@@khunbabywaifu7086 Stifling sort of just means it stops the flow of what is going on. Whether that be the actual pace of the comic, or pushes the writer away from wanting to continue the script, it's possible to creep in many different ways. Have a great day and I hope this helps :p
I actually really like describing the composition a bit when writing a script. It just helps the narrative flow better for me when planning it out, because then it starts feeling like an actual story.
What is your thoughts of using storyboard as part of the script process? For my webcomic I want the action to move the story along. I am using little to no dialogue as much as possible and focus the pictures to give the reader insight. I was really inspired by the show Primal, Mad Max: Fury Road, and the silent graphic Novel: The Arrival. For me writing the script first may conflict with that.
But bones, if I write out the story I nolonger care about it, like if I'm drawing out the comic and I'm just making things happen I'm alright but if I write it out then try to rewrite that in comic form I don't want it anymore
When I did comics in high school for fun, all I needed was one paragraph. Most of the time, there was no script at all. I would literally freestyle an entire 22-page comic book over the course of a few weeks. Now, I find myself writing hundreds of drafts for the same scene over and over, and I think it's all terrible. I don't even want to waste my paper on thumbnails until I get the story idea just right. Watching this video made me think about how I got like this. It used to be about fun, not perfection. What happened to me?
maybe you’re the special kind of person who doesn’t need scripts or thumbnails :) at the very least, drawing and writing, even if it’s crappy, is better than no drawing or writing at all
Personally for me scripting is just hard in general. Like ACTUALLY writing in general is hard for me. I often stare for hours at the blank document and then get frustrated with myself because I'm wasting my own damn time just... Staring at it... but the words just aren't happening. I DO use a script though. I'm not the most confident writer (I don't even consider my self a writer, rather a storyteller) so I have a few friends who ARE writers read them first because it's A LOT easier ton change things in the script than it is to reorganize pages in the thumbnailed version. For me what I find helpful is to write a brief outline of your story then "Zoom in" on a chapter, then "Zoom in" onto a scene and to that one at a time that way.
I often begin with ideas or scenes. I then do characters [needs versus desires], each has a secret etc.... The key to finishing is just having an idea for each scene: notes and move on if you can't figure out exactly how you want the scene. Once the story is complete and finished, go back and tweak the scenes to flow. First drafts are not finished work. Relax and just have fun; complete the story. It can even be "bad", but once the bones are down then you can polish. Good is the enemy of perfect, but perfect is the enemy of writing.
As a kid I used to play with toys and had these huge epics and character moments. Had trouble writing for many years. So I went with what works. I'm a grown ass adult playing with toys to aid with my writing.
@@OnyxPeril no, you can do this with any type of story telling. It can be films, novels, comics... if you want a visual representation of your story, you make a storyboard.
kayleecraft66 it’s better to learn from experience just get a simple image and draw it then gradually try to draw from memory in your own style and stuff
@@inactivechannel6365 i use a mix of horrible sloppy inconsistent drawings that look like a 5 year old drew for unimportant or scenes inbetween major events and every now and then i put in a really nice drawing that may take me hours to draw but looks really good for major or scenes that i want to have dramatic effect
@pinkpaprikaa I know that comment probably wasn't too serious, but writing a novel is a completely different task than writing a script, and requires a lot more skillsets. Generally I advice not attempting novels if you truly want to make a webtoon deep down and are not too passionate about novels.
y'all been on fire with these comic videos, exactly what I need to hear all the time!! I finally bit the bullet and started moving with my comic even though I put it off for almost a year.
This is encouraging, thanks man! I tend to write a little more than a bullet point list for my script so far but each time my script gets more and more sophisticated so I'm kind of baby stepping it.
O... oh... You write scripts panel by panel... I'm so freaking stupid, I've been writing them like movie scripts, by scene and task, not by panel! That's genius!
I think my problem is that i hate myself lmao. I always come up with ideas and concepts and then the idea of fleshing it out and writing scripts and dialogs makes me cringe for some reason. and i think that reason is just self hatred...
Same, I've had ideas for a Rudolph comic for like 2 years now and I've only gotten around to making 1 page without a script that was terrible lol. I just think about it and get excited and then remember I need to make a script and I just deflate instantly
LynxxArt same here. Tho recently I’ve come up with some ideas that I’m pretty excited about and the script part doesn’t make me uncomfortable. But some unwanted philosophy from me lmao, the longer you spend thinking about it and world building the better your idea will be! I believe in you, we shall put aside our self hatred together my friend. Good luck btw!
You can think like this - there is always a person that would like your story telling. If someone doesn't like it, it's only because it's not really for them. After all you can change anything, that's the writing process.
Just a few moments ago I was watching your video "Comic scripts: How Much Should I Write?" and after watching that video I went looking for one on how to write scripts and now you upload this! :'O This channel is wonderful, you really do not know what helps me all this < 3 Greetings from Argentina! [Sorry for my bad english, haha ^^"]
"Some find it creatively stifling, some of you find it tedious..." Some of us have to finish a comic in 10 days because theyre stupid and make difficult promises to their horrifyingly terrifying English teachers and desperately need help.
Not long ago in class we told our History teacher what we were gonna study after highschool and I said I was gonna make comics She asked me to make a comic about a History topic. I did, and next week I showed it to her ...No. Turns out it had to be about _several_ History topics. It was at that moment that my motivation got Thanos'd, and I still haven't gotten around to making it
@T P what were you thinking? You know how long it takes to create a single comicbook solo? Even a professional publisher with a whole team of artists and writers can take them months. Hopefully you didn't promise a full length one and you got away with just making a 10 page minicomic or an ashcan.
ive gotten so used to writing scrips with thumbnails before even starting the finished pages, what i do is i write the whole story in thumbnails and then i thumbnail each page a second time changing things before working on a finished page. scripting with thumbnails helps me because it helps me visualize that action.
I’ve been seeing however, that when I do a script I tend to forget the comic aspect. I will still do a script but definitely it will change in the thumbnails for the simple reason that I get over the top when writing. It’s like saying that sooo many things happened in the script and it’s indeed interesting according to beta readers.... for a novel where what happens in a paragraph you take 50 panels to make XD Still I like scripts but I no longer make it as the final form before thumbnails, rather I do thumbnails, then script, then thumbnails But this is obviously because I’m both the artist and story creator of my comic, I’ve never felt 100% like only a writer even If I have made projects entirely about writing ^^
I can’t fathom starting my graphic novel project without a script. 😨 I’ve spent YEARS on world-building, lore, developing the themes and philosophies which underpin the story... if I went in without a script that would all be for naught as major themes wind up forgotten or lack adequate foreshadowing and so-on. I doubt I’ll start drawing at ALL until the scripts for at least the first arc and parts of the second are written and edited. And then I’d probably sit on them for a while so I could come back with fresh eyes and edit again. That said, I’m really approaching my project as a writer would a novel, and I’m the kind of writer who tends to plan pretty heavily. My world and lore are huge and would become REALLY unwieldy if I just flew in blind. It being a graphic novel makes that anxiety of an early oversight SO much worse because it’s so much more difficult and time-consuming to go back and change.
@@M1LKBO1- Thank you! I’m not even close to starting the big one, but I’ve started a side-project set in the same universe so I can practice actually putting together a comic. It’s called Blue Star Rebellion, you can find it on Tapas and WEBTOON!
Cut out the fluff.. this is a visual medium.. if you want to write a novel then write a novel. But 5 complete drafts of your comicbook script should fit within a single notebook. And if you've only written a single draft then you got miles and miles to go..remember what I said, cut the fluff and don't hold your readers hand. Don't weigh yourself down with "lore and backstory", there is a better more visual way to present this.
So I make scripts solely because I have an editor because I no speel the goods :p. I have a story outline all written out but none of that goes into my scripts ie i don't describe settings n what not, I have a background in animation and I am super visual. like for example, I don't think in monologs or words but pictures and movies esk.(its weird I know but it's my brine ) so for me write my scripts in the storybording\ thumbnailing process then transfer it into a script word document after. it also makes it faster for me as well. I normally get 10-21 pages done of my comic in a week this way. and I'm not saying you are wrong in any way I solely agree its whatever works for you. I just thought id throw my hat in this ring and give my perspective.
Lol I just finished the script for chapter 3 of my comic! I didn't write a script for the other 2 chapters, but I really like how it turned out so I'm probably going to write a script from now on.
This video was rambly, and the only advice was "just do it." "Find a way that works for you." And "My scripts are super simple." I guess you might only have your own method, but if you're gonna make a video on it you could include a couple more examples of ways to do it. Ask other comic book friends what they do.
Omg this helps so much. I'm a idiot. I'm also a schizophrenic so organized thought is really hard so this was really helpful. Scripts don't have to be detailed...
My scripts are very rough and hand written. But I can concur that they are very helpful as a starting point and make thumbnails easy. Thank you for confirming that I am in the right direction lol Always second guessing myself! ... Subscribed.
I love writing, just as much as I love drawing, but the first time I tried to write a comic I went in with just the ideas in my head. I found that it wouldnt translate well in drawing, so now I am trying again with scripts first
Hello can I get some feed back? I have 7 story ideas I wrote back in highschool and want to make them into web comics (the stories will be revamped while working on the scripts.) However I have no artistic skill. I don't want a partner because that's just not my style so I have to learn to draw. Should take 4 years to learn to draw first then do my comics or start now? If I start now I think they be way to bad so I want to ask I should learn to draw first. Any advice be appreciated
While I do agree with your point that learning how to draw first would be highly recommended and it's also better in the long run if you're looking to publish those stories (bec better drawings = better quality), 4 years is kind of a short time to develop the skillset you need for drawing comics. But then again, if you're consistent and disciplined then you could probably be ready to pump out comics within 4 years. Bottom line is, giving yourself a time limit that's a bit unrealistic could pressure you unnecesarily and burn you out. In my experience, it's better to just enjoy the process. You'll retain more info that way. Also, please start with real-life anatomy, not stylized stuff like animes or cartoons. I did the opposite and now i'm trying to kind of rewind the process, kind of like the "I will face god and walk backwards into hell" meme..
@@briannegabriellesanjuan4113 I haven't drawn from life yet but I gave drawn from scenes of watership down I think they are ok not great. One of my stories is about rabbits inspired by that movie ( all my stories are different just one is about animals) I have drawn by referencing (no tracing) but I can't draw the rabbits without looking at the reference very frustrating. Also I wish I would have started drawing back in 2012 so I would have the skill but I kept putting myself down saying I sucked or couldn't do it. So I just thought and wrote out stories instead. Very tedious now but I have to do it because just from doing those rabbit drawings I love it.
@@Spooky799kil almost every video of theirs (ursula and bones) tells us to just do it and really, just do it man. By "it" I mean draw and practice and work your skill level up until you've got enough info stored in your brain and your hand (bec muscle memory) that you don't really need to look at references every single time you have to draw. But you clearly love drawing so I think soon enough you'll be making awesome illustrations ^v^ just keep going at it!!
i know this is an old video, but i just found yall. thank you for changing the way i think about scripting! i am a writer/artist, but wrote my story in traditional paragraph format, cuz ideas flowed faster that way. or i would just thumbnail/dialogue at the same time since i am the writer/artist. i will give this another shot with this frame of mind in the future!
i've learned the best thing for me is to plan with the thumbnail. so i like putting the script/dialogue with the thumbnails so i can plan where the words go, thinking on what people are saying, ect. while others like writing it on a word doc. its whatever works for you and your creative flow
I've actually recently completed my script and am in the thumbnail process. These videos have been a big help so far in not just the creation process, but in keeping motivated. So thanks!
I personally am working on a comic. First I write the main story (how the story starts, what is the rising action, climax and falling action. Then the ending.) Secondly, I write the synopsis would be, I just extend it more and more so that I can keep on track what I want. Finally, I'm working on the script per episode because the dialogue will show you how the scene is portrayed, idk if you seen only scripts and then your imagination just plays around with the scene.
Keep strong. Dont forget that despite the struggles and madness in this world today, God is full of justice, mercy and love. Justice said we broke His perfect law - causing the world's previous perfection to be destroyed - and therefore we deserve Hell (like a punishment in any legal system but this is eternal as His perfect law is eternal too). Don't think you fit in that category? Ever done one of these?: lying, stealing - regardless of how small the object EVER, hating others - which is murder in God's perfect law, lusting (plus God sees our entire thought life). Justice says "the soul that sins shall die" - if we break one in thought/word/deed it's as if we're guilty of all of them. Quite simply, living by the law (which is doing everything perfectly) is impossible for sinful humans . The law shows us that 1. We will die in Hell if we fail to follow it and 2. We cannot save ourselves BUT, 3. God's perfect, immovable law points us to Christ, who followed and fulfilled the law in thought, word and deed perfectly in our place. He did what we couldn't and did it on our behalf. He was then sentenced to death on a cross, and took our personal punishment for our sin, paying our penalty (like paying our fine) completely FOR us, and has given us freedom. If we turn from the sins we have committed and repent (pursue the opposite direction of love through Christ) He will, overtime, recreate us back into that previously perfect image through The Holy Spirit which Jesus sends to all who accept Him as their personal Lord and Savior of their life. He will help us through the struggle, the stress, and anything we experience in the world. It's about letting Christ in to guide and teach you and obeying Him through His power (not ourselves, we need Him to help us as it's impossible without depending on His power and instruction). He is our substitute in His life, death and resurrection. He essentially rewrote history in our place so that, if you believe in Him, it will be as if you had never sinned if you accept Christ's death as our own in our place. He is in Heaven right now preparing a place for us so that He can take His faithful, believing children home with Him when He returns. He will ressurrect us from death when He returns, giving mercy to those who accept His love, instruction and teachings in their life, and give justice to those who refuse it. He doesn't want ANY of us to go to Hell and die for continuing in evil and rejecting His way to life, thats why He died FOR us. Hes giving EVERYONE a chance, He wants everyone to take the free gift of salvation from Hell. He wants us to be His and begin to follow His life of love and service through His power and abiding (staying) with Him. So long as we keep our hearts near to Christ through His strength, strive to follow His will of perfect love revealed in the Bible, and let Him lead in the midst of (very certain) pitfalls and struggles, we will, in time, win the ultimate victory over sin, pain and DEATH through Christ. Even if you are willing to be made willing, pray for Jesus to come in and He will do what we can't. Give us The Holy Spirit who will guide us in the right way. Christ says in John 16:33: I have told you these things, so that in Me you may have [perfect] peace. In the world you have tribulation and distress and suffering, but be courageous [be confident, be undaunted, be filled with joy]; I have overcome the world.” [My conquest is accomplished, My victory abiding.] - (AMPLIFIED version) NOTE: You are NEVER too sinful or messed up that God cannot turn your life around through Jesus. EVER. Regardless of what you've done or what you're going through you CAN make it through Jesus.
Aaaaahhh!! Love you guys and this video!!!^________^ I have started several comic scripts and I enjoy it!!^_^ I’ve been finding some fun notebooks for each of my stories!!^_____^ Thanks, Bones-sensei!!^__^ Well said, Bonesy…^____________^
How do you guys find an artist to work with? Do you self-publish your comic books and do you draft up a contract with the artist? I'm just curious. I write novels but always wanted to try my hand at writing comic books.
I’ve been writing ✍️ comic plot stories all of my life and I’m doing a Gift comics for Capdocks on Twitter! And I wrote them in paper 📝 too you know!😃😄😁😉
Personally I prefer to do what I call a "flesh out" comic and yeah, I'll do them more than once sometimes if I've put too much work into it and don't want to trash it. I create my own pages by folding computer paper to my desired size (either folded in half or I'll cut the half and fold it into quarters) depending on the scene. I'll sketch a quick and dirty of the scenes, never really working more than the body. I add the relevant parts to the scene, the things the characters interact with and experiment with where I want my dialogue. I tend to work on the fly, which I'm sure makes this a lot harder than it needs to be but hey, it works for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I never knew people hated script writing. Right now I'm writing a story for a graphic novel that Ive been developing for years and I'm finally taking it seriously. I'm currently writing out the "outline" that has all the details and general things that I want to happen in my story in order. I only plan to write the "script" with dialogue and such when I get to the drawing part of it. Sometimes it's dry or even a little cringe but I love the idea of writing dialogue for my characters cause I get to come up with what they'll sound like and how they interact with each other. I obviously need more experience but I won't know until I try.
If you guys want a script format but are having trouble with it, I would highly recommend the app WriterDuet. It will do the format work for you with minimal input from you, and any mistakes that it makes are easy to fix. For me personally, it's more intuitive than Celtx.
A trick for everyone who is feeling stuck when writing about different characters, or your story in general. Think about how you would describe your story to a friend to make them understand what you are talking about. Imagine you're a person who doesn't know anything from your story and someone explains to you, how would you start? What key points would you tell someone in order to not bore/overload them with info, but neither forgetting important things. I think is more fun this way :)
To be honest I don’t dislike writing scripts, it’s actually the opposite. When I get into the flow of writing, I kid you not, I could write a whole book if I wanted to. I just find it really difficult to actually start, I have written a bit (like 7 paragraphs worth) of the plot but I always get sidetracked with other things, so when I have to get back to it, I find it excruciatingly difficult to actually get the ball rolling...
Anyone else have that issue where you write a script, and the mental image of what you wrote flows in ur mind, but you can’t for the life of you know how to put what’s in ur head on paper??? No?????? Just me?????????
I don't know clip studio paint, but some programs that are not even focused on comics have functions that allow one to make an "automatically clean" guttering, instead of having to erase these intersections. In Krita you'd just draw the guttering flat, and then set the layer style to have an "outline," and done, the standard inner outlines are there, with nothing to clean. With a vectorial layer one can even make it so that the panels can be somewhat expanded or shrinked just by dragging and dropping its borders, or inclining or however one wants to style them.
I mean yeah the story skeleton is hard but, I kinda find them fun, like a collage all I do is write down the main stuff that happens cut it up and see where it fits best it can be fun 🤷🏻♀️ a lot of my other ideas come from doing that and it quickly turns into something I can work with
:( I always jump to try new things! Look at me. I am going to write a script second I can’t even draw what I wrote. :( aaaah how it will take. I bad at drawing, I can’t even write a story that makes sense!
My main problem is actually WRITING IT DOWN. Like, I have a clear idea of the story and where I want it to go in my head, but when I go to type up the outline for the comic I just shut down. Is there any way to get past that?
I love doing scripts. I like to first write the story in sinple sentences and then add dialoge and small details. And then I change a lot of stuff while maiking the pages.
Publishers need the entire story in a synopsis. Condense everything important to 2 double spaced pages. Publishers know this is hard and makes stories sound more boring than they are, but they need it to know the full scope of the story.
Judge: What's the verdict? Jury Rep: We, the jury, declare scriptwriting....passable. Hahaha, jk, I just thought it was funny that some people were so vehemently against scripting. I think you made your case for it well! Thank you for your input! You (have already) totally convinced me this is the way to go!
0:45 I can’t do scripts for things like videos, but for comics I always outline each scene and write the dialogue exactly how I want it. That way I don’t have to remember the dialogue in my head when I start thumbnailomg and doing the pages
I personally love scriptwriting. I usually write an outline, draft and then a script, before I even start drawing. scripts really help the story to flow coherently. good to find a workflow that works for you.
XD I want to make a comic myself but I'm not really good at drawing, writing is my thing. How would that work out if I was doing or well needed the opposite. I have all the ideas. I can possibly create designs of the characters and write down I see them or so but that's about it for now until I get better. Plus I still can't really draw bodies haha, I need an artist.
Having an artist partner may help you out.(I may be of assistance) Or if you're willing to put in the work and learn how to draw, which if you do that, will take a while before you're confident with your work.
I seriously thought I was the ONLY one who writes his own scripts for tutorials lol. This is awesome. I'm currently on page 8 of my comic book that I'm creating. The script is so detailed like a movie. I had NO idea I could simplify it like this. Thank you so so so so much. You've got yourself another subscriber.
