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Westwood Studios co-founder Louis Castle talks about the development of the classic RTS, Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun.
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“Dune 2 Atreides Mission 4, Part 1 (No commentary)” (David Montminy): • Dune 2 Atreides Missio...
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How Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun Solved Pathfinding | War Stories | Ars Technica
Video Credits:
“C&C Tiberian Sun - GDI Playthrough“ (erlNite): • C&C Tiberian Sun - GDI...
“Dune 2 Atreides Mission 4, Part 1 (No commentary)” (David Montminy): • Dune 2 Atreides Missio...
“Warcraft: Orcs & Humans Walkthrough | Human Level 12” (Katana): • Warcraft Orcs & Humans...
“Command & Conquer LONGPLAY (GDI Campaign) Tiberian Dawn” (EnjoythestruggleNI): • Command & Conquer LONG...
“Starcraft: Original - Episode I: Terran - Tutorial: Boot Camp” (MasterKD): • Starcraft: Original - ...
“Age of Empires - Glory of Greece Campaign - 4. Trojan War (Hardest, Fastest)“ (Rtheghost): • Age of Empires - Glory...
“Command & Conquer Renegade Longplay #1 (PC)” (TheFireball313): • Video
“C&C: Red Alert 2 - Yuri's Revenge - Allied Campaign #4 (NO COMMENTARY)” (OfficialMyidentityisRobert): • C&C: Red Alert 2 - Yur...

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@dr.strangelove6118 5 лет назад

We still remember you Westwood.

@SoccerBoyAP 5 лет назад

We miss you Westwood!!!

@ieuanhunt552 5 лет назад

Soon EA will join you. Not soon enough.

@ashmasterc 5 лет назад

@@ieuanhunt552 Not even close to joining.

@Kevin-finity 5 лет назад

Yeah!

@HarriJokinen 5 лет назад

KANE LIVES IN DEATH.

@gejnormcswipe8435 5 лет назад

*"Welcome back Commander"* Me: *lays down, tries not to cry, cries A LOT*

@jacksbob8746 5 лет назад

Gejnor Mcswipe EA challenge everything... hissss...

@UnworthyChicken 5 лет назад

This comment made me tear up

@MYSOULOFDOOM 5 лет назад

Ikr 😭

@NcrXnbi 5 лет назад

"Hold my napkins" *Cries harder* [ I miss westwood studios]

@tacticalear9601 5 лет назад

ZOMG

@xyph3r 4 года назад

"welcome back, commander" - we never left. after EA's engineers took over our base we've been sitting in a remote corner of the map with a lone soldier all these years, waiting for you guys to send us a fresh MCV as reinforcement.

@fuupdaass275 4 года назад

You mean lone soldier wandering the map looking for a crate with a mcu in it

@Omegatonboom 4 года назад

Shake a baby!! -Tanya

@danatronics9039 4 года назад

@@fuupdaass275 _Crate explodes_

@fuupdaass275 4 года назад

Crate always was something different but if you were ever that lone soldier it would be a new base

@ReX0o0 4 года назад

@@fuupdaass275 yeah, as long as it wouldn't explode

@IHIavok96 2 года назад

I really hope to see a Remaster of Tiberian Sun one day. Especially seeing how the remaster for the first one did good.

@Marc_Araujo 2 года назад

I think its high time That a C&C Remastered Collection II hits including Tiberian Sun, Firestorm, Red Alert 2, Yuri's Revenge...AND Renegade.

@Datan0de 5 лет назад

Don't think we didn't notice the scorpion on your shirt, Brother. KANE LIVES IN DEATH!

@chrisguemmer7748 5 лет назад

PEACE THROUGH POWER!!!!

@Bnr324 5 лет назад

KANE LIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

@dontblameme9468 5 лет назад

For the technology of peace!

@ohchinchindaisuke1927 5 лет назад

IN THE NAME OF KANE!

@omgsam7185 4 года назад

TIBERIUM IS THE FUTURE!

@warriorcrab1319 5 лет назад

C&C not having unit caps was one of the most glorious parts of the game, and one of the first features that come to mind. Thanks.

@requestcontainsinvalidargu185 5 лет назад

3:00 this was my exact thoughts when I saw this.

@notlikethis5782 5 лет назад

It's what broke Tiberian Twilight for me.

@ezrasalamat2885 5 лет назад

yup, it was a game changer

@furtim1 5 лет назад

I still have all the cc games...can't get them to work on windows 10. With a modern system, I can see myself unit counting the hell out of it now. When I was a kid, my poor computer would bog the game down if things got up there.

@ezrasalamat2885 5 лет назад

Tiberian Sun has been released for free on Windows, which should work in Windows 10. I'm not sure with the other C&C games though

@hux2000 4 года назад

That graphic that shows a tiny, 1 MB data "droplet" going through the "straw" of the CD-Rom drive, supposedly at 150 KB/sec? It takes just under 7 seconds from when it appears to when it "drops". Meanwhile, 1024 KB / 150 = 6.83 seconds. Bravo, Ars. Well played!

@jnevercast 4 года назад

Now that's editing to scale.

@RabidArtists 4 года назад

Hahaha wow when I was making that I never thought someone would even notice, it's even timed to the frame 😂 you are my hero

@DevranUenal 4 года назад

@@RabidArtists great work! :)

@cksvideocloudstorage2993 4 года назад

Oh damn that's some hard detail lol

@benruss4130 4 года назад

@@RabidArtists Yes, people only tend to notice things when they are wrong. In my sound job, if no one has anything negative to say I consider it a job well done.

@GeeBeisH 4 года назад

I remember these times. It was a time when game developers released well polished games. Games that worked out of the box(literally)...

@Johnny-rx4hs 4 года назад

I also preferred expansion packs to the miniscule, often cosmetic DLC we see today too.

@LordVader1094 4 года назад

@@Lowlightt It still worked out of the box.

@calebb7012 4 года назад

these days we don't even get a physical "boxed" option.

@weston407 3 года назад

@@Johnny-rx4hs i miss old school expansion packs so much - Brood Wars, Opposing Force, etc - such good times - i’m glad i had a decent computer in middle school in the late 90s

@mycosys 2 года назад

and it sure as hell wasnt the 3rd rts like this pathological liar claims

@derelicttyrant3409 5 лет назад

"New construction options." "Building." "Construction complete." You guys made my childhood really fun, thanks for everything Westwood.

@timobatana6705 4 года назад

Same. I didnt have the best childhood but these games were a great escape. Many hours on these games. Many.

@serenemountain6769 4 года назад

"Your Base is Under Attack!" "Building Destroyed!"

@latmask00 4 года назад

Unit ready.

@serenemountain6769 4 года назад

@Thru-VIKING Yup ...

@lgvereor 4 года назад

@Thru-VIKING right there with you

@SoccerBoyAP 5 лет назад

9:00 - "If you spend more time just making sure it doesn't do something stupid, it'll look pretty smart." - Louis Castle Great summary of path-finding!

@Iby00 5 лет назад

pretty much sums my poster up. spend a long time doing it. made a quick final edit didnt re-read it and had a duplicate line on it... :( and as a 3rd yr undergrad that is just bloody stupid

@vguyver2 5 лет назад

@@Iby00 Pretty much what happened with Colonial Marines coding. The single line of coding in an entire game messed up the entire AI functions due to a typo, and it hurt the gameplay badly.

@jacintojosephdimen3930 5 лет назад

@@vguyver2 Is it fixed now? So is it playable?

@vguyver2 5 лет назад

@@jacintojosephdimen3930 The PC version now is with the fan patch. www.ign.com/articles/2018/07/15/modder-fixes-maligned-aliens-colonial-marines-ai-with-one-simple-coding-change

@mickhoward3954 5 лет назад

@@jacintojosephdimen3930 my house mate and I play Bughunt all the time. Just apply a ReShade and fix line 435 by getting rid of the 'a' in teather (wankers XD) and you're all good to go. Just do a quick search on how to find the correct file to edit :)

@FloraJoannaK 4 года назад

*Flashbacks of NOD engineers burrowing into base and capping, cause I missed a single tile to cement.* Whew. Nostalgia. My first RTS!

@Quadrolithium 2 года назад

More annoyed and as well as hilarious about Nod's ability to deform the terrain one time an idiot deformed the terrain with one of the support weapons before sending an engineer... the result? A perfectly uncapturable MCV with walls I cannot even sell (at least 1/4 of them). Great job idiot.

@mylions95 4 года назад

I remember getting Red Alert 2 for Christmas and basically not leaving my computer chair for two weeks during vacation. Those were some really frustrating and great times.

@crossfitsolidorange9897 4 года назад

Lan parties..pack up entire computer setup and drive to your buddy's house...stay up all night.

@manictiger 4 года назад

I lost so many grade points to Red Alert 2, hehe.

@fuupdaass275 4 года назад

Link mode

@Prizm44 4 года назад

“I’ve got the knowledge!”

@mylions95 4 года назад

@@Prizm44 lol. That really made me smile. All this nostalgia is making me want to locate this game and show my son. He might just love it.

@CncnetOrgOfficial 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing your memories with us Louis. We've still got almost 100 concurrent users playing Tiberian Sun online every day. (And Ars Technica... Wow, you guys made your own Tiberian Sun maps and graphics? Well done.)

@Kodaemon 5 лет назад

You should know better than to thank Louis Castle for anything C&C-related.

@landonrankin7891 5 лет назад

@@Kodaemon Why?

@Kodaemon 5 лет назад

@@@landonrankin7891 Because he's the type of greedy exec who stayed with EA after they killed Westwood and proceeded to kill C&C?

@Alzexza 5 лет назад

@@Kodaemon He also made C&C3 that I really enjoyed :-)

@steelbear2063 5 лет назад

@@Kodaemon A man needs to eat. And a game is ultimately just a game. Grow up.

@piggeneral1275 5 лет назад

I remember faking sick to play C&C.

@01MrCapricorn 5 лет назад

We used to sneak into class at lunch to play the demo disk when it first came out! 🤣

@Leopardipzg 5 лет назад

I remember feeling the most ultimate happiness when school day ended, and I was rushing home to play Tiberian Sun :D

@licentiousdreams 5 лет назад

PigGeneral I'm here to tell you that you we're never faking sick, withdrawals are real and can cause you to be a non-functioning sack of meat and bones. As a fellow Commander myself I want to let you know that you did what had to be done to make sure you and your troops Conquered any opposition that came your way. For the dedication and sacrifice you showed, I salute you, PigGeneral. Now go, I Command you to boot up that old pentium, listen to that beautiful windows dumdumdum, and Conquer your foes of yesteryear once again. Only then will you be reminded of why you "faked" being ill, when monday rolls around you may have to call into your side job and let them know you died, because you have a nuke to deliver. Tl;dr: It's late, I'm tired, I need sleep. I love Command and Conquer!!!!

@downholler3772 5 лет назад

I got suspended on my last day of seventh grade. They sent me home early and I went straight to tiberian sun.

@manictiger 5 лет назад

Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge dropped my grades across the board by about 1 GPA. And now I'm a rich equities trader. Videogames made me rich!

@thebigh4752 5 лет назад

We will always remember you fondly Westwood. As for you EA: You can go sit in the hallway.

@shaolinpowerranger5008 5 лет назад

Building...unit ready.. Building....unit ready Building... unable to comply building in progress....... Silo Needed

@savagex466-qt1io 4 года назад

Wait a second ... If you dont buy Silo's is all your ore wasted then ? Say like your harvaster comes back to drop off his load ? I always spent money in that game lol

@LightningSe7en 4 года назад

Yes it is wasted.

@william8672 4 года назад

silo needed

@william8672 4 года назад

silo needed

@william8672 4 года назад

silo needed

@CrowCZ 5 лет назад

Man I replayed Red Alert 2 so many times as a kid that I still remember every single mission after all those years, good times. And those custom installers, Westwood was really good at those.

@jeffreyrowan8865 5 лет назад

Same, RA2 was my entire childhood

@WARDEATHFUN 5 лет назад

WARNING: MILITARY SOFTWARE DETECTED. TOP SECRET CLEARANCE REQUIRED.

@TidusleFlemard 5 лет назад

My first though when I downloaded when I downloaded the serie from origin (my cds were fubar and I had spare changes) was WHY ORIGIN DOESNT HAVE THOSE INSTALLER EVEN IF FOR A JOKE?

@mwperk02 5 лет назад

@@TidusleFlemard That would probably take actual work on EA's part to get the old launchers working the way they want.

@joshuaupham5993 5 лет назад

Hundreds of hours.......😄

@g3nkamgaming 5 лет назад

I really love TIberian Sun for its designs, environment and story.

@ugiustuskeiserus8066 5 лет назад

Looking forward to see how they do with the remaster

@Deathbrecht 5 лет назад

@MF Kamil Arts Haven't you forgotten Something?? What about the Soundtrack?? 🙄🤔😇

@ugiustuskeiserus8066 5 лет назад

@laflugantabastardo Yeah, but I'm sure if the remasters do well they would start doing some others.

@dreamingflurry2729 5 лет назад

Command and Conquer was my gold-card back then (I got invited by almost everybody (which was great to spend time when my real friends couldn't spend time with me) - on the condition that I brought whatever Command and Conquer was the newest (this started with a Game of the Year edition of Red Alert...don't remember when it ended...))

@PrimitiveBaroque 5 лет назад

Did a recent playthrough and it still got me hooked.

@codinginflow 2 года назад

God I remember playing a tiny demo of that game that was contained in some gaming magazine over and over again. Terrific game.

@mycosys 2 года назад

definitely not the 3rd rts tho. This guy is a pathological liar

@fergusmurphy8310 2 года назад

Ah yes, demo CDs with game trials. Those were the days....

@wallamazoo01 2 года назад

@@mycosys Not necessarily a liar, if you ask most RTS gamers which games were their starting game, they will respond with Starcraft/Warcraft, Command and Conquer, or Dune. There certainly were other RTS games, but many I played were commando style missions only, where you completed challenges with set units. Hearts of Iron was like this, you had so many units and needed to do a thing in a WW2 setting. The RTS of Macro and Micro Economies really started with these three games, as they were the most popular.

@noneater 2 года назад

That magazine was most likely PC Gamer!! I used to beg my mom to buy it for me each month at the supermarket.

@codinginflow 2 года назад

@@noneater I think that was the one 😁

@Helmutlozzi 4 года назад

Westwood.. Never forget.

@peterh2828 4 года назад

Never forgive!

@golice 4 года назад

i like land of lore series

@ristonalaimo5048 4 года назад

never forgetti

@insertcognomen 4 года назад

the north remembers

@theelectricindian 5 лет назад

You sir are a hero to me. CnC from the original to RA2 changed my life. Those games changed my life.

@theelectricindian 5 лет назад

Dune 2 and Dune 2000 also played a big role. It was most of Westwoods RTS games that made me a PC gamer and got me interested in computers. Hey also kept me entertained after I was in a bad accident and wasnt mobile for a few months. I played them every day.

@pyr3x849 5 лет назад

Mine too man... I spent most of my childhood playing c&c

@miksuko 5 лет назад

Try OpenRA. Has players, still.

@dontblameme9468 5 лет назад

Agreed.

@mycosys 2 года назад

but why does he need to lie so much?

@HerrDerpington 5 лет назад

"Welcome back, Commander." I never left.

@meh5812 4 года назад

me neither

@zx169 4 года назад

"The fix"....*A Goliath and a Dragoon taking notes quietly in the corner*

@indominusrex1652 4 года назад

They aren't in the corner because they're pathfinding is horrible

@aloe7794 4 месяца назад

@@indominusrex1652 As Goliaths say, 'All systems """"""""""""functional""""""""""'

@liammorriss 10 дней назад

"Systems ...not functional"

@AdioAurel 2 года назад

The 1st time I saw C&C 1 Tiberian Dawn was with my brother in the gaming section of a store (Vilan Aarau xD) on the Playstation 1, probably in 1995/96. I was like 8 and he 10 and we were totally blown away! We started drawing those bases, units and stuff which got burnt into our minds. I don't remember when, but we finally got our very own copy and didn't have to go to the market anymore. It was a blast! When Tiberian Sun got released I was once again mindblown! I got the game even before having a PC to play it 🤣Sometimes I could go with my mom to her friend's apartment and played on her PC, it was special, because rare, since she didn't live nearby. So, I would play the whole night and had to be careful not to open the internet browser (expensive haha). When at home I read the manual tons of times and stared at the beautiful box's artstyle so much... Happy times! I still have all original copies of the games and the PS 1 from back then :D Now my mom's friend is not doing so well anymore and I help her out sometimes. It keeps bringing back the memories and occasionally I still play the games. Now even with the remastered edition and stunning mods^^ Thanks goes out to the devs! Cheers!

@Thesilverninja 5 лет назад

I have a few things to say about this video. 1.) Thank you so much for covering my favorite video game series of all time. Hearing Louis Castle talk about C&C instantly threw me back to my childhood. I loved those games with a passion and I'm still pissed that it ended with C&C 4. 2.) I am super impressed by the ARS effects team. The reproduction of the C&C effects and video compression was spot on. Definitely a big kudos to the effects team. I also liked that the green screen background mimicked Tiberian Sun's Philadelphia station motif. 3.) I never realized how incredibly intelligent Louis Castle was. Seems like working for him would teach you a lot of stuff about video game development. I have to see that if the C&C team considering opening up job applications. I'd consider submitting my resume after having worked at R* games for two years.

@Marc83Aus 5 лет назад

If only there was a hope of getting new Command and conquer... That isn't a mobile game with microtransactions :(

@hurtigheinz3790 5 лет назад

@@Marc83Aus It ended with C&C4? In my universe there is only C&C 1 to 4 + Generals + Renegade. RA is part 2, Tiberium Wars is part 3 and Red Alert 2 is part 4. So, what are you talking about? :D

@Ueberdoziz 5 лет назад

@@hurtigheinz3790 more like c&c tib 4 there are c&c red alert 1-3 c&c tiberium XXX 1-4 c&c generals now the last comman and conquer was called "command and conquer 4: tiberium twillight" which completely wrecked the series, so peeps often jus call it C&C 4 or did i miss your comment and you meant that you are not acknowledging anything after generals?

@emmamorris6577 5 лет назад

@@Marc83Aus EA are remastering TD and RA and are actually working with Petroglyph devs and experienced modders (such as the OpenRA team) do make a good job of it - I've no clue what's made EA suddenly make a not-horrific decision, but it's amazing that they're doing this. @The Silver Ninja you should definitely look into applying to the team that's working on the remasters, there'll be *tonnes* of great devs and artists there to learn from and with

@Marc83Aus 5 лет назад

I see they've even got Frank Klepaki involved, as well as experienced members of the original dev teams, should be a decent remaster for a change. Maybe if theres good sales they might commit to a new full game. @@emmamorris6577

@what7287 5 лет назад

the editing is superb.

@dicedoom7162 5 лет назад

yeah sure, exept at 0:23 is a bit weird in my opinion

@mattimhiyasmith 5 лет назад

I really enjoyed the detail described, more game developers should put this detail in :)

@XBONESXx 5 лет назад

RIGHT?

@blacknebulon 5 лет назад

Transitions were way too loud imo. Had to mute the video when the wipes happened, otherwise perfect.

@dontblameme9468 5 лет назад

Agreed.

@ANJIN79SAMMA 4 года назад

I still can’t believe James Earl Jones and the legend Michael Bein we’re in this game. Blew my mind when I saw them in this as a kid!!!

@johnny_eth 4 года назад

And Kari Wuhrer

@patrickbateman6214 4 года назад

*WERE

@ANJIN79SAMMA 4 года назад

patrick bateman -oops damn auto correct 😑

@chrisrichfield8906 4 года назад

i really wanna play this now. As a kid i played a lot of Red Alert 1 and 2, and my uncle always praised this game but i only ever got 1 chance to play it. I really would love to play that campaign now, I watch Terminator 1 at least once a year and it is my favorite in the series mostly because of Micheal Bein, and James Earl Jones is equally legendary.

@Johnny-rx4hs 4 года назад

Same reaction to seeing Mark Hamill in Wing Commander III and IV

@LewisJohnsonIII 5 лет назад

Your games inspired me. I ended up being a lead 3d animator for years. Now I do IT work and grow weed legally.... Life is crazy.

@Senorpoontang 5 лет назад

Teach me

@alibabaei1953 5 лет назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@jthemagicrobot3960 4 года назад

What courses did you take to get into 3d animation?

@SolantisA 4 года назад

What courses did you take to grow weed legally?

@produccionesabuela8533 4 года назад

What game did you grow to weed courses legally?

@AzariusR 5 лет назад

Clicks Build WestWood Studios. *Building* *Construction Complete* *New Construction Options* EA Detected EA sends Engineer Building Captured Structure Sold RIP Westwood Studios

@OrenTubing 5 лет назад

LOL so true...

@Geomaverick124 5 лет назад

so true...can I use this comment on a different vid?

@chemoboy-dannypheleps9234 4 года назад

haha decent

@Nyerguds 4 года назад

In C&C1 this is actually possible with some modding. As shown on the image I put in the other comment, the WestWood Studios building is actually in the game.

@Alex_Hard068 4 года назад

Give all Generals 2! Tiberian sun or Red Alert - NO GOOD!!! No perspectives! Generals 2 - top!

@markfrellips5633 5 лет назад

Man the cutscenes and the talent they recruited; they garnered huge stars to star in the cinematics. I still remember Michael Ironsides and going nuts.

@myztklk3v 4 года назад

Yuri's revenge was one of my favourite games/expansions when i was a kid, I miss you westwood.

@MentoliptusBanko 2 года назад

I love the C&C games, I played them since I remember having a computer at home. And your words are absolutely true: I play games because of the setting, the story, the lore...and my units are not only stat blocks or bytes in memory. I agree with you, and I wish more games were made today with more focus on the narrative.

@Di0nysys 5 лет назад

Hell yea! Tiberian Sun still has the best story/campaign and atmosphere out of the series.

@Sunnysideanyway 5 лет назад

Atmosphere I'll agree with, but C&C3 had a better story and campaign in my opinion.

@Sunnysideanyway 5 лет назад

@Jeff Mitchell Why are "Secrets" so important?

@Sunnysideanyway 5 лет назад

@Artuurs Z. I never said that.

@Sunnysideanyway 5 лет назад

@Artuurs Z. There was more information to work with regarding the backstories of the factions in the intelligence data. There was also more things to know on Kane's intentions and a lot of unexplained things are actually noted in Kane's Wrath.

@Sunnysideanyway 5 лет назад

@Artuurs Z. I understand where you're coming from with Slavik. Would've been great to see him in Kane's Wrath. But, why do you say it's "made up"? Aren't all stories made up?

@Drahcael 5 лет назад

I loved Tiberian Sun (and the other C&C games). In general C&C was a big influence for me as a gamer. Good childhood memories. How I loved the Obelisk of Light :D

@digitalbuzz 5 лет назад

Thank you, Louis, for giving me my first job out of college.

@LTV746 4 года назад

Reach out I’m sure he’d love to know again

@ewenchan1239 2 года назад

It's interesting to learn about some of the details that went on behind-the-scenes, years later. I remember playing this as a teen and not really thinking too much nor too in-depth in terms of how the dev team accomplished this, but as someone who is much older now, I can definitely appreciate it a lot more.

@JamesPimlott 5 лет назад

Any C&C fans here should check out the MAGFest 2019 Frank Klepacki and The Tiberian Sons performance, it's incredible. Love the C&C games!

@ChristopherMundahl 5 лет назад

it really was awesome!

@microqueen69 5 лет назад

Very high energy!

@dontblameme9468 5 лет назад

Agreed

@roaldthamesen533 5 лет назад

YAAAAAY!! MORE CLASSIC C&C AND WESTWOOD PLEASE!! P.S: Would love to see the stories from the creators of World in Conflict.

@ROBOHOLIC1 5 лет назад

I heard they had actual Spetsnaz co-operate with them during many of the Russian parts in the Campaign!

@hennaikimono 5 лет назад

That was a great game

@willlasdf123 5 лет назад

God I wish that game got a sequel

@KingZealotTactics 5 лет назад

world in conflict, what a great game.

@AxelLeJeff 5 лет назад

EA has hired Petroglyph to recreate the C&C series in 4k.

@SpaceMissile 5 лет назад

7:15 - That was hilarious. Remarkable what subtle editing can do.

@RabidArtists 5 лет назад

Haha appreciate it :)

@stillwatersrundeep001 4 года назад

I'm replaying Starcraft 1 now, and the pathfinding AI at Westwood from Red Alert to Tiberian Sun really blows SC1's pathfinding _out of the water._ SC1 units won't wait their turn to go through a chokepoint and will instead go around the map looking for another path that isn't there, and won't move out of the way to allow other units to pass through.

@ehshornet2010 3 года назад

and yet this game is total garbage,and SC had actual strategy lol

@stillwatersrundeep001 3 года назад

@@ehshornet2010 Haha look at you with your cute opinions.

@ehshornet2010 3 года назад

@@stillwatersrundeep001 you know I'm right boiiiiiiiiiii lol rock paper scissors was for children

@stillwatersrundeep001 3 года назад

@@ehshornet2010 All i know is that you like to pretend your opinion is the truth.

@espablo220 3 года назад

It is pretty annoying how the Pathfinding in SC is, no wonder why pro players have to micro their units at all times in SC.

@wallacerigby4393 5 лет назад

C & C series was and is the ONLY RTS game I played. Didn’t even play multiplayer. It was just so good like a RPG/Story driven game with art designs I loved. God I miss C & C.

@markdavis160 5 лет назад

Tiberian Sun is one of my all time faves, but you are missing out if you never tried Starcraft, Warcraft III, Age of Empires, or Rise of Nations.

@demonlordotrt754 5 лет назад

I grew up in C&C ,Total annihilation, starcraft Broodwar, Diablo 2, orcs Ver. Humans and warcraft 2.

@darkdigger15 5 лет назад

Ah, the installer, I cannot forget how awesome that felt. The audio was something out of this world. The iconic high beeps while navigating through the menu's and the almost trance-like music theme sucking you straight into the game, gives me the bumps every time i hear it. Thanks for the good old times

@Wok_Agenda 5 лет назад

I served in C&C Red Alert 1996-1998

@feelx92ger 4 года назад

Were you a part of the dev team? If so, what was your function? Just curious

@Scribbby 4 года назад

@@feelx92ger I was in battle, on the front lines and he was my commander.

@Maarten8867 4 года назад

I served in that war as well, I still suffer from terrible headaches to this day as a result of my service. (I served as a tesla coil)

@Wok_Agenda 4 года назад

@@Maarten8867 Thank you for your service

@porkwoofles3909 4 года назад

Time to re-enlist. Download OpenRA today for free!

@thexels1 5 лет назад

OG westwood is one of the largest chunks of my childhood gaming. I was so sad renegade was not as popular as it should have been. An RTS FPS... such a neat game!

@piyh3962 5 лет назад

This was my first RTS and will always be one of my favorites along with RA2. Doesn't give me the anxiety to play like SC2 .

@MichaelHarto 5 лет назад

I thought i was the only one who had anxiety playing sc2

@ChristopherMundahl 5 лет назад

StarCraft units have no movement acceleration and it's more of a twitch reflex/apm game.

@RunawayYe 5 лет назад

@@MichaelHarto that phenomenon is called "ladder anxiety"

@MichaelHarto 5 лет назад

@@RunawayYe actually SC1 too. It's not about the rank, but the limited resources.

@despawn7663 5 лет назад

War Stories are amazing, please continue to deliver this content. The historical and personal perspective is amazing, there are plenty of youtube and others out there that do similar, but the production values on this are immense.

@chrishaugh1655 5 лет назад

Westwood: hey we like the idea of no unit caps! EA: yeah well C&C4

@jonnyjai1314 5 лет назад

LOL thats how C and C died in the hands of EA

@MrTBSC 4 года назад

@@jonnyjai1314 hope´s to C&C remasters reinvigorating the hype to get EA doing a propper sequel ... be it tiberian wars, red alert, generals or even dune ... that generals 2 cancelation didn´t need to happen at all ...

@dixie_rekd9601 4 года назад

@@MrTBSC EA wouldnt though , they would make a "sequel" where you need to pay actual money to get lootboxes to possibly upgrade units. - they would make you buy a subscription to unlock higher unit caps. they would tie everything into an always online "service" which turns the whole thing into effectively clash of clans or farmville. we have long ago seen the end of EA making anything just because its awesome, rather than to milk the gamers for every penny.

@patrickshelley09 4 года назад

We don't talk about C&C4.

@dixie_rekd9601 4 года назад

@@patrickshelley09 shhhhhhhh

@robbymulvany2109 4 года назад

I worked on a pathfinding algorithm years and years ago on a slow computer and one of the things I did is I offset pathfinding to different frames. So when units were moving, I would do the calculations for X amount of units per frame - basically timing out how long each calculation took and if it went on too long I wouldn't do another until the next frame passed.

@aoijeka 5 лет назад

3:08 "And every time we saw some great innovation we said does that make sense for our series or not." Yeah, try to tell that to EA. Oh, you already did, and now Westwood is closed. Goddamn, EA.

@CaveyMoth 5 лет назад

*Notices EA* These critters don't look too friendly.

@Orcawhale1 5 лет назад

The thing is though, it wasn't EA's fault. Westwood's closure was due to all of the staff leaving to go do other projects, or join EA LA(Which would later make Generals). Also, keep in mind if your going by the logic you use, EA would be just as responsible for bringing the game to life and the public(Which we all know isn't the case).

@OrenTubing 5 лет назад

Replace "sense" with "money" and you get EA thinking

@SilverKnightPCs 5 лет назад

I talked to Louis a long time ago. Back then EA wasnt the Evil it is now. He also got a position as a senior VP at EA. Unfortunately, EA evolved into a game company that only cared about the bottom dollar. Louis tried to adapt new technologies like mobile to make both interesting and profitable games. Unfortunately EA slowly bled his company dry of talent by sending them to EA LA and others. Louis was my hero as a kid and I met him through his son at my high school in 2011. It changed my life to meet the man. He was a giant to me even though if you didnt know who he was he looked like a normal dude. He inspired me to start up my PC building company and to achieve that level of success he did with his.

@poonczey 5 лет назад

@@SilverKnightPCs ^This is very important! EA was awesome back in the day!

@haasgaming 5 лет назад

All the classic C&C games were superb in virtually every way. Absolutely a hallmark I wish more games would try to live up to. Tiberian Sun had a fantastic atmosphere and from the glances we've had at Tiberian Twilight, I'd have loved to have seen that come to fruition. Few games out there can beat what classic C&C accomplished. Also, lovely video editing.

@FlameDevily 4 года назад

What a legend. CnC3 and RA3 just don’t have the same taste.

@KX36 5 лет назад

The original CNC is still my favourite game ever.. The music was SO GOOD!

@dontblameme9468 5 лет назад

Frank is such a beast!

@DrGreerIsRight 4 года назад

Great Shot!

@Exile1a 4 года назад

Can't wait to listen to the Remastered Music come june 5th. ^^

@ChesterRico 4 года назад

@@DrGreerIsRight Return to base immediately!

@GunRunner106 5 лет назад

i always really loved the atmosphere in cnc tibsun... something other rts always struggled with once the game had begun.... irly loved the mini cutscenes in the radar map screen....

@thetrustysidekick3013 5 лет назад

Westwood, man, those guys made me happy for a very long time. My love for strategy games now is because of wonderful memories playing Command and Conquer.

@jmitterii2 5 лет назад

They started it all... along with War Craft until it went RPG.

@wasimlafir6865 5 лет назад

Westwood Studios..... Red Alert, Tiberian Sun hand down epic RTS games ever

@dragoraan7247 4 года назад

Red Alert 2:yuris revenge was one of my favorites, well done!

@JulianMakes 4 года назад

Brother of the Worm I loved yuris revenge too, great units and map options

@romariobraam 4 года назад

Same here 😎

@aabbccddeeff7749 5 лет назад

*drops a tear*

@warcorer 5 лет назад

Yeah, seriously got the feels from this video and the nostalgia of the old C&C games.

@TheChumm 5 лет назад

Your production on these videos is really impressive, going to the effort to illustrate so much in-game really elevates the video. Well done!

@HinanawiTenko 5 лет назад

The great thing is that for the C&C Remaster, EA got Petroglyph to work on it, which has most of the original staff that worked on it in '95. As for the video, I noticed he glossed over dropped features like armor was planned on a vehicle class basis and would function like weakpoints do in C&C3.

@miggymigz7160 4 года назад

2:53 When C&C Remaster and C&C Red Alert Remaster are on sale.

@DisguiseAU 5 лет назад

Definitely my favourite C&C game and one of my most played games ever!

@triplehelix3207 5 лет назад

I can't wait for this game to ported to OpenRA or just straight remastered

@NFMorley 5 лет назад

Closest for now is probably the CNCNet.org project - definitely worth trying if you're interested!

@triplehelix3207 5 лет назад

@@NFMorley Well we are going to see Red Alert and Tiberian Dawn remasterd. I hope it paves the way for Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun Remasters, at that point i can die happy

@SethTheProphet 5 лет назад

It's being made by EA man... they are gonna pump it full of microtransactions and DLC.

@fernandohood5657 5 лет назад

look around for "Shattered Paradise" its made in OpenRA

@miksuko 5 лет назад

Can't wait for Red Alert 2 to come to OpenRA in 2030 :)

@Nightstand94 5 лет назад

2:58 Yeah Westwood fans are everywhere!!

@bowmin1 4 года назад

Whoever is responsible for gathering game footage is absolutely amazing. The people need a promotion asap. It's amazing how some simple game footage recording done right can add so much comedy to an otherwise mostly educative video. Stuff like the transition scenes where a problem is brought up and then a solution is found, in one such case, the solution being an ion cannon striking down. The army spam was a hilarious moment and we saw that same army multiple times through the video. It was great.

@nicogesellbarrios7956 5 лет назад

i'm still playing dune 2000 and tiberian sun to this day.

@catklyst 4 года назад

WORM SIGN!

@Davepotnoodle 5 лет назад

Tiberian Sun is still my favourite RTS.

@Datan0de 5 лет назад

I waffle between Tiberian Sun and C&C 3 as my favorite RTS. C&C 3 was obviously far superior technologically, but if I just have some time to kill a "quick" TS skirmish is easier to pick up and more satisfying.

@khalylehagood3222 3 года назад

I appreciate the editor who synced up the callouts to the music.

@notbrandon2888 4 года назад

I didn’t realize other people actually got to experience this amazing game too. I used to come home from school and play firestorm LAN games with my friends for hours. The good old days

@thefrunj 5 лет назад

Full credit for the editing, transitions, and in-game footage! Only request for headphone users is to increase the interview dialogue to match the rest of the audio :)

@Moreanolc 5 лет назад

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE THIS MAN 10 MILLION DOLLARS AND HAVE HIM SAVE THE GAMING INDUSTRY!!!!

@daghostds 4 года назад

You won't get far with 10 million...

@Zgmflegend 4 года назад

@@daghostds What basement dwellers/modders can do with a potato pc....

@UnitSe7en 4 года назад

That's entirely the problem: It is an _industry._ The state of games then was not like it is now. You can't fix games except by changing the zeitgeist again.

@fortheloveofnoise 4 года назад

He would need 10 billion.

@Johnny-rx4hs 4 года назад

Nah, just vote with your wallet and support game developers that actually care about making good games. Right now Paradox Interactive is getting my money.

@theoriginalbreadcrumb 4 года назад

My favorite activity in C&C was to save 1 enemy harvester and build a massive insanely big base covering all of the map. :)

@LightningSe7en 4 года назад

Me too!

@angrypotato_fz 2 года назад

This interview is so well produced and edited! Having seen a lot of similar videos about game development, I hugely appreciate how well the gameplay footage represents whatever the game developer is talking about. And also great chapter title sequences. I know a lot of work went into this, including planning, creating environments and scenarios in-game. And you also credited all the other sources. Great job, Ars Technica crew!

@Promilus1984 5 лет назад

Damn, was some 15 years old kid back then, played so hard that when I closed my eyes to sleep I still saw some rifle soldiers running and screaming "medic!"

@Chayat0freak 5 лет назад

We are going to have to act if we want to live in a different world

@HarriJokinen 5 лет назад

Your feeling of helplessness is your best friend, savage!

@Sans-Soucii 5 лет назад

Are you a Mechanical man, acting on instinct? :3

@Gruntvc 5 лет назад

One of the best songs from the franchise.

@JeansWithPockets541 5 лет назад

Move towards more ideas that will, uhhhhh... help bring this thing to an end!

@minh3264 5 лет назад

we will stop them now

@enchainedprometheus 3 года назад

Thank you Westwood all the hard works, Tiberiam Sun was my first RTS game, you gave my childhood such a nice experience and sci-fi love I cann't be graetfull enough. This game simply changed my world.

@LiveToRideMTB 4 года назад

Wow thankyou so much for putting this video together, TS has always been one of my favorite games right from when I saw it expo'd at a air show here in the UK in 1998/1999. Really enjoyed the little sound effects throughout! Love that you can still play online on CNCnet. Thanks!

@Gurchen 5 лет назад

Absolutely fantastic video, great insights and superb editing. Thank you Ars Technica!

@thedreamer6930 5 лет назад

I really hope they plan to remake this. This was my favorite part of the timeline. Everything about the sci-fi feel of these new earth, the creatures, the buildings, the landscapes, the units and everyone in between was amazing to me.

@spencerw9784 5 лет назад

I still play Tiberian sun off and on to this day, it’s a part of my childhood I will never forget, and I’m glad to see this very very recent piece of media come up about the subject

@BFMert 5 лет назад

There is not a game that gives the same nostalgia as Tiberian Sun with its environment, the music and the feeling itself.

@pho3nix- 5 лет назад

This brought back some memories :) would love a HD remaster via Steam of the classic C&C games!

@sirfatalx 5 лет назад

Great Video! I miss Westwood Studio and the Command and Conquer series in general. I wish the best for the new remaster coming out soon!

@Fishy_Chameleon 4 года назад

I love how you can tell the editor had fun with making this video

@pieterdebie4162 5 лет назад

Thanks for this video, I always love hearing the stories behind great games. Also props to the video editing, I laughed out loud with the Ion Cannon Solution :D

@mycosys 2 года назад

pity its hard to know whats true with SO many lies

@richardkotorac5423 5 лет назад

Kane Lives in Death!

@NodDisciple1 5 лет назад

In the name of Kane!

@MosoKaiser 5 лет назад

Peace through power!

@gumunduringigumundsson9344 5 лет назад

Kane lives! Somewhere, he is. Doing what he does best. Long live Kane! Long live Kane! Long live Kane! Hoorah! Hoorah! Hoorah!

@EliteGi 5 лет назад

Brilliant content. Fascinating to just hear Louis Castle talk about my favourite game of all time, with some neat (rather than distracting) video and audio to go with it. Looking forward to see what the new (old) team come up with on the remaster!

@mycosys 2 года назад

Pity he lies so much tho

@papilloneffect4015 5 лет назад

Thanks to Louis as well as Ars Technica. This is such a great series. I can't thank you all enough.

@mycosys 2 года назад

pity Louis lies so much tho

@ushipb00 4 года назад

So cool. I loved Command and Conquer! Thanks for making this much beloved documentary!

@Starwarsfun1-Leo 5 лет назад

Loved the editing on this video!

@Sphere723 4 года назад

I am starting to realize that my childhood was the golden age of video games. New video games actually had things you had never seen before. You have to imagine what it was like to play C&C and see actual video. That just wasn't a part of video games before.

@NinusMaximus 4 года назад

Oh my god this channel! Why didn't youtube recommend it to me earlier!!! In love with these guys work!

@tknson 4 года назад

Thanks for everything Westwood! still have very fond memories of Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2:YR, and C&C Renegade from my childhood

@LichLordNemo 4 года назад

4:36 made me laugh The classics are the best. They were authentic back then. Syphon philter was a good one too

@KucheKlizma 5 лет назад

The reason no player gives a damn about the story anymore is because no studio cares about telling a story that's worth a damn anymore. :( One vision. One purpose. Micro-transactions. The technology of peace.

@pigzard01 5 лет назад

Riches through Loot Boxes!

@deliciousdeviant5333 5 лет назад

we are living in a golden age of entertainment. Yes there AAA games out to milk your money, but there is also the endless supply of uniquely crafted indie games and more.

@gamiezion 5 лет назад

kane lives in death :(

@user-ik4nc8ob8h 5 лет назад

Boi dont you compare EA to brotherhood of nod,one is tyranical ,greedy entity and the other is brotherhood nod

@cc-bk3tx 5 лет назад

@@deliciousdeviant5333 not rts games :(

@Vladi306 4 года назад

I was obsessed with this game throughout junior high and the next few years following. Even after fancier RTS games came out, I played Tiberian Sun way more. I had notebooks full of concept units & structures, wrote my own lore and played skirmish games with varying scenarios all the time. (Mostly as the Brotherhood of NOD) What a blast that was to bombard an enemy base with artillery groups then assault the area with a hundred light infantry units led by a Cyborg Commando... JUST because you can! 😍 Those were the daysssss. One vision, one purpose. PEACE THROUGH POWER!