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How Bertrand Russell Saved Ludwig Wittgenstein's Life 

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The Austrian philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein told his lover David Pinsent that Russell’s words of encouragement at the start of his dabbling with philosophy had been his salvation and put an end to nine years of loneliness and suffering in the constant shadow of suicide.
Russell described him as “perhaps the most perfect example I have ever known of genius as traditionally conceived, passionate, profound, intense, and dominating” and said that “he has more passion about philosophy than I have; his avalanches make mine seem mere snowballs”
But before all this became clear, Wittgenstein was tortured by the fear that he was destined for failure. He feared he was a dilettante and was a waste of space. Russell’s validation of him allowed him to set aside ‘a hint that he was de trop in this world’.
Had he arrived years earlier or later, he may have found a Russell that was less sentimental and more protective of his role in technical philosophy. But due to a number of events in Russell’s life he arrived at the perfect time for Russell to embrace him with open arms (eventually)
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⌛ Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
1:40 The Preparation of Russell
5:38 The Austrian Aristocrat
8:35 When Bertrand met Ludwig
12:37 The Student Becomes Master
15:26 The Fragile Genius
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@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy 2 года назад
Want to support the channel? Now you can! 💸 Patreon: patreon.com/thelivingphilosophy ☕️ ko-fi.com/thelivingphilosophy ⌛ Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 1:40 The Preparation of Russell 5:38 The Austrian Aristocrat 8:35 When Bertrand met Ludwig 12:37 The Student Becomes Master 15:26 The Fragile Genius
@matthewmclellan7792
@matthewmclellan7792 2 года назад
Well done analysis of the relationship between Bertrand Russell and Ludwig Wittgenstein. I have been really enjoying your videos as of late. Any chance you can post a list of book recommendations?
@kirklazenby1
@kirklazenby1 Год назад
I read somewhere that his sister was always concerned with his "oddness" as a child. One day she asked "Ludwig, why are you so strange?" Apparently the child Wittgenstein replied "Through this window, you see a man in the street walking strangely. But what you cannot see through the closed window, is the raging storm he is walking into"
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy Год назад
Wow. What a man
@MV-vv7sg
@MV-vv7sg Год назад
I absolutely love this. Think of it constantly.
@44mlokos
@44mlokos 11 месяцев назад
it's similar to Nietzsche's remark about the dancer seeming mad to the ones that don't hear the music
@kirklazenby1
@kirklazenby1 10 месяцев назад
Good one @@44mlokos
@Eternalised
@Eternalised 2 года назад
Brilliant analysis of Wittgenstein, really enjoyed it!!
@pillmuncher67
@pillmuncher67 2 года назад
Each time I re-read the Philosophical Investigations, my mind is blown anew.
@janegadd1681
@janegadd1681 Год назад
Brilliant, wonderful. my husband is a philosopher thinker and much, much more, so I have in all our 45 years together heard him speak of Wittgenstein. Thank you!
@Tahycoon
@Tahycoon 2 года назад
What makes me wonder even more is how many potential great minds were wasted because they were not in the perfect position. Just imagine Wittgenstein's luck was not high enough to put him in this lucky position to meet Russel, he would've decided and we would've never heard of him. This terrifies me when I realize that maybe hundreds were unlucky, and who knows what they could've provided to us. Thank you for the video!
@xtenkfarpl665
@xtenkfarpl665 2 года назад
It says a lot for Russel that he was willing to support Wittgenstein. One can hardly imagine two less compatible philosophers.
@spaceofreasons
@spaceofreasons 7 месяцев назад
While Ray Monk’s ‘Ludwig Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius’ offers a good biography for Wittgenstein . I would recommend ‘Wittgenstein's Tractatus: A Dialectical Interpretation’ by Matthew B. Ostrow.
@eldiagrama
@eldiagrama 2 года назад
You are a great storyteller!
@xmifi
@xmifi 2 года назад
Keep up the excellent work. I enjoy your unique and sometimes poetic description of the different philosophers.
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy 2 года назад
Ah thank you so much xmifi! I really appreciate the support and the kind words
@rogerwolsey2975
@rogerwolsey2975 6 месяцев назад
I am impressed by this tribute to two very great men with great obvious care for their contributions to Philosophy. I was a bit surprised to hear you say that Vegan Stein stopped his work pretty much with the truck Tardes, but he later shifted away from that logical positive his perspective to embrace the more post modern, meaning is use paradigm. I wonder if you can speak about that and the significance of that in the field of philosophy as well.
@adrianalexander3262
@adrianalexander3262 2 года назад
Thelivingphilosophy with another great video. Well done, keep grinding 👍🏻
@juanf.crespo2639
@juanf.crespo2639 Год назад
Thank you for sharing.
@turbochad69
@turbochad69 2 года назад
Very well done analysis on Wittgenstein! You have done quite well my good sir!
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy 2 года назад
Haha thank you Turbochad! The kind words are much appreciated!
@bradrandel1408
@bradrandel1408 2 года назад
That was awesome good job!🕊🦋
@MV-vv7sg
@MV-vv7sg Год назад
Having finished the Tractatus and now deep in the PI I had to revisit this. Thank you again (Ex post facto) for your amazing work which constantly delights and provides impetus in me.
@dianarolls8929
@dianarolls8929 Год назад
Talk about intense - there is one philosophical truth we can agree on, Ottoline was mesmerizingly beautiful.
@doyle6000
@doyle6000 2 года назад
really interesting, thanks!
@lukazka
@lukazka 2 года назад
Great video thank you
@valleyflaneur
@valleyflaneur Год назад
Excellent video, clear and substantive. thanks
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy Год назад
Thank you!
@kehindeonakunle7404
@kehindeonakunle7404 2 года назад
Excellence in simplicity
@ryanoconnor8160
@ryanoconnor8160 Год назад
Thank you for this incredible story. I never knew that Russel + Wittgenstein were so connected. What a fantastic experience Ive had enjoying your delivery here. Happy New Year 🎊
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy Год назад
Thanks Ryan much appreciated! And happy new year!
@marysalisbury9270
@marysalisbury9270 5 месяцев назад
Happy New Year!
@satnamo
@satnamo 2 года назад
The adventure of life is to learn what I find interesting And remember what matters to me. Teaching is even more difficult than learning because what teaching calls for is this: Encouragement and inspiration because genuine interest cannot be forced. Not forcing is Wu wei
@owretchedman
@owretchedman 2 года назад
Wonderful video.
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy 2 года назад
Thanks a million!
@eeeeeee831
@eeeeeee831 2 месяца назад
Good work! Exactly what I was after, and succinct/comprehensive. What book/s are these quotes from?
@spacecase8888
@spacecase8888 8 месяцев назад
Nice video. The audio is slightly off though. You can only tell when the narrarator is shown on screen. His lips don't quite match the words. They're off by a fraction of a second.
@ericmaass3718
@ericmaass3718 11 месяцев назад
One must also add that to begin to understand Wittgenstein one must also comprehend his Jewishness and the history of neurosis outlined by Freud. In this sense he is a distant cousin to other tormened souls like Franz Kafka.
@christianztian3969
@christianztian3969 4 месяца назад
Hello, i would like to ask an advise from you regarding the best introductory books on Wittgenstein. Thanks
@fratertaciturnus4356
@fratertaciturnus4356 2 года назад
The King.
@mohandas1621
@mohandas1621 Год назад
Thank you for your video. I have a query: What writing did W. give Russell that helped W. choose philosophy over aeronautics?
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy Год назад
Good question Mohan I'm not sure actually
@Grbccie
@Grbccie Год назад
Yes, has that paper survived?
@spyology
@spyology 2 года назад
The narrator's voice reminds me that of Moriarty (from the series Sherlock)
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy 2 года назад
Haha I love that show. I'll try and take the comparison to the supervillain as a compliment XD
@DarkSkay
@DarkSkay Год назад
Der Lehrer schreibt den Satz "Worüber man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen" mit Kreide an die Tafel. Der zwölfjährige Markus muss kurz lachen, versinkt dann aber in tiefes Grübeln. Erstaunt, ergänzt der Lehrer das Zitat mit einem Bindestrich und dem Namen des Autors; anders, als es ursprünglich vor hatte und lässt sich beim Schreiben auch mehr Zeit, als üblich. Auf seine gütmütige Art, erkundigt sich der Lehrer beim Schüler, wie es zu seiner belustigten, erstaunten bis grübelnden Reaktion kam. Markus war immer noch gefesselt und tief versunken in Gedanken, aber schon auf eine Frage gestossen, die er dem Lehrer stellen wollte: "Wie kann es sein, dass ein Satz über etwas sprechen kann, worüber man nicht sprechen kann?"
@willieluncheonette5843
@willieluncheonette5843 2 месяца назад
"This is for the real adepts in madness, who have gone beyond all psychiatry, psychoanalysis, who are unhelpable. This third book is again the work of a German, Ludwig Wittgenstein. Just listen to its title: TRACTATUS LOGICO PHILOSOPHICUS. We will just call it TRACTATUS. It is one of the most difficult books in existence. Even a man like G.E.Moore, a great English philosopher, and Bertrand Russell, another great philosopher - not only English but a philosopher of the whole world - both agreed that this man Wittgenstein was far superior to them both. Ludwig Wittgenstein was really a lovable man. I don't hate him, but I don't dislike him. I like him and I love him, but not his book. His book is only gymnastics. Only once in a while after pages and pages you may come across a sentence which is luminous. For example: That which cannot be spoken should not be spoken; one should be silent about it. Now this is a beautiful statement. Even saints, mystics, poets, can learn much from this sentence. That which cannot be spoken must not be spoken of. Wittgenstein writes in a mathematical way, small sentences, not even paragraphs - sutras. But for the very advanced insane man this book can be of immense help. It can hit him exactly in his soul, not only in the head. Just like a nail it can penetrate into his very being. That may wake him from his nightmare. Ludwig Wittgenstein was a lovable man. He was offered one of the most cherished chairs of philosophy at Oxford. He declined. That's what I love in him. He went to become a farmer and fisherman. This is lovable in the man. This is more existential than Jean-Paul Sartre, although Wittgenstein never talked of existentialism. Existentialism, by the way, cannot be talked about; you have to live it, there is no other way. This book was written when Wittgenstein was studying under G.E.Moore and Bertrand Russell. Two great philosophers of Britain, and a German... it was enough to create TRACTATUS LOGICO PHILOSOPHICUS. Translated it means Wittgenstein, Moore and Russell. I, on my part, would rather have seen Wittgenstein sitting at the feet of Gurdjieff than studying with Moore and Russell. That was the right place for him, but he missed. Perhaps next time, I mean next life... for him, not for me. For me this is enough, this is the last. But for him, at least once he needs to be in the company of a man like Gurdjieff or Chuang Tzu, Bodhidharma - but not Moore, Russell, not Whitehead. He was associating with these people, the wrong people. A right man in the company of wrong people, that's what destroyed him. My experience is, in the right company even a wrong person becomes right, and vice-versa: in a wrong company, even a right person becomes wrong. But this only applies to unenlightened men, right or wrong, both. An enlightened person cannot be influenced. He can associate with anyone - Jesus with Magdalena, a prostitute; Buddha with a murderer, a murderer who had killed nine hundred and ninety-nine people. He had taken a vow to kill one thousand people, and he was going to kill Buddha too; that's how he came into contact with Buddha. The murderer's name is not known. The name people gave to him was Angulimala, which means 'the man who wears a garland of fingers'. That was his way. He would kill a man, cut off his fingers and put them on his garland, just to keep count of the number of people he had killed. Only ten fingers were missing to make up the thousand; in other words only one man more.... Then Buddha appeared. He was just moving on that road from one village to another. Angulimala shouted, "Stop!" Buddha said, "Great. That's what I have been telling people: Stop! But, my friend, who listens?" Angulimala looked amazed: Is this man insane? And Buddha continued walking towards Angulimala. Angulimala again shouted, "Stop! It seems you don't know that I am a murderer, and I have taken a vow to kill one thousand people. Even my own mother has stopped seeing me, because only one person is missing.... I will kill you... but you look so beautiful that if you stop and turn back I may not kill you." Buddha said, "Forget about it. I have never turned back in my life, and as far as stopping is concerned, I stopped forty years ago; since then there is nobody left to move. And as far as killing me is concerned, you can do it anyway. Everything born is going to die." Angulimala saw the man, fell at his feet, and was transformed. Angulimala could not change Buddha, Buddha changed Angulimala. Magdalena the prostitute could not change Jesus, but Jesus changed the woman. So what I said is only applicable to so-called ordinary humanity, it is not applicable to those who are awakened. Wittgenstein can become awakened; he could have become awakened even in this life. Alas, he associated with wrong company. But his book can be of great help to those who are really third-degree insane. If they can make any sense out of it, they will come back to sanity."
@adrenochromedreams5993
@adrenochromedreams5993 2 года назад
Dude, I love Wittgeinstein, he's like me in a way.
@iammraat3059
@iammraat3059 2 года назад
Let me send you the memorable 4chan post, you'll reconsider
@Tahycoon
@Tahycoon 2 года назад
@@iammraat3059 I will die from curiosity, what is it?
@Metamorph2
@Metamorph2 Год назад
@@Tahycoon same
@user-fr5ff4hn2h
@user-fr5ff4hn2h 5 месяцев назад
@@Tahycoongo on the Wittgenstein subreddit and sort by top posts of all time. It’s likely that post he’s referring to
@maaaaaaaaarcel
@maaaaaaaaarcel Год назад
And yet Wittgenstein never understood Gödel's theorems... :D (let the games begin)
@markantrobus6794
@markantrobus6794 Год назад
Great presentation. But Pronounced "Prinkipia" Mathematica.
@TheLivingPhilosophy
@TheLivingPhilosophy Год назад
Ah thank you mark. Note taken!
@markantrobus6794
@markantrobus6794 Год назад
@@TheLivingPhilosophyI'm impressed, hey, you really do check the comments! Really enjoy your work. Just FYI I am a declassé working class philosopher whose bulding trade partner was a philosophy PhD drop out from CU Boulder CO who corrected my pronunciation of that title decades ago. I grew up with Russell as our ex-pat Brit family:s sort of Agnostic defender in the age of Post-McCarthy 1950s America. Russell's "Why I Am Not a Christian" and "The Conquest of Happiness" were high school era standards read at home. I once tried to go through Principia, sitting alone in a corn field in Southern Suffolk - no thanks. Then got into Zen, and spent my twenties as a monk in India. I am very retired, returned and living in India as an adoptive citizen, doing environmental work (PHCC) and writing a book on the mystical roots of Wittgenstein. Much needed, since his whole point (to me and other 'secondary literature') seems to be glossed over by "university philosophy" as he dispatagingly called it. Okay. Cheers.
@anthonyochocki6535
@anthonyochocki6535 2 года назад
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..........................
@excelsior999
@excelsior999 Год назад
Mothers, don't raise your sons to be cowboys or philosophers.
@Digiphex
@Digiphex Год назад
He and his suicidal brothers were quite mad. I call emperor's new clothes, his writing is eccentric and maybe even trendy but not that great and certainly nonsense in part.
@picaronews2888
@picaronews2888 2 года назад
Who cares?
@Tahycoon
@Tahycoon 2 года назад
Me.
@Metamorph2
@Metamorph2 Год назад
Me.
@jonbainmusicvideos8045
@jonbainmusicvideos8045 2 года назад
Wittgenstein was a shell-shocked neurotic whose contribution to philosophy did more to give it a bad name, than anything else. Unsubscribe.
@the_famous_reply_guy
@the_famous_reply_guy 2 года назад
Which arguments do you find problematic regard Wittgenstein specifically? For me it's the edges.
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