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How Army Lost the Support of Pakistan’s Middle Class ft. Niaz Murtaza | 417 | TBT 

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@shoaibkhattak3511
@shoaibkhattak3511 День назад
Clarity of this guest is amazing. After HEC chairman from ep 93, this guest clarity of thought is fabulous❤
@northern_light
@northern_light День назад
If you can't put your house in order, it's nonsense to discuss how other families are doing. Pakistan needs fundamental reform in politics. It discusses more geopolitics than of its internal problems
@rajaafaq497
@rajaafaq497 День назад
Ja ja tur ja
@linkotalks
@linkotalks День назад
bhae hum guma phira k hi bat kar sakty hain, direct bat karn tou utha laity hain us ko
@navidahmad7459
@navidahmad7459 22 часа назад
As an old man I pray our establishment get together with politicians and other institutions and work out for a middle ground for the sake of country.
@AshiqWaheed-g8c
@AshiqWaheed-g8c День назад
Imran Khan was unable to do something Different between 2018 - 2022 because of Forces behind General Bajwa was interrupted every time Imran khan want do more Progressive and Different Somebody have to Stop General’s Interference According to my Analysis
@Pal3stin3ix_Lov3
@Pal3stin3ix_Lov3 День назад
@@AshiqWaheed-g8c so you mean Imran was a spineless guy?Had bajwa been the wrong person why didn't Imran asked him to mind his own business or just resign? Also remember Pervaiz Illahi never let anybody badmouth about bajwa.
@brs802
@brs802 День назад
Why did he give him extension then. He could have appointed a guy as per his wish. He was either spineless or a fool😂. Or maybe he was complicit.
@Adnan-cm9zp
@Adnan-cm9zp День назад
What you forget to write is, IK was puppet of Bajwa
@FajuzStream
@FajuzStream 5 часов назад
Great questions on leadership vacuum section...
@MianSherjil
@MianSherjil 12 часов назад
Your guest as a very superfecial knowledge of the problem. Where ever you ask in depth question for example why remote sindh didnt rise up against these status quo his answer is same as taught to the urban masses by the army.
@pramodofindia
@pramodofindia 11 часов назад
India was politically stable even when it was NOT following neoliberal policies.
@manojchowdhary4208
@manojchowdhary4208 День назад
Sir - Pakistan should never worry. Pakistan is a nazriati mulq like Israel, formed during the holy month, and Waahid Islamic nuclear power of the world. Pakistan’s problems are caused by saazish of yahood o hanood o nissara though China is a trusted friend. Pakistan is also a leader of the Muslim ummah and provides security to them all over the world.
@srinivasanpr1112
@srinivasanpr1112 День назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September former dictator worked as employee of jordon to throu plo into syria in 1971
@Khan_O
@Khan_O День назад
Hahahaha this is a joke right?
@neverknow5931
@neverknow5931 11 часов назад
Hahahahaha either you're faujeet or you've good humour
@aminraja5383
@aminraja5383 День назад
In case of breaking PTI then TLP emerge with more dangerous
@nitinsaklecha3262
@nitinsaklecha3262 День назад
Elephant in the room is china...they are not talking about....USA has gone away from PAK because of PAK and China closeness in last decades
@srinivasanpr1112
@srinivasanpr1112 День назад
pak stop blaming others andlook inward on the corrupt people, society and ruler
@zahirshah7683
@zahirshah7683 20 часов назад
Insightful analysis.
@Suha2270
@Suha2270 18 часов назад
Good questions.
@avtarwasson4875
@avtarwasson4875 День назад
Nice to see Niaz and enjoy reading his articles.
@razashahzaidi
@razashahzaidi 7 часов назад
Kindly select 1 language for ur podcasts... English OR Urdu The combination is not easy to understand
@my2pence.714
@my2pence.714 День назад
I have started watching this episode as soon as it got posted. Still watching.How come there are comments on the content less than 5 minutes in? The video is over an hour long. Take your time guys. Watch it through first.
@Shobi342
@Shobi342 День назад
😊 good points, can you share leadership development examples in other countries. If u go by people will and votes they have 4 tested leaders, MNS,IK,AAZ, MFR.
@asimjabbar8445
@asimjabbar8445 День назад
Everyone knows the problem. Military Business industrial complex, oppressive agencies, absolute control, absolute authority, sheer incompetence of the absolute powerful. Mafia rent seekers ganged up with them Etc etc. What's the practical viable solution? What people and masses can do under these circumstances for better future? Ask for the solutions plz. The problem has been discussed to death for past 3 or so years. But what's the practical solution for the common man, given the circumstances and elites gonna be the same or even worse than that obviously
@kachrachi
@kachrachi 12 часов назад
Muzamil's views have disappeared. Perhaps due to the monotony of the content and long duration? Point to ponder.
@PakistanSimplified
@PakistanSimplified День назад
This episode featuring Dr. Niaz Murtaza provides a critical analysis of the evolving political landscape in Pakistan, particularly focusing on the shifting dynamics between the military and the middle class. Murtaza's insights into how the army has lost support from this vital demographic highlight the growing disillusionment with the traditional power structures that have long dominated the country. One of the most compelling points made is the disconnect between the military's perceived role as a stabilizing force and the reality of its influence over civilian governance. The middle class, once seen as a supporter of military-backed regimes, is increasingly aware of the detrimental effects of this relationship on democratic institutions and civic freedoms. Murtaza's assertion that the army’s heavy-handed approach is unsustainable resonates deeply, especially in light of the mounting pressures for accountability and transparency from the public. Moreover, the discussion about the historical context of Pakistan’s political turmoil adds layers to understanding current events. Murtaza effectively addresses the internal struggles that have perpetuated instability, such as the manipulation of democratic processes and the sidelining of political dissent. His analysis of the Pakistan-U.S. relationship also sheds light on how external influences have contributed to internal strife, complicating the already challenging landscape. The episode raises critical questions about the future of military rule in Pakistan and whether it can adapt to the aspirations of a more informed and engaged citizenry. Murtaza's emphasis on the need for constitutional reform is particularly relevant, as it suggests a pathway towards a more equitable political system. As the podcast explores the implications of movements like the PTM, it becomes evident that Pakistan is at a crossroads, facing challenges that require bold leadership and innovative solutions. Overall, this episode is a thought-provoking exploration of the factors contributing to Pakistan's current state, urging listeners to consider the importance of civic engagement and the role of the middle class in shaping a more democratic future. Murtaza’s articulate critique serves as a reminder that genuine change requires both introspection and collective action, making this discussion essential for anyone interested in the future of Pakistan.
@tariquekhan1118
@tariquekhan1118 День назад
What are "middle class" in Pakistan? What kinds of social attitudes define or describe "middle class" in Pakistan? Many in Pakistan seem to think "middle class" is about disposable income, ideas are particularly unwelcome in Pakistan, unless of course they are sold as a kind violent religiosity. The analysis offered is off kilter, Pakistan's dysfunction is a result of US over lordship - yawn, and this passes for not being partisan. Even Gid can't help you if you cannot be truthful.
@vijaypoola8733
@vijaypoola8733 День назад
Army should be at border protecting country or in barracks and not doing politics. IK won elections inspite of army rigging.He should be PM.
@rajaafaq497
@rajaafaq497 День назад
Great analysis
@mhd6341
@mhd6341 День назад
Keep up the good work. Keep educating everyone 👌🏼
@unitedstatesofindia1460
@unitedstatesofindia1460 День назад
Me from India " why is the military letting these kind of podcasts being aired " 😅😅
@talhapardasi3181
@talhapardasi3181 День назад
Because they can't control it but Army is currently deploying mechanism imported from China to control content on internet Just as China controlling it's media
@aunabbas8582
@aunabbas8582 День назад
Itnay buray halat abhi nahi aye.
@saadraees09
@saadraees09 День назад
He’s in Dubai so he’s safe lol
@Abstract.x
@Abstract.x 10 часов назад
Because he isn't in Pakistan and his criticism of the army isn't too harsh
@notzul7138
@notzul7138 День назад
Bro says old elite system ko replace kar lein with new elite system. Literally thats what he said economic mind gymnastics terminology main 😂. Said ke neoliberal way of market ko humy khatam kar dena chahiye by state intervention and subsidies this that blah blah but end main he was like humy es neo liberal nizaam k elites (old ones) ko replace kar dena chahiye with new neo liberal elites 😂. Like pehly paani tha trickle down system main ab bro us main glucose mix kar ke dubara trickle down ki koshish karny ka keh raha 👏
@meenahil652
@meenahil652 День назад
Isays registration closed for the Zaar thing. What's about it
@muhammadasimsabir8526
@muhammadasimsabir8526 День назад
Bohot achi baten ki gai hain is podcast men, abhi bhi kuch umeed hai k Pakistan ko sahi kiya ja sakta hai and I am sure k jab bhi koi bhi Pakistan k liye acha karnay jayayga Pakistan lovers hamesha usko pasand karengay aur past ki ghalatiyon ko bhi bhool jaingay. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!
@sohailkhattak6127
@sohailkhattak6127 День назад
This is a show or selfpublicity?
@humaira917
@humaira917 День назад
Title dekh k I was like Muzamil ka bhi abduct honay ka mood hai 😂
@MrMirza2423
@MrMirza2423 День назад
There is no clarity making what your guest tries to say
@tilakmahto8179
@tilakmahto8179 15 часов назад
Why didn't u make such videos before No confidence motion ? You even defended Asim Bajwa's embezzlement then 😂😂😂
@hamzakamyana8587
@hamzakamyana8587 11 часов назад
عمران خان زندہ آباد۔ ❤❤❤
@leopard411
@leopard411 4 часа назад
Youthias think Pakistan means only them. We still support our military, and no one stops anyone from doing businesses. Mehnat kar hasad na kar bhai woh bhi India se paisay le kar
@wajahatansari1400
@wajahatansari1400 19 часов назад
❤❤❤
@NomyWT
@NomyWT День назад
😢😢 wtf bro. Without military you are nothing
@Abstract.x
@Abstract.x 10 часов назад
Oh shut up dude just shut up with this "fauj humare hifazat kerte he" bs. Literally no one's buying this anymore
@MrBasitnazir
@MrBasitnazir 19 часов назад
🫡👍🏻
@HuzaifaWaseem-l4x
@HuzaifaWaseem-l4x День назад
Imran Khan literally destroyed Pakistan 😭🙏🏼.
@ZS0719
@ZS0719 День назад
And you sound literally like a true citizen of PAGALISTAN!!!! Unbelievable JAHIL and ignorant thing to say!!!! Imran Khan has opened the eyes and minds of people!!!!!!!!!
@ammarqazi8074
@ammarqazi8074 День назад
@huzaifawaseem-l4x " 1947 سے 2024 تک پاکستان کو برباد کرنے والے آج بھی اقتدار میں بیٹھے ہیں۔ کشمیر سے لے کر مشرقی پاکستان تک سب کچھ دے بیٹھے ہو اور ابھی بھی الزام خان کو دے رہے ہو۔ جاہل انسان، grow up، پٹواری جاہل، انپڑھ لوگ!
@HuzaifaWaseem-l4x
@HuzaifaWaseem-l4x День назад
@@ZS0719 PTI Supporters ❌ Andhbhakt ✅
@AkhnoorBhagat
@AkhnoorBhagat День назад
​@@HuzaifaWaseem-l4x and shirf family and Bhutto family who destroy pakistan is good family politics and family partys destroy pakistan this reality and no speak against army rule majority of imf loan taking by shirf family and Bhutto family and military dictatorship time 😂
@msarsaad123
@msarsaad123 День назад
stop promoting day trading. irresponsible.
@spiritoforient2557
@spiritoforient2557 Час назад
جس طرح ان صاحب نے پی ٹی آئی کو ایکوئشن سے نکالا ہے اور ایم کیو ایم کو ڈالا ہے یہ یقیناً داد کے مستحق ہیں 😂
@ashishsehgal296
@ashishsehgal296 День назад
The guest is spot on. Apni fauj ko control mien laiye
@shahbazakhtar101
@shahbazakhtar101 День назад
Niaz sb said about Muzammil: "You are not biased towards a certain party..." What a joke. Earth being flat could be true but not this. He smells like youthia from even 10million miles away. Other than that Muzammil is a good man with a great podcast which I love.
@RabbiaShah-v1g
@RabbiaShah-v1g День назад
Cry harder. Can not even tolerate a structured argument. The mental gymnastics you have to go through to find a reason to not support PTI is sad. I pray for your mental well being and hope it doesn't pass to your future generations
@shahbazakhtar101
@shahbazakhtar101 День назад
@@RabbiaShah-v1g Lol, I am a PTI voter myself but not a Youthia. Well maybe youthia is offensive. I am not a blind supporter... Hope this is nicer.
@saadraees09
@saadraees09 День назад
There’s nothing wrong with being a supporter of a party but the fact is that he doesn’t let his bias be a part of his conversations. He like any Pakistani has the right to be in favor of the party they like. Everyone has their preferences, what matters is how they can put aside their preferences for the sake of the conversation. On the other hand there are others who claim to extremely objective, but every time they open their mouth they can’t help but show their biases.
@waseemchaudhary3138
@waseemchaudhary3138 6 часов назад
And you smell like PATWARI from even 10 million miles away. Your name SHAHBAZ is a proof 😂
@ZS0719
@ZS0719 День назад
PAGALISTAN mein investment is a big NO!!!!! Until they get rid of the army chiefs and generals !!!!!
@naveedchoudhry3525
@naveedchoudhry3525 День назад
Is Niaz a youthia?
@Rajeevrana-d8w
@Rajeevrana-d8w День назад
Indian here 🇮🇳 mera ek sawal hai, jab imran khan the tab pakistan mai inflation all time High pa tha, jab unhone choda tab (19% in 2022) ab inflation wagra kafi control mai hai (6% in sept 2024) "according to State bank of pakistan" , toh ap log imran khan sa itna pyar kyu karte hain? Jabki data ke according to unka time mai pak economy na jada suffer kia or ab thoda recover kar rahi hai, ground reality maybe bilkul alag ho sakti hai, correct me if I'm wrong. And Jise sa pehla koi pakistani comment kare ki tu apna desh ka dekh or apna wohi purana stereotype baat bol kie Indian's don't have toilets, toh unhe bata dun ki pakistan mai 34% people DON'T have toilets, Jake Google karlo khud world bank ki report hain. Wasa toh ek economically weak pakistan india ka lia acha hai par iske karan normal pakistani log suffer karte hain woh dekh ke as a human acha nahi lagta, Anyways love and peace from India i hope dono deshon ka relation behtar hoo. 🇮🇳🤝🇵🇰
@arminius6506
@arminius6506 День назад
I read your two lines and just stopped. Under Khan patrol was like 140 and under Military rule it's 270-280 now
@Alizaiblashari-w8h
@Alizaiblashari-w8h День назад
❤ for indians for showing sympathy. Actually it was not about Khan's policies that were also ineffective but people love him because he is against the status quo of corrupt politicians who have been stealing Pakistan's economy and always play dynastic politics that hurts every Pakistani. There is no merit in the parties other than Khan's party when it comes to dynastic politics. India Pakistan and all over countries around the world have their own challenges we should respect each other rather than mocking and leg pulling. Love and peace for India ❤
@Free-23-e3i
@Free-23-e3i День назад
He is not a saint but how he handled COVID was excellent in his 3-4 years you can 1-1.5 year was COVID. Also he opened the cpec corruption which Nawaz Shareef and co did which was leading to inflation. And Abhi Inflation control nhi h logon K pass pasy he Nahi h tou buying Ni h islye import Ni h is wjah sy rupee cap h 275 py 2 years m rupee 150-325sy 275 py qi lekin Abhi bhi logon ko job ph 20000-25000 dye jaty jitna tou aik ghr m ac na Chaly utna bill a Jata h and now the corrupts are together so people can't stand them because of there decisions we are in energy crises etc so people are against army against these corrupts which not end now even 3-4 years old is against army
@Pal3stin3ix_Lov3
@Pal3stin3ix_Lov3 День назад
Well Ranjeevrana G You know brainwashing is definitely something, definitely😢😂😢
@Rajeevrana-d8w
@Rajeevrana-d8w День назад
​​​@@arminius6506 bro Imran khan ka time ka inflation vs abhi ka inflation dekho, current goverment kafi acha sa handle kar pa rahi h inflation. And inflation mai bs petrol nahi baki cheizn bhi aati hain agar overall dekhoge toh current goverment acha kar rahi h
@VincentBard-m2k
@VincentBard-m2k 22 часа назад
Harris Brenda Lopez Amy White Joseph
@fuzzy0001
@fuzzy0001 День назад
Tum youthiyas mulk say bahar beth ker bas mulk ko badnaam aur propaganda karo
@sajeersayed2008
@sajeersayed2008 День назад
Pak army has a country
@Tecnomm133
@Tecnomm133 День назад
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@WAQAS.N-f5v
@WAQAS.N-f5v День назад
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