I wish I was there instead of the US. My Grandfather was Finnish. I have always wanted to go there. At least people could pronounce my name, Hemmila, lol. God bless you all.
I would stay in Sweden :) Comparing health care sectors, salaries in Finland are a bit lower and the work is more stressful typically. The medium salary mentioned on the video sounds high, not sure how it's calculated.
Great and informative video Oliver. This is also my plan to study in Finland as a nurse and I am happy my consultant referred me to Edunation. Coming soon in TAMK for studies.😊😊😊
Work in Ireland or UK instead. No need to study Finnish or go back to university. You just need to take an exam or a pre adaptation period/ clinical placement and you’ll be registered quick if you pass it. That simple. You’ll earn faster and you can move on right away.
The UK has very low salaries. I have lived there for 3 years and would not recommend it. Also, Scandinavian countries like Finland have a higher standard of living.
Hey! I am studying to be a special education teacher but in short you need to have a bachelor's and master's degree to be qualified to teach. You have to write a bachelor's thesis after you have studied 2,5 years. After that you study about year and half and start writing a master's thesis. Usually you study 5 year in uni so it is 3 + 2 years (bachelor + master degree). Hopefully this was somewhat helpful! :)
Thanks for the video! Could you please make a video about how a doctor from EU can come to work in Finland? My gf is doing her specialization in Italy and I'm looking for information about it for both erasmus and actual healthcare system work!
You are welcome! This has been on my desk for a long time and i finally got it done 😅. I hope that this answers most of your questions around the topic but do let me know if there are still some questions that were left unanswered.
I have to say that 3000€ average salary is kinda bs and it's annoying it's touted around. You can get that but you're gonna have to work a lot of weekends, evenings & nights and get the extras from those unwanted shifts. If you work only morning shift no way you're gonna get that salary unless you're in a supervisory position. Personally I know only 2 RNs who get that kinda base salary and they're supervisors for the whole ward. I would say base salary is 2200-2800€/m depending where you work, work experience & what position you're gonna work. Added to that is the compensation for evenings, nights, weekends and holidays.
Hey Jen and thanks so much for contributing to the conversation! This is really hard to hear and i do apologise if i gave a wrong picture of the potential salary range. Its really hard to find any public data on median salaries as they can fluctuate quite heavily depending on the place of work, the municipality, your experience and so many other things.. This is also why im also a bit confused about the data provided by Duunitori and the comments that i have received to this video so far. They tell quite a different story about the salaries. I would love it if you had an idea of why the numbers that HR companies provide differ so much from your personal experience. Again, thanks so much for the valuable feedback 👍
@@RoadtoFinnish The only thing I can think of is that Duunitori puts all the supervisory positions to the median as well. If you look at oikotie their median salary for RN is 2600€ which is more realistic. Oikotie has their own median for ward managers (3250€)and assistant ward manager (2920€). I also question if duunitori adds the compensation money for those unwanted shifts as well. They can have significant effect on your salary. Especially if you're someone that works those shifts a lot. I also blame media for touting that ridiculous monthly wage around. There are some who earn that but it's not easy work.
Oh right all of this would make so much sense. Damn it... i should have dug a bit deeper when researching the topic 🤦♂️. Its really hard to find good information about these kinds of specialised questions as there is already a lot of regulatory stuff that i had to look up when scripting the video. Again, i really appreciate the help. Ill definitely keep this in mind and also cite your sources when discussing this further in the comments and in future videos 👍
@@RoadtoFinnish 😁 I'll keep that in mind. I'm studying nursing so my knowledge comes mostly from there. Also Tes for nurses gives the actual salaries. My first source for salaries is Tes. Of course different places can have a bit different tes, or they have higher salary standard but you always get the minimum amount. Of course those salary negotiations are underway for next year. My prediction is that nurses are made to be greedy by the media once again. I'm definitely looking to work outside of Finland once I graduate.
Great video and information as always. I wouldn't suggest being a nurse in Finland, the pay rate and respect you get is very little in society. You earn little more or nothing for the experience you obtain in your career. My fiance is a nurse of 10 years+ from Finland who is looking at changing industries. Healthcare isn't FREE in Finland it's just state-controlled and you pay for it through taxes which is actually a good system as you can all get care if needed. Level 1 base salary is 2375.71 euro. Based no experience and no penalties. Depending on task. The 3000+ euro would be the average including penalties if you work night shift and holidays.
Such pay is pretty bad, when compared to the median of 5000+ euro after tax where I come from, and nurses are not considered inferior to doctors there.
My wife is a nurse in Finland and she is already looking for a way out. Hard job at low pay with scheduling that's not that great. Her little sister worked for Lidil and was promoted to assistant manager and now makes more than my wife and has the afternoon off and holidays.
Thanks for the great and informative video, Oliver. By the way I want to ask that Im planning to study and get a Software Engineering degree from my native country (Vietnam) which is not in EU or EEA. After graduating in my country, I want to get a job in Finland with that degree and work there long-term. I hope I could get some advice from you like if this is possible or how difficult will the process or paperwork will be. Thanks in advance.
Hi sir. I completed diploma in nursing in Pakistan. Now I want to further study in Finland. Please guide me what will be required in documentation and what about fee structure and also how much years time will be required after diploma in nursing. Please guide me. Thank you ❣️
Thank you. Ive been using English as my main study and work language for over 10 years now, and Ive been studying English since third grade. Its just practice, practice, practice :).
I have a Master’s in Public Health degree. Hopefully, I will get admitted in Human Nutrition program at Unversity of Helsinki in spring. Can I get registered and work as a Nurse
I could do a video on the topic but i would need a bit more specific questions to get started. IT is a large field with a billion different opportunities so its impossible to make a generalised video about the topic 😅
Hello! Do you think you could help me with some info regarding starting medical residency in Finland as an EU citizen? Valvira does not make it clear if those 6 compulsory months of working in the Finnish healthcare system will be paid or not :) . Thank u in advance!!!
Well, this university of applied science is the place where my finnish partner study. But, how about the opportunity of others proffesion besides nurse in Finland ? Forgive me if it's out of topic🙏
Thats so cool to hear! Metropolia is a great school 👍. In terms of other professions - i would love to make more of videos like these but i would need to first know what kind of fields people are looking to study in Finland. Nursing has been a really popular question in the comments during the last two years so thats why i started with this 🙂
@@RoadtoFinnish Hi Oliver, how about Physical Therapist? Can you make a video regarding on how to become a PT? Is there a pathway regarding this course?
Hello I'm from India . I have done B. Sc nursing with 58% and i want to go in Finland for my mastar degree. What requirements neend from India? Reply me plz
What is the demand for psycology counsellers who have a bachelor degree in his home country and graduate as a masters student from a finnish university with a finnish language skills.
Hey and thanks for the great question. Its pretty hard for me to comment on a bachelors degree completed outside of Finland BUT my gut feeling tells me that it will have no impact on the demand if you have done your masters in Finland and you speak Finnish. However, what i can say is that applying to a master's degree in psychology based on a bachelor's degree completed abroad is not easy. Here is a detailed breakdown of the topic that i compiled last year after calling multiple universities as well as the Finnish Psychological Association about the topic: **Bachelors degree programmes in psychology in Finland** There are no English taught bachelors level programmes in psychology in Finland. **Applying for a programme in psychology in Finland** First of all, I found that Finnish universities have a very small number of positions for students who apply directly to a Master’s programme. Instead, the clear majority of Master’s students are admitted automatically when they graduate from their Bachelor’s programme. This is normal practice in Finland because we usually don’t have to separately apply for a Master’s programme. Rather, when admitted to a Bachelor’s programme, we are automatically granted the permission to do a Master’s as long as we do finish the Bachelor’s within a predetermined time period. An issue with both the Master’s and Bachelor’s programmes is that both require you to pass an entrance exam that is same for all applicants across the country and for both degrees. Since the exam is the same for both Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees, and because there are more spots for the Bachelor’s programme, my contact in the Finnish Psychological Association suggested applying for a Bachelor’s degree. This simply increases your chances to get in. The second issue is that this entrance exam can only be done in Finnish or Swedish. This entrance exam is based on materials that are published one month before the exam so you don’t have much time to prepare (this timeline might have changed since last year). The biggest problem, however, is that even if you were able to study Finnish to an acceptable level, you are competing over the same spots with Finnish applicants who have an advantage in being native speakers. In order to even apply for a degree, you need to be able to prove your language skills with an official test. You can do this in multiple ways, but id guess the easiest for you would be to complete an International Baccalaureate (IB) degree where you have achieved one of the following: → Finnish language studies (A1) with a minimum score of 2 → Finnish language studies (A2) with a minimum score of 5 → Finnish language A studies (with one of the following: literature | language and literature | literature and performance) with a minimum score of 2 Good to note that even if you pass these language requirements, it does not guarantee that you are able to study the material for the exam efficiently as interpreting and understanding the material requires deep understanding of the Finnish language as well as the subject matter. **Moving from Bachelor’s to Master’s** As mentioned above, after completing your Finnish Bachelor’s degree, you are entitled to start studying your Master’s without any other certification. This is common practice in Finland across most degrees (there are some exceptions in medicine where you have a mandatory internship between the degrees). Problems come if you have a Bachelor’s degree that is completed abroad. In order to do your Master’s degree in Finland, you need to complete 60 ECTS worth of basic psychology studies that are equivalent to those done in Finland. If your courses do not fufill these criteria, you might have to redo some studies in a Finnish university (this is also why my contact recommended applying for a Bachelor’s degree). **Practicing after graduation** Psychology is a regulated profession in Finland and it requires a Master’s degree completed in Finland before you can legally practice the profession. This certification is issued to all Master’s graduates and it does not require any extra certifications. Again, issues might come up if you have a Master’s degree from abroad. The issue is once again the local criteria that need to be matched. If your degree does not match the Finnish criteria, you have to take some extra studies + an adaptive training period that prepares you for the Finnish health care system. **Some thoughts from my contact** In addition to the previous info, my contact at the Finnish Psychological Association told me that she does not know any foreign psychology students in Finland. This is simply because being admitted through the entrance exam is so difficult for any non-native speakers. She emphasised that passing the test is not impossible, but you really need to consider if its worth the effort. She also said that in her experience, being admitted to study psychology on a Masters level is much easier in other countries and she recommended looking at other options. This is a direct quote from the end of her email: “I don’t want to discourage him, but it’s a shame if he ends up applying year after year without ever being admitted.” **My thoughts** Im sorry if this feels discouraging, but based on all the information that I’ve received, I can’t personally recommend applying to study psychology in Finland UNLESS you are absolutely certain that you can pass the language requirements. Again, I don't want to discourage you but the problem is that at least currently, psychology as a profession is heavily regulated and its really hard to study it in Finland as an international student... 👆 please note that all of this information is from last year and some of the info might have changed and/or will change in the future so please do your own research on top of this information just to be sure. However, i hope that this gives you a good idea of the overall situation in this field.
@@RoadtoFinnish ya ya I knew that there are no psycology masters in finnish universities that taught in english. Actually my plan is to apply for a social science master like neuroscience, contemparay socities..... that are requierd a social science degree like psycology , sociology etc.... Also I noticed that in the contemparay societies mster we have to select a track among 5 study tracks.. In there I saw that social psycology track. So I am studying social psycology as a mejor in my bachelor. There for I am planning to apply for that masters while I am applying for other masters. Acctually my question was while I am stying a masters program like I mentioned above, Is there a chance to have a part time job related to counselling with my bachelors if i have a finnish language skills. I got the answer...oliver. Thanks brother.🙏
So without me so we want to be gone nurse we need to honestly everybody is not better way just honestly everybody know we the best thing ever because a nurse right
Finland is not known as a warm country. Do folks head South to the sunny Mediterranean once they receive their qualifications? Just curious. The days of darkness also affect some adversely.
Hey Daniel and thanks for the question! This would naturally be a personal question because everyone react to the winter on their own way. However, the general answer to your question is no. We do not have a problem with people moving abroad after getting their degree. In fact, most people in Finland love the seasons and the winter period (personally i think that the seasons are one of the best things about living in the Nordics). In addition, the Finnish welfare society makes it very hard to move to another country because you would most likely be worse of when it comes to most aspects of life. Again, as a disclaimer, this is a question for each individual but as a rule of thumb, we do not have any issues with people moving to a warmer climate after graduation. Id say that the most common reason for people to move abroad is in case they get a hugely attractive work opportunity from another country. However, the same could be said of any other country so Finland is not special in this aspect. I hope this answered your question 👍
@@RoadtoFinnish Thanks for responding. All of my grandparents and some great grandparents emigrated from there long ago to become loggers, miners and farmers. I guess it was not so good then.
Hi oliver .. i have a question .. is it possible study nursing in vocational school in finland ? for example apply it with Finest Future educational system in finland ? is it new system in finland?
Does gap year matter during admission? I completed by high school in 2018 and ever since I have been taking care of my family. I am an international student with excellent past academics. Please tell if I can take admission in nursing
Hey Mateusz and thanks for the question. Unfortunately i do not know the answer to this question. I tried to do a quick google search but didnt find anything useful. This does not mean that there are no options. Instead, i would need to do a bit more research but i unfortunately dont have the option to do that right now. I hope that you are able to find useful information from somewhere else.
Nurses here in Finland have a low salary compared to the cost of living, so I would not recommend working as one. Of course you can come here to work as a nurse, just saying that the salary will be low. Also Finland is taking in nurses from other countries that are willing to work for a low salary.
Can I get into metropolia bacholar of nursing degree aimed at immigrants through edunation? I'm an immigrant living in helsinki. I'm australian and Finnish. I have B1.1 Finnish language skills and English is my first language. I'm now studying merkonomi at helsinki business college but I want to doing nursing bacholars at metropolia in english with Finnish language schooling.
Hey Sam and thanks for the interesting question! I do not unfortunately know the answer to your question so i recommend that you contact edunation about these topics directly. They will know what to say 🙂. Also if/when you do this, make sure to say that i sent you.
It depends on the school. For example, Omnia requires A2.2. level Finnish language skills and B2 level English skills. You can read more about this on this website: www.omnia.fi/en/educations/practical-nurse-care-and-education-children-and-young-people
Dude, I like you and your videos. But I got confused when you said "cost of living in Finland is very low" ! please enlighten me 😂. One small info for you , A Finnish nurse with a Finnish background(white & blond) + Masters degree + management skills can be paid as high as 7000 euro/month before taxes, but for people who are reading this and are not pure Finns even with all those qualities mentioned + PHD + 20-25 years working experience you wont break the 4000 euro/month ceiling, you can try your whole life but it won't just work 😅. But to be honest Finland is still a good country to live in compared to many others, just you need to adapt/except some harsh truths of life 😉
Edunation is highly reliable :). Yes, the video is also sponsored by them but it would not be unless i trusted them 100%. They have been working with the Finnish department of education for years now and they are bound by a ton of regulation and rules regarding the way that the way that they do business. I can vouch for them any time 👍
Well if this would ever happen, you can make a complaint with the consumer union of finland: www.kuluttajaliitto.fi/en/ However, i dont see this ever happening. Edunation is a great company with awesome people behind it. Cheating just isnt a thing similarly in Finland as in other countries.
Hey Janica and thanks for the feedback, i do appreciate it 👍. This information is directly from Duunitori's survey so im wondering, is there something in those stats that i might not understand?
@@RoadtoFinnish Huomasin saman, kun taas oikotie.fi sivuilla luki sairaanhoitajien keskipalkan olevan n. 2600€, joka on lähempänä totuutta. Tosiaan vuoro- ja lisätyöllä ja ikä-/kokemuslisällä voi päästä päälle 3k, mutta esim. kuten minä päivätyötä tekevänä, niin jään useamman satasen alle tuon. Myös iltalehti tehnyt jutun tuosta olikohan 15.1.2020 ja vaikka on IL, niin kokemukseni mukaan pitää aika hyvin paikkaansa.
Yeah I'am a practical nurse, after a longish career my ground salary is around EUR 2600. I mainly take night shifts, with the bonuses I get EUR 3500+ before taxes.
Hey John and thanks for the question. Unfortunately i do not have the time to get back to everyone personally so most emails sent to me do not get an answer. I recommend that you ask your question here in the comments. Thats a better way to get a reply from me.
