Ever wondered how counter artillery fire works? In this short video, we break down the process in simple terms. #artillery #military #tactical #modernwarfare #fire
There are lot of people in the comment section confusing between 'Counter-artillery fire' and 'Artillery duel'. 'Counter-artillery fire' must include at least an aerial reconnaissance because the precondition is that the opposing artillery units are not within view of one another, hence the origin of the tactic is WW1. The firefight between artillery units in the 18~19th centuries is called 'Artillery duel' because in those ages there were no technologically sophiscated methods of reconnaissance that is comparable to the modern era like the aerial recon, or the satelite recon and more often than not artillery units had to b e within view of one another in order to exchange fire, hence the name 'artillery duel'.
@@chikntaco141 Not quite. The idea of a duel can only be defined by those coining it. In general duels are one on one fight, but what is the difference between a duel and a murder? When you murder someone you either do it by surprise or you face them and drag a fight? Not to mention, what about first blood duels where both sides only stop when their opponent draw first blood? In this case, what is the difference between a duel and a dogfight? A sniper picking off an entire squad of infantry? A battery of Cannons trying to outdo one another in a game of cat and mouse? Without the given parameters a war is no different than organized multiple homicides. But why is it called war?
I don't think airplanes are a complete necessity, because there are other methods like listening and triangulation that don't require airplanes, so all you need would be indirect artillery fire
Must include aerial recon? No. Maybe some kind of recon or intelligence gathering but not aerial. You could use sound and ground based obervers and more
“shoot-and-scoot” is still a pretty important part of avoiding couter-battery fire. There are weapon systems capable of firing and then getting on the move before their first shell even hits. This is important because it makes the traditional method of calculating the direction and distance the shells came from ineffective, since by the time the calculations are done and CB fire is initiatwd, the mobile artillery is no longer at the location they fired from.
There are systems, like specialized radar, that can detect and pinpoint artillery positions while the shell is still mid-flight. And with highly integrated artillery systems, the "shoot-and-scoot" needs to be even faster and faster, a different facet of the arms race.
@@thesovietduck2121 i might have known who he was 20 years ago. russian composer names? yeah that random info is long gone. If he was Austrian, German, Polish, Hungarian, or Italian I'd probably know him. I only know European composers.
its the modern academia problem: something only exists when someone important enough publishes a paper or book on it, regardless of how long a thing has existed in practice. So counter battery fire has likely existed as long as artillery batteries have (its an obvious reaction: shoot back at the guys shooting us), but some WWI desk office general coined the modern phrase so they get the credit for 'inventing it' (similar thing happened with WW2 general Guderian claiming to have invented most tank tactics himself)
The problem is definitional, I guess. Yes, cannons did fire and counter fire for centuries, probably even before Napoleon, but the modern iteration is different. It is about the radar systems and such which allow to pinpoint the location the fires are coming from.
Or at least as far back as mid-late 1800s when guns got longer range and could fire at targets that weren’t in los(not only because of walls and such like old mortars but because of range)
Interesting story i heard is that during desert storm there were cases of the allied troops having counter fire in the air before the iraqis first salvo had even landed
Both firing enemy artillery positions and any flying objects like drones get detected by radar. Some modern counter-battery radars can be integrated into the air defence network as well.
Even before that. In this case, it is a matter of actually knowing where you are shooting, often because of the aerial reconnaissance or counter-battery radars.
Indirect fire since ww1? Are you joking? Even without military knowledge, this should sounds strange... The video even explains how country(?) fire works...
He's aware for sure, Russia has just been using massed artillery lots more than precision guided munitions which Ukraine has been seen using more, that's where the comparison comes from, it's not some anti Russian propaganda just because it's stating facts
Counter-battery artillery fire goes farther back than WW1. There are numerous instances in the American Civil War, and I have no doubt that similar tactics and techniques were used as far back as the Thirty Years War.
Correction at those periods there was no way for artillery batteries to definitely spot one another and that is called an artillery duel, counter battery fire requires reconnaissance methods, thus increasing accuracy.
@@raydog0483 for something to continue to evolve means that it existed before the evolution. So what did radar and UAVs evolve from? It would have been nice if they expanded on that.
Please, next time pronounce B more clearly. As CP and CB are two completely different things as you know. (A slight more pressing on the B will clear it out) Thank you.
Ukrainian CB is so ineffective that Russia have to use older soviet, WW2 artillery pieces and artillery pieces made by russia smegkalka Russia is clearly winning guys 😂😂😂
