How Could This HAPPEN?!? Iron Menace Review - Dorney Park 

@@DonkeyPopsicle it cracks me up every time I watch a video of the ending of Pegasus

@@DonkeyPopsicle it cracks me up every time I watch the ending of pegasus

@@ethansummer4929 Talon is the best ride in the park. Menace is three or four

Yeah, those outer seats, which may be exciting on other dive coasters, are a lot more painful on Iron Menace

Talon will probably always be supreme unless they build a Fury style giga.

I felt that. I don’t understand how a new B&M is this rough. Like I don’t even remember Firebird at Six Flags America being this rough. I feel bad for Dorney as this is their first new coaster in years and it’s having this issue. Talon is honestly one of the best inverts I’ve ridden that said I think Steel Force is my favorite it the park.

@@ninjagirl226 steel force was my favorite but this year the turnaround at the end has gotten pretty rough in my opinion

Agreed!

Damn it’s that ruff???

@@nito209 it definitely does not run well

So it sounds like you rode a Gerstlauer Infinity 😂 But really, I’ve seen the POVs and heard the reviews. It’s not great.

I rode iron menace before multiple times and in my opinion it’s not thaat bad. Sure it could definitely be better without it but it doesn’t really take out much of the ride experience imo.

I think there is something about these 7 across seating thats the problem, might be wrong though

Yeah Yukon Striker is still very smooth to this day. Leviathan is still glass smooth after 12 years of operation which is impressive.

The track profiling is really poor. Especially the final turn where it literally has a spot where the radius suddenly changes like on an old arrow/vekoma causing the horrible jolt.

I also wouldn't rule out the contractor who built the ride was rushed into finishing it, leading to alignment imperfections.

@@Stagnant_GravyI don’t think they were rushed. Dorney broke ground extremely early they had plenty of time to finish the ride. I think it is a B&M issue. A lot of new ones are having rattles these days. I heard they don’t use the same steel they previously used because it became too expensive.

I heard something changed on the executive level which is causing this

I believe they are using different steel now. The cost of the steel they used before got too expensive

The back row was worse which is unfortunate because that first drop gives some good airtime

Hydras rattle is so so much worse in the back compared to the front.

@@TheEpic22 some rides on hydra are better than others

@@ethansummer4929 I agree. My most recent one was very rough but before that I never had a problem

Not at all, I’m confused by this video. Did me and all of my friends ride a completely different roller coaster than this guy last week? I thought it was smooth as butter.

⁠@@SmoakinThrills Same. I only felt a rattle in the back row and I rode it 26 times

I consider this horribly wrong for a brand-new roller coaster. These issues shouldn't have been a thing.

are they using skinny track these days on the new dive coasters? that seems like a supremely stupid choice. look at the size of those trains. giant heavy trains require giant track. I also wonder if B&M got a little more lax on their wheel tolerances in the past few years

​@@dindog22 It depends on the width of the train. The thick track is used for dive coasters with 8 or 10 rows.

Did you ride front row middle seat?

Agreed, like an element or two more would've made it more complete

@@XscreamThrills I've ridden this spot several times and did not notice anything that would impact the experience. I found it to be a quick, punchy ride with a lackluster ending. Though the drop, zero g roll and incline loop were all awesome elements that delivered. My experience, which is based on a dozen rides now, is that the second and third row end seats do deliver a significantly less smooth ride. It's noticeable, but not headache inducing or painful. Something about the train build has to be the issue here.

Ngl I agree, like I’m a coaster enthusiast and sometimes i get annoyed when people instantly trash on a ride for not being extremely smooth.

Not sure if you have been reading the comments, but quite a lot of people agree with me that this ride is "rough."

​@@XscreamThrills doesn't make this ride bad at all.

@@XscreamThrillsngl I agree it’s a bit rough in some elements but I don’t feel like it ruined the ride. I respect your opinion but I feel like you were a bit harsh on some things

I like this coaster and tbh the things you say are kinda true, it could definitely be better but it is still a nice edition to the park in my opinion.

That would make sense, if every new b&m coaster since 2022 is rattley. Seaworld orlando has some glossy smooth b&ms yet pipeline and penguin trek are very shakey. doesnt seem like a maintenance issue, its 100% because of b&m

@@Yonel6969 let's be reasonable here, it's equally possible that it's B&M or it's maintenance crews that work on those particular rides. No one knows yet until/if it's resolved what is the cause of the issue. If it's not resolved it's no big deal

@@TrueLies23 It's B&M. Nemesis Reborn has an awful rattle and Mandrill Mayhem is just plain rough with how much you bounce around.

​@@lancehutch still doesn't make the ride bad.

@@Themeparkfan630 Of course it doesn't, at least with Nemesis's sake - I ablosultly love it even if it gives me a headache now. But parks are paying STUPID money for these rides and expect a glossy smooth coaster, as B&M used to make. So why is it ok for them to drop off in quality now when parks are paying probably even more for them currently?

Exactly. Bro is to negative

Fr like the rattle doesn’t really ruin the ride much and like a ride doesn’t have to be extremely smooth to be fun.

No wonder people hate coaster enthusiasts.

@@Themeparkfan630 uhhhh even GP is complaining about the roughness and the jolt. This is a major issue. It's a brand new coaster. You saying enthusiast are just judging. We are judging for a reason. B&M is a world class company a brand new ride that coaster millions of dollars shouldn't have a jolt. It's unexcusable. This isn't the 1980s when coasters were hand built. We have some of the most advanced technology now and yet they have issues. This isn't a coaster issue. It's a B&M issue. Literally no other company makes coasters that rattle this much when new. I cant think of a single Intamin or RMC or mack that has jolts and rattles. It's a shame cause B&M used to be good. As for you complaining about it. Someone has to cause B&M needs to stop being stubborn and adopt new technology and experiences or else they will be forgotten and the company that didn't bring anything new to the table. Their last new design was their flying coaster in the mid 2000s. That's it. They don't adopt new ways to design rides or new elements. They just have their cookie cutter elements. They are literally modern arrow besides the fact they change the elements for the height. That's it though. They haven't brought a new element. All they use is dive loops, immelmann, loops and zero g rolls. That's it and sure alot of other companies do that. But at least they also have outer banks and stalls and airtime hills and other unique elements. B&M just does control c, control V to all their coasters. It's getting old real fast. It's not the 90s. It's time to step up your design process. Add new experiences and elements and actually do something different for once.

​@@CarolinaCycloneJames dude it's one ride it's not that serious.

They have 4 of the most popular models there not going anywhere

@kakkycoasties8670 I really enjoyed valravn. I think that's more of a you problem then anything.

@@Themeparkfan630 It's not just a me problem, the group of 3 i was with all said it was rattling a ton. The ride doesn't do anything fun outside of the drop to warrant a re-ride.

Maybe you caught it on a bad day. All the times I've ridden it, it's been smooth. So i think it's a u problem, buddy ​@kakkycoasties8670

Valkyria At Liseberg. it Had A Really Noticeable Rattle. The Smoothest For Me Was Black Mamba At Phantasialand.

I was there on the 12th & 13th

@@XscreamThrills I was there on the 6th. Same thing with the water park being slammed.

Their surf coaster model is pretty good, which is why I'm surprised their latest generation dive coaster doesn't seem to hold up like the previous versions.

@XscreamThrills they just used to be soo good. The best CAD, the best profiling, the most smooth. But they got boring and mild while the rest of the industry went the rmc intamin direction. And then rough manufacturers became smooth and then b and m got rough. And they waste so much space in their layouts. Theyre either formulaic or when they arent, it feels like filler. Their airtime hills are perfect on the hyper, but they put an airtime hill on a wing and everyone scratches their heads lol

I rode it before and I feel like he over exaggerated about some things like this ride can be a bit rough on some elements but it still is a decently fun ride.

I find it extremely difficult that you would call this a butter smooth ride... Also, I would NEVER adjust my ranking of a coaster in "hopes" for more views. I stand behind every single review of mine, and if my opinions change, I'll make a follow-up video.

@@XscreamThrills I felt absolutely zero rattle on any of my rides

I felt like this ride wasn’t thaat rough but it wasn’t that smooth either. Overall I still like the ride and this doesn’t really ruin the ride, so like my overall rating of this ride is like a 6.8/10 or 7/10

@@Themeparkfan630 it's over within 20 seconds. How does this addition make the park respectable whatsoever? If this was my home park, I'd be irritated that they mailed it in with this ride

​@@Themeparkfan630 oh i completely agree with you, enthusiasts are the worst. they complain to no end about TT2 being "nerfed", yet give Lightning Rod a total pass for taking out the best element in the ride with the launched lift hill. they're total hypocrites. that said, i dont blame them for disliking this ride. Dorney needed a much more complete addition to be taken seriously and pair with Steel Force, and it doesnt look like that will be coming any time soon

​@@marcusmcgraw3519 they just wanted something to replace stinger that's all.

Dude chill, sure this ride may not be the smoothest or longest, but not everything has to be pitch perfect for it to still be a fun ride. Imo this was a nice small addition for a new coaster.