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Madras 1984 - Question #2 from Question & Answer Meeting #2
'How can we gather our entire energy to see 'what is'?'
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@discordlivlua
@discordlivlua 5 лет назад
Hello sir,is there a text version of the video?,Thank you in advance.
@KFoundation
@KFoundation 5 лет назад
Question : We are unable to see the crisis in our lives with all our senses as you put it. Consequently, we are in endless misery. How can we gather our entire energy and see "what is"? K : Right - This is the question. You have understood the question? Why do you say "as you put it"? Why are you concerned what the speaker has said? You understand? What is important is what you think and what you feel. Burn all the books including the speaker's and look. The question here is: We have crisises in our lives and we are unable to solve them or meet them correctly and so we are in endless misery. How can we gather this tremendous energy necessary to meet this crisis? Do you understand - that's the question. Where is the crisis - Crisis economically, socially, politically, religiously? Is it out there or in us? Where is the crisis? Look tell me. We like to think that crisis is out there. Audience : The crisis is only in our mind, I think so. K : Yes sir, that is in your own consciousness, in your own (being)? first. Is that so? You understand. We say, no it is not out there. So, where is it? If it is not out there, it must be in you. Therefore, you are the crisis. Right? Do you accept that? You as a human being are the real crisis, not politics, not war, not the crisis in business or in technology or in chemistry, but you as a human being are the crisis. Audience : ................ K : Have you listened to what I said sir - I am not trying to suppress you sir, I ask you a question, which is : Is the crisis in you or in the world outside there? If it is in you, you are the crisis. See that sir. For god's sake. Human beings are the crisis. Audience : The absence of human beings will solve the crisis. K : Absence of human beings? It is a clever remark. You are not facing the fact. See how you... What am I to do sirs? The crisis is both in the world and in us. The crisis in the world we have created it. So it is a crisis outwardly and inwardly and the outer crisis is the product of human beings, the result of politicians who represent the voters - not in the communist world, the totalitarian world, in the democratic world - the crisis is created by every human being in electing their presidents, their prime ministers their chief ministers and so on and so on. So, you as a human being are responsible for the immense crisis that we are facing. You may not want to look at it. You say, no, no, it is happening somehow, I am not responsible for it. But each one of us is responsible for it. Right? Do you see the fact of it, do you see the truth of it? Do you? If you don't, the speaker can't do anything about it, but if you do, let us talk about it, let us investigate it. Not taking sides which means to investigate it you cannot have any prejudice, any bias, any opinion, a mind must be, a brain must be free of its prejudices to understand, to investigate. If the scientist is exploring matter, he cannot have preconceptions about it, he cannot have some conclusions about it. If he has, then his conclusions interfere with his investigation, right? So he must be free from conclusion to find out what is the matter. So, when I see the crisis is in us - we have made this world - not the nature, not the tree, thank god, not the tiger, not the deer - but we have made the social world, the world in which we live, competition all that is going on in the world. So the society in which you live is created by us. That society cannot be changed by legislation, by more and more and more laws, more and more lawyers, more and more better politicians. That society can be changed only by each one of us radically changing. That is a fact, If you don't want to change society, if you want to remain as you are, you are perfectly welcome, I am not inviting you. That's what you are going to do when you leave this place. You may all shake your head, agree and say how marvellous everything is, but the moment you step out of the gate, you are back in your own world. So, the question is - what will make you change? You have suffered endlessly, you have had problems upon problems, pain upon pain, conflict, endless, what will make you change all that? More reward, more punishment, more help and more heaven - all that has been offered before, but you have not changed. I don't know why I don't see you that is so. So what will you do to change? So you ask how am I, tell me, how am I to change. So which means what? You want a system to help you to change. Right? Have you noticed that all systems, all systems - whether democratic system, communist system, religious system, the system of meditation inherently contain in themselves degeneration. Right - have you noticed this? All systems, don't say my system is different. All systems contain in themselves a wastage of energy, which is entropy. We are using a scientific word. So the question is; how to gather, not how, is it possible to gather all your energy and face the - face something. How do you get - the questioner says, in what manner - you all getting tired? I see people yawning. Sorry. If you are tired I will stop. I don't mind. I am not insulted. If you are interested we will go on. Go on with your question not just let me talk and you just shake your head. Question-back and forth in what manner can I gather this energy which I am wasting not sexual energy, energy which I need to face this crisis which I have created. You understand? And the questioner quotes the speaker saying that we must use all our senses. Now, we are going to discuss that for a little. Question and answer - I don't tell you and you don't tell me. We question each other. So there is no authority, there is no disciple, there is no follower. We question each other. We use only partially our senses. Right? That's a fact. Either you hear only with your ears, but you don't listen. Right? See the difference? I hear what you are saying but I don't listen to the depth of what you are saying, which is, I listen and the very listening is bringing a change. But if you merely hear, it is passing wind, words. So we use partially our senses; we never use all our senses at the same moment. Right? Have you noticed this? Right? We never use all our senses. Which means, we never are completely attentive, completely giving all our attention - which I am doing now and you are not doing it; do you understand? That is when I use all my senses, when I look at something, there is that marvellous sea, wave upon wave, the blue waters. If you look at that sea with all your senses, there is no centre as the me looking, right sir? It is only the partial senses. Only when the partial senses are operating, there is this sense of me. Have you noticed that? Audience : Can all your senses listen to the birds noises? K : I am. I am listening to you with all my senses. You have said something, Sir. Can you listen to that bird attentively? Are you listening to that crow attentively? Audience : Yes sir. K : What does that mean? I must go on. You get dissipated. Q : What should it mean? K : I am just asking most respectfully: Have you ever looked at anything with all your senses? You have never done it. Q : Yes sir.............. Q : When we are looking at something we are also feeling it and all that. K : Sir, please just listen to this. I have put a question, which is have you listened or seen or felt with all your senses? Find out. I am not saying you have, or you have not. I say discover for yourself what it means to listen to that crow, to listen to your wife which is must more important than the crow. (Laughter), listen to your husband and listen with all your energy, which means all your senses alert. Not sexually Sir - senses - not merely sensory response, but the whole totality of your energy. One has probably never done it. I am not criticising, I am not telling you you are not done it, but probably you have not done it and if you do it, then you will discover something extraordinary for yourself. For that moment there is completely no problem, no conflict, because you are so tremendously alive, tremendously attentive. It is only not being able to attend that creates the problem, but if you are attentive to what you say, to what you think and see the division between your thinking and your action, say one thing and do another which you are all so beautifully trained. Q : A man has been starving for many days. Is it possible for him to put all his senses? K : Of course not sir, Have you, are you putting - don't bother that man who has not had enough food. You see how - to - that is a wastage of energy. He is talking about a man who has had no food for three days whereas you are the crisis not that poor chap. So, sir, first discover for yourself how we waste our energy, chattering, endless, chattering, talking endlessly about Gita, philosophy, what the Buddha said and the ....... - chattering, chattering, chattering, quarreling, conflict, struggle. All that is a wastage of energy. When all that stops, you have a tremendous energy and the brain becomes extraordinarily alive, not dead, and so to have this tremendous energy, which is to have passion, not lust, passion. You require a great deal of enquiry, not separate action from what you think and what you feel, so that we live a life that is healthy, sane, normal and go beyond that.
@discordlivlua
@discordlivlua 5 лет назад
@@KFoundation Thank you very much Sir.
@mlsaraswati5545
@mlsaraswati5545 3 года назад
Thank you very much for the great text . 🙏🙏🙏
@ramharappan4225
@ramharappan4225 2 года назад
@@KFoundation thank you 🙏 for the text.
@oliverkalali
@oliverkalali 5 лет назад
how casually interactive is the meeting with one of the greatest human being who's ever lived on this planet. how I envy being there...
@georgekyle165
@georgekyle165 2 года назад
you are him
@meetmody6202
@meetmody6202 6 месяцев назад
J is a gold mine of wisdom
@kevinisawake
@kevinisawake Год назад
Krishnamurti did indeed emphasize the idea that all systems involve a wasting of energy. He believed that any system, whether it is a religious or political system, a scientific or psychological system, or even a personal system of belief or ideology, creates a framework that limits our perception and understanding of reality. This limitation, in turn, requires us to expend energy to maintain and defend the system, preventing us from using that energy to see things clearly and directly. In the case of meditation, Krishnamurti did not advocate for a particular system or method, but rather encouraged individuals to be aware of the tendency to turn meditation into a system or technique. He believed that meditation should be approached as a process of inquiry and self-discovery, rather than as a means to achieve a particular outcome or state of mind. In this way, meditation can be a tool for freeing energy and allowing us to see things more clearly.
@JumpingRock-oo7br
@JumpingRock-oo7br Месяц назад
But sir how does one be aware with all senses it's almost impossible in day to day life unless there's an physical danger that can kill you other that that your body is calm and the state he talks about I think is adrenaline the heightened awareness state
@arunimakar7796
@arunimakar7796 4 года назад
When you use all your senses to feel something you become that, it feels alive.
@Nxt_View
@Nxt_View 3 года назад
Such a genius
@Gaurav.P0
@Gaurav.P0 2 года назад
Beautiful video 😍
@shantak1277
@shantak1277 Год назад
I’ve always wondered how to give attention with all of our energy. Because when I try, it never works. But occasionally I may have experienced it. I’m not sure if that’s what it is. And when it happens, the “me” is not there. Just seeing, listening. There is a sense of beauty and calmness that comes when this happens. Maybe it happens when you suddenly let go all your thoughts unconsciously. I dunno. It usually comes naturally, when I don’t invite it or make any effort.
@yogendrasinghraghuwanshi1660
How great you are as human being as ever born.
@jnananinja7436
@jnananinja7436 3 года назад
Thank you sir. This was a most helpful journey taken together. 💛
@darshg3283
@darshg3283 2 года назад
He’s saying you’ll discover “What is” when there’s no center. When your not listening from your point but you’re listening from the whole totality. It’s hard to comprehend but it’s possible.
@AnthonyHoward-ru8su
@AnthonyHoward-ru8su Год назад
I would like to be able to use the wisdom that Krishnamurti shares but I am still only understanding the message intellectually without having had the deep insight that would allow that wisdom to be able to assist others
@selvamthiagarajan8152
@selvamthiagarajan8152 3 года назад
Crows cawing in the background is the signature soundtrack to JK’s talks. Did you know crows (more than one) cawing symbolises harmony, good health, good fortune and prosperity.
@hintergedankee
@hintergedankee 3 года назад
K was against ideas or symbols and always talked about facts and here you are trying to symbolise the cawing 😂
@georgekyle165
@georgekyle165 2 года назад
@@hintergedankee everyone in the comment is symbolising about him.. him being a great person etc etc
@lucreziamorganti9115
@lucreziamorganti9115 Год назад
Thank you 🙏 ❤
@AV-qb6bf
@AV-qb6bf 5 лет назад
We create crisis and misery and we suffer from it. We create our own prison and ask others for liberation. We live superficial lives which is the whole wastage of energy. If we can put all energy into finding our true being (all senses, mind & matter), then we can transcend our ordinary human lives into higher conciousness and come out of all conflicts.
@mariappankarthikeyan3311
@mariappankarthikeyan3311 5 лет назад
Yes if we understand the prison , the understanding liberates not the effort to be
@johnthomas6050
@johnthomas6050 4 года назад
Anita V Well said 👍
@surindersingh-uq4vl
@surindersingh-uq4vl 3 года назад
Great remark.
@lohanmuthu6341
@lohanmuthu6341 5 лет назад
Thank you sir... Share this beautiful video...
@mayaciza8337
@mayaciza8337 3 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@عبدالرحمن-ظ4خ7ط
@عبدالرحمن-ظ4خ7ط 5 лет назад
Hi all the videos Krishnamurti beautiful and I hope you will be Arabic in all videos Crashnamurti if you can and thank you for your efforts
@ajitabh04
@ajitabh04 3 года назад
I have done this many times and at that moment I feel tremendous flow of energy coming from deep inside but that last only for 4-5 minutes. I guess I have to gather more energy to reach at the level of him oh dear God 🥴
@dragonboy4001
@dragonboy4001 3 года назад
😂😝
@inspiregrow2336
@inspiregrow2336 2 года назад
What have u done
@Marci92xyz
@Marci92xyz 10 месяцев назад
Open the floodgates!!
@leenapatil3062
@leenapatil3062 7 месяцев назад
How can done this ?
@errol-ih4jy
@errol-ih4jy Год назад
I GET IT K. R.I.P.
@img008
@img008 Год назад
He lived in peace and psychosocially died in peace everyday his body lived
@GauravKumar-xu1hc
@GauravKumar-xu1hc 5 лет назад
Is their anybody who watched this great man face to face and listened his speech?
@prasadmulupuri8714
@prasadmulupuri8714 5 лет назад
Yes, sir. I did. There must be many more, though it is a diminishing tribe.
@hemantkhare5545
@hemantkhare5545 2 года назад
@@prasadmulupuri8714 what good fortune you had sir !
@yogendrasinghraghuwanshi1660
What would you do with him if only you have understood the words this greatest genius had tunnelled into our limited sphere of intellectual faculty!!!
@ganeshramamurthi9663
@ganeshramamurthi9663 Месяц назад
I have listened to him in person way back in 1983 when i was a college student but could not understand anything...now also only trying to understand
@vegetallove9335
@vegetallove9335 3 года назад
🙏❤️
@AndreasDelleske
@AndreasDelleske 2 года назад
40 years later, same crisis but much worsened.
@milton8586
@milton8586 Год назад
What’s your point? What have you done to change anything?
@sandeepuniyal6164
@sandeepuniyal6164 5 лет назад
🌷👏👏
@yohenson
@yohenson 3 года назад
But to attend with full energy means it has your complete interest. Like love. But that doesn’t happen artificially. That’s spontaneous. So he says to just harness it artificially? To get love? That don’t seem to go both ways.
@drharisht.k.1871
@drharisht.k.1871 5 лет назад
From 12:40.....
@milton8586
@milton8586 Год назад
13:41… not 12:40
@michaeldanielson3098
@michaeldanielson3098 5 лет назад
If we do not engage in conflict we can use all our senses at once? Is this the lesson?
@radupascariu4670
@radupascariu4670 5 лет назад
you have to listen like when you are listening to a small child tell you a story.
@ebor284
@ebor284 5 лет назад
Does it mean that there is no place for anything else?
@SudhirDudeja
@SudhirDudeja 3 года назад
Possibly
@punitawasthi3138
@punitawasthi3138 9 месяцев назад
​@@ebor284 yes But only pure attention devoid of thoughts 🧐
@amitkalra9254
@amitkalra9254 3 года назад
Pl add English subtitles
@KFoundation
@KFoundation 3 года назад
The full-length video has English subtitles available: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ss4aFCOYZq8.html
@sanekabc
@sanekabc 5 лет назад
How will I know if I am looking with all my senses?
@upendraverma
@upendraverma 5 лет назад
Testa when u are not there then you are looking with all senses. For ex: When u see a beautiful girl notice that at that very instant you don’t exist only the girl you are seeing. Be like tree which with all senses is looking at the sun rays, the water from soil there is no division between water sun rays and tree.☺️
@sanekabc
@sanekabc 5 лет назад
@@upendraverma Thank you, nice reply. The way K words it, it can be confusing. Someone might think that by using all their senses they should look, listen, touch and taste something simultaneously which is impossible if you are looking at a bird in the sky.
@hi5life233
@hi5life233 5 лет назад
Observation without thought
@sadiq0
@sadiq0 5 лет назад
Testa I can understand the confusion. But if you go to 18:20 he makes it clear. “Have you Listened OR Heard OR Felt with all your senses..” He is using OR not AND. What he means is that when you use one or more of your senses do you use it (them) partially or fully? If thought comes in with past remembrances, social or religious conditionings, prejudices, then you are not using your sense(s) fully. You are then NOT completely attentive, obviously.
@prasadmulupuri8714
@prasadmulupuri8714 5 лет назад
When there is no thought, no opinion, no comparison, probably, you are looking with all your senses.
@arunvlog5601
@arunvlog5601 6 месяцев назад
Subtitle not correct
@Saveg36
@Saveg36 3 года назад
I still dont understand.
@MrTo1223
@MrTo1223 4 года назад
burn all the books!
@c.crowdz3866
@c.crowdz3866 5 лет назад
In other Words ITS all about your thinking your own mindset The Problems are Selfmade. Therefore dont worry be Happy is The solution
@doctordilanka
@doctordilanka 5 лет назад
Krishnamurti: The original Hakuna Matata
@sanekabc
@sanekabc 5 лет назад
That is a rather abstract question, don't you think? "Have you ever looked at anything with all your senses?" What does that mean?
@upendraverma
@upendraverma 5 лет назад
Testa -Brain is the division between “what is” and “how I want it to be”. See the tree which is drinking water from soil and drinking sun rays without any separation. It grows because there is no division. So “looking with all senses” means there is no division between “what is” and “what I want it to be” like a tree.😄
@upendraverma
@upendraverma 5 лет назад
karthik naidu “who is the doer?” This is more deep. If you have listened to K’s other talk there really is no self but desire/thought creates self when there is no thought there is no person. Like when you are in deep sleep/ see ur crush for first time or having sex and so on. I know it’s hard to digest but even I have started to feel it sometimes.
@katrhiknaidu1989
@katrhiknaidu1989 5 лет назад
@@upendraverma yes the very point of doer exists when there is a desire or something which is not. The mind hasn't been quite for a long: what I have observed … the more I am awake consciously.. the less I dreamt or I don't remember at all.
@GhoshA
@GhoshA 5 лет назад
😫😫😫😫😫😫
@Satyapalsinh.
@Satyapalsinh. 5 лет назад
to much information cause cancer....
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@foodtasty7622 2 года назад
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@carlavela7106 3 года назад
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