
Every windows version in between XP and 8.1 have ended support, as of February-March 2023: Windows XP ended in 2014. Microsoft MediaCenter was not an OS but ended in 2015. Windows Server 2003 also dropped in 2015. Windows Longhorn ended development in 2007. Windows Vista bit the dust in 2017. Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 ended in 2019. Windows 7 had official support until 2023, assuming you paid a moderate fee. Windows 8 ended before many OSes before it in 2016. (earlier than Vista, 7 and POSReady2009.) And now, Windows 8.1 ended support on the same day as extended support for Windows 7. As for the future, Windows 10 is expected to end support in 2025. Windows 11 21H2 *specifically* ends in 2024. As for the 22H2 model, that ends a year later. Now that may seen a bit early but Windows 11 is still only about 2 years old, so expect more versions with longer support.
Okay so I just found out that Windows Embedded POSReady 7 appears to be supported until 10/12/2021 which is about a year and a half longer than regular windows 7. Correct me if I am wrong on that. I am hoping that by that time enough businesses will complain that MS will end up extended the end of support date by much longer. Please make a video about this OS. Your videos are great. THANK YOU!!
Microsoft will not. Companies and governments can buy into extended support for up to 3 years where every additional year increases the cost. After those 3 years it is really game over. Let's not forget that Windows 7 is already 12 years old and you have to pull the plug at some point. There isn't that much software out there that gets support as long as Windows.
Abandonware is not a official term (therefore the software is technically illegal if is copyrighted, just probably no one will care if you get it from non-official sources), and it depends where you get the software from. The most popular way to describe abandonware is the software that is not supported in any way and older than 10/15 years. That way Windows XP is already an abandonware, and you cat get it from many archival websites.
XP stems from a time when people cared about their operating systems. And from a time when Microsoft still cared about giving users a good experience. It isn't cutting edge by any means, but I love the lack of modern online integration XP has, that classic, easy to use UI that just got out your way and didn't (at least later on) take up any unnecessary resources. XP was the first OS I ever used and I, along with I assume many others, keep a computer running it and a VM set up for use at any time. Do I use it? No, of course not, the world has moved on. But XP still retains its charm: a symbol of a bygone eera of computing that was utterly enjoyible.
@TheFake VIP, actually, when windows xp first came out, its gui was criticized for being far more bloated than 9x and 2000's, and for being "fisher price".
@@Reden777 I remember hating it when it first came out. As I used it I came to love the default blue and green color scheme. For years I had a windows xp theme on my windows 8.1 (my second favorite OS, once the start screen is disabled and a third party start menu is installed)
I thought so. Thankfully I came into computing around the mid vista time period, when XP was pretty snappy and easy to run (I'm only 16). I can totally see why people would criticise the theme, but the good thing about XP is you can basically turn it into an updated version of windows 2000 with a few settings tweaks. Microsoft certainly doesn't let you turn windows 10 into 7, although I guess you could argue that you can re-enable the start screen to turn it back into windows 8.
@@Reden777 The first thing I did with any XP machine was change the theme to Windows 95. My Windows 7 PCs still have that theme. The default blue and green window trim on XP was garish and tacky.
As alluded to by the installation time of an hour and no support for older machines, every new Windows takes up much more memory, drive space and some cpu. That was so for XP too in its time from all the visual bling that was added on top of 2000. Basically one had to go out and buy a new computer to get equal performance than the old one, and a still functional, but now unfashionable computer had to be shelved or thrown out. Promotes consumer spending, income for corporations and generation of waste. The press are like flies on shit on these end of support events, just like when the mp3 patents expired.
I still have an old 2007 desktop running Windows XP. Been using it mostly for web browsing since 2014, never got a single virus. Heck, the darn thing doesn't even have an anti-virus currently installed. But anyway, now that the XP era is finnaly over I have a new incentive to preserve this computer in its current state. And no, this is not my main computer, that's an hp pavilion running Windows 8.1.
@@PlayerRBLX_ Pavilion kicked the bucket a year ago after the graphics chip died, it was stuck in windows 8.1 anyway. My current laptop is Windows 11 compatible but I'd rather wait until 10 gets discontinued (11 is still too new and unstable for my taste).
I miss WIndows XP. I used to not like the Luna UI, and I used the Classic theme mostly, but looking back on it, I really do miss the design aesthetic of it. I almost want to build a period correct Windows XP machine from the early 2000s and use it for offline things like games.
My computers now run XP and Linux (dual boot). XP works fine for everything really, I just use the Linux partition to do financial stuff online. I am typing this message to you in Opera, running on XP. I have no intention of changing.
Windows 7 will be good enough, but Windows 10. I used it like one year and it crashed 5 times before update, which completely destroyed my installation. I will be sticking with Windows 7 along with Windows POSReady 2009, also I will probably use Linux after End of Support of Windows 7
@@twin10broter I know, but I will have 180 days and I don't want to pirate it, also I think that Windows 7 will have these updates "ported" like Vista had from Windows Server 2008
I still use XP in my daily driver, but have slowly moved to Windows 7. I'm aware that support for Windows 7 ends on January 14, 2020. All the same, though, Windows XP was probably the best OS that Microsoft developed.
We will never forget windows xp and windows 7 too. Those 2 were the best. Now it's time for windows 10. It's way more stable than windows 8 and 8.1. It's simply fast and modern. You should upgrade to an ssd and get windows 10, it just deserves a try.
@@MirelRC, windows 10 is horrible. And do you know that there are people in countries that have obscenely expensive SSDs and/or no credit card? Without a SSD, windows 10's performance is abysmal (since ~2016-2017). Edit: windows 10 spies on you endlessly, etc. etc.
@@Reden777 Please, if you're going to criticise windows 10, at least base it on some facts. I've used windows 10 on both 7200rpm mechanical hard drives and SSD's are while obviously faster on SSD's programs still opened within seconds on the hard drive. Ive also ran windows 10 on fairly low spec machines (2gb ram, hard drive, intel atom) and it even ran "decently", considering it wasnt made for the specs it was on. Windows 10 also doesnt "spy on you", it collects things like inking data and used words to improve experiences, and if you dont like that there a literal toggles during setup you can press to disable it all. I understand if you don't like change, but making things up doesnt help your case.
@@nabagaca, when I speak of slowness without a SSD, I mean a laptop 5400 RPM drive. Even if you uncheck all the spying options, they may just turn themselves back on, generally on an update. There are many documented cases. It is proven that windows 10 has servers that you cannot block via the hosts file. This breaks its long standing convention. And that's leaving the sudden unstability, like that guy who lost 20 years of documents after an update so flawed that microsoft recalled it. Etc, etc, etc...
Microsoft is actually still providing new POSReady 2009 licenses to companies who request it; they just aren't officially supporting it with updates anymore, which is not that important for its intended purpose because POS terminals are usually well insulated from Internet vulnerabilities through firewalls and port blocking. But I'm sure if a critical security vulnerability is discovered in POSReady 2009 (and thus by extension XP with that registry patch), Microsoft will provide an update to fix it, just like they did twice with Windows XP in 2017. p.s. I'm typing this right now on a computer running Windows XP with the POSReady patch, using the "New Moon" web browser which is Pale Moon (classic Firefox) kept up-to-date with new features, bug fixes, and security patches for XP systems.
Last week they just retired our 6 registers at my work that were running this. But it was a needed upgrade to new registers because the old one were using intel Pentium D’s
It wasn’t my project I’m not there it guy sadly I’m just a Carry Out at the store since I’m only 17. The old registers were very slow and were starting to have many problems before the upgrade. So it was very much needed.
When my win7 laptop died in July 2014, I was back on a 32-bit XP with 512mb of ram. Believe it or not the thing still ran better than a brand new win 8.1 for me at the time lol
I miss XP and 7. I finally dumped Win10 last year and moved to Linux Mint. No crashes, no hangs, just reliable. I spent so much time housekeeping Windows over the years. It’s just gruesome.
was using POSready 2009 on an older machine but you've noticed very soon that Windows XP is abandoned. It was hard to get the software for it and in some cases even impossible
xp has not been updated for a long time, 5 years have passed since the end of the support, unfortunately there will be no other tricks to receive other security updates in the future because Windows Embeddeed POSReady 2009 is no longer supported starting today. Thanks Windows Embeddeed POSReady 2009 for giving us the opportunity to have other updates for 5 years of non-commercial Windows XP from Microsoft. R.I.P Windows XP 2001 - 2014 . R.I.P Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 2009 - 2019.
@@moth.monster trust me. I'm careful not to download stupid stuff that will give viruses. I keep Malwarebytes on there just in case I do. I've had like 1 or 2 big viruses on there since XP went out of support. At least one of those times was downloading something stupid. I just try and be careful what I download and everything seems to be okay. If in doubt, I test on another OS first because I can't afford to lose my XP installation on my XP computer because the DVD drive is broken and using a USB for XP is confusing I think. Anything newer runs slow on that computer.
My XP installation is coming from 2005. No viruses and connected to the internet 24/7. I have upgraded with the unofficial SP4 made by Ryan plus the POS trick. Recently started using Mypal browser as its still getting updated and Kaspersky Free which works fine with XP. If you are wondering how I managed that long, 2005, well I had a spare identical motherboard in the cupboard when the first gave issues about 2 years ago and on the third power supply. I dual boot XP with 7 but use XP 99% of the time. Since 2019 I had to use 7 for Steam as they dropped support for XP, but now I don't play games much anymore.
I only learned about the existence of this recently, when I started working for a company that sells POS systems. And yes, we still have a few holdouts on POSReady 2009...
@@MichaelMJD question - as in New to your channel do you it would you happen to have any videos involving the Ryzen series of CPUs? Be then existing or yet to be released?
I am watching this video on the final week of Windows 8.1's support via Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry Pro. That was the PC I was running Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 prior to Embedded 8.1 (in fact I built it specifically to run POSReady 2009 in its final year of service to ride the XP wave down--built it with absolutely blistering specs for an XP machine including a Core i5-3570, as Ivy Bridge was the last Intel generation to have official XP support, and a GTX 960). After next week I guess it'll finally be headed for retirement (there's nothing special about running Windows 10 on it).
OMG look how sleek and fancy that upgraded UI was. Never seen this os before. Wouldve been nice to get a complete xp2 (longhorn) and be able to choose between the blue here, black MCE, and a 3rd updated theme, maybe silver
I have installed posready 2009 on my pc, following mjd's video on installing it, but I can't get the stupid "evaluation copy" watermark to leave me alone. Is there a way to remove it? Help is appreciated!
There's still third party security software that supports Windows XP to this day that makes it more secure then Windows 10 that collects your every keystroke, all because there's no updates doesn't mean users have to upgrade when there's other ways to keep your computer secure witch no one ever brings up when they talk about this. Adding a registry key to get updates from a similar version of Windows also doesn't guarantee you're taking advantage of any of the updates because most system files are designed specifically for that version of WIndows and many will just not work and you'll get no notification about the updates that install but fail to take effect.
Most ATMs, POS, and other embedded systems still use XP primarily because the software is made for XP, so now they'll have to not only upgrade the OS, but also the software and the whole system
it's wierd to hear this because xp is almost 18, like me ! I've alway see windows xp computer, and this is wierd to say that my os counterpart is dying now...
I've seen the name POSReady (via a Windows ISO download site), but didn't know that it has this special importance until now. A part of me wishes I could know this earlier, but since the very first PC that completely belongs to me has Win8 preinstalled (and does not support XP), I had to stop using XP way before 2014, so even if I had known it back then it would be useless. Anyway, thanks for this nice video!
Random thing: did you know that like with POSready 2009, Windows Vista can be supported until January 14, 2020 by installing Windows Server 2008 (not R2) updates on it? Come to think of it... January 14, 2020 isn't really that far away is it? Time flies!
Yes, and it also have ESUs. And by extension a INSANELY LONG lifespan. Context : Server 2008 RTM Build compiled on January 18, 2008 and it got it's first "Patch Tuesday" on February 2008, a few days before it's release. And EOL date was settled to January 14, 2020. At this point the lifespan is a superb 12 years, same as XP. But since we know that Server 2008 is eligible to ESUs (4 years of additional support (Originally 3 but MS added an extra year back in november)), the final EOL date is settled to *January 9, 2024* ! So Server 2008 got a whole 16 years of updates... That's a lot... --- And even more, if you add Vista's RTM build compile date and release date at the equation (November 1, 2006 and January 30, 2007), you can add 14 more months to the lifespwn... So at final, the Windows NT 6.0 codebase was supported for *17 years, 2 months and 8 days* ! If we compare that XP's codebase (NT 5.1) was supported for 17 years, 7 months, and 16 days, that's remain incredible. Microsoft makes buggy OSes, but they are supported for almost two decades.
@@MirelRC, the older windows are free of in kernel spying, etc. although all of them since ~2000/nt 4 have an universal backdoor. Windows has always been a swiss cheese of holes.
Now that the source code is public it could be more than possible to make custom updates and fixes, but so is making new viruses, in fact since the source code was leaked new super powerful viruses and malware that were impossible before have started to appear, so it would be a game of whack-a-mole between making updates and fixes and hackers making new viruses, criminals have a lot to gain but the guys making the updates don't, updating an obsolete OS for 0,6% of the population is kinda stupid in the long run.
... This pressing issue takes precedence over the war between PewDiePie and T-Series... I love POSReady 2009 oh so much... We need to stand together in these difficult times...
I have just found this video and want to share. The store i work at had a refurbishment in Sep 2019, 4 months after the support for POSReady 2009 ended. We got self-scan tills installed, and guess what they run.... POSReady 2009. The main tills however run a version of Windows 10, not specified on startup. Just thought it was interesting to share
Windows 7's EOL used to be the turning point for me but I made the switch a lot sooner than expected; Linux Mint is already my daily driver on my W10 laptop and for gaming I have W10 LTSB 2016... I paid 200USD for W8 Pro when I built my main rig to end with an OS that downloads Candy Crush without my permission or reboot itself closing all my work when I go to the kitchen to prepare some coffee
weird i got w10 pro (free) cause im an insider and know how to get it legitlly without buying. Never had these issues. I do plan to buy w10 enterprise ltsb soon though as I need non bloatware version. (the one I got not really bloatware) I just want more control over stuff. But I guess it does not matter since I like installing new builds.
@@DragonProtector that was in 2013 already and I got the W10 Pro update for free during the first year; at home I have a very slow Internet connection so automatic updates don't let me browse the web properly while it's downloading, plus outside MS Office sudden reboots with unsaved work in a third party program just lead to frustration and even if you saved it just interrupts you flow of work, the worst way to start working again if you took a quick break, this is what made me wipe W10 Pro and install LTSB using an iso I got from the IT of my job at that time because it is a no nonsense OS
oh god the pre LTSB memories of me just turning on my good ol' Q6600 with a LOUD GTX 295 instead of my newer machine to get some job done resurfaced again, thank you Internet person
@@DragonProtector it would take me several hours to upload it and mine's in Spanish but you can try it form (make sure to select LTSC) www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise after that is up to you which method you can use to activate
tbh they should have reccomended an upgrade to 7 not 8.1 as 8 dropped a lot of support for older intel igpus and a lot of other things and afaik 7 supported xp drivers to a degree
We had this on the pizzeria POS. Then we updated to POSReady 7. The pizzeria closed in late 2019 and will probably open back in 2021 after the pandemic.
if windows xp no longer supported and people move on then it the perfect os to have since hackers and stuff will look at oses being used more not outdated oses.
It's interesting that I never heard about these things, and seems to have had some of the things I wanted like customizing the install of things so one can tick does games off and make it like you wanted.
i miss xp - i would buy a win10 license if ms added a classic and xp classic mode that could use 9x/2k ancient widnow themes and also at the least the 4 or 5 official xp luna variants like royale
that doesnt really go far enough though it just gives you an old style start menu and a couple other things, no 9x2k ancient appearance or xp visual styles, theres some methods to get somewhat close but its still a long ways off, the native options ive seen - need windowblinds to do it "properly" now but i never liked that method because its just an overlay skin and wastefulof resources; i guess that matters less in modern times with 8+gb of ram and 16 threads but it was alot better in xp times where you just patch a single dll and then can use any unsigned native visual style, and the software for editing them was quite friendly as well i even made my own dead or alive volleyball theme from scratch and color edited several others win10 just feels extremely ugly and lazy, its starting to improve a little now with the light taskbar option and the transparency return but that all only works properly with the metro apps, which i never use for anything, they're worse than phone apps usually (maybe thats why windows phone failed) i think this push for minimalism in recent yeats has went a bit too far and killed software beauty
I recently installed POSready 2009 on an old Pentium 4 machine, and it was connected to the internet. And it was even pre-configured to search and install updates automatically everyday at 3pm. I knew that it wouldn't work anyway because as you said support ended on April 9th, 2019. But I was blown away as I was shutting down the computer, Windows said: "Don't turn off your computer, installing update 1 of 248" Rebooted the computer, and all the updats were installed. I said to myself WTF! it had downloaded in the background without my knowledge, and installed updates anyway? Even though the support ended last year, this was very very weird. Confused face.
Will you still be able to get updates from windows update if you have a fresh install of XP? Or would you have to try to get them from third parties..?
I never owned a machine that ran XP, but I used it in school. I had a windows 95 machine that I kind of just played with as a kid and ran some crappy games on, then I bought my first PC in 2007, and got stuck with Vista. a few years later my granddad bought me a new computer as a high school graduation gift, and I was on windows 7 from then until 2017 when I built my current gaming machine myself. Of course I installed windows 10 on it. To this day I've still never actually seen Windows 8.1 in person, haha! I really enjoyed windows 7, and now after using it for more than a year, I'm comfortable with windows 10, although some days I think I like win7 better. and only one feature of windows Vista do I miss, the included version of Windows Movie Maker. I whipped up a lot of mediocre RU-vid content on that bad boy.
Supporting one version of an OS for more than 10 years is INSANE and no one should be surprised when after such a long time you are asked to finally upgrade.
MS tried upgrade Windows 7 users (like me) to Win10. Nope, thank u but I prefer Win7 not a Win10. I say WinXP was a good in era from 2001 to 2019. So sad WinXP (NT5.1) is officially gone.
