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How Can an Old Hollywood Lighting Technique Help You Today? 

Rob Ellis
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Butterfly, or Paramount Lighting, refers to the position of a light source placed in front and above of a character or subject, in such a position to cast a butterfly-shaped shadow under the nose. Used in the Golden Age of Hollywood for studio portraits and even favoured by certain actresses in movies themselves, the butterfly light slims the face and accentuates the jaw.
Move the light a little higher and the face might appear too shadowy, with facial features obscured - move the light a little lower and the face might appear too flat. The butterfly light satisfies that middle ground between mood and visibility - and as a bonus, it's a top light - which means it can be used in many situations where we subconsciously expect there to be light coming from above the frame - even when we can't see it in the scene.
This is just one aspect of what can contribute toward a cinematic feeling - check out the other episodes in the Lighting for Cinema A - Z series to learn more about what makes cinema feel a certain way:
• Lighting for Cinema A - Z
Lenses:
Samyang 14mm t/3.1 VDSLR MK2
Samyang 24mm t/1.5 VDSLR MK2
Samyang 35mm t/1.5 VDSLR MK2
Samyang 50mm t/1.5 VDSLR MK2
Cameras:
Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K Pro
Panasonic Lumix S5 (BTS)
Lights used in the video:
Nanlite Forza 60C
Nanlite Pavobulb 10C
Video Contents:
0:00 From Old to New
0:53 Butterfly, or Paramount Lighting
2:12 Old Hollywood vs The Modern Day
3:57 Inspiration for the Scene with Flim/Sponsor
5:06 Why is Butterfly Lighting Useful?
5:58 How We Lit the Scene
7:28 The Importance of the Learning Process
7:47 Recreating Daylight

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@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
beta.flim.ai/?via=rob - Get 15% off your monthly or yearly Flim subscription here! COLOR GRADE - www.dehancer.com - get 10% off Dehancer using ROBELLIS at checkout www.patreon.com/robelliscinematography - support me on Patreon for early, extended, ad-free RU-vid videos + message board - including the entire Lighting with Colour mini course available to stream now! Butterfly, or Paramount Lighting, refers to the position of a light source placed in front and above of a character or subject, in such a position to cast a butterfly-shaped shadow under the nose. Used in the Golden Age of Hollywood for studio portraits and even favoured by certain actresses in movies themselves, the butterfly light slims the face and accentuates the jaw. Move the light a little higher and the face might appear too shadowy, with facial features obscured - move the light a little lower and the face might appear too flat. The butterfly light satisfies that middle ground between mood and visibility - and as a bonus, it's a top light - which means it can be used in many situations where we subconsciously expect there to be light coming from above the frame - even when we can't see it in the scene. This is just one aspect of what can contribute toward a cinematic feeling - check out the other episodes in the Lighting for Cinema A - Z series to learn more about what makes cinema feel a certain way: ru-vid.com/group/PL_dDUxn1Y2e1SJ_Q2H96godCiNSCFvIqI&si=drpJ9zgsYfRRyFOJ
@Stedmen
@Stedmen 5 месяцев назад
Hands down best lighting videos
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Very happy you think so - thank you so much!! Hope you enjoyed this one! :)
@tomaszbejnarowicz
@tomaszbejnarowicz 5 месяцев назад
daaamn that was refreshing to see you talking on a video haha
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha happy to hear it - attempting to speed up some of my workflow, so currently thinking of ways to creatively implement the narration in the video itself. So more to come!
@anoophothi
@anoophothi 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographerBrilliant! You did it, haha🥳💪🏽💪🏽
@WasabiNoise
@WasabiNoise Месяц назад
That transition from old footage to modern style with that touch at the end with lamp at the back... Chef kiss!
@francozapata1303
@francozapata1303 5 месяцев назад
BABE WAKE UP, NEW ROB VIDEO JUST DROP 😂
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha I would always appreciate that level of excitement for a new video! 🤣
@joshsfilmjournal
@joshsfilmjournal 5 месяцев назад
Oh my God, one of the best cinematographers on RU-vid and it's not even close. That intro gave me chills man!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Wow thank you Joshua, that means a lot! Massively appreciate it!! :)
@starlifter303
@starlifter303 4 месяца назад
0:35 that sound design!! brilliant!
@BransenPass
@BransenPass 5 месяцев назад
That intro was so good. Loved where you transitioned from radio voice to you talking on camera. Very well done!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate it, thank you! I’m not an audio expert but it was a fun thing to mess around with!
@danielalt7508
@danielalt7508 5 месяцев назад
I love your videos and how you focus on the importance on lights! Also that you always light a scene to mood, rather than many photographers who focus on trying to get the whites look as white as possible!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much Daniel! Super happy you’re enjoying my videos! :)
@NasserTone
@NasserTone 4 месяца назад
Wow just wow!!! This is super amazing man!! Thanks for sharing with us!❤
@reaganpieter
@reaganpieter 5 месяцев назад
The transition to modern at 0:37, wow!! Topnotch video as always!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much - I wasn't expecting it to look as smooth as it did, so I'm pretty happy with it! I appreciate it Reagan!
@scottrgarland
@scottrgarland 5 месяцев назад
I went on a studio tour of Paramount Studios 2 months ago and was introduced to the amazing photographer George Hurrell. He popularized this technique back in older Hollywood times and his photography is absolutely amazing. I thought the very same thing when I was looking through his photo books on how to translate this to my own photography and videos. Amazing video!!!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Very happy you enjoyed the video and glad I could further help your thought process on it! And very jealous of your Paramount Studios tour - I’d love to get over there one day and learn more about the history of everything, I’ve always had a fascination with Hollywood, warts and all!
@riskybiscutz
@riskybiscutz 5 месяцев назад
The new video style you were talking about is so great. The prompter is a game-changer! Amazing and incredibly helpful as always Rob!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! It's going to evolve a little beyond this, so more to come! :D always happy to hear it, hope you continue to find the videos useful! :)
@JimirMar
@JimirMar 4 месяца назад
Love your channel man🎥
@baxslatton
@baxslatton 5 месяцев назад
I friggin love this video! I like the change up of editing style. Also, gave me chills actually watching you speak!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate it massively and I'm glad you're liking the presentation changes! The plan is do more than just those just little bits in future, so plenty more to come!
@sokol8444
@sokol8444 5 месяцев назад
Amazing video! Straight to the point and with a captivating start that had me hooked until the end!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Very happy you enjoyed it - thank you so much! :)
@WhySteve
@WhySteve 5 месяцев назад
Nevermind the great lighting breakdowns, I just absolutely LOVE the vibe of these videos! 🤙
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much Steve!!
@giraffeapproved
@giraffeapproved 5 месяцев назад
KEEP EM COMING ROB!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Will do! 😄
@JorgeSGuimaraes
@JorgeSGuimaraes 5 месяцев назад
Amazing video! Thank you for the clear explanation!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it - thank you! :)
@harpenfluit
@harpenfluit 5 месяцев назад
What a wonderful video to teach. Thank you!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I hope you found it useful in some way - thank you for your kind words! :)
@DoublewideCinema
@DoublewideCinema 5 месяцев назад
Thank you I’ve really learned a lot from your videos, this one is super cool🌞
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Happy to hear it and I hope you can continue to find my videos useful - thank you so much! 🌞
@theindiefilmdude
@theindiefilmdude 5 месяцев назад
This series just keeps getting Better and Better my Friend😎🤟
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Extremely happy to hear it - thank you so much! :) I hope you can continue to enjoy it!
@jonathanl7883
@jonathanl7883 5 месяцев назад
This is incredible, thank you!!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Happy you enjoyed it/found it useful - thank you so much! :)
@BearingEast
@BearingEast 5 месяцев назад
Another great video, man!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much man! Glad you enjoyed this one! :)
@coallaoc
@coallaoc 5 месяцев назад
Again awesome. Thank you for your work. ❤
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
And thank you for your kind words! Happy you're enjoying my videos! ❤️
@kostasfassoulas6915
@kostasfassoulas6915 5 месяцев назад
When I first saw a video from you channel I thought the guy in the video was an actor helping you for the video making, then I found out that it was you behind all! Nice! By that I can say you establish more the connection with your audience! Keep it up and keep inspiring us all! Thank you!!!!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha yes it's me! I was a bit worried about ruining the mystery, since I've been doing these videos for nearly 4 years now, but it's probably about time I changed it up, especially since I'm trying to streamline the editing process. So I'm happy it's being received well, thank you so much!
@agomishernandez
@agomishernandez 5 месяцев назад
The best videos about lighting on RU-vid
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Too kind - thank you so much!
@johnstewart3391
@johnstewart3391 5 месяцев назад
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thanks John, happy you enjoyed this one! :)
@katlis
@katlis 5 месяцев назад
Hitchcock's "Rear Window" first came to mind when I saw this. Hard stage lighting like they used in the olden days is a lost art. There's a great article about the lighting for that film in American Cinematographer.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Very happy it made you think of Rear Window! When we lit the old style shot, we both agreed it was more creatively satisfying to see played back than any "modern" shot we've set up recently - it's was like lighting for a film, rather than lighting for a recreation of reality in a film - if that makes sense. I enjoyed it massively! I'll have to hunt down the AC article!
@YeahWhiplash
@YeahWhiplash 5 месяцев назад
I've been interested in finding situations where I can utilize older or non traditional lighting to light a scene, great job making a video on a technique most newer cinematographers aren't familiar with.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Glad I could help - thank you! It's definitely super useful to know and understand these lighting patterns in a little more detail, so they can be utilised in a way to form a more cohesive feeling and/or narrative in an image - just going back over things like this has actually helped me understand a lot more too!
@ZvilgantisKailis
@ZvilgantisKailis 5 месяцев назад
You are getting more interesting and creative!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much, happy to hear that - a few more changes to come! :)
@tomascock
@tomascock 3 месяца назад
Dear brother, there are many people from the CIS countries, including Russia and Kazakhstan, who are watching your content. It would be great if you could provide a course with private access via a RU-vid link, so that they could access it easily. In Russia, the browser has a built-in translation tool, which would make it easier for them to understand your content.
@CastlesForEyes
@CastlesForEyes 5 месяцев назад
Great piece of info. Thanks.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Happy it was useful - thank you!!
@Visethelegend
@Visethelegend 5 месяцев назад
Yo that intro was smooth af. Love your content
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!! I was actually worried the idea wouldn’t translate well to the screen but it worked out much smoother than I expected so I’m well happy with it haha!
@pjtavera
@pjtavera 5 месяцев назад
Valuable Cinematography Learnings! Thank you Rob.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Always appreciated - thank you! :)
@gerardoornelas1319
@gerardoornelas1319 5 месяцев назад
YEAAH HE IS BACK 👌
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Woo! Hope you enjoyed this one! :)
@SeniorAdrian
@SeniorAdrian 5 месяцев назад
Top tier lesson. Thank you. Subbed.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Super happy you enjoyed it/found it useful - thank you so much for your support!
@Vitaphone
@Vitaphone 5 месяцев назад
As always another video of top quality, thanks Rob!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed this one! Thank you so much! :)
@Vitaphone
@Vitaphone 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer always happy to drive engagement for the algo, left you a more elaborate comment on patreon!
@shueibdahir
@shueibdahir 5 месяцев назад
I've been checking up on the channel waiting for a new video to come out. Haven't clicked a video faster than this in a while
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Apologies for the wait and I hope you enjoyed this one!! :)
@brhyamrojas1877
@brhyamrojas1877 5 месяцев назад
The best intro i've seen!!!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!!
@imDonDiestro
@imDonDiestro 5 месяцев назад
You’re goated bro lol. Love your videos
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Always appreciate it man, I’m happy you’re still enjoying them!
@gee9656
@gee9656 5 месяцев назад
Missed your videos Rob, thanks for another great one!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Always appreciated, thank you so much! Currently trying to figure out a way to speed the production of these videos up a little (without losing the important info) so hopefully you won't have to wait so long next time!
@gee9656
@gee9656 5 месяцев назад
No pressure! It's always a good day when a Rob Ellis video drops.@@RobEllisCinematographer
@steeezefb
@steeezefb 5 месяцев назад
This is sooooo Scott!!!! ❤️
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
You’re the Scottest!!! ❤️
@noahjstein
@noahjstein 5 месяцев назад
this is very helpful for my work, thank you!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Amazing to hear that and glad I could help! :)
@r.a.mpictures
@r.a.mpictures 4 месяца назад
Your videos are honestly so informative 👏 I was wondering if you could... if you haven't already, do a Dehancer colour grading tutorial in DaVinci?
@szabolaszlo
@szabolaszlo 5 месяцев назад
I keep learning a lot from you! Thanks! Regards from Hungary!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Very happy to hear that - I appreciate it massively! Greetings from the UK! :)
@marcinzarod6612
@marcinzarod6612 5 месяцев назад
I don't know much about lighting, but I love to learn about movie craft. Great source and great explanation.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Always super happy to hear someone has enjoyed a video of mine regardless of previous lighting experience - it’s a huge compliment, thank you so much!
@owenwags
@owenwags 5 месяцев назад
Very good video!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Owen!!
@gillesvanleeuwen
@gillesvanleeuwen 5 месяцев назад
This one was real good.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Happy you enjoyed it - thank you! :)
@mrshaheedmalik
@mrshaheedmalik 5 месяцев назад
I've been watching Ron's videos so long that seeing him talk is jarring. 😂
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha it was jarring for me to watch back! 🤣
@natedagrrreat8248
@natedagrrreat8248 23 дня назад
I am SUBSCRIBED
@orakmoyaamitsira7581
@orakmoyaamitsira7581 5 месяцев назад
1:21 Much better audio! Glad you got that fixed
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Excellent, happy to hear it (literally) - I had a little mess around and utilised some of your advice, thank you so much for that! Just need to update the Patreon version!
@jassirhere9631
@jassirhere9631 5 месяцев назад
The intro was CRAZY
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! It turned out a lot smoother than I thought it would haha!
@mattabeln
@mattabeln 5 месяцев назад
First comment! Always look forward to a new video from Rob!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you Matt, hope you enjoyed this one! :)
@The_Daliban
@The_Daliban 5 месяцев назад
The boys are back❤️
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
They certainly are! ❤️ Hope you enjoyed this one! :)
@The_Daliban
@The_Daliban 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer definitely! The transition from black and white to color with the room changing in mood was genius. Time travel transition,love it. Amazing video!👍🏻
@benjamin.kelley
@benjamin.kelley 5 месяцев назад
I can always depend on Rob to give me a good grimace.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha happy to provide it!
@remyarcher4641
@remyarcher4641 5 месяцев назад
Love your work and your breakdowns Rob! I was wondering if you could describe the boomed lantern rig for the external street scene? What light, boom pole, power solution are you using? I’ve been wanting to build one of these for a while and that yours looked great!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much, happy you're enjoying them! That was a Nanlite Forza 60C with NPF battery grip, in a Nanlite FMM 60 lantern softbox - however, the "boom" was actually just a light stand, which was a little awkward to hold - so I can't recommend that method haha. I would recommend a more specialised boom that can take the (lighter) weight of that setup!
@flochfitness
@flochfitness 5 месяцев назад
Let’s go!!!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Wooo! Thanks Sean!
@CANNOTDIEFILMS
@CANNOTDIEFILMS 5 месяцев назад
Best RU-vid cinematographer out there. Good stuff man. Quick question: what WB do you use when using those 3200K lights? 7:27
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!! I believe the camera was around 4000K for a little warmth, but I also introduced some cooler tones into the shadows!
@VisualDanny
@VisualDanny 5 месяцев назад
top notch as always! could you add what softbox and arm you used in 5:20?
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I say boom, but it was actually just a light stand raised up a bit - it was a little awkward, wouldn’t recommend, hence referring to it as a boom 🤣 the softbox is the Nanlite FMM 60 lantern softbox, with a Forza 60C inside (with NPF battery attachment)!
@CoffeewithCrew
@CoffeewithCrew 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video! Ever since BSC Expo with the "evolution of lighting" panel I've been wondering whether the old styles of lighting designed for 32 ASA cameras still have a place being replicated and built off of for the modern day.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Very glad I could provide something you were looking for and I’m happy you enjoyed it! It sounds like that panel was an interesting one!
@mineraljunction
@mineraljunction 5 месяцев назад
you are the goat
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Appreciate it - hope you're enjoying/find the videos useful!
@imhaidee
@imhaidee 5 месяцев назад
I'm always waiting for your new videos like a fix :D
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha I’m happy you’re enjoying them so much - thank you so much! :)
@mattbradbury
@mattbradbury 5 месяцев назад
Great video! Not saying this to be a smart-arse but in the spirit of telling a mate they have food in their beard! Dietrich is pronounced more like “Dee-trick”
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha no not at all - I tried to find the pronunciation to ensure accuracy and went with the first one I found, which wasn’t a very accurate thing to do at all 🤣 I appreciate it, thank you for letting me know!
@nordfilmcompany
@nordfilmcompany 5 месяцев назад
View to like ratio is out of this world👊
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I don't know what a good ratio is haha! But I'll take your word for it! Thank you so much!
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem 5 месяцев назад
It was pretty shocking seeing you talking directly, haha. You've became this mysterious figure over time. Impressive lighting technique explained perfectly by the master of light. 👏😉
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha I was just replying to another comment, mentioning I was a bit worried about ruining the mystery, but this will ultimately make things smoother for me in the edit - the bonus being that I can get a bit more creative with it this way! Thanks Bo, I always appreciate your kind words!
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer We eat whatever you throw at us and it always tastes good! I'm at Muscat International Film Festival this week competing with short documentary films, wish me luck😆
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
⁠@@Bo_Hazemthat’s awesome, good luck my friend!! I hope it goes well!
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks! I bottled it.🤣 But was my first attempt ever and being nominated is good and got to know plenty of great people.😁
@sora8537
@sora8537 5 месяцев назад
Nice!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@chrisbutler8856
@chrisbutler8856 5 месяцев назад
Amazing work as always. Any tips for the what color grading you did to get the old timey black and white image?
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Chris! That's Dehancer emulating Kodak Eastman Double X - with grain and bloom :) edit: also gate weave, film breath an a couple of scratches!!
@chrisbutler8856
@chrisbutler8856 4 месяца назад
Awesome thanks!@@RobEllisCinematographer
@seamusclips
@seamusclips 5 месяцев назад
Curious to how you are able to achieve the subtle shake of the video with the b&w film look. Something I have been unsuccessful in. Also fantastic video thank you for making this.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
All the film emulation is in Dehancer - they have a gate weave option to emulate the subtle movement of the film as it passes through camera/projector!
@niceguy7159
@niceguy7159 4 месяца назад
Any thoughts on newwer 660 rgb led pannels i thought of buying the gemini pannel but that was way out of budget
@westwolf117
@westwolf117 5 месяцев назад
The walking down the street shot looked really nice did you use your color meter to dial in the 60c?
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
That was just by eye - tweaked the colour temperature until it looked somewhat blended with the environment. You can see how green the actual street lights looked in comparison on his hair!
@wirybeard
@wirybeard 5 месяцев назад
Great work! At 7:28 when you mention the color temp for the lights being 3200k, what was the camera's white balance set to?
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! It was around 4000k to keep things a touch warmer, but I added a further touch of warmth to the mids and a bit of cool to the shadows in post!
@jakiniehoff447
@jakiniehoff447 5 месяцев назад
you are best
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@micahsmithmedia
@micahsmithmedia 5 месяцев назад
dang the first time i've seen you talk!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
More of that coming - I can get a bit more creative with the videos and it makes the edit way more efficient!
@micahsmithmedia
@micahsmithmedia 5 месяцев назад
love it@@RobEllisCinematographer
@uniworkhorse
@uniworkhorse 5 месяцев назад
No one: Rob Ellis: 🤫🧏‍♂️
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
🤣😁
@BillTettly-vc3hw
@BillTettly-vc3hw 5 месяцев назад
How did you get that film like contrasty black and white look? Lighting or filters? Most B & W movies now are more greyish
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
The lighting helps toward it as described in the video, but the colour grade was done in Dehancer - it’s an emulation of Kodak Eastman Double X film, with film grain and bloom added, along with gate weave (the emulation of the movement of the film as it passes through the camera/projector) and film breath (exposure and contrast changes between frames of film)
@mrstanislavski100
@mrstanislavski100 5 месяцев назад
Do you have more material,either old old book of OLD FILMMAKING TECHNIQUE ?
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately nothing I can recommend, but I'm sure there are lots of them!
@mrstanislavski100
@mrstanislavski100 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer I will reach then, thanks for answering. And thanks for all your good content. Greetings from Mexico City. Saludos
@TheTitanGen
@TheTitanGen 5 месяцев назад
what brand is your boom arm that is used?
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
It's from Essential Photo in the UK, a Pixapro - www.essentialphoto.co.uk/products/pixapro-super-heavy-duty-120-220cm-stainless-steel-boom-arm-with-sand-bag - I'm not sure if they have an equivalent brand overseas though!
@BFMwithStackhouse
@BFMwithStackhouse 2 месяца назад
But how did you get the effect at 0:52 where the light turns on and your face is lit with a completely dark background?????????????
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 2 месяца назад
Black background, grid on softbox :) that was also with a Pavoslim 120C from above!
@v-jakemultimedia577
@v-jakemultimedia577 5 месяцев назад
What temperture was the camera on? Thanks
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
It was around 4000k to keep things a touch warmer, but I added a further touch of warmth to the mids and a bit of cool to the shadows in post
@v-jakemultimedia577
@v-jakemultimedia577 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks man. Love your video's! Keep up the good work!
@jamesburton1050
@jamesburton1050 5 месяцев назад
He has a face! Yay! 😁😉
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha you’ve been looking at it this whole time! 😀
@jamesburton1050
@jamesburton1050 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer I just didn't know. 😁🤷
@lolkenen6249
@lolkenen6249 4 месяца назад
i thought that was an actor you used in your videos, not you 🤯🤯
@BigBlobProductions
@BigBlobProductions 5 месяцев назад
People really need to learn about more cinematographers than just Roger Deakins. Everything looks the same nowadays
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I think being inspired by a particular artist is a lot of people’s starting point in art, but eventually you develop your own look through a wide array of influences - it’s a natural progression that can exist throughout all creative practises!
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 5 месяцев назад
It makes me wonder... I wonder how much of the old school look is essentially a product of recreating the look of giant flashbulbs mounted above an old press photo camera.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I guess that was probably a logical thinking process when it came to lighting film in the early days!
@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss
@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss 5 месяцев назад
I did not expect your voice to sound like that. I thought you would sound more like a cowboy!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Haha I hope it wasn’t too disappointing, I’d much rather sound like a cowboy!
@MuhammadFloyd
@MuhammadFloyd 5 месяцев назад
was never sure if he used another model or himself lol
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
I’ve ruined the mystery haha!
@coolbluesky4078
@coolbluesky4078 5 месяцев назад
bro mogged us
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
What does this mean?! 🤣
@azeezbindohry3641
@azeezbindohry3641 4 месяца назад
❤❤❤❤🙏🏻👍
@ErnestoSosa
@ErnestoSosa 5 месяцев назад
My girlfriend was helping me set up lighting for a scene and I asked her to set up a hair light for me like in the Rob Ellis video. She said, "Who?". I broke up with her.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Hahaha I wish I could give awards to the funniest comments! 🤣🤣
@GregorPQ
@GregorPQ 5 месяцев назад
They also had hairlight, as you can see very visibly @2:49.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Indeed, but I've already made a video on hair light in this series haha - so the focus is on butterfly/paramount!
@GregorPQ
@GregorPQ 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer Ah! Hollywood had both;)
@tennoio1392
@tennoio1392 5 месяцев назад
I would like to see more stylized lighting in movies. Going for realism is so boring.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Trends tend to shift over time so maybe stylized will become the norm at some point in the future!
@Dr_LanMan
@Dr_LanMan 5 месяцев назад
Wow I didn't think that was your voice, now it seems obvious
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
It is indeed! A little more well spoken than my off camera voice though haha
@eldaniskender
@eldaniskender 4 месяца назад
This is what I looking for 😇the best lighting channel 🫶🏻
@CharmingNewSociety
@CharmingNewSociety 5 месяцев назад
"Telling a story with contemporary themes requires contemporary lighting." I couldn't disagree more with this sentiment.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
Maybe “benefits from” would have been a better term than “requires” - but let’s talk about it, I’m curious to know your thoughts!
@CharmingNewSociety
@CharmingNewSociety 5 месяцев назад
@@RobEllisCinematographer That's fair. And I just feel like too many people take these kind of notions as "rules" when they hear them. Also I think filmmaking, and media in general, is becoming too intertextual as a whole. This idea that certain types of films or films of certain themes have to have certain types of looks to signify what kind of film they are (ie. they need to look like similar films).
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 5 месяцев назад
@@CharmingNewSociety Absolutely, and I don't take the fact that I'm an "influencer" lightly (I also hate that term because of the negative connotations attached haha) I'm very aware of bigger channels than mine doling out incorrect information/rules as fact - and I always strive to research, test and be able to back things up, so that I can try as best as I can to not be a part of the spreading of misinformation - or just as importantly, and probably more relevant to this conversation, the hampering of creativity and the freedom of art and expression. It's all a balance between rules and intent and creative expression, and that can be difficult to convey in a relatively straight forward 8 minute tutorial! But I think we're on the same page in regards to the visual language of a film and that it can be so much more than just a derivative look signifying a theme - but understanding the base reasoning as to why a look might subconsciously emphasise certain feelings and to build on it from there with your own creative reasoning, is kind of what I try to explain in these videos. Sorry for the long essay to explain that yes, I agree with you! Haha!
@ojacobsen3727
@ojacobsen3727 3 месяца назад
c'mon man it's pronounced Marlene Dee-trich.
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