It’s a breath of fresh air to see your viewpoint on the same old videos or ideas for topics that nobody chooses. The restrain with which you chose not to discuss Adani when everyone was doing it. Thank you, just want to let you know that there are people like me dying to see this sort of content instead of just getting stock tips.
Thank you Himanshu. This note is a big relief for me as not a week goes by without me wondering if I'm doing the right thing embracing education. I'm not against recommendation/tips .. but where one's own money is involved, I wince at the thought of trusting someone without having the tools to verify that someone's thesis. Happy to receiving your endorsement.
I was just doing the same asset allocation decision on Excel for the upcoming FY and opened RU-vid for a breather, and saw this video uploaded. This is some high level magic, Shankar
I have been following you since u were in et money....i appreciate the good work u r doing.. I have a doubt what is the difference between asset allocation which is been performed in et money genius and the momentum mutual funds....it seems both are doing rebalancing every now amd then...and which one should i opt for and if both then how much percentage in each...as my corpus has increased quite significantly....
Thank you for your continued patronage. I am not aware of the updated ETMoney Genius structure, perhaps you can seek answers from them directly. With re: momentum funds, they follow a clear methodology that is available in the Nifty Indices website or else please watch this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xbRiKHchqFg.html
Thank you Suhail for your kind encouragement and endorsement. I too learn quite a bit when making these videos & sometimes I feel ashamed I didn't enquire something in my younger days
I feel most of your contents must find place in education(school/college/graduation) syllabus.. Hat's off to Prof. Shankar and Team Happy Ugadi / Gudi Padwa
Happy Ugadi to you too, Dinakar. And thank you for the kind words of appreciation. Asset allocation is important and should be a part of Investing 101. I've been practicing it for a few years now and it gives real stability to the portfolio.
The best video for retail investors just we thinking about only on returns not on asset allocation. Definitely this video will save hard earn money of so many investors.
Thankyou so much for this video, contents are articulated so well, this really helped me to diversify my funds. May I request you to make video on NRI investment and diversification opportunity in India. Thankyou again
Equity is falling & the same time due to inflation bond market is get beaten….I invest 80% in equity and 20% in bond…so, how to rebalance in such period?
Unfortunately, the dynamic asset allocation strategy based on valuations didn't quite work in the bear-bull-bear cycle of 2020-2023. As per the strategy, one would invest more in (long-term or medium-term) bonds when equity valuations are too high. Equity was high during 2020-21 and peaked in the last quarter of 2021. If one had switched to bonds during this period, they still wouldn't have received positive returns from bonds as interest rates started rising after that. Basically, in the past year or so, neither equity nor long/medium-term bonds, nor gold has given returns to investors. Maybe this cycle was an unusual one and it doesn't happen that often.
Hey Shankar! This is a fantastic video. I was waiting for such a crisp and clear video about asset allocation for a long time. You have shared invaluable insights🤩🚀 And could you please share the excel file for the Risk-based asset allocation backtesting you did for the 5 model portfolios? That will help us try out other combinations. Also, can you make a video on how to leverage Modern portfolio theory to design a portfolio. Thanks again for such deep and insightful content that you create every week. 🎉
This is a great video when I am searching for someone who is expert in Financial planning with Mutual Funds as the major mechanism to invest. This whole understanding of Reducing risk adjusted return using asset allocation and use it with various goals is great concept. Thanks.
Glad you liked it. The high return-low risk concept is similar to what I often say in regards to value investing - higher the return, lower the risk (and vice versa)
Excellent video! I was searching for a video which could quantify how asset allocation helps in optimising returns with historical data. This was the one! Looking forward to more of such useful videos.
Shankar thanks for an excellent video. Could you do a video on taxation aspects of dynamic & tactical asset allocation - especially if one allocates funds to different assets? Any suggestions for short term & long term allication based on current taxation? I do know the simplest way out is to buy an dynamic asset allocation fund something like an ICICI Advantage fund you mention. Keep up the good work! 👍
Thanks for the suggestion. Personally, I don't use taxation as a criteria anymore when doing asset allocation. I've spent many years worrying about tax & taking untimely decisions while asset allocation should be tax-impassionate for better results (from a returns and volatility perspective). But it's very difficult to convince other, including many of my friends. There is the overhanging theme of income tax, where we pay it on income earned and then pay for expenses. In this case, tax is an important criteria as it is being paid on the entire income. However in case of investments, the tax is calculated only on the profits earned and not on the capital invested. If the orientation moves towards that then one would realize that 30%, 15%, 10% on the capital gains doesn't come to much when doing asset allocation and what matters is the process
Great video! But I don't get how the weighted average of 3 returns (Nifty, bonds and gold) can be ever greater than the maximum of all 3. I would expect the returns of a risk-based asset allocation scheme to be always lower than a 100% equity scheme (given equity performs the best for the period in consideration) even though its risk-adjusted returns and volatility might be better. Thoughts?
I think I get it now. The cumulative returns won't be a weighted average of all 3 (for ex. 0.75*EQ+0.1*B+0.15*G). But the returns for all 3 will act in unison each year. For example, if the portfolio is able to protect a downside in early years, it sets it up nicely for compounding as time progresses.
Yes, exactly. The real effect of asset allocation comes not when one puts in weights against every asset but when one rebalances it in a disciplined manner
Didn't understand the calculation. How can asset allocation increase absolute returns? Risk adjusted returns can be improved. But to show asset allocation increased returns to 12% compared to 11% of nifty?
Hi Shankar, another master piece, 🎉 I have a question- what is the best instrument within debt mutual fund for long term debt investment asset allocation ?
Thank you. It's difficult to pinpoint a "best" but personally, I use a mix of short duration (money market or ultra short duration) and target maturity funds for my debt allocation. This gives me predictability and stability
Thank you very much. Correlation is the statistical measure we learnt in school (-1 to +1). There are many articles on the Internet explaining it. Pls try: seekingalpha.com/article/4485221-cross-correlation
@@shankarnath Thank you! Now I remember correlation matrix or cross correlation! Sometimes the basic slips out of the mind when one gets into the complex calculation.
Sir how is us and indian stock market correlated? Shld it be wise to invest 5-10% in us mfs? Can u make a video on this, about the correlation. I have seen us is positive correlatiom of aroun 0.6
Hi Shankar Sir, Apologies if you have already answered this but I wanted your opinion on REIT. For a Retail investor like most of us, does it add any meaningful value to allocate to REITS or are we just better with allocation to Equity, Debt and Gold alone? Thank you!
It's a personal choice plus retail investor can be conservative, income, balanced, growth or aggressive .. so it will depend on one's risk orientation and goal. I haven't built an opinion on it yet
Interesting video 👍 I have a question after watching this video. What is the difference between a multi asset fund and a dynamic asset allocation fund? Which one out of these two have an option to allocate fully in equities in less risky, less volatile and good economic conditions? And when conditions become riskier, whole allocation can be shifted from equities to Gold, Debt and other less risky instruments? Thanks 🙏
Thanks for this video. @1:20 - Haven't you always of the opinion that higher returns come with lower risk, as you have mentioned in various videos and in some interviews?
Most welcome. Yes - when it comes to value investing .. lower the risk, higher the return. I elaborated this with an example in a recent video aswell .. the Intelligent Investor book summary
Hi just a small question ,the motilal passive fof aggresive and conservative is exactly based on this..does it make sense to have that kind of a fund??
You should evaluate it and see if it matches your personal goals. As I said in an earlier video -- the mutual fund scheme is not your goal, it's the other way around i.e. the fund should help you reach your goals.
No, asset allocation is not the fund manager's job as it's not possible for the fund manager to know what assets you have (e.g. you might have EPF holdings, stocks, other mutual funds, land etc.). Asset allocation has to be done by the investor or his/her financial advisor.
Agree. But I am specifically asking in context of profit booking , like in case of flexi cap funds how to know when to pause sip or sell some units or increase the allocation
I generally don't play with GSecs (i.e. buy and sell based on interest rates). Instead, I prefer using target maturity bonds for building my debt portfolio in the tenure is high (7+ years). This way I approximately know the returns I'll make
Hi Shankar, Huge fan of your content. Can you please make a video on the new tax law on the debt mutual funds. Also Is this taxability applicable on all redemptions made from 1st April'23 even though invested earlier or on investments made after 1st April'23 and redeemed there after.?
Thank you! From what I have read, the new law applied to investments made on 1st April 2023 and beyond. The earlier investments will continue to enjoy the previous tax regime. I'm reading some stuff and collating opinions. As you know, I prefer to listen to many sides before coming up with a course of action. I'll write a note tomorrow or day-after.
Hi Shankar, First of all thanks for this amazing video. I have question: Right now, I have all the funds invested in Equity and I am 27 years of age. I started with Equity investing and then I am thinking to move my allocations to different assets other than Equity. What would be a suggested approach to start moving money from equity to these different assets as if I start moving the funds seeing the current market scenario I would book in loss. Please help me to understand how I can achieve a risk adjusted and diversified portfolio when my all funds are in equity. Thanks
Real estate is an integral and important part of one's portfolio / asset allocation strategy. Personally, I haven't invested in real-estate like I do with equities but I'm sure it has its merits.
@@DanKohan Yes, liquidity is an important factor. However, I recently did pick some units in REITs just to test the waters. Fractional ownership is also something I had researched but I parked it as it isn't protected by regulations here
(I really hope you get to see this question before 31 mar) Sir, if you were to buy debt funds with the sole purpose of holding it for >= 3 years for indexation benefits, what would you choose: a liquid/MM debt fund or an SDL index fund with Target maturity of 2026?
@@shankarnath Sir as it is said that liquid or money market funds have generally negligible or low credit risk. Also as SDLs/GoIs have sovereign guarantees hence low credit risk, that's why kept thse two choices, as safety of the invested capital is also a priority apart from the other benefits. It'd be great to have your take on this. Thanks again.
@@_s.i.d_ Perfect. Then you have your answers which is per your comfort (i.e. safety) - and that's the way investing should be done. My opinion should not matter at this stage
Excellent video yet again Shankar. I'm glad that you are also shedding light on asset allocation as many are focussed only on chasing returns and forget about safeguarding them. On a side note, it would be great if you could do a follow up video taking into account the recent changes in taxation of debt funds.
It's means ET money genius diverse our portfolio to different asset class's between equity , gold and debt fund according to market condition Should we invest in ET money genius or small case to avoid these hectic of investing and give it to some one else
Well, it comes down to individual preferences. For instance & am just taking this as an example - observe you used the phrase "hectic of investing", someone else might say "joy of investing". Now these are two different approaches to the same activity. The point you raised on giving it to a fund manager is also a relevant one. So the fund manager will run the scheme per his/her objectives (which will be clearly defined in the scheme objective) but that might not be your objective. Again, it is a matter of framing .. if the investor's objective matches with the fund's goals - then there is more comfort. In my view, it's not a me-or-him choice and investors can always mix and match approaches (and most people do)
Very informative sir.. please put a separate session on asset management - retirement planning for single people in their 50s and couples without children...as i feel it may not be the same as other people with family-children..
Hello Shankar Sir. I was searching for a video on the exact same topic and lo and behold, you uploaded a video today. Thanks a lot 😊 You see, considering the markets are volatile, I was looking up for some resources to minimise my negative returns. I would be glad if you answer a few questions 😅 So, considering my age to be 28. I consider myself to be a aggressive investor. My equity portfolio consists of mutual funds and stocks. Whereas Debt portfolio consists of ppf and nps. Not sure tho if nps is considered a Debt instrument or not. Should I add a Debt mutual fund to my portfolio or continue with equity mutual funds considering my horizon is 20 yrs? If yes, should I choose a mutual fund which invests in bonds or gold? You see, I don't wish to buy bonds and Gold separately. Thanks again for a valuable information 👍
How about putting money directly in the Dynamic Asset Funds rather than doing this hassle manually. What are the pros ane cons of this strategy Can you guide?
Look at it this way. You have 100 rupees of portfolio of which 25 rupees is in real estate and 15 rupees in fixed income (say EPF & PPF). These two instruments are fixed as property you don't sell and EPF/PPF has a lock-in. Now as you are young, you want to up your wealth and yet be balanced about it .. so you feel 60:40 in equity & non-equity is great. If you put the remaining 60 rupees in a Dynamic Asset Allocation fund, the first thing you lose is your asset allocation because the fund manager doesn't know that you have property and fixed income worth 40 rupees in your portfolio. He/she assumes that the only wealth you have to invest is the 60 rupees and because the fund manager too wants to give you a balance .. he/she decides to put 40 rupees in equity & remaining 20 rupees in debt based on current market conditions Effectively in the fund manager's eyes, you are at a 66%:33% ratio .. while in reality you are at a 40%:60%. Consequently, you will lose a lot. Moral -- to the extent possible, be in control of your financial destiny. For this I'm not saying you need to overdo it by investing in stocks yourself but allocation is something that you need to hold at heart.
