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How Bad Are "Negative" Pokémon Abilities ACTUALLY 

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@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
Note: I’m not ranking the abilities strictly from best to worst. I’m ranking them more based on how their drawbacks affect them. So abilities like Prankster make otherwise useless mons good, they still have some risk/counterplay to them. So I have some abilities like Lightning Rod “above” them for being really good and having less notable risk/counterplay. Hope you understand what I mean there buds😂.
@johnnyfields1392
@johnnyfields1392 3 месяца назад
Even if ranked on usefulness, Lightning Rod>Prankster
@ILiekFishes
@ILiekFishes 3 месяца назад
​@@johnnyfields1392 definitely not in vgc. prankster thunderous got twave nerfed, when has lightning rod been half that problematic?
@grimmylocked
@grimmylocked 3 месяца назад
​@@johnnyfields1392nah. Prankster is a meta-defining ability. More than 3/4 of all VGC teams have a prankster mon.
@johnnyfields1392
@johnnyfields1392 3 месяца назад
Lighting Rod: You gain an immunity Prankster: Your opponent gains an immunity Gaining an immunity>Opponent gaining an immunity
@grimmylocked
@grimmylocked 3 месяца назад
@@johnnyfields1392 it has less drawbacks but is less useful. The difference is while Prankster is a proactive ability, lightning rod is a reactive one. Prankster is always useful because the ability to set tailwind/screens/thunder wave without taking damage is such a big advantage in VGC. Lightning rod's usefulness depends on your opponent using powerful electric type moves at a specific time. It can be really strong, but it is very circumstantial.
@kaulianpower
@kaulianpower 3 месяца назад
Wimp out turning into emergency exit which does exactly the same but treats the pokemon as an smart strategist rather than a coward is so funny
@gren1963
@gren1963 3 месяца назад
Usopp into sogeking
@Technotoadnotafrog
@Technotoadnotafrog 3 месяца назад
"I'm not running away! It's a tactical retreat!" ~Golisopod, probably
@falsnamae3511
@falsnamae3511 3 месяца назад
It'd be nice if it got a balance once-over. Keep Wimp Out as it stands, but let Emergency Exit trigger before damage is taken, rather than after, to reflect "strategy". Then again, that might make Golisopod an Ubers-tier pivot... Hmm...
@Zetact_
@Zetact_ 3 месяца назад
@@falsnamae3511 What about any damage that would reduce it to 50% or lower would immediately stop at 50% and then trigger the exit? I.e. if Golisopod is at max HP and takes an attack that would one-shot it, it instead drops to 50% and swaps out. In certain scenarios it could give you essentially a free hit, like if you're at 51% then the next damage you take is just a free mulligan.
@memenazi7078
@memenazi7078 3 месяца назад
He’s like Joseph Joestar
@deathpigeon2
@deathpigeon2 3 месяца назад
Slow Start would be so much more workable if it did not reset on switch out. If you needed it to be on the field for five turns, not necessarily consecutively, then Slow Start wears off and Regigigas doesn't need to deal with it for the rest of the match.
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 2 месяца назад
Agreed. Remember when he couldn't even know Protect and just had to go with Substitute or something?
@TwiliPaladin
@TwiliPaladin Месяц назад
Keep it to five consecutive turns, but once it's worn off, let it be switched back in and out without consequence.
@AeonQuasar
@AeonQuasar 10 дней назад
Weezing and Regigigas is such a strong combo.
@Oneiroclast
@Oneiroclast 3 месяца назад
Truant should have allowed you to use "lazy" moves on turns it takes effect. Yawn, Slack Off, Rest, maybe a few others that fit. Then it would balance out the stats without being completely unviable.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
Haha I had the same idea in one of my first videos on this channel. Allow those moves and I had others like Snore and Amnesia. Would be a great buff
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 3 месяца назад
They should give Slaking Comatose
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 3 месяца назад
Slaking is basically a Legendary when it comes to stats. Truant is there for a reason, or else, it'd be completely broken. And in gen 3, you actually could switch its ability with something like an Alakazam, giving you a god-mode Slaking. Same thing with Slow Start as Regigigas is too broken without it.
@Oneiroclast
@Oneiroclast 3 месяца назад
@@MarvinPowell1 That is exactly why the proposed change maintains Truant being a drawback. It absolutely does need a hindering ability, but that hindering ability should bring it down from overpowered to balanced, not all the way down to unusable.
@if-me-not-me
@if-me-not-me 3 месяца назад
​@@MarvinPowell1 Legendary is supposed to have legendary stats, having slow start is absolutely not fair.
@attilaszanto2275
@attilaszanto2275 3 месяца назад
Metagross is so heavy, that Light Metal (its Hidden Ability, don't use it) doesn't change anything.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
I wonder if Light Metal + Float Stone would change anything though?
@enoyna1001
@enoyna1001 3 месяца назад
​@@MattBudYTAccording to damage calc.pokemonshowdown, Float Stone would help
@subtodicerat8305
@subtodicerat8305 3 месяца назад
You should have told that to 12 year old me using an ability patch
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 3 месяца назад
I’d change Light Metal so that it increases Speed by 10%, but lowers Defense by 10%. And Heavy Metal has the inverse.
@aroramccracken2429
@aroramccracken2429 3 месяца назад
@@MattBudYTyes it would. But at that point just use another ability and a good item
@attilaszanto2275
@attilaszanto2275 3 месяца назад
I don't like how Anger Shell activates for every stat one by one.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
Kind of obnoxious ain’t it?
@VegaPhil
@VegaPhil 3 месяца назад
I think the only reason they've done that is to make it seem more impressive and flashy to keep seeing each stat go up but it's pretty annoying and slow in reality
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 3 месяца назад
I’d make it an auto Shell Smash.
@RiverWilliamson
@RiverWilliamson 3 месяца назад
Right? Respect our time, Pokemon
@PsiPaula4
@PsiPaula4 3 месяца назад
@@VegaPhil No, Game Freak has stated that they design the stat changes that way to make it "easier to understand".
@ahoythere4
@ahoythere4 3 месяца назад
Regigigas: "Legends Arceus doesn't have abilities, that means I'll finally be usable, right?" Gamefreak: "..." Regigigas: "...right?"
@Digitalsolver591
@Digitalsolver591 3 месяца назад
😊a
@EmperorATsamaku
@EmperorATsamaku 2 месяца назад
@Lavender-402 I agree. It is Legendary Pokemon after all, so it is broken for normal play isn't an issue and with the high attack stat, high bulk, and normal typing, it can feel a niche in Ubers and certain VGC meta in a unique way.
@tdarkhorse4
@tdarkhorse4 Месяц назад
buddy we gave you a good couple of years' worth of exclusively vgc viability with neutralizing gas.
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed Месяц назад
Arceus's Multitype matching more what was seen in its movie, sure was something. Regigigas remaining groggy is quite a laught. Very much semented that being an inate part of Regigigas, bar Neutralizing Gas. I wonder if they would have keept Truant if they had decided to let Slaking in.
@damienthenovice
@damienthenovice 3 месяца назад
27:13 Imagine hating a Pokémon so much, that you give it its shitty Signature Ability in a game with *NO ABILITIES* ?
@Doomview
@Doomview 3 месяца назад
They did him dirty with that one
@Weldedhodag
@Weldedhodag 3 месяца назад
pokemon devs, pro-wasting your time for all time
@EmperorATsamaku
@EmperorATsamaku 2 месяца назад
It is ridiculous that Regigigas is stuck with a shit ability. It is a Legendary Pokemon after all.
@molassesman4066
@molassesman4066 2 месяца назад
​@@EmperorATsamaku a legendary thats ability is so bad its stats are lower than arcanine, the accidental legendary, worse than a accident its regigigas
@EmperorATsamaku
@EmperorATsamaku 2 месяца назад
@@molassesman4066 Because it is legendary, having such a hindering ability is unnecessary and ridiculous.
@kirbykraftgames
@kirbykraftgames 3 месяца назад
Doubles Regigigas and Galar Weezing is a level of terror I love to inflict on occasions in local pvp meetups, just because people forget Neutralizing Gas exists because no one really uses Weezing
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 3 месяца назад
except in tournaments where regigigias + weezing actually did pretty well.
@prince_nocturne
@prince_nocturne 2 дня назад
I saw someone switch it into a predicted worry seed and sweep. Was hilarious. Also great against a Trace user. Y'know, Trace should have been on this list, too. You could nab a super useful ability... or something like Slow Start!
@borby4584
@borby4584 3 месяца назад
Normalize has one niche use: It turns Skitty into an absolute GOD in Mystery Dungeon. Still not good in the main series games, but at least it can have one place where it's great
@DBArtsCreators
@DBArtsCreators 2 месяца назад
Could see a baton pass at least giving a Delcatty the extra boost needed to make Normalize useful; especially if something like Odor Sleuth is used when a ghost shows up.
@borby4584
@borby4584 2 месяца назад
@@DBArtsCreators in mystery dungeon or?
@DBArtsCreators
@DBArtsCreators 2 месяца назад
@@borby4584 main series
@EmperorATsamaku
@EmperorATsamaku 2 месяца назад
Normalize would be great on a ghost-type Pokemon with skill swap and a trapping move.
@borby4584
@borby4584 2 месяца назад
@@EmperorATsamaku in Almost Any Ability, this is a thing. The best user is Gengar (though if Mega Gengar wasn’t already ban worthy in every OU, this would’ve absolutely gotten it kicked.)
@pikmints
@pikmints 3 месяца назад
I'll never forget the time that I cheesed one of my friends by using Truant Entrainment Durant against them. Swapped into a setup mon and got +6 Atk and Spd by using Protect every other turn, proceeding to go 6-0. Truant has such a strong downside that it actually has a usecase that it wouldn't have if it were better.
@ilexdiapason
@ilexdiapason 2 месяца назад
i looked this up because i didn't know what entrainment was and bulbapedia says entrainment will fail if you have truant
@thefreshestmango1106
@thefreshestmango1106 Месяц назад
​@@ilexdiapasonIt fails if the TARGET of Entrainment has Truant. So the cheese strat still works
@yonkodude
@yonkodude 3 месяца назад
i feel like gorilla tactics is rlly under ranked for how good of an ability it is. the immediate damage boost that can be even further accentuated by band or made more difficult to revenge kill with scarf makes it rlly good. it patches the weakness of all scarfers which is the reduction in power while having no extra downsides.
@RaidFiftyOne
@RaidFiftyOne 3 месяца назад
What I hate about slow start is the fact that his signature move... does more damage at the beginning of the battle
@trouttylouty783
@trouttylouty783 3 месяца назад
Nah, varoom learns it lmao
@RaidFiftyOne
@RaidFiftyOne 3 месяца назад
@@trouttylouty783 I looked at his move pool and coulden't find it. But if he does have it he can also have slow start
@mypaldracunyan1223
@mypaldracunyan1223 3 месяца назад
​@@trouttylouty783 Varoom does not learn Crush Grip. It's a signature move for a reason
@thediabolicalraisin8953
@thediabolicalraisin8953 2 месяца назад
​@@mypaldracunyan1223 I think he ment the ability. And even that turns into Filter, a very good ability, upon evolution.
@AdminAbuse
@AdminAbuse Месяц назад
@@trouttylouty783 You're lost
@traiges414
@traiges414 3 месяца назад
Our favorite ancient golem Sadigigas will never not be included when it comes to negative Abilites in Pokemon. Good that he isnt able to use the internet (yet)
@kaled8839
@kaled8839 3 месяца назад
in 5 turns he will
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 3 месяца назад
He even gets Slow Start in a game without abilities. Isn’t that swell?
@UnchainedPandoran
@UnchainedPandoran 3 месяца назад
He’d be running on AOL.
@Ze_Carrot
@Ze_Carrot 3 месяца назад
Bro i read acient golem and thought u just fucked up writiing sandy shocks alot
@Ze_Carrot
@Ze_Carrot 3 месяца назад
Bro i read acient golem and thought u just fucked up writiing sandy shocks alot
@devinnall2284
@devinnall2284 3 месяца назад
Stall would be good on a bulky pokemon with lots of pivot moves to always give you switching advantage
@mihneaiordan1813
@mihneaiordan1813 3 месяца назад
Reminds ya of a certain fire cat, eh?
@frankchen4229
@frankchen4229 3 месяца назад
@@mihneaiordan1813 hmm.... does said fire cat also happen to abuse a move that rhymes with "sharting snot"?
@kiwi40238
@kiwi40238 3 месяца назад
​@@frankchen4229i wonder if said cat is intimidating
@SarcasticBeingYes
@SarcasticBeingYes 3 месяца назад
​@@kiwi40238i also wonder if it knocks off your candy.
@Gamertag1001
@Gamertag1001 3 месяца назад
@SarcasticBeingYes i also wonder if that certain cat is always being buffed every generation
@anishkulkarni5901
@anishkulkarni5901 3 месяца назад
As a VGC player, my fuckin jaw dropped seeing you rank prankster as "generally worth it"
@vibe6223
@vibe6223 2 месяца назад
especially considering that many of the common moves you'd use on a prankster mon in vgc like tailwind or screens don't even need to target a mon so the dark type drawback might not even come into play 😭
@yalebass
@yalebass 2 месяца назад
was gonna comment that prankster is one of the best abilities period.
@AdminAbuse
@AdminAbuse Месяц назад
Some things he says are head scratchers
@machinegunlament
@machinegunlament Месяц назад
Bro could be talking about singles
@awokensleeper
@awokensleeper 6 дней назад
Smogon is a very different game lol
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 3 месяца назад
The other advantage of sheer force is that it also removes NEGATIVE secondary effects, which mostly includes stat drops or self-damage, basically making it a free buff. You can also pair this with life orb, which secondary effect is also negated, while still keeping the damage boost.
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed Месяц назад
Did get me try to see why Earthquake wasn't used with Sheer Force Nidoking, had always though its spread was an effect, that it would become single target. Was glad to get a confirmation that it wasn't, when the Life Orb recoil hit.
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 4 дня назад
@@KimFareseedthe nidos use special sheer force because their ST movepool is just…atrocious.
@adamcartrette4037
@adamcartrette4037 3 месяца назад
Klutz should be buffed to also be like Unaware regarding the opponent's held item. No extra damage if the opponent Pokemon holds a damage boosting item like Life Orb. Unaffected by an item that would affect a Klutz Pokemon like Destiny Knot. No damage from Rocky Helmet.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
That would be cool. A pseudo embargo/magic room whike active would be nice. Especially in doubles.
@aroramccracken2429
@aroramccracken2429 3 месяца назад
Honestly I would move prankster up. Most of the Pokémon with prankster are only good because of priority on status moves. It is a clear choice between no priority and hitting dark types or priority and being immune to dark types.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
It’s a great ability for sure. The ranking is based on how the negatives affect it. So abilities like Storm Drain, where the negatives aren’t as bad and it’s still really good, rank higher in this particular list
@TwiliPaladin
@TwiliPaladin Месяц назад
​@@MattBudYTEven still, the downside is extremely situational.
@FrostFire425
@FrostFire425 19 часов назад
​@@MattBudYTMany prankster-boosted moves wouldn't even trigger Dark-type's immunity since they don't target a specific mon (tailwind...)
@Paytonio
@Paytonio 3 месяца назад
Rivalry was used sometimes on haxorus in VGC to deal more damage to the genies in gen 5
@gustavof2241
@gustavof2241 3 месяца назад
Normalize Delcatty and levitate Haunter were used by Wolfe Glick to pretty much make haunter unbeatable on a tournament as well! Quite creative use of the ability
@plazmurr
@plazmurr 3 месяца назад
I think Curious Medicine could be good if it worked exactly like Haze, you could stop your opponents for setting up and would actually be useful in singles. Anger Shell should be identical to Shell Smash too
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
That’s how I thought it was going to work when I first saw it. Would have been a great setup counter/deterrent.
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 3 месяца назад
That’s amazing. I’d also make an ability known as Black Smoke, which is an auto Haze upon switching in.
@AvaluggEnjoyer420
@AvaluggEnjoyer420 3 месяца назад
The positives of Avalugg is that it has zero negative abilities unlike Great Tusk.
@Doomview
@Doomview 3 месяца назад
But avalugg is a joke
@Duothimir
@Duothimir 3 месяца назад
​@@DoomviewThe positive of Avalugg is that it can't get any worse.
@pander3975
@pander3975 3 месяца назад
​@@DuothimirI thought the same and then they gave us the hisuian form
@Duothimir
@Duothimir 3 месяца назад
@@pander3975 It can't get any worse now
@molassesman4066
@molassesman4066 2 месяца назад
Avalugg is just onyx but harder to get
@Imamotherfreakingavocado
@Imamotherfreakingavocado 3 месяца назад
I remember playing Dynamax Adventures with my girlfriend one time, and she had a Manetric with lightning rod and it was the single most annoying thing ever because the npcs kept using electric moves
@chainlinkwarden
@chainlinkwarden 3 месяца назад
Mega Lopunny with Klutz as its initial ability. Klutz didn't affect mega stones so you could use entrainment to give an opponent Klutz and take away both its ability and item, then go into mega lopunny and possibily crippled the opponents mon.
@generalsynnacle23
@generalsynnacle23 3 месяца назад
But it can't be repeated on another after Mega Evolving, and you sacrifice a move slot + valuable turn for a gimmicky ability removal when you risk dying turn 1 from Lopunny's mid stats.
@chainlinkwarden
@chainlinkwarden 3 месяца назад
@@generalsynnacle23 I mean Lopunny usually only needed 2 or 3 moves anyway. The only locked in moves are Return and High Jump Kick. The rest could be what you want and Lopunny has decent defenses. 105 speed also means hitting something like Azumarill, Excadrill, Clefable, Gliscor, Toxapex, or Nidoking can make the pokemon almost unusable. Glicsor and Toxapex especially hate it because Gliscor loses poison heal so now Gliscor is slowly dying, and Toxapex loses Regenerator AND leftovers. Azumarill won't OHKO Lopunny unless its banded with Aqua Jet so you can cripple Azumarill and bounce away by taking away its Normalium Z and Huge Power. Excadrill loses Sand Force so he can't hit that hard. Clefable loses walling power without magic guard. Nidoking loses sheer force and Life orb and can't do much of anything at that point.
@tomrejor4842
@tomrejor4842 3 месяца назад
Tbh Mega Lopunny is the type of mon to be able to do way more damage than the value gain by negating one pokemon's ability and item. It's a nice gimmick though.
@KetsubanZero
@KetsubanZero 3 месяца назад
Yes but unlike knock off, you only get rid of the opponent's item until it switches out, however klutz is the only way to trick an assault vest to your opponent
@bingewatcher4678
@bingewatcher4678 3 месяца назад
I like Dry Skin because I like to make rain based teams..
@DavidStowers-o7k
@DavidStowers-o7k 2 месяца назад
In HG/SS, I always get a Paras from Ilex Forest with Dry Skin. I really love it if my starter is Cyndaquil and using it on his starter after beating Team Rocket at the Slowpoke Well.
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 2 месяца назад
Regigigas may be initially extremely lacklustre, but Ninjask is his best friend if you ask me. A perfect recepient that just needs to keep the heat off for a few turns before he grows even more powerful than normal. Unfortunately it would still be difficult to get that to work.
@Kardfogu
@Kardfogu 3 месяца назад
In PokeMMO I'm running around with a Klutz Lopunny unironically, because Klutz-Switcheroo Assault Vest is the nightmare of any pokemon that would try to heal or status your mons...
@MeargleSchmeargle
@MeargleSchmeargle 3 месяца назад
The fun part of slow start is when a lot of people paired it with a neutralizing gas mon like Weezing and then just 1-shot everyone with Regigigas.
@AceAviations2
@AceAviations2 3 месяца назад
No Guard is more of a benefit to the user than the opponent, the reason being is that you build your No Guard mon around having No Guard, so you can throw as many low accuracy moves on it as you like. Your opponent doesn't have that luxury and will only benefit from it situationally, as opposed to you who will ALWAYS benefit from it. Sure it can bite you in the butt every now and then, but that's not going to happen 100% of the time. Also it's good on Mega Pidgeot for Heat Wave, yes it has 95% accuracy, but if it's not 100% accurate it might as well be 50% accurate when you need it to land. Also in STABmons, an OM on Showdown! where Pokemon can use almost any moves of their types (even pre-evolutions), Simple made Bibarel into a monster. While in more recent versions of the meta Shell Smash is only allowed on things that normally get it (understandably as Mega Altaria could use it AND Boomburst on top of Arceus knows who else), however that wasn't always the case. Simple Shell Smash Bibarel with Aqua Jet and Extreme Speed, need I say more? Yes a lot of thing could abuse Shell Smash due to it being a Normal type move, but few were as terrifying as a Bibarel after it gets a Shell Smash up.
@magnuspkmn
@magnuspkmn 3 месяца назад
Let's go early gang!! I gotta say I love Comatose for enabling Choice Band + Last Resort on Komala. Sleep Talk is guaranteed to pull it and you get 16 shots instead of 8.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
Thanks for stopping by bro❤️
@justas423
@justas423 3 месяца назад
I feel like a lot of these abilities are judged solely based on the mons who wield them (namely Screen Cleaner).
@falsnamae3511
@falsnamae3511 3 месяца назад
Agreed. Screen Cleaner would be great on any team that doesn't run screens. It isn't S-tier, but Screens are common enough that it should be considered on par with "Cloud Nine" style abilities, things that neutralize a very common but not guaranteed battle element.
@shadowocelot-56_95
@shadowocelot-56_95 3 месяца назад
Although unofficial, Slacking in Elite Redux can get stall as its ability instead of Truant, so it no longer has to attack every other turn
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
It’s like pick your poison eh? Stall is probably better because you can just run full bulk with Slack Off
@shadowocelot-56_95
@shadowocelot-56_95 3 месяца назад
@@MattBudYT than again, it does get a mega in the game too, and even if you don''t mega evolve it, its innate abilities help it greatly
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 3 месяца назад
@@shadowocelot-56_95That’s just OP. Slaking has excellent stats, pure Normal is a great type, and it has an excellent movepool. It’s just held back by its horrendous ability.
@Lyn0224_
@Lyn0224_ 3 месяца назад
Pure normal is anything but great lol. Some good pure normal mons are good despite being pure normal not because of it
@weibot2.0
@weibot2.0 3 месяца назад
@@Lyn0224_ Pure normal is decent offensively because of the pure power/options when it comes to normal moves, and only 3 types resisting/being immune. I've seen banded and or STAB normal moves 2HKOing resists. I agree that it's bad defensively due to one immunity only, but only one weakness means bulky mons can tank hits anyday. It's really a type dependent on the mon. Btw just discussing, not trying to argue(happens way too often)
@ilexdiapason
@ilexdiapason 2 месяца назад
remember everyone, the reason durant gets truant is because hidden abilities represent a pokemon's dreams, and durant is a false ant that dreams of being a true ant
@Blazertronics523
@Blazertronics523 2 месяца назад
Slow Start should of given Regigigas a sharp defense and special defense buff that would stay on Regigigas even after Slow Start is finished. They can also buff it to 4 turns instead of 5.
@Double-Negative
@Double-Negative 3 месяца назад
There are a couple form-change related abilities that have (situational) negative effects, but are usually positive. Shields down: While above half health, you're immune to status, and minior swaps its attack and defensive stats and gains +60 base speed when it drops below half health. The usual set with this is shell smash white herb, and when you get put under half, you can start spamming acrobatics. downside: you can't be skill swapped, and when you change forms, you have reduced defense whether you want it or not. Stance change is usually great, but using king's shield leaves you vulnerable to status, and if you get taunted or want to use a status move after attacking, you're left in your vulnerable sword form. zen mode is similar because it switches your attacking stats, meaning you kind of have to run a mixed set, and it also lowers your speed
@TheBestEver1998
@TheBestEver1998 2 месяца назад
Downside of Shields Down is also being passive at first
@Nako3
@Nako3 3 месяца назад
Klutz on Lopunny actually works. You can switcheroo an Assault Vest and give it to someone who doesnt want it like a Ferrothorn or Skarmory.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 3 месяца назад
They should really buff slow start so the turn couter doesn't reset if swapped out. This would help to play around the ability a little better.
@TheTolnoc
@TheTolnoc 2 месяца назад
Fun Fact: Slow Start can be removed by Worry Seed and Skill Swap So if you predict one of those moves coming, you can give your Regigigas a turbo charge early.
@molassesman4066
@molassesman4066 2 месяца назад
And bring it to the stats of a normal legendary? Nowadays its a direct downgrade to crowned sword zacian and nearly udentical to itemless zacian stat wise lol
@cabrondemente1
@cabrondemente1 2 месяца назад
​@@molassesman4066 not to mention that Normal is a bad type by Legendary standards.
@molassesman4066
@molassesman4066 2 месяца назад
@@cabrondemente1 especially when compaired to fairy AND steel
@vibe6223
@vibe6223 2 месяца назад
@@molassesman4066 It does have a niche of not being a "restricted legendary" so in formats like VGC you could run it alongside something like calyrex and have 2 pokemon with "legendary stats".
@number1-willstetsonsimp
@number1-willstetsonsimp 7 дней назад
the thing with contrary is your basically screwed if your opponent has the move swagger
@larsweise7866
@larsweise7866 3 месяца назад
Imagine Bibarel getting Tidy Up. Together with the Simple Ability and Clear Amulet it would be absolutely insane. I would love to see the outcome competitively. 😂❤
@falxblade1352
@falxblade1352 2 месяца назад
It ripped stabmons apart when it got it
@MABfan11
@MABfan11 3 месяца назад
Emergency Exit should be paired with moves like First Impression that does lots of damage the first time they're used after coming out
@bombs2848
@bombs2848 3 месяца назад
Toedscruel's ability is probably a good thing Because imagine having to deal with a base 100 speed spore user
@alejandro_rodriguez_99
@alejandro_rodriguez_99 2 месяца назад
Add a choice scarf and a weezing
@Srelathon
@Srelathon 4 дня назад
One thing to consider is that some of these abilities see use purely to be Skill Swapped onto an opponent's Pokemon. If you can force them to have a terrible ability, and maybe even nab a good ability in the process, then sometimes taking those abilities can actually be well worth it.
@littlemrdoom5997
@littlemrdoom5997 5 дней назад
Rivalry haxorus was actually used to counter the forces of nature in gen 5 vgc. It was such a staple that it was more optimal to run female genders on your pokemon that could be female
@thethunderchieftain5464
@thethunderchieftain5464 2 месяца назад
You don't have to worry about Slow Start if you remove it from Regigigas altogether. You can always have an ally mon Skills Swap Slow Start form Regigigas to an enemy mon,or use contact movies with Cofagrigus or Runerigus to switch Regi's ability to Mummy/Wandering Spirit.
@HomunculusFather
@HomunculusFather 2 месяца назад
If Slow Start didn't reset when switching, and after 5 additional turns after it stops halving Attack and Speed, it will now doubles them, then that would make it very useful. Pair it with a held item that only works for Regigigas that makes it count as having been out for 1 more turn than it actually has been per unique Regi (other than Regigigas) you have on your team, and it would be tremendous. PS: That last part has to be a held item and not a part of the Slow Start ability since Varoom has Slow Start as its hidden ability, and it wouldn't make sense for it to be enhanced by the Regis.
@zdelrod829
@zdelrod829 2 месяца назад
Klutz nullifying the held item, can lead to shenigans with Lopunny giving the opponent a Toxic orb or a choice item with Switcheroo.
@SACREDSCIZOR9116
@SACREDSCIZOR9116 3 месяца назад
How good is the fsg title actually
@thefirespecialist9007
@thefirespecialist9007 3 месяца назад
Your comment reminds me of False Swipe Gaming's Title's.
@AttmozGlaishur
@AttmozGlaishur 3 месяца назад
The title theorem
@animepsyclone
@animepsyclone 2 месяца назад
Contrary has a niche use with stat boosting moves, actually. Shuckle gets both Contrary and Shell Smash and is very much intended to be a defensive pokemon. If you use Shell Smash on a Contrary Shuckle, the defensive stats are raised at the cost of your offensive stats that don’t matter much to you, so it’s actually an interesting option if you don’t use it as a hazards mon with sticky web and rocks.
@yeetuszilla1663
@yeetuszilla1663 Месяц назад
Solution to slow start if game freak hates regigigas too much: during the turns it's startign up, it heals 1/4 max HP each turn and both defense stats are doubled
@PlaguedByEarth
@PlaguedByEarth 2 месяца назад
Durant's Truant deserves a mention in that it can also learn Entrainment. Generally not worth it, but it can be a fun strat to build around.
@vincentsissom4180
@vincentsissom4180 3 месяца назад
In defense of Defeatist, and as an interesting fun fact, Archeops is the Pokemon that, not counting Legendaries, Mythicals, Pseudo-Legendaries, Ultra Beasts, and Paradox Pokemon, with the highest BST at 567, with the next highest being Pokemon like Arcanine with 555. Still one of the worse abilities, but makes it more interesting.
@MetalKing1417
@MetalKing1417 3 месяца назад
Stall would be much more interesting on a pokemon actually capable of making use of it- Sableye lacks the stats to use those attacks or the attacks that can benefit from it like revenge or metal burst.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
Agreed, I still think just having a low speed stat accomplishes the same thing most of the time. So to have that as your ability usually just makes you worse off
@travisowens8905
@travisowens8905 3 месяца назад
even with stall most moves that work like revenge and counter have negative priority making stall useless for most of the moves. would be decent on a wobbafet like mon with high hp and ok defenses to use moves like metal burst and comeuppance.
@weibot2.0
@weibot2.0 3 месяца назад
@@travisowens8905 at that point might as well just do a full wob and use counter/mc, since mixed attackers are rarer. Main use would be pivoting and aforementioned no negative prio moves
@travisowens8905
@travisowens8905 3 месяца назад
@@weibot2.0 metal burst and the like work as long as they attack regardless of physical or special attack. you do bring a good point of it being a good pivot but stall would only be relevant if it’s a fast bulky mon which is a waste of bst point or a slow mon in trick room. these best pivots have regenerate anyway.
@weibot2.0
@weibot2.0 3 месяца назад
@@travisowens8905 I understand that, and that they aren’t minus priority, I was just talking about how you most likely know what attack your opponent is going to use, so most of the time Counter and MC are better for those purposes. So yeah another potential use gone lol
@clokie6671
@clokie6671 3 месяца назад
I got surprised by your subscriber count, i thought it would be a lot higher. Really nice video.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
Appreciate that❤️ thanks for watching
@stevenreckling203
@stevenreckling203 3 месяца назад
One nice thing about bruxish is that dazzling makes it that prankster pokemon can't use status moves while it's on the field.
@SeanWilsonloa
@SeanWilsonloa 3 месяца назад
Truant and Durant have a nice combo with the move entrainment. Giving the opponent truant.
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 3 месяца назад
Great; Well Worth Any Negatives: Comatose, Contrary, Storm Drain, Lightning Rod, the Ruin abilities, Mold Breaker. Generally Worth It: Gorilla Tactics, Fluffy, Moody, Dry Skin, Simple, Unaware, No Guard, Prankster, Neutralizing Gas, Soundproof, Weak Armor, Anger Shell Telepathy. Even Risk/Reward: Solar Power, Hustle, Perish Body. Nothing Much: Screen Cleaner, Rivalry, Light Metal, Heavy Metal. Generally Negative: Curious Medicine, Mycelium Might, Normalize, Klutz. Ruins Viability: Emergency Exit, Wimp Out, Defeatist, Stall, Truant, Slow Start.
@jarrodnisly3333
@jarrodnisly3333 3 месяца назад
The only reason I can even think of using Stall is just to make Assurance do extra damage in a double battle, and that's literally it
@Jlaps941
@Jlaps941 3 месяца назад
It also lets payback always deal double damage, but again the trade off isn’t worth always going last
@SSNNPBCC
@SSNNPBCC 3 месяца назад
Slow start should double your attack & speed after 10 turns of staying out just to compensate.
@evilded2
@evilded2 2 месяца назад
How is a mon gonna last 10 turns?
@sheeplol2161
@sheeplol2161 3 месяца назад
i think you overestimate how bad klutz is. its like contrary where you keep the ability in mind when building. in addition, if you do wanna use items on thoose pokemon, every user has an alternative ability that you can use instead.
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
I see what you’re saying. But I’m not sure being able to use a different ability is the strongest argument for Klutz being better
@sheeplol2161
@sheeplol2161 3 месяца назад
@@MattBudYT fair enough
@onetallpheeesh
@onetallpheeesh 3 месяца назад
Klutz is only good situationally if you are trying to swap your ability to an opponent. But at that point, just use Knock Off lol
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 3 месяца назад
I’d buff Klutz so that contact moves have a 30% chance to knock the opponent’s item off.
@sheeplol2161
@sheeplol2161 3 месяца назад
@@onetallpheeesh knock off only removes their item, klutz+switcheroo gives them a detrimental item in addition to removing their item
@dmann5938
@dmann5938 3 месяца назад
Gorilla Tactics is a great ability imo. I won many battles with G-Darmanitan and I partner it up with Kingdra sometimes with amazing results
@MattBudYT
@MattBudYT 3 месяца назад
Super strong ability. Only downside really being you are a one trick pony. But what a great trick it is.
@LegoKirbo
@LegoKirbo Месяц назад
My favorite ability with a drawback? Triage. It gives +3 priority to all healing moves, including draining kiss and giga drain. The drawback is conveyed in four words: farigiraf and psychic terrain. Basically, you outspeed almost everything when attacking, including fake out, but are deathly allergic to anything that prevents priority.
@KimFareseed
@KimFareseed Месяц назад
26:53 Mold Breaker, when your Pokémon just says, screw the ability rules.
@TwiliPaladin
@TwiliPaladin Месяц назад
8:49 Thank goodness you did. I was literally in the process of typing that 20 second earlier.
@RiverWilliamson
@RiverWilliamson 3 месяца назад
I'm still salty about Light and Heavy Metal and Duraludon. It could maybe be a cool ability, but it has a G-max form and the generation's gimmick ignores it
@ZionSairin
@ZionSairin 3 месяца назад
I used Klutz trick toxic orb Golurk to cripple a bulky pokemon... Was pretty fun.
@korhol2065
@korhol2065 2 месяца назад
I feel like some abilities could fall under “just give it to team rocket because you are not making this work”
@skiffy8121
@skiffy8121 3 месяца назад
nuh uh, a 100% accurate move with hustle is 50%, because if its not 100 its 50
@rulesOfChaos_
@rulesOfChaos_ Месяц назад
Contrary has the added benefit that, as far as I'm aware, it's the only way to get an evasion boost in normal smogon formats. If for example someone uses defog against a Pokémon with contrary which would drop the evasion by a stage, contrary increases it instead
@Kimosabes2hot
@Kimosabes2hot 2 месяца назад
If Emergency Exit worked like it did in the anime, where if the Pokemon were to faint in 1 hit, they switch to the last Pokémon on your team, that would somehow be crazily viable. Imagine getting slammed by a Shadowball or something, and Emergency Exit activates and swaps in Blissey or something.
@899kful
@899kful 3 месяца назад
Always appreciative of your uploads
@harleyhuskey
@harleyhuskey 2 месяца назад
I said to a friend that slaking had a new hidden ability, they initially thought I was being genuine until I told them it was slow start, lol.
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 3 месяца назад
Technically going last has 1 key use: being able to use "switching" moves last to ensure the mon you switched in basically gets in without being attacked by the opponent.
@bottomtext251
@bottomtext251 Месяц назад
24:20 Emergency Exit is surprisingly good in Nuzelockes such as Run and Bun (you can use it to plan a free switch as you know the enemies team and how much damage they can do)
@kevinkevin9525
@kevinkevin9525 2 месяца назад
One of the best uses of Normalize was a Weedle Twineedle team. They made a Normalize Delcatty that could use Assist and pull V-Create. 210 STAB Normal type move, even on a Delcatty, can one shot most things.
@nazeersadek6705
@nazeersadek6705 3 месяца назад
Great video bud my favorite ability that has a negative effect is sheer force
@indominusrex2859
@indominusrex2859 3 месяца назад
I never knew that no gaurd also made theopponents never miss
@Nightfang1001
@Nightfang1001 Месяц назад
Was using a Weak Armor Skarmory on Showdown for some reason, opponent spends like 2 minitues insulting me for "ruining" a good wall. I typed "for the lolz" after they finished and they forfeited.
@sshadowzlmao
@sshadowzlmao 3 месяца назад
in gen 8 ubers, you can use cottonee with sticky webs and then a move that lowers speed to switch into entrainment durant with the item that switches u out when hit. then you go into dugtrio with setup moves and protect and then you sweep As you mentioned with rivalry, there are some mons forced to be certain types. in gen 5? the genies are male so haxorus ran female. in gen 9 enamorus is female so everything runs female. you can run male
@dislexyc
@dislexyc 3 месяца назад
You got the genders mixed Haxorus runs the same gender to deal 25% extra
@BWoodRap
@BWoodRap 3 месяца назад
Y'know I don't understand why Wimp Out and Emergency Exit both exist. They do the exact same thing. There was no need to create two abilities.
@frankchen4229
@frankchen4229 3 месяца назад
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@ultimatedbz2
@ultimatedbz2 20 дней назад
I had an assault vest golisopod that was able to make pretty good use of it's ability py using First Impression/Sucker Punch to bully most faster mons before getting a free switch into a counter. Assualt |Vest gave it the ability to tank and survive some impressive hits even after going down to half, leech life allowed it tn heal after getting lowered to half to proc the ability again. Final move was just liquidate for that water stab. Would love to see folks play around with this idea to catch opponents unaware
@bruinenstormend
@bruinenstormend 23 дня назад
It would be funny if Simple had a side effect of not being effected by calm mind, or mind reader, or even future sight.
@Lieutenant_Dude
@Lieutenant_Dude Месяц назад
Mega Slowking would be hilarious. He just replaces Truant with Guts and there’s zero other changes.
@PopcornBunni
@PopcornBunni 3 месяца назад
While technically a positive ability, I think Schooling should get lumped in with Defeatist since they're functionally very similar.
@pokedemon584
@pokedemon584 3 месяца назад
Ye, I sometimes play random battles and every time I get Regigigas, I mainly use it as a sacrifice. Even if you somehow stall out those five turns, you need to waste moveslots on protect/substitute/thunder wave. So when slow start is over,you can basically only use knock off/body slam. And you're at 30% health at best.
@falsnamae3511
@falsnamae3511 3 месяца назад
If I'm playing a randomizer or random-teams, and I get a RegiGigas, my view is "well, ~60 Attack isn't AWFUL, still usable compared to some things, given Regi's generally strong bulk". I treat him as a bulky 500-BST mon with no ability, rather than a legendary 670 BST with a demeritous one. 110 in HP and both defenses is still usable, especially with Confuse Ray, T-wave, and Wide Guard.
@michabaron4129
@michabaron4129 2 месяца назад
Prankster is hella good. Keep two things in mind: 1. Knowing your opponent might switch to a Dark type isn't always detrimental. Grimsnarl for example can punish this by clicking 120 base attack stab fairy move to punish it - or you can just switch yourself. Granted, that's way less predictable and i do consider it a nerf to the ability most of the time but wanted to point out it's not all the time. But that's just a warm up, a real argument is as follows 2. so many great status moves don't target your enemy tho. Switching a dark type in cant stop you from getting a priority recover off. From getting that calm mind boost. From setting up sun. Not only you can do all that and much more in face of a dark type, switching it in in such circumstance is just free turns for the Prankster user. That's free money baby. 3. Sure it can feel bad to get your priority Toxic nullified but remember you didnt click it against the dark type. Switching in takes a turn and at worst it will just make you switch out next turn, you still stopped your enemy from attacking/setting up. Is it as good as paralyzing something or getting toxic off? Maybe not but its not nothing. And maybe you're not forced out at all since you can still set up priority screens or do 85% of stuff you would want to do with Prankster mon anyway To sum up i agree there is a downside there but it's straight up not even true to say that Dark types are immune to Prankster. Just to SOME Prankster moves in practice. That aint too bad
@sniperjettps4626
@sniperjettps4626 3 дня назад
I love that sheer force makes nidoking a better special attacker
@KABIGON4445
@KABIGON4445 2 дня назад
Slow start at the end is kind of meta. Like it makes mon slower and move last. And it's so bad that it got moved to the end of the video
@lunar9342
@lunar9342 3 месяца назад
Good as gold would be so much more balanced if it prevented your own status moves. Just give it clear body as a hidden ability so it's movepool doesn't get too close to being a move puddle.
@bonsouare2986
@bonsouare2986 3 месяца назад
In a fangame, "Slow Start" is remplaced after the 5 turns of charge by "Active", a talent which raise Atk, SAtk and Speed by one stage at the end of each turn. And it is a good way of balancing the downsides of Slow Start (Bad english sorry)
@flooferdooper6206
@flooferdooper6206 3 месяца назад
Which fan game? Sounds interesting to try out just from that.
@bonsouare2986
@bonsouare2986 3 месяца назад
@@flooferdooper6206 to be fair, its not really a Pokémon fangame... it is a Pokémon game based on Touhou Project, where you captures puppets that looks like the series' characters. And one of them, P-Yukari, has the talent "Placid", which is the copy of Slow Start The game is Touhou Puppet Dance Performance and can be really weird even for a fan of both Pokémon and Touhou Project
@bonsouare2986
@bonsouare2986 3 месяца назад
@@flooferdooper6206 to be fair, it is not really a Pokémon fangame, it is a game based on Pokémon which elements of Touhou Project, and in this game there are no Pokémon but puppets that looks like Touhous' characters And in this game, P-Yukari has "Placid" which is a copy of "Slow Start" but that turns into "Active" after the 5 turns It is called Touhou Puppet Dance Performance, but the game can be really weird for persons who are just fan of Pokemon and not Touhou Project
@frankchen4229
@frankchen4229 3 месяца назад
still not good in competitive play though considering 5 turns is still a lot
@zel317
@zel317 9 дней назад
27:44 Slow Start should AT THE VERY LEAST buff your attack and speed in exchange when those 5 turns finish
@sadeknight9112
@sadeknight9112 3 месяца назад
Shout out to Pokerogue for giving Slaking the hidden ability Stall. Stall may ruin any Pokemon it’s on except for Slaking.
@caseydewitt6236
@caseydewitt6236 2 месяца назад
I named my Regigigas "Regimpotent" because it "can't get it going."
@temmssmdisnas
@temmssmdisnas 3 месяца назад
Slow start would be so cool if Regigigas had access to entrainment. It would be an interesting buff and give Regigigas a unique support tool
@captainpolar2343
@captainpolar2343 2 месяца назад
fun fact: heliolisk can be used in all weather teams except hail because of its abilities
@jacksonparker6983
@jacksonparker6983 2 месяца назад
Stall would actually be a pretty decent ability if sableye had better bulk and typing, or on a much better mon entirely. Imagine always having access to slow switch moves like Parting Shot or Volt Switch which would give you the counter action advantage
@CompaCompatriot
@CompaCompatriot 11 дней назад
Hustle is the most fun for me. I would purposely catch a Durant with that ability. Also, Durant was my favorite pokemon in that gen.
@noahkelley8235
@noahkelley8235 3 месяца назад
Im still early in the vid, but I saw Normalize and was hoping you'd bring up the possibility of using Skill Swap and switching to a ghost type or a similar strategy. It's a possible niche strategy that someone actually used in a tournament setting with the team of delcatty and haunter so that haunter would just be immune from damage
@solitare4602
@solitare4602 3 месяца назад
It was WolfeyVGC. That team was just evil. It was both a Normalize Trap team as well as a Perish Trap team. Here's the latest of his videos on it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JLfgYN2Yi8A.html
@ApolJooce
@ApolJooce 3 месяца назад
11:57 I love this ability. I have a Shiny Glalie on SV and run it. It CAN be hard to use but once you get the ball rolling with stalling you become a force to be reckoned with.
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