How close is Moza R9 to Simucube 2 

The FFB Settings I use Road sensitivity to 9 Game FFB intensity 100% Maximum Speed of Steering 30% Mechanical Back to center 0% Mechanical Damping 0% Steering wheel inertia ratio 1100 Natural Inertia 150% Mechanical friction 10% Speed depended damping 0%

That calm voice, that authoritative manner, that straightforward script, those glorious visuals. I love this channel.

been using a simucube 2 pro now for over a year or so, its been a pleasure. We are at a stage now though where a direct drive cheap or expensive will deliver similar benefits, afterall they only have to deliver the game signal as fast as they can to your hands... the real advantages between the bases comes down to the software and power making mid corner forces much more immersive. as humans we are quite adept at adjusting to changes so i imagine going to an R9 from a simucube 2 pro would feel simply too weak at first but after a week or two of using it then it will be fine with no issues, switching back to a simucube 2 you will then find it too heavy but after a week suddenly its fine and you start understanding the benefits of more power again. when it comes to software i still think simucube offers the edge in refinement, being able to play with static force reduction means we can turn up the power for more detail without the arm killing strength mid corner, i think this is an amazing overlooked feature that more manufacturers should implement. With that said moza do offer some unique features of their own and i think that's a big positive, they need features to stand out and something like the frequency adjuster is just that. Some of the simucube/granite staff on forums have mentioned that filters adding a delay is somewhat of a myth and does not happen, im inclined to agree honestly because these things are so fast only a robot would be able to tell the difference... Its like saying ''hey the simucube is better because it uses a 22bit resolution encoder and the moza is 16bit, fanatec is 16bit, simagic is 18bit etc....'' YES technically on paper the simucube simply has better hardware, they are renowned for that overbuilt quality, but the reality of the situation is it would take a very special human being to be able to detect that resolution difference, only robots in a factory can tell the difference, they are industrial motors afterall. Its always nice to know there was no expense spared though. direct drives at this price now is excellent for everybody, it really is about time the belt wheels and cog wheels are put to bed, i think you really do get 80 percent of the DD experience with any of these lower end products, its still something of a nice surprise when you use a powerful motor though, the weight of the cars, the holding torque mid corner, the overall detail level gets a natural boost with more power but most would be very happy with an R9 i reckon. I think simagic are making the biggest splash in the market right now honestly, wheels dropping left and right from them, fast growing ecosystem, that is what should worry the likes of granite devices i think.

I've watched quite a few reviews on Moza but I was still super excited to see you have done one. Really glad to hear how much you like it. I'd like to upgrade to it some day. Can't wait to for your next video!

Don't you dare stop making these amazing videos! Thanks for your first thoughts on this Moza wheelbase and wheel. I hope they are a stayer in the Sim Racing Genre!

I have the R9 and was very surprised at how hot it got when the FFB was strong for a 1 hour race. Almost at the limit of "hot to touch". I asked Moza about this because I was concerned and their reply was: "Hello, you don't have to worry about the problem you mentioned. We have temperature control components inside to ensure that users will not be hurt and the equipment will not be damaged. Its specific working principle is to limit the torque output when the temperature reaches the set value to achieve the effect of cooling, and when the temperature is back to be normal, the torque output will return to the normal level." So it seems like it's not an issue. I've not noticed any detrimental effects from it like lack of FFB, all works fine. I've been very impressed.

Thank you for this! I just got my R9 this week, I was using a G25 before. After only a few hours experience, to me most sims feel best with damping/smoothing turned right down, to get very fast and detailed response from the base - but it seems like most people are recommending much higher damping and slowed turning speeds. Your comments on this have really reassured me that I can trust what I'm feeling! Thanks for all the detailed and well thought out explanations, your comments are really valuable!

This is a really well made video. I have no idea how i haven't seen this channel before! Well done!

the info u shared is so accurate to my experience as its my wheelbase for around 2 months, the stuff other youtube reviews said didnt match my experience at all. With that said today i had the big test on how it feels as in details of my car as i had an endurance race which i was the only person that didnt do a pitstop, the tyres got worn out badly and i felt what the car was doing so well and when i lose grip and all of that resulting me in a 24 second lead at the end of the race. I can highly recommend this wheelbase for the price it is.

I want to thank you for putting the time into creating such great content, and for this video in particular. After 3 years with a G29, I recently decided to invest in some "proper" sim gear, and this video helped me settle on the R9 and, due to delays with the ES wheel, the GS wheel. I've had them three weeks and am very happy. I am looking forward to learning more and more how to fine tune settings to get the best result for a given car in a given game, but I've already found some combinations and settings that really work. And I think there's just enough strength in the base to deliver a truly engaging and immersive experience up until control is truly lost, where a lack of additional torque may be an advantage. I've watched s number of your videos now, and am convinced of your sincerity, your passion for your sim racing is obvious. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Great review….I watch a lot of other sim racing you tubers, as we all do…but not a single one of them drives those cars like you do…you have the most believable videos of them all totally on the limit none can touch your videos👍 excellent stuff👏🏻

Ive read almost all the comments, serching for overheating issue, and i must say that there is something equally good as your rewiews, and that is the fact that you really respomd to comments...! You are doing a briliant work!❤️👌🥳💪

Thanks for convincing me to make the jump and get this wheel base. I am still on a belt driven Thrustmaster TX...and have been keeping my eye on this R9. Love how you compared it to the Simcube. Love your videos. Glad I subscribed...can see myself taking a lot of your advice.

Was looking to the answer to this comparison..glad you posted!

Great work as usual. Cheers!

Your videos are really amazing. Great voice in combination with the whole presentation.

Look forward to next review.

I love you man! you're so honest and you love what you do. You're great ! keep doing thess videos.

I just purchased a Moza R9, CRP Pedals, CS Wheel and a GS Wheel. I will keep the CS wheel until the RS v2 is released, than I will preorder that wheel, once it arrives sell it and keep the rs v2. I have a Fanatec CSL DD 8NM, GT3 v2 wheel and a standard GT wheel, with the CSL load cell pedal. I'm going to be interested in see the similarities and differences of both ecosystems. I feel this 8-10Nm range is the real sweet spot, I'm building these two sim rigs for me and my son to enjoy together. Really enjoy your videos - your content is just awesome, and is what I will be striving to achieve this winter season myself.

Great review and your cockpit looks super nice, like you are in a car. I just bought the R9 with the CRP pedals. I'm going to save your settings below as a test. I've been using the Logitech G923 for almost 2 years now, and I think the feedback just doesn't give me what I need to feel the car when racing, so I've upgraded. Thank you for your review!

Great review! Will give this a closer look, thanks so much for sharing!! Your rig is amazing!!!!!!!w

I am proud to say I am a owner of the Moza R9, the GS wheel and the SR-P Pedals. Coming from a thrusmaster TMX pro it is night and day. It took a little time to get use to it but I feel in love 🥰 with Moza. I find myself finding more time on track ( not saying you will get faster). For me I don't regret getting it. If you have any problems with your unit Moza will take of it for you as I've seen they do for others. As for getting hot, not to me , it gets warm never hot to where you can't touch it . Great content as always my man this could be your back up unit. Again I'm in love with Moza, call me a fan boy. Be blessed folks 🙏🏽 ✨️

I have never seen somebody go THAT hard on sim rig, its lovely

Congratulations on the fantastic video! Regarding the base heating, I had this problem in iracing until I disabled the "linear mode" option in the game. When I deactivated this option (which was supposed to be on when you have a DD), my base stopped clipping and never reached the temperatures it was reaching before. Thanks for the video and keep racing!

You're going to love the fsr wheel.

everytime i watch your videos on a stressed day feel so calm. and Moza have been on my radar for sometime, but i am also awaiting for the Thrustmaster DD. for now i have Fanatec DD2, it have done the job well for 2 years. and broke my wrist once, and almost took my thumb off. but lesson learned xD you are doing a great job :D

Because I’m Bulgarian, we are suspicious by nature 😂❤ Couldn’t say it any better! I’m really thankful for your reviews, subscriber for life! 🇧🇬🔝

Thanks for this great video! The R9 is my first DD, I've had a G29 for 8 years, and this blew me away! I struggled at first getting the correct feedback settings, but once dialed in, it was magic. I'm setting up a profile with your settings as well to see how it compares. 💪

Thanks for this information, us budget racers need all the information we can get, from trusted sources like you.

Thank you very much for your review, I am in the process of buying my first DD wheelbase and had my eye on the R9 with the GS wheel for a few weeks now. I was always worried it might not have enough power to be fun in the long run...but I think I will give it a go now :).

I've never experienced any overheating at all. The cube is cool as can be. Never been happier with a sim product. Moza also has the best customer service I've ever had with any company. I had an issue and they got back to me the same day or the next day, every time. They really bent over backwards to help me. You can tell that they really care about their customers and are making every effort to make us happy. Incredibly impressed with them thus far.

I never knew a fellow Bulgarian can be as passionate about SimRacing as you are , wow . Was thinking about getting the R9 as well , shame I don’t know anyone here in Plovdiv that has anything better than a G920 for me to try out , but when you can compare it to a Simucube that is really reassuring!

great video, ive had my R9 and GS up and running for about three weeks now. Its my first DD so I wasn't really sure what to expect. Ive averaged 0.5-1.0 seconds decrease in lap times. So for me its worth it. The only I am not so sure about is setting it up correctly to get the best feel that I want and need. Every time I say to myself that I will dedicate time to this, I just end up racing.....😂

What a great video I have the r9 and GS rim what a great combo I absolutely love acc and my god this coming from a t300 the difference is night and day I do find my arms getting tired in long races but I'm used to t300 power base gets slightly warm nothing alarming for me I'm going to give your settings a go soon just to clarify you have all in game settings on default great video and more products on the horizon including a open wheel rim with LCD panel display built in it looks stunning

Excellent comparison!

I love your Reviews

I measured mine after strong sessions, it goes up to just above 40c. It is hot, but it is to be expected when you see how compact this base is. And absolutely no issue, loss of strength or anything

great video! i have the csl dd with the boost kit and it works good enough for me. Maybe you should try it and make a video on it.

I got a R12 and R5 and absolutely love them both the R12 is phenomenal

I have had my R9 and GS wheel since April and not had any issues or over heating problems, I love my R9 and i don't think i need anything any stronger it dose the job just nice

I bought a Moza R9 because of the price and the good reviews. Moza customer support told me the encoder is a 15 bit hardware limited encoder, like in the R5. I wonder if the DD wheelbases with higher resolution would feel better?

ive had my r9 for about 6 months. its a great choice for most I think. Pair it with a light drift wheel and even more comes out

I had the same doubt when buying my first DD and settled on a VRS Direct Pro, right in the middle of those 2. I am quite happy with it too.

Just got my r9v2 besides the tiny bit of a “catch” in the center and sometimes oscillating if you let go this wheel is unreal for racing and especially drifting! 9nm is plenty of power unless you want to feel what no power steering is 😂 coming from a logitech g920. Thank you MOZA 🙏

Hey, great review I'm new to sim racing (100 hours Racing, 60 on ACC). Now using an older 2nd hand fanatic set (CSL). Would you recommend this set (G9) for me, I will play Iracing/ACC and GT3 mainly. Thanks

Thanks for the amazing review! I planing to have it,but I'm confused witch wheel to choose,I mostly racing in ACC GT3 (vr). Поздрави:)

Im looking to either buy a moza r9 v2 or a simagic alpha mini.. you did a review on both (absolutely amazing quality review videos btw) i drift primarily and i was curious on your opinion having used both? Durability, heat, which one better for drifting? What do you recomend?

Do you have good settings for the CSL DD? In ACC. And even further more. In the Aston.

Is it possible to get the Moza GS v2 USB wheel work with the Simucube 2 wheelbase?

Top Simracing channel🔥

Moza are doing what Thrustmaster and Logitech should have done 2 years ago.

2:38 that correction was insaneeee

What force feedback settings do you use in iRacing with the r9 wheel and base? Anything different from the defaults? I'd really like to try replicating someone's settings who knows what they are doing and then figuring out what I like/dislike from there. Thank you so much for charing your Pithouse settings.

Nice Review and awesome Cockpit

Здравей,благодаря за невероятните ревюта🙂Кое препоръчваш АLpha mini или Moza R9?

I have the R9 and GS wheel and I couldnt be happier, if you've never had a DD before, it's just awesome. Never had a problem with overheating, but I use 80% force. Great video, do you race RF2 ? If you do would you be willing to share settings? It's the one sim I cant quite get right, TIA.

I just got my R9 recently, I haven't been able to use it that much yet, but it feels good, stepping up from a Logitech G290. However, it makes noise when powered on, like it has dirty power delivery or some kind of coil whine (it's not the Bluetooth clicking noise) It seems fine other than that, probably just cheap electrical components. In a hour long session, mine doesn't seem to get any warmer than room temperature, but I keep it around 40-50% strength.

I really like ur vids . This 1 i watched a couple of time,s already 😅 Because im thinking of buying the r9 with the gs wheel. But in ur vid ur talking about the clipping in iraceing. Is that the same case in ACC? I play mainly acc . If so, should i than look for a base with more NM ?? Its hard with so many nice dd,s atm 😂😂. Keep up the great work

😘👍 you're right it's time to jump in the rig.

You can get the quick release from MOZA, basically change to any wheel rim you want, you can connect it standalone using usb , the original wheel connects via Bluetooth and receives power from the base, it is possible to use different wheels using the quick release , i ordered one as soon as i found a cheaper DD better than what the market can offer today , the R9 is the answer 👍

Great informative video , like aways !! (Vsichko nai dobro ! ) :) :P

Hello, awesome video like always, I have a little question, is it bad if my heel don't touch de baseplate when I'm braking hard ? it make the breaking less precise no ? same for the throttle sometimes what do you recommend ? thank you

Sounds like you know a lot about DD configurations for best details. Would be great if you could make a tutorial about how to configure your wheel’s feedback and what each setting means and does to help you with feeling the car and road

This is super surprising now I am torned. I have been saving money for a couple years so that I can afford a dd wheel and was set to get a simucube 2 pro. But after seeing this video I am so torned, while simucube is probably still slightly better compared to moza's r21 or r16, moza's wheels are so beautiful and much more affordable compared to simucube's offerings. Wow this video has given me a lot to think about, Thank you so much for the video. I've been waiting since I saw the r9 on your rig. Please keep doing what your doing, you are the best! EDIT: I got a Simucube 2 Pro and I love it 😁

Can I ask your simucube settings? Are you using base at 100% power or turn it down and use the auto tune for tm the forcefeedback in iracing?

Im more in the Drifting community and i love the R9 for the price its the best you can get atm and i cant wait for the future

Please try the Cammus wheel base, I really want to know your opinion about them :). Thank you for the review really enjoied it :D

I have been dreaming of putting myself into debt for a Simucube. This might have saved me a ton of cash. lol. I’m coming from an older G29. I’m sure the Moza will still blow my mind.

Can you use the R9 base with one of your usb wheels plugged directly into the PC? In other words do you have to use a Moza rim with the Moza base?

Im convinced

This looks like a pretty good wheel, probably the best in its range. It would be interesting to hear what your thoughts are when you go back to your simicube and how it feels. I personally like to have between 9 to 11 Nm of force as a nice range.

Have you tried the DD1? How do that compare?, & have you got any recomended settings for that? :)

I wonder if this overheating issue is limited to some units or just when using it at 100%; because I've heard quite a few people talk about it now, yet I've never experienced it myself. I use my wheelbase between 60-80% and even during this heat wave in Europe, when my top floor room temperature got around 34-36c, I never felt the base getting warm.

Nice review, I wanted to ask what is your opinion about the Fanatec GT DD Pro base, in comparison to the two bases you mentioned in the video, and if you have some settings to recommend to get that grip loss feeling you described, on the GT DD Pro wheelbase.

Great video as usual Mr. Legend!! But I have a question, how do you compare the Moza R9 to the Simagic alpha mini? And as usual I trust your personal experience so please share your opinion 😉

do you have a video on setting up a Simucube? You mention friction, damping, and reconstruction filters. Very interested in learning more.

Good stuff! Would you mind sharing your Pithouse iRacing settings? I would like to see and feel the difference.

You the man! Steliyan, could you please share with us your simucube profiler settings? Thank you

Thank you very much for this video, this has convinced me to give the Moza a try over the Fanatec. I never really wanted to get into the Fanatec eco system, but there was no real competition for the price until now. You are harcore racer and I appreciate the time it takes you to give a subjective review as you have done. Keep up the great work and thanks again.

In English “suede” is pronounced like “swayed.” It comes from the French word for Sweden. Always love your videos! Hope you don’t mind the English correction. You speak English so well, I thought you would want to know.

In my country moza r9 and simagic alpha mini is only $30 different .. alpha mini is higher but with 1 year warranty and the moza is not .. which one should i take im really confuse right now 😭😭😭😭

Yes, my base does overheat after about an hour or so of constant use. The detail doesn’t diminish but the weight about halves. If anyone has any ideas on how to keep it cool, that would be great. I’m still experimenting with the settings and will the pinned ones a try.

Great, video!!! I’m sure you get this question a lot but after all of your time with the R9, would you recommend the R9 or the alpha mini? And why?… ps I’m coming from a Fanatec CSL Wheel Base.

I have a MOZA R9 and run similar settings , 90% torque limit in the MOZA software , I have run up to about 2hours 30 mins at once with no heat issue, yes it gets hot but zero problems due to heat, MOZA is making it hard for other companies to justify costing twice as much , I have also used Moza’s customer service and have always received a response with in about 12 hours. The only bad thing I can say is as a consumer I have place 4 separate orders with MOZA and they are very slow to get the items out, my CRP pedals took 19 days to ship , Same with my R21 base, so if you order MOZA you will be happy with the product but patience is important

Is it any different to an alpha mini? Have you tried any alphas? Thanks

What would be your opinion on the Moza R9 vs the Simagic Alpha Mini? I have been leaning towards the Moza R9 for a while but I really like how Simagic offers a 300mm wheel with their GTS so it's a tough choice.

Awesome clip very informative. Would you in your own opinion be worth spending alot more for a vrs dd base or is the feedback that good that 20nm vs 9nm makes it not worth 2-3x the cost? Im coming now from a thrustmaster t300 base and I really dont like how little is being transfered to my hands via the wheel, all the big stuff is there but not the small much more important stuff. Sorry for a perhaps confusing question but you seem to know what you are talking about:) cheers and keep making awesome content

hi friend what you have on the right side is an air compressor? can i know the model? thanks too kind

Love your video!! I'm using Thrustmastter TX for few years, I wanna get in to DD world, and I'm looking for Simagic Mini / Moza R9 or fanatec dd, any suggestion or recommendation on those? Thank you😊

I have pre-ordered the R9 in Germany on caseking (exclusive reseller) , but since they had swindled with the delivery time and then lied to me further in support, I resigned from the purchase and also MOZA.... Then I bought the Simucube 2 pro with a cube controls wheel🎉 I didn’t regret it ❤

I would love to see your review/opinion of Simagic Alpha Mini and comparison to Moza r9 and Simucube 2.

i just got the current V2 versions of the R9 base and the GS wheel some days ago and i am simply loving the experience. if there is just one downside its that the shifter paddles on the wheel are a bit too loud, but one gets used to it tbh (putting in the small rubber thingies Moza put in the box to make it quieter is not an option for me because this takes away from the tactile feel). tbh, if you are right now in the market for a new wheelbase and wheel coming from a beltdriven one, then i dont see a strong enough reason not to go with Moza.

It'd be interesting if you get your hands on a simagic alpha mini + FX wheel to compare. From everything I've read, alpha mini > moza r9/csl dd, while not much difference between the csl dd vs moza r9, is more or less who you ask. For my first DD wheel, I'm eyeing the alpha mini, but I prefer the GS wheel over simagic's their GT4 and FX wheels, so I'm torn.

Hello, did you share your simucube 2 settings in the software and if so, by what name please?

Softer brakes, less force feedback, you are just becoming a wimp now 😂 I have to use damping for SC2 Pro as I’m too scared to not. Crashes, oscillations and losing oppo lock get scary with no damping! My SC is never noticeably warm that I’ve found. Cheers great vid :) 🍻

Hey man, I saw your video about the Simagic Alpha Mini and was thinking about saving to buy one. Now that you have reviewed the Moza R9 i am starting to think differently. I was convinced that you would absolutely destroy the Moza wheel compared to Simagic but i was suprised you actually loved it, so the quality of the wheel must be great! But still, what wheel do you think gives the better feeling overall? Also what rim (formula preferably) and pedals would you recommend to buy with them? I saw that Moza can adapt other wheels as well. I was personally thinking about the 2pedal set of simagic.

Hi, if you were to choose between the Moza R9 or Simagic Alpha Mini, which one would you recommend, and why? Thinking of upgrading my T300 to a DD. Thx!

so to confirm you have the nm set to 16 when the r9 is 9nm base this avoids clipping?

Hey what is ur go to wheel base I thought I wanted simucube but now I think I want the r12. I currently have a csl dd

been using it for 3 months...had one sudden switch off on Road America...It just became ultraweak..it was about 2 seconds...I had 100%FFB and 10NM on iRacing (it was probably too much)...Also have the GS wheel...Had some UX problems...I had engine switch on the joystick...when I lost control I have accidentaly switch off engine :D...also the Pit limiter button have no cap...so I accidentaly pushed it few times when I was catching a slide...I really dont like the plastic part on the handles...I love the Alcantara but it wears off a lot...it was just a list of my complains...Generaly I am happy with it :D