Thanks for the episode! For the intercity lines, having one line per outside connection that just zips back and forth between the connection and the bus station seems like the best use of city resources. It does not seem beneficial for Magnolia County to be paying for buses to transport people between Clearwater County and Duluth as you would have originally had it set up. :)
With the planning adding the bus stops in advance of development makes sense. I was driving through an area in my city in the initial phase of development, they are building new main roads and I noticed one place that already has a bus stop sign but no bus service and traffic lights.
The more you build Bend, the more it reminds me of Williamsport, PA, the home of the Little League World Series. It would be fun to see a Youth Sports Championship complex of some kind in Bend.
Butler end should be North Point as it is the northernmost point on that side of the river. Emerson Glen should be renamed to King's Crossing as it is one the early crossings across the river and connects farmland owned by influential landowner Nick King to the rest of Bend.
Another comment, hello! I’d just like to say, when you finally start a metro I’d love to see you try to attempt something like the “city loop” done here in Melbourne Australia. It creates a nice central loop that then branches out towards the inner and outer city suburbs. Some train lines that go from one side of the city to the other often skip past this loop for convenience and to not congest the line (see the Werribee-Frankston train line which goes a long distance connecting west and south eastern suburbs)
They can be wildly controversial. Not too long ago, someone complained to every news outlet in town that a stop was going in by their house and would "take" their property while "forcing" them to have sidewalks installed. This was a stop added within the right-of-way, along with sidewalks installed within the right-of-way, too. That's just one example, but there are many more... maybe a good topic for a stream!
I feel that Butler End should be called Cannon Point because it was the location of a small Army Fort during the 1800's that was designed to protect against hostile forces sailing up the river unopposed
This is a really good idea. It would also let you not have to put schools in every small town. Like in real life, they could bus to a farther away school
I found it really interesting when you talked about how people are against having bus stops nearby. I live around a more rural area in Hong Kong, and although this is anecdotal, I find that a lot of us actually want bus stops near our homes. We have these small 16-19 seater "minibuses" that service the smaller rural areas, and people often celebrate new routes opening.
In America, pretty much everyone already has cars and hasn't really thought about using anything else. So buses don't seem necessary and appear to only bring negatives to the community.
It's about density. If you're in a rural area with single family homes. You wouldn't want strangers hanging out, loading, and offloading in front of or near your home. Not to mention vehicle (or other) noise it brings. Entry into higher density condos/ apartments is typically locked to residents only or have some form of security.
Most people want bus stops nearby, they just don't want them right in their front yard. You want it to be a quick, short walk but you don't want to deal with dozens of strangers hanging out in your yard or on your property.
I think there could be a level of "east vs west". Naming the new area East or West Bend and having a competing school districts at some point, could be an interesting story moment. It would feel very similar to an area not far from my home suburb, where we had two high schools named east and west.
where i went to highschool a nearby town had north side and south side, they absolutely hated each other which i didnt get because some of those guys lived in the same neighborhood
Yeah, it's the kind of boringly unimaginative name that occurs everywhere. I mean, I live in NZ, where the major parts of the country are the North Island and the South Island.
The one highschool in Bend already has a stadium for the small town rivalry games! In my experience one side always gets the better budget and ends up with better equipment, coaches and stuff, and usually ends up dominating the game. Doesn't stop the parents from cheering super loud though!
29:20 I feel like it would be better to have the Free Bend-University route stopping at the back entrance to the High School and the €2 Bend - Copper Valley route running through the areas north of the main avenue since that would be significant barrier if you were walking. It would be beneficial for both the high-schoolers, for the Bend-Copper Valley route itself (Wouldn’t mirror the Bend-University route as much as well as serve areas that currently have pretty bad access to transit, making it more profitable) and for the transit coverage in the city.
I wonder if the municipal government could get buy-in from Chuckles if they contract his cabs for specialized transit such as para transpo. He gets guaranteed fares and folks with special needs have access to affordable transportation.
I think the main but-in would be NOT stealing from hard-working citizens to create a service that not everyone uses. It should be, if you use it, you pay for it. You use roads? Gas tax and tolls cover road maintenance. You use the bus? Pay for the bus. But people being forced at gunpoint to give up MORE of their hard earned money to pay for other people's desire to ride a smelly fart box with 50 people is something that Chuckles the Great does not agree with.
This episode is really confusing to me as an Australian, because I can't comprehend having a central bus station so far out of the city - here it just wouldn't happen, or would be viewed as an expensive boondoggle.
I grew up in India, and agree with that 100%. Now living in the US and seeing where my city has built its largest bus station, however, this location in the video makes sense (as sad as that is)
One thing to consider is that the city is still growing, and the location it's in will continue to be more and more central as things expand and density increases. What doesn't make sense is that there's no connection into the urban area from the west at the moment. I'm sure CPP has plans to de-cul-de-sac the office area where the landfill used to be at some point, and it will end up being a bit more logical.
As someone living in a city in the US, our central bus hub is in downtown so seeing it outside of downtown is weird to me. Edit: it's also weird seeing the bus stops be directly across from each other when they're at intersections. Where I'm from when there are two across from each other at an intersection each bus stop will be behind the traffic light/stop sign.
Here in Brazil, not all bus stops are symmetrical. This means that on the way back of the loop line, you can pass through other locations. It's interesting to see the differences. Additionally, some cities here have something that we call a "Integrated Terminal", where we have buses and the subway on the same terminal, so you can pay one ticket to use both services.
I think that's more of an European development strategy. The city I grew up in had many places like that where buses, trams, and the subway all shared one terminal and people could buy transit tickets that covered all of them.
Absolutely. But it’s hard to make integrated terminals in CS2 because the bus terminals are just too dang small. You can’t do anything with only 6 spaces, and there’s no way to make a joined metro/bus terminal without just imagining it’s one thing. Maybe a DLC later, like the one in CS1
@@alexanderwells4516 The town of Greenmoor, long removed from its simple farming days, has seen the university become the town’s main employer. Whereas many of its population are open to the ideas and new opportunities being afforded to them, Bishop Alphus clings to the old ways and old laws that built up Greenmoor into what it is today, and due to the town’s outdated code of laws, the Catholic leaders still hold power. But newer generations are coming into the town to the university and times are quickly changing. The current point of contention is after the opening of the Greenmoor Medical Research Institute, a statement of the art facility dedicated to the research of medicine and health sciences. Bishop Alphus protested greatly, using the local population to strengthen his position and using connections in the local government to delay the opening, but failed. With the new research facility, there are many skilled job openings in the area as well as medical professionals moving to the city, current University of Greenmoor President, Alexandria Jimenez, puts forward a notion to the city council to obtain a building permit to add on a Medical School to the university, but seeing his power already waning after he failed to stop the research facility, Bishop Alphus invoked the outdated code of laws to strike down her proposal. Voters are currently split into many divisions as much of the population, including some of the Catholic, see Bishop Alphus as someone clinging to tradition and abusing his power. As such, Jimenez has announced her support for Andrei Spaseba, a prominent business man in his run for mayor, on the condition that he promise to undo the old laws that give the power to the diocese, which he does in his campaign speeches. In a last ditch effort to keep Greenmoor on the right path, Bishop Alphus gives his support to a very conservative candidate in opposition to Spaseba. And for now my friend, all we can do is wait for the voters to choose the future of Greenmoor.
Since Bend is a pretty college-focused town at the moment, I’m gonna offer some suggestions that the university itself might request: A smaller lower intensity bus route or something to get around campus could be cool especially if you have plans for expanding the campus in future (which would be cool to see btw). Also, sure to also put a bus stop closer to the university dorms for the student’s sake. Even a short walk from the school to the bus can really suck if you’re carrying a big suitcase or something (lots of students will be doing this when they go home/travel for thanksgiving, winter & spring break, and long weekends), and students are definitely going to utilize that luxury if you provide it. Another thing is that to keep the bus depot outside of residential areas but close to areas of high use, you could move the bus depot near the university. The school might’ve even sold the city the land for the bus depot at a below market price to keep startup costs down. Love the videos by the way! They’ve rekindled my love for cities skylines (though I’m too broke to get myself cities skylines 2 atm)
CPP: I don't want to go crazy with landscaping, I'll just prepare a few areas to focus on. Also CPP: Goes ham with lines of trees and bushes. To be clear I think it all looks awesome, just something that made me chuckle.
Love how City Planner Plays’ series basically have their own cinematic universe at this point. The stories make it so interesting to watch, it’s like watching a history documentary
2 things id like to mention to add realism and cohesion to the busses: 1. You wouldn't have bi-directional bus service at the end of a route, like the roundabout in the university. Instead you'd have the bus go around the roundabout and stop at the singular stop. this means the bus doesn't need to stop as often when it doesn't need to. 2. Often times the 2 stops are not directly next to each other on the road, instead they're staggered. This keeps the spacings on the road much nicer (the game does that instead by adding the bus lanes down the road, but still, even in some cases that a road has that lane, the stops are not that close)
From my experience, bus depots tend to actually be in very crowded areas. Like right in the middle of everything as they’re usually apart of the main bus hub, which is usually in the very middle or most populated/busiest part of a town/city. Town I lived in it used to be dead centre in the middle of town where the old fire station used to be, but was later moved to be behind the train station when rail and bus companies started working more closely together. (When trains aren’t running buses will go point to point to train stations without stopping and it’s free.) The main city in my area has the bus hub and depot in the main heart of the city. Surrounded by pedestrian shopping plaza area and the university and college as well as lots of densely packed townhouses and apartments.
For the neighborhood currently called Butler End, I propose the name Meander View, or maybe just Meander. It sits right on a tight meander of the river, and the houses there would have a really nice view. The walking trails around would make for a great park that could be named after the meander of the river as well.
In light of the addition of hickory trees, along with the four-way crossing being the focal point of the neighborhood, Emerson Glen could be named "Hickory Crossing" Has a bit of a ring to it :)
I don't get how you turn such a vanilla game right now into this...as of right now everyone under the sun is building cities. But you, and the story, makes this a entirely different game. Absolutely love the vid cpp amazing job as always.
🚲 (Engagement!) [Edit: Wait... did you say BUS STOPS are a NIMBY concern in the US? Holy cow, you guys really hate anything that isn't your own metal box, don't ya? Meanwhile my city consideres 5 minutes the _maximum_ any citizen should have to walk to a transit stop. Obviously that brings busses through neighborhoods, but since an electric bus is way, waaaay less loud than the equivalent amount of single-occupant cars, I have never heard of that being an issue. Like, at all...] [Edit 2: I think Vermont Creek would most likely be named "Railhead" or "Clearwater Depot" or something as it was build on the grounds of the old depot you initially placed there. Or you could go the New York route with it and call it "South Side Yard", which citizens would then take to call SoSiYa - pronounced "So say ya!"]
Absolutely love the videos ! I also love the American view of planning bus routes, as a French person. Here in France, in most urban or suburban areas, most busses are local, which mean they only serve a single neighbourhood and connect to a mass transit system, wether that be train, metro or trams. There are still lines that go from one town to another, but they're more "express" busses, and used only in more rural areas, where there is no mass transit coverage.
Hi Phil, when I was in Hawaii I found it strange that none of the busses heading towards a bus station. The bus would go through Waikiki but there was no Waikiki Bus Station for passangers to depart and embark on new bus journeys. The closest to this was the senate building, with bus stops spread far around the complex. Every bus I've ever been on in the UK begins and ends at a city centre bus station. For me this is super conveninent, as if I'm going from Village A to Town C, I always know I can connect at B, the end of A line's city centre bus station, and most of my journeys are typically straight to the city centre anyway. They have also been very near, or even incorperated directly into, the other transportation services or hubs in the city, such as train stations or metro lines. It would never occur to me to get off a bus at a random stop to connect to another bus line as I experienced in Hawaii, nor that the bus station would be on the other side of the city to the train station, as is the case in Bend. I wanted to ask if what I experienced in Hawaii is typical for bus services in the US, if you are modeling based on this system with your bus station so far from your pre-existing downtown development and train station, and what the benifits of such a system are. I hope this post comes off as eager to gleam insight and not critical. I want to learn from Mr City Planner. Sorry for the long post. I really tried to shorten it :)
I can help with parts of this. The US is a huge place. The situation in Hawaii tells you nothing about the situation in Houston which tells you nothing about NYC. I live in Harrisburg - which is a mid-size town in the middle-ish of Pennsylvania. When I visit Philadelphia - which is a 1.5 hour drive away - I drive there and use my car exclusively despite the fact that Harrisburg actually has relatively okay train service to Philly. Same story with Baltimore (1.5 hours) and Pittsburgh (3.5 hours) - but when I visit NYC I will take the train almost every time. Harrisburg to NYC by train will put me right in the heart of Manhattan and the NYC subway system is good. Pittsburgh isn't exactly a great transit city but it does have a usable light rail system that interfaces with bus routes. Hawaii is building an elevated rail system that will eventually connect the densely populated west end to the airport and through Honolulu almost to Waikiki, so that's going to improve eventually.
I can't speak to the US, but in my city (Auckland, NZ), bus stations are historically rare, but becoming more common as the public transport network evolves. 20 years ago, I had a long commute on a bus that connected distant suburbs (no stations) to the city center (which is and was the major hub, connecting to rail and ferry networks). I don't live out that way anymore, but if I did, the trip would now involve a bus terminating at a new-ish rail/bus interchange about halfway to the city, then either a train or a second bus to my office. And that's been fairly typical of how the local networks have evolved... a greater emphasis on having those satellite hubs located around the main road and rail routes, and using suburban bus links to feed traffic between those hubs. Previously, it was very centralised... great if you just wanted to get into the city center, but almost useless for travelling cross-town. And what cross-connections existed generally weren't anything recognisably a "station"... it was mostly at somewhere like a shopping mall, or the main street of one of the suburban towns.
I chuckled when you were talking about rural bus stops requiring a touch of "urbanization" like sidewalks, because where I'm from if the village doesn't have a full-on bus station then the bus stop is quite often just a shelter literally off the side of the highway, and you're (probably) expected to leg it there however many kilometers. Luckily never had to do that myself... one can hope those are just remains of the old transit system
Recently went back to the rural area that I left for the city, and felt a pang of nostalgia when I ended up waiting at an ivy-overgrown, concrete-walled bus shelter, with a collapsed roof, on the side of a disused A-Road with no idea whether my connection would be turning up in an hour
In the context of Traffic Optimization/Engineering (if you are aiming for "realism"/real-world), the objective is to reduce private vehicle traffic(with public transit), therefore, the bus/route speeds (or Time Duration Spent) need to be approximately equal to or less than(via BRT) that of personal vehicles. This entails, among other factors, strategically placing bus stops, with a preference for "Near-side" locations situated alongside crosswalks and positioned "Downstream" from the preceding intersection(assuming no BRT). When this strategic placement is implemented, the impact of buses on overall traffic AND the impact on the bus route speed produced by passengers embarking and disembarking is minimized. For instance, when a bus is stationary at a red light, it makes sense to allow passenger loading and unloading since it has minimal impact to the bus route speed/performance (1 unavoidable stop). This is more efficient compared to holding off on passenger activities while the light is red, only to traverse the intersection when it turns green and then promptly stop at the other side of the intersection to load/unload passengers (1 unavoidable stop + 1 avoidable stop = 2 stops). References/Sources: - Traffic and Route Optimization Experience(aka part of my job) - Long research paper: journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1687814019848272 - Diagram example, Page 9, Figure 4: nacto.org/docs/usdg/septa_bus_stop_design_guidelines_delaware_valley.pdf Providing more depth to @jacoblienhardt earlier comment TLDR: Optimal bus stop placement involves positioning stops just before intersections, at/ just before the crosswalks, and diagonally across the intersection(or crosswalk/path) from each other for bi-directional routes. Sidenote: for a more optimal game play Drop the road node BEFORE dropping the bus stop. Edits: 1) Added Sidenote 2) Spelling/Grammer/Clarity
Just before watching this, I have to say it’s not so much the city building that I love(although that is a major aspect) I really engage with the story telling side of the city building as this is how I and Iam guessing many others play this game.
When you made that straight road by editing the coastline at 9:35 I died a little inside. Let's have more slight bends that respect existing geography!! (Maybe this is the European in me speaking).
Since you have a route out to Copper Valley, you could potentially have a secondary bus depot out there or near the railway that would serve that route without dead-heading. Not realistic or feasible yet with the low usage for that route, but something to consider.
🚴♀ Your storytelling makes your channel stand out from other city builders. Really love the way you use your city to tell a compelling story! Keep up the awesome cities!
Im so happy to finally see someone do a realistic bus route! Everyone ells sets up a loop with 2 lines going each way and Ive told them that aint the way its done but finally someone done it!! Make me so happy!
remember with rush hours andpeak directions 50% utilisation often means people passed up in peak direction and very quite buses in the off-peak direction.
Ah, victory. I love seeing the way that a transit auth can be created and slowly develop over time - looking forward to what happens with it in the future!
it seems like the new neighborhoods are still part of Bend proper, so I would think the names should be consistent with that. Maybe Emerson could be Bend Hill, Poplar View could be Bend Fork. The only thing I could think of for Butler End was the somewhat corny 'Round the Bend' 😅 but maybe something less goofy like 'Bend End' would play better
I wonder how Chuckles will respond? He can't leave this community too lol. Another great episode. You sounded a little stuffy, Phil, hope you are feeling well. This midwest winter has been a bad one for flu.
He will for sure have a response! The stuffiness is the post-holiday portion of the recording - haha! I'm doing alright, but feeling better by the day! So far, no flu... knock on wood!
Not great with names, but here goes. Poplar View -> Since we have East Bend, we can maybe have West or Upper Bend. Also maybe name the farms on the other side of the river to West Bend Farms. Butler End -> I'm borrowing View from the top and since it's a literal river bend, this one should be Riverbend View Emerson Glen -> "Short" street runs through this neighborhood, so as a joke the people wanted it to be called "Steep" Valley (Most terrain hiccups happened here). But they wanted to add a bit of irony, so they named it in Dutch - Steile Valley (hopefully translator is correct)... like probably no such thing exist in the Netherlands.
I lament that such a big development didn’t get any story reasoning. But it is good that you continued the canon of Chuckles taxi service. Anyway thanks for the content. ❤❤❤
I don't really comment often on video's but the content you make is inspiring. Great visuals, animations, story telling. You see that you take love and care in making your video's. It's even educational! Keep up the amazing work and I always look forward to your next video! 😊
My hometown had a bus station on the outskirts of the city, it was a nightmare. It made utilization less, it made everything less desirable. They moved it to the city centre and it was much, much better. I don't understand the obsession in North America with putting transit transfer hubs in the middle of nowhere. Hopefully this becomes more centrally located as the city grows, because right now, it's really not that desirable and makes the last mile travel suck.
The fact that a vote of 11-9 is just casually accepted as being ‘realistic’ for an American town is scary. Like in Europe, public transport isn’t a debate about “if” it’s a debate about when and where, and how much. Like even tiny villages in the middle of nowhere will usually have maybe a bus run through it. If it doesn’t. There’s usually a town nearby that does. There’s truly very few remote places here, and the ones that are is usually intentional and people like it being that way. Like normal families don’t live there typically. For instance, a European country I don’t live in (so at least two of us…There’s more, have public transport everywhere) known as ‘Germany’ 🇩🇪 you might have heard of it. In Germany, the ‘Right of Family’ (which makes more sense than the 2nd Amendment to us Europeans but that’s a different debate that I’m not having with people online) literally includes a radius around a school and anyone not within that radius will either have public transport moved to their location or will be covered the costs of having to drive/or means of getting there. So people in the middle of the woods will either have a bus route add a stop close to the woods, or will be given money to buy a car and cover the cost of fuel if the parent knows how to drive and costs less than adding a new bus route. So yeah, the debate about whether or not to have public transport is absurd! But I’m aware lots of towns don’t have it. In fact I only ever hear of people getting public transport as a normal everyday thing in cities. Like getting a bus, or a subway etc in New York, Chicago etc is pretty normal, but anywhere else and you get weird looks and considered dirt poor. Over here? People making 6 figures will be seen riding a train or a bus to work, it’s normal. Crazy how different things are 😂
Hey Phil, I haven't actually watched the video yet but I already know it's going to be amazing and I just wanted to say how grateful I am for this series since unfortunately due to the game being so expensive I can't play it myself but at least I get to watch you build these amazing cities😀.
Name suggestion for Cherry Brook: Maidenhead Bit of a play on words with 'cherry' being a slang term for 'virginity'. The name would one of those mildly controversial religious/historical holdovers from the original Puritan settlers, like naming your daughter Chastity or something. Every few years someone tries starting a campaign to get it changed to something less offensive, which never quite gets off the ground. Everyone sort of agrees in principle, but Bend still has that small town attachment to heritage/tradition even when it's not necessarily PC anymore.
Loving the video. Just wondering, why wouldn't you combine the trainstation with the busstation? Makes so much sense. I guess it's challenging from a building perspective.
Hi ! I grew up in south of France near the river Rhône, in a little village call Fourques. The name is due to the river separate into a Y at this place. Fourques is a evolution of the old french name Fourco which come from the word fourche, litterally fork in english if you don't guessed it already 😁. I think Poplar View have kind of the same feature and made me think of this. Keep on your series, I watch them for few years now and love your city planner point of view. Have a nice year !!!
You can change the clear water bus line into day time only service which may lessen the no.of buses required less than 7 and also help save bus resources and money, love to see almost 90% people using bus service, can't imagine a full-on tram, metro service would be.
Got a small suggestion, shouldn't the bus line color for the Copper Valley Industrial Line be an orange-ish color? That color seems quite fitting for an area with copper in its name.
I grew up and went to college in rural/rural adjacent areas and it is very common to have homes along roads that farms are next to, especially with any amount of density nearby.
The lowered peninsula park should likely be a historical site, perhaps a small former native settlement that couldn't sustain due to being right on a floodplain. Decades later, some Dutch immigrants discovered the area while passing through and named the region where Bend now exists Flodslette. Obviously they didn't stick around and settle there, probably ended up somewhere in Minnesota, but it was remarkable enough that they decided to give it a name. You could put some ruins and quay walls around that park as a historical rejuvenation project, and have Flodslette Peninsula be a major tourist attraction in the city.
I can't think of a Dutch root that would lead to the name Flodslette (flood = vloed or overstroming; and the -ette diminutive is French, not Dutch). With the backstory you mention, where it floods regularly at high water levels, it wouldn't be a permanent historical settlement, but something like a summer camp: easy access to fishing the river in summer, and lush summer pastures for herds, but in winter they'd retreat to a more sturdy winter camp safe from floods. So calling it 'summer camp' would probably make more sense than any of the possible Dutch terms full of unusual dipthongs like 'uiterwaarden', 'buitendijkse gronden', 'broek' etc.
your videos get better every time, great edit, great story, great everything. Thanks Phill for this awesome work. Maybe for you next story, you could make an over seas city. When ther is an UK similar map. A great way to learn about citys in the old continent. It might make you work a lot more, but it would be a learning opotunity and maybe grow you uk audience. sorry for bad english, hello from Mexico.
My name suggestion (a frankly selfish one) is for one of the smaller riverside towns to potentially take the name "Ditton" after a town near where I used to live, in England. The meaning of the word, originally "Dictune" in Saxon, is a village situated on a dike or trench of water. 😊
I think Cherry Brook should be named something like "Bent" or "Bended" to reflect that this was one of the first expansions of the town, so its name is similar to the main town name, but different. Also since the HS is in this district, the HS would have a name reflecting the name of the town also.
The thing that annoys me about the Bus Station is that it's seemingly set up for left-hand traffic, which makes it a pain to seamlessly integrate into right hand traffic. The busses can really back up into the streets if you don't flip the station around and give it a dedicated road.
I'm not saying that this city's not realistict but it's so different from where I live. In a town of over 30,000, the tallest building is two or three stories, there is no public transport, just a few parks, no sidewalks, and only half of the roads are paved. There are mainly just chain fast food and grocery stores, and barely and public amenities. I'd love to live in a town like this. I live in Colorado, USA, so it's not like it's a developing nation
That sounds so odd to me. I grew up in a Spanish village of under 2000 people and we had several buses connecting us with other cities/villages. There are sidewalks everywhere and if there aren't then that's because it is a pedestrian area or a rural path (with almost no cars at all). We had lots of parks, even a nature reserve with a river beach, a school, library, culture areas, church (plus other religious buildings in the most rural part), sports centre (for football, padel and other things), medical centre, banks, etc. There are also several bars and restaurants, and a couple of grocery stores. It sounds so strange to me that a much bigger town would lack any of these!
I can imagine maybe there was a fur trader named, let’s says, Nathaniel Short, that would camp on the point of the river bend currently called butler end. Short street isn’t named short because of the length, but for Nathaniel Short. Maybe butler end could called Short Point or Shorts Ferry or something like that.
I hope one day we can have mini buses for the taxi depot. Use the taxis as a sort of on demand transit system. I like the taxis... but they're efficient enough...
