How Creator Killed Off LEGO's Classic Themes 

I defintely agree that some of LEGO's greatest themes like castle and pirates are very far from their former glory. What I would give to see sets again like those in the 80s and 90s, with lots of minifigures and tons of factions

I beg to differ that LEGO has diminished Castle, Space and Pirates. In my opinion, these themes were demolished because of licensed themes such as Lord of the Rings / The Hobbits, Pirates of the Caribbean, Harry Potter and of course, Star Wars. When LEGO released Space sets after 1978, there were examples of people building them into Star Wars vehicles after the hype of the Original Trilogy. In terms of design, LEGO finds it redundant to have 2 castle-like themes on shelves, or 2 pirates-like themes on shelves, or 2 space-like themes on shelves when one has more wide appeal, typically the licensed ones. And sadly as time marches on, the less they produce original themes like Galaxy Squad, Forestmen, or 2009 Pirates, the less people will choose them when they know licensed ones can be made. LEGO has been in a drought for the classic trio for a long time, and their resurgences fallen under the radar, but in my opinion, Creator is EXACTLY the way to reignite interest in them. For the past 3 years, they have guaranteed us a castle set, a pirates set, and a vikings set that otherwise would be left forgotten. Which each set being a 3-in-1, it provides enough opportunity to make multiple models to expand each main build, and with the same parts. This is nothing new for Creator, as they've done this in the past for train sets in order to provide a locomotive and passenger car and sometimes a caboose as 3 models in the same set. The 2017 dinosaur set that is still on shelves offers 4 models from its pieces to make 4 different types of dinosaurs (1 is an online instruction). But I also understand that an entire theme cannot be packaged into one singular retail box, and I would enjoy the original world-building of classic themes again. I would hope that sales of the Creator 3-in-1 classic sets would prompt interest into making a full theme again for castle and space minimum, vikings is more difficult but not impossible as it has been done before.

In my opinion, it's more likely that licensed themes are cancelling out unlicensed, as they sell better with child and adult demographics. I'm thankful that Creator atleast brings us sets like these.

I think this is also true for other themes such as space and others But yeah we need dedicated castle and pirate themes And there was also the creator Viking ship as well which Vikings was never as big but it’s worth mentioning

I have an older friend that has kids and he noticed that Lego sets do not have the simple pieces like they used to have, like for example the classic 1x4 brick and so on, they're all weird complicated pieces for kids. He wanted to buy something for his kids but he did not find any cool set like they used to be for them. And then I realized that yes, there are so many complciated pieces that are cool to look at when everything is built but it ruins the playable factor.

I have to agree with other commenters. It's a pity that you blame Lego's last pure theme (Creator 3 in 1) for the demise of other classic themes. It's the last theme that provided us with original ideas and alternative builds, both core elements of Lego. If anything, licensing is to blame for this. It has sucked the soul out of Lego for the past 20 years, reducing it to unimaginative, expensive merchandise, and it is getting worse every year.

Agreed! Pirates and castle themes where the main atraction when I was a kid, and since I am back on lego colection recentlly (just build and collect) I would love to see a proper Pirates and Castle themes, when I was a kid I saw them only in pictures, because in my country back then those sets and lego in general was not avelaible officially at all... Cheers!

Not to mention it turned them into huge expensive adult collectables.

I miss the castle and pirate themes I really wish LEGO brought them back

For me, I've never been too worried about the castle and pirates theme being introduced into the 'Creators' line of sets and think it can be a good thing for a few reasons. Consumer interests have changed since the themes were first introduced and while there will always be a fanbase for these themes. General consumers may like different themes inside LEGO or outside with a different product. I believe that LEGO introduces Castle and Pirates into Creator as a way of 'Market research' to gauge audience interest and if a set/theme does well then they can justify allocating a larger budget towards a whole theme instead of a single set. Also having a familiar theme keeps returning LEGO fans, as they are more likely to buy the set as it's a theme that they are familiar with. Either that's with them remembering it from their childhood or some other reason. LEGO now is a far different company than it was pre 2000's and their attitudes have changed in order to survive in the current toy market. Creator/IDEAS allows these themes to be given a second chance that they may not have been given otherwise, so for me LEGO are doing a good job and the sets seem successful, otherwise they wouldn't of greenlit a second Pirates themed set Eldorado Fortress.

I guess the main issue with the older themes is that the reboots just didn't sell enough, and failed to get the interest of modern kids. Hence, shoutouts in Creator and occasional Direct-To-Customer sets would be deemed economically feasible, a full-blown theme would not...

To see so much passion to bring these themes back, hopefully Lego sees this wonderfully done video.

I don't agreed with your opinion . The Pirates theme sets was put on hold , because of Pirates of the Caribbean releases which would cannibalize the sells , same thing happen with the Castle theme and Lord the the Rings/The hobbit sets and Space theme and Star Wars sets . And i find the Creators sets Practical to get more spare parts for Mocs

I wish they had bought back more classic sets or repops/vintage ones for us since they are so much expensive

I just got the Creater Pirates Ship, it hits differently. Castle Knight is my childhood, really wanting a castle now as well, I was just thinking about the creator one haha.

I just got into classics sets with the barracuda bay 3 in 1 pirate , lions knight castle and Viking ship and I am going to pick up the Viking village when it releases. But I am a kid and I want to play with Lego but if is spent a month saving up for a new castle or a pirate ship for it to come with 3 minifigs and no small set like the classic wave that I can by to build a army. I am going to turn to knockoff and that’s what I did I baught knock off knight because at least they know what we want. I also want to say that as a kid who is into knights and pirates it pains me to see that if I want to upgrade my world it would cost me hundreds of dollars

I wish they’d give some attention to the old Wild West and adventure theme like they did with castles and pirates

Definitely contributes to the problem. When I look at the online lego shop, I browse by theme. No Castle/Viking/Space? I don't look further. Turns out the space/castle stuff gets hidden away in City and Creator, meaning those who WANT the stuff aren't being directed to it. And also, I'm sick of Licensed themes. I don't care how much money it makes, people aren't buying licensed lego because it's lego, they're buying it because of the license. The most I can do with licensed sets - aside from pay more than normal - is part them out for MOCs, but then I'm saddled with license-specific printed bricks, stickers, and flesh minifigures. Castle, Space and Pirates need to return. Even if they don't release LOADS of these sets, they should just maintain a relatively "okay" stock that can last them for years of sales. Offer them as cheaper alternatives to the licensed themes. Yes, it eats into the same market, but people will choose which they prefer. I want my classic themes back, because I'm a bit tired of my only "own-brand" license options these days being City.

The problem with the Castle reboots is that they seemed too cartoony and geared towards small children.

I will never understand why lego fans always bunch together all the medieval themes! Unless there is any direct connection betweeb then, those are different themes that just happen to have the same general thematic...

Perhaps instead creator I a safe ring fence to try castle or pirates and if they sell well then a reboot would be considered… that’s what I’d do

Great vid and all but last castle theme was 5 years ago, not a decade. Nexo knights is a castle theme with a futuristic aesthetic and yeah it might not be the "classic" castle theme but it still is one and should be considered as one. Plus let's not forget the amount of new pieces it gave to the table. I think it shouldn't be considered a failure.

I see another problem holding these themes back from revival is Ninjago. Ninjago was a complete surprise that has become one of their best and longest-running themes ever. Not only that, but it’s also spawned shows, games, movies, and other merchandise. LEGO clearly wants to capture that lightning in a bottle again, and we’ve seen obvious imitative attempts with themes such as Chima, Nexo Knights, and Monkey Kid. They know Ninjago can’t last forever, so they’ll probably keep prioritizing these newer themes until something that can replace Ninjago sticks.

I agree with your sentiment but creator didn’t kill castle creator and icons are what keeps castle and other classic themes alive. Lord of the rings killed castle. Star Wars and now Avatar killed space, probably city also. And Pirates of the Caribbean killed Pirates my point is all Lego’s classic themes have been replaced by leinced theme and their original themes survive by creator, icons, and ideas.

i agree i really hope lego get back to lego castle especialy from 2009-2013

In with the new, out with the old seems to be LEGO's mantra nowadays. ...which goes for both their products and their fans =P

As i remember there is a new them of castle every decade. Crossing my fingers very hard for a elf or black falcon theme!

I don’t buy much creator anymore because I’m not happy with the direction the theme is going

Nice premise of the video, but no. There is many reasons why we don't have classic themes, and Creator is not one of them. Overabundance of licensed themes combined with Ninjago cannibalizing anything that's trying to coexist next to it is.

Every time you say a word, you should have that word flash on the screen real big.

As a adult i like the big and expensive sets

agree with the video but damn that text is annoying to look at

3 in 1’s are a challenge as a pro designer cause not only do you have to work under a budget for 1 cool looking set you have make the limited parts count work for 3. I love 3 in 1’s for the creativity it stands for but as a pro designer working under briefs & budgets it’s def a pain in the butt 😆 great video Richie 👍 you know I want nostalgic LEGO sets.

Those sets are Memberberries for people who still think LEGO cares about its fans. It's time to move on. She's just not into you anymore (I actually saw her hanging out with that DOTS guy and some 18+ Sets ... dude even brought her flowers )

If Lego had to make another 3N1 castle set I would have them make a set combining Wolf pack renegades ( the blue wagon ) and skeleton surprise, the set has a skeleton,Lion knight,Two Wolfpack thieves

I think that if Lego used classic style faces on the minifigures they would sell better

The Lego Creator revolution and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race

Don’t forget Lego space!

Say it like it is brother!

That thumbnail is pure clickbait. Creator clearly didn’t kill any theme. Lego is a toy, it’s made with children in mind. Lego make thorough research to get to know interest of kids of today. And kids today are more interested in gadgets and social network trends than in pirates or castles. There’re no special themes for that because they wouldn’t sell among Lego’s primary target audience. And for afols who want to recreate their childhood there’re big expensive sets like Barracuda Bay and Lion Castle - a single set instead of a lot of smaller ones which could be harder to obtain. If you want to blame any theme for killing other themes, blame ninjago. It absorbed mechs, digital reality, underwater themes, magic-related stuff etc. If anything, we should be grateful that Lego acknowledges us older fans by giving us creator sets reminiscent of older themes when they can’t revive the whole line of products.

So where are castle and space themed chess sets?!

I find last line of castle and pirates to be quite mediocre No more than 2 factions for castle, too cartoonish faces and very colorful - that is just boring :( No more experiments and subfactions( Probably the same about pirates, also 3 last lines of pirates basically replicate themselves from year to year, that is not a capturing feature in any way

Seriously stop with the flashes giant text. It's obnoxious. Just show old Creator sets.

I see the creator line not as a replacement but as a testing ground to if kids would like a castle line seeing how well some of these sets sell. They just cant say the old fans will buy like crazy look what happened to bionicle

These sets being released under Creator isn't the cause of the themes' absence, it's a symptom. Corporate probably decided against releasing full themes for one reason or another and the designers decided to make these Creator sets as a sort of consolation prize for fans. Also Castle has been undergoing a pretty big revival as an adult-oriented reboot of Classic Castle. The Lion Knights, Black Falcons, and Forestmen have all made grand returns, even if it isn't in full themes.

I grew up with lego Kingdoms (2010-2012) and I LOVED it, I genuinely think it’s Lego’s best castle theme, it had a great colour dynamic and the box art is BEAUTIFUL!!!!, it had everything, civilians, A simple story, and great sets, I didn’t have a connection with pirates unfortunately:( Personally I love the 3n1 castle ( since I can afford it ) but it’s just not the same as things were once before, there’s no battle packs, being able to get knights for cheap/cheaper ways is always good. I know maybe those castle themes didn’t sell AMAZING! But there’s still many many fans, the lion knights castle alone is bringing in knew fans. Simply put give us a wave of 7 castle sets that is all I ask lol I also agree with Maniac, Licensed themes have killed original ones ( I think Ninjago is also to blame somewhat ) have a good day Mate!

I would love if Lego did battle packs for the Black Falcons like they do for Star Wars.

From my perspective, Lego Ninjago has absorbed all original story themes (like Exo Force), City has absorbed all exploration themes (such as arctic, underwater, mining, and space) ad well as licensed sets taking the rest. Creator is the only way that Lego can release these classic themes as make money, because they simply don’t make money as they used to.

I wouldn’t consider Creator to be the thing to blame for a lack of castle and pirates. I’d look at it more like Creator is the only way that the designers are able to make castle and pirate sets, because they haven’t been allowed to designs a whole line. But I’m definitely not defending Lego here. They really do need to bring back their classic themes in a capacity that isn’t one off expensive sets. I’m just thankful creator allows the designers to give us just a little bit of castle during these dark times.

This is a backwards way of looking at things, and I don't mean "backwards" as an insult. Saying that Creator "killed" or "replaced" the classic themes is a mentality that is very much looking at what we know now and coming to conclusions based on that. Creator didn't "kill" these themes; they ended themselves when they stopped being as profitable as they needed to be in one way or another. If anything, Creator is reviving these themes by having sets that pay tribute to them. It's not as if there's a boardroom meeting saying "We can have a Creator Castle or we can have a new full Castle theme", it's "We can have a Creator Castle or we can have nothing". Now I would love to see both of these themes come back, but if we're going to discuss it, we should be honest about how this stuff actually works and come up with ideas from there instead of making a simplified narrative with an easy solution. Additionally, not to be mean, but maybe consider changing your editing choices. Every word you say popping up on screen, 1 to 2 words at a time is a bit obnoxious.

Honestly if they dont see profit, it makes sense they wouldnt release a whole theme with a few half arsed sets and a few great sets. Instead just release one awesome set with 3 different options. I like it

I agree. YET, I realy wish for return of different theme: Adventure. Not only it is nostalgic, not only is one of most famous themes, not only it is opportunity for different sets (vehicules, buildings, ruins, huge creatures), not only it can give us a lot of varietys (new corners of the world, characters, villains, storys) but also it is great material for tv show.

This is pissing me off, that Castle, Pirates or Wild West are no longer available and forgotten. 80% of Lego is now licensed bullshit.

As a pirates superfan, i have never heard someone spit this much facts. Ever. This is the most true video I have ever seen. The 2015 sets didn’t do it for me, and I only collect the vintage ones as the rebooted themes were mid at best (aside from the imperial flagship) and I was a baby when those 2009 sets released so my only chances of getting any pirates sets are from ebay. Amazing video!

I agree, castle and pirates deserve their own theme. As does Vikings. I thought the recent Viking ship and Midgard serpent was awesome but much like the recent pirate and castle sets it was released under the creator line, so unlikely we will get more sets like it.

I blame licensed themes and Ninjago moreso than Creator. Look at the last few years. Want a Tron/reboot-esque video game theme? Make it Ninjago. A tabletop RPG castle setting? Make it Ninjago. Islanders? Ninjago. Underwater? Ninjago. Ninjago has absorbed adventure themes that would've had their own aesthetic and characters years ago. I'm surprised there isn't a pirate wave in there. Maybe they're still getting to it. Heck, even city has absorbed a few things. Instead of another Rock Raiders/Power Miners theme, we get a City mining sub theme. As for licensed themes, a lot of the classic original themes we like were just Lego's "ripoffs" before they could get the licenses. Classic space is just Star Wars and Star Trek. Adventurers is Indiana Jones. Now that they HAVE those licenses, why bother with their own version? Personally... I'm thankful for Creator. Creator is the compromise, it's the closest we'll ever come to seeing those themes proper again, and it's nice of the designers put so much care into the secondary and tertiary builds that you can in effect build a proxy wave by getting multiples.

ok the GIANT text is annoying as all hell.

Ok, that fading in from white typography style you've got going on there has got to go. Seriously, this video is unwatchable because of it. Even a blank black screen would be better. It's so awful that it undermines the points you're actually making, which are good points!

I don’t agree with your opinion. We just need minifigures and accessories for factions available as battle packs or just on Pick a Brick. The 3 in 1 Creator series is a great idea and they should release another castle in this series with a different faction. Many of the smaller builds in castle are just not that great in design. A 3 in 1 can incorporate those not so great small builds. The minifigures and accessories are really what is important! We need more medieval mini upper and mini lower designs with accessories (weapons, shields, streamers, etc.)

I really really want all these themes. I’m only 13 so I did not get to experience a SINGLE ONE OF THESE themes. It’s not fair because these days, Lego is focusing too much on licensed themes, and it’s just not very creative anymore. And old sets cost WAAAAY too much. Lego IM BEGGING YOU HEAR US we NEED THESE ORIGINAL THEMES PLEASE!

Great video. Couldn’t agree more!

To me it seems like lego is just testing the waters before dropping a full castle or pirate theme. It's been shown in the past that if a set sells well enough it can be spun into its own theme. This is the case with minecraft and sonic, which both got their own themes after successful ideas sets. Considering how castle and pirates have failed in the past, this seems smarter than just dropping a full 7 set wave out of nowhere. With ninjago being rebooted this year its the perfect time for them to bring back more original themes.

I beg to differ. The lego 3 in 1 Creator pirate ship was actually genius. Lego released a single set but actually released an entire pirate range. We had Barracuda Bay in 2020. For those that built the ship, the island was left over. Lego brought out the creator 3 in 1 and BOOM, you have the option to build an Inn, and place it on the island. If you left Barracuda Bay as the island, you had the option to add 'skull island' build from the creator set as an addition. If you built the pirate ship, you can leave Barracuda Bay as an island ship wreck and still have a decent ship. But I believe lego wanted fans to buy THREE Creator sets and make all 3 builds. Therefore, you have 4 or 5 pirate themed sets from 2 purchases. Very clever, except for the replication of minifigures, but those can be swapped around to prevent duplicates.

Ugh... I'd drop the fade in text effect... it's taxing on the eyes and you're gonna give people seizures...

"Generic" themes like Castle or Pirates are far more beneficial to children, the primary demographic of Lego, because of one key feature: the room the themes leave for imagination and play. Sure, themes like Star Wars or the Superheroes lines allow for it with characters beloved by all sorts- but there isn't much room for customization. I remember creating entire worlds and characters using such themes as a base when I was a kid, but I don't think that's really possible with what's been shipped out over the past ten years.

Back in the day, Lego's original IPs went so hard and were the only thing driving sales besides Star Wars. Now, Star Wars is gutted and all the focus is on licensed themes. We need a healthy licensed/unlicensed Mix in my opinion.

LAUGHS in Wild West theme being nearly 30+ year hold. ... And no Lone Ranger doesn't count.

Richie, you keep dropping bangers! I 100% agree with you, though I do understand why LEGO is branding classic sets under Creator, as in the past, they didn't sell well. With the Vikings Village coming out later this year, even though I'm hyped, I would rather a full Vikings line.

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Constantly flashing the text of what you're saying onscreen is honestly pretty annoying.

Look lego castle failed over and over again, funnily enough it was one the first ever cancelled lines, the second brick based one, before being rebooted, in America at first, at which point it had it's most famous run. Than that ended with the failure of Knight kingdom one, then the fantasy era was prematurely cancelled, then kingdom came around, and got cancelled, than kingdom came around and had one wave which failed miserably, nexo Knights, was the worst selling of legos big bang themes, the only to have there tv show cancelled.

I wish LEGO can bring back "Castle/Kingdom" again, but instead of being a lot of knights vs something. I would like to see a Lego Medieval Town. Sets examples: 1. Castle, 2. Blacksmith, 3. Tavern/Inn, 4. Tailor Shop, 5. Town Center with Street Markers, tree and well, Stables. 6. Fishing Docks with a big and small Boat. 7. Windmill with Crops. villagers. 8. Farming Barn Animals. villagers. 9. A Bank or TAX collector with a Robin hood. 10. Bandit camp. 11. Cottage Home. (I bet alot of people would by to make a big village or town.) 12. Small bridge with a watch tower. 13. A Dragon Cave with treasure and Skelton. 14. Wizard Tower or Shop. 15. Barber shop. 16. A adventure Guild.

Its not about lego didnt make profit on pirates or caste. Its all about politics. No caste, no pirates, no western, no gas station (rip octan), no farm. Yes they did small farm set but when they release this small farm set, they get attaced right away that lego promotes killing chicken, pigs etc. Its Sick. You get green energy everywhere, even lgbt you have on new sets! Look close on it

To this day i have my fingers crossed to see a red indian village set come to life

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As somebody born in 99 i will say that i grew up with some of the best and original lego themes and sets. I could say my generation got spoiled with amazing sets. When i was very young we got the orient expedition sets. A bit later we got the lego exo-force sets, which were amazing to play with as the exo suits fit nicely with for example the bionicles of that era. Not too long after we got the lego castle, which was and still is my favorite theme. Followed up by themes like lego agents, space police, mars mission, power miners, atlantis and ninjago. This doesnt even cover a lot of the city related stuff and other (licensed) themes, but it was just to name a few. I feel however that the amount of new/unique themes such as these, has decreased a lot for some years now. Lego has delivered nice sets over the years dont get me wrong, but it doesnt feel the same as for example the 00s. Please forgive some spelling/grammar mistakes, english isn't my first language

This video is written like a paper under the word count that you struggled to make long enough to present.

Hi, interesting video! I just wanted to share that the script flashing by on screen is quite straining for the eye. It's usually only used to emphasize the most important word or sentence of the script. For me, I would prefer more in depth images of the different sets and subtitles along it over the flashing text. Good day!

I disagree, as Creator 3in1 tries to keep them alive in some way, but now that we have ICONS it's a step up/a direct comparison to those original themes of Classic Castle, Pirates and Space, literally delivering remakes of previous sets, in that sense ICONS has now taken the role of makeing a few sets again and Creator fills in for more affordable sets without committing to a theme that won't do the numbers that an IP Medieval, Sci-Fi, Pirates aka LOTR, STAR WARS and Pirates of the Caribbean do/used to do. LICENSED THEMES/IP brands have killed the classic trilogy of themes as LEGO has turned to mainstream/widely known alternatives. The themes they produce themselves have replaced the classic trilogy and even then not all are successful. Amd do the middling reactions we saw with Bionicle 2015 and Pirates i doubt we'll see them as full themes ever again.

I don't know if Creator ruined those old themes. I think it's more like a way for Lego to give a bit of nostalgia (maybe) to fans of the classic themes. I also think modern Lego often times fails to deliver the full vibe of those classic themes when they do release them. The designs and parts, colors are too modern. Things end up too detailed and... rounded. They're modern. The mini figures don't have 2 dots for eyes and a line for a smile. If they re-issue a space man mini figure, he's not hearing a classic Boba Fett/madalorian shaped helmet, he's wearing a motorcycle helmet. They are not but they are now the same. Even that picture in this of the 2015 Pirates re-boot Minifigures.... Those mini figures are not putting out the classic vide. I don't know exactly what it is, the colours? The details in the faces? That does notnexcite me, personally, mind you I'm an "adult". What I, as an adult would like to see them do, because back then there was no Lego Star Wars s, or Marvel, or Disney, or Jurassic, no licencing at all. It was Lego and that's it. I think they should ditch themes like Ninjago, and whatever other "LEGO Themes" they have going on and take it back for real. Ditch themes, and bring back others "authentically". But then, who knows if those would sell? Space, Castle, Pirates, Monster Hunters. IMO Monster Hunters is one of their best. It could have been. That said I as an adult love the Creator theme. I did love it anyway. In the early 2010's. I really like the building sets. Houses. FULL houses like 2 of my favorites (I own) 31038 Changing Seasons or 31035 Beach Hut. Those are really great little sets I forgot I have. We need more of those.

I don't like that "adult sets" are always high-end expensive stuff, just because were adults doesn't mean we can spend 200$ every month for a set. I personally wanted some kind of playset with a display touch, like the dark trooper attack set but with a black display bottom like the star wars diorama sets, that would be cool.

I think original themes in generql are dying off besides ninjago and city, the only one I've seen recently are hidden side and monkey kid, I know one is discontinued already

Maybe there is some truth to this, but I think Licensed sets are what’s killing Lego themes. They are overpriced and it’s only a matter of time before people get burnt out by them. They also leave less to the imagination for kids. The main issue I have with 3 in 1 sets, are the brick built animals. I think Lego should release Castle, Pirate, and Space slowly but surely and stick store shelves with smaller affordable sets. Like the Forestman’s Hideout that was a GWP only….

We have the same problem with LEGO City. E.g. the Sea Explorers destroyed LEGO Aqua Raiders or LEGO Atlantis.

"instead of shoving $200 sets down their throats" OMG, yes. Has LEGO not seen the economy this century!? Their product is not as evergreen as their rampant licensing would suggest... but why stop at Castle and Pirate? They should have like, a rotating menagerie of old-school "LEGO Originals" or "LEGO Throwbacks" or something available through online orders....

I wish lego would make more "Classic" branded sets like theyve been doing these last couple years but in smaller set forms. The classic space ship and classic castle set they released this / last year are amazing and I want more modern day normal sets that just have good ol classic simple faced yellow minifigs. The vibe of classic themes and especially the look of the classic minifig face and torso prints just look so simple and well done / all you need imo. Classic sets are simple and feel inspiring in a way, modern sets feel really cluttered and busy, full of special or complex molds and prints. I was born in 2000, I grew up with bionicle from about 2005 as a child until its end, I was maybe 8 when Pirates 2 was out and although my parents couldnt afford much lego (and when i did get anything it was bionicle) I have good memories of looking at the lego pirates sets at Barnes and Nobles wishing I could get one (Even the cheapest small sets). me and my brothers were also given our dads legos from when he was a kid which contained SO many legos, parts, and minifigs from classic space and classic pirates and I just LOVED the simplicity and vibe of those sets, the minifigs, the box art, etc. (they just look SO good even on the new "Classic" adult sets released last year). I know many didnt LOVE pirates 2009, and even though I really wanted the sets I didnt love it to the degree I liked the older version because it just didnt have the same vibe or look. the same went for Bionicle when they rebooted it. They stripped it of the dark tone / vibe which was a KEY part in making the lore good and "cool" to kids, and the villians were just terrible, boring, unrememberable as sets, etc. I did kind of like how most of the first Toa wave sets looked, but the second toa wave / the G2 toa "nuva" did NOT look good imo. I feel like I havent REALLY enjoyed a classic lego theme since when ninjago released up to the snakes series, Monster Fighters, and Power Miners (which was my probably my second favorite line growing up aside from bionicle) and I know many people feel the same. I find it hard imaging what kind of lego modern day kids are growing up with given its pretty much all liscensed stuff :/

so based on your logic, people build builds? that is as logical as calling foods for eats, how many eats did you eat today? see it makes no sense, instead of calling these constructions for for builds, call them either by the name of what was built like a castle a car or what other things they are, or call them constructions. seriously humanity gets dumber and dumber every time I check the internet.

Scan the QR code on the back of the instructions on any set you build and tell them we want this theme back under it's own banner. If enough do that I believe Lego will bring them back. They take in feedback better that way than through a RU-vid video because of the constant negativity from every one about everything they do basically.

I think you should remember set LEGO SET 5929-1 - Knight and Castle and LEGO Castle: Creative Building Set (6193) which were both creator castle sets that came before.

The choice was never Creator or Classic reboot. It was Creator or nothing. Companies don't create unprofitable products or repeat failures. Fans didn't show up for Blacksmith or Barracuda Bay. Kids weren't interested and adults bought small numbers. Lego didn't kill the themes, consumers did. I'm just glad they actually release these one off classic sets. At least I can buy 4 of them and do some custom builds, and order dozens of army building figures from Bricks and Pieces. Without these sets, the Lego medieval Renaissance would have never happened. It's kinda sad that the price of many of the collectible minifigure series knights have gone through the roof since options are so limited, but the community would have never gone on a medieval binge if not for that Creator 3-in-1 castle set.

I’d argue that the problem stems from the corporate IPs rather than Creator as the corporate IPs effectively ended all of their in-house lines. Take their Space line as a good example. We’ve barely had anything for it because why buy space when you can buy Star Wars? They even tried to do a small revival of the theme in the late 2000’s, but that ended without much success. It’s the same with Pirates. It’s no coincidence that it magically stopped around the time LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean came out… The in-house themes that have continued, though, are ones without any corporate theme such as LEGO City, which has nothing comparable to it and, as a result, persists to this day.

If they were to go on-line only, I would be open to the idea of them reissuing long out of print sets, maybe with updated features and build techniques. I, for one, only managed a few small sets of any one thing in the 90s, missed out entirely on a lot of things in the early aughts, and would love to go back and fill in the gaps, or army build. For instance, I'm a Black Knights fan. I have all of three sets from the collection, though. It would be nice to fill in there, as none of those sets are an actual castle build. Something else I remember from the classic castle and space lines were the modularity. Castle especially had portion sets that could link together with multiple versions of it self to make a bigger whole, as well as little add-on portions to add flavor. But, someone reviewing the Futuron Space line pointed out a missed opportunity with specialty pods kitted for different tasks for their space vehicles. I'd love to see THAT, too. And, with a lot of the new Ball/Socket parts available, they could revisit some of the droic/bots/mech builds and give them much more poseability.

I couldn't have said it better myself! Personally, I want LEGO Kingdoms back or something very similar without as much fantasy. (Also, I was the 501st like on this video)

On one hand there’s no full fledged castle theme but Lego only allows me to buy 2 pcs of 31120 “to be fair to other customers.” Talk about ironic :)) On the note to 31120 3in1 castle set, not a single horse, really? Why?!

The Lego themes that should always be on shelves or only take short breaks. Castle, Pirates, Space in some form, Ninjago, City/Friends. For Licences themes Star Wars, and alternate waves of Marvel/DC.

Creator didn't kill these themes, licensed themes and the fans did. Castle got 'replaced' by lord of the rings and now Harry Potter, space got replaced by Star Wars and pirates by the movies. And the recent themes didn't sell well. Space got some reboots, like Galaxy Squad, and nobody bought them. Neither did people buy the last Castle or Nexo Knights (which is a castle theme, it doesn't matter what you 'consider a castle theme'). If you want more castle and pirates, you should have bought all of the castle and pirates sets to show lego there is interest. You should be thankful that creator has the odd set still, otherwise there would be nothing at all

It's just hyper commercialisation, you've seen all through the last few decades that Lego has morphed from being a children's toy to a company that almost predominantly serves adult customers spending $200+ on a set. Genuine parents looking for Lego sets for their children are loath to spend that kind of money and children don't "play" with those sets. There are still many great Lego sets at lower price points but now there are competitor brands who offer similar products at lower prices.

Honestly, I think these sets will be back one day. The real culprits for original lines fading out; Star wars, Harry Potter, licensed themes in general, they'll eventually fall off. Management will change the way the company operates. Et cetera. It may not be for a while. But as long as Lego still exists, there will still be the potential for original lines to make a comeback. In the meantime, I'd say creator is one of the few things keeping the classic legacy alive. The one problem I've had is similar to yours, though. So long as the only things keeping classic lines afloat are 100$ Creator 3-in-1 sets, 1-400$ legacy tributes, and "20$" GWPs that actually require you to spend 200$ or spend 40$ on the secondary market, accessibility will remain more of a concern to me. Personally, as someone on disability payments who can't work, I can't always afford a ONE hundred dollar set in the month, between rent and groceries (both of which thankfully supported by my loving spouse so i CAN have some enrichment in my life). Given thats the case for me, its probably worse for low-income children, who not only might not have the money for these large original lego sets, but even if they do, they and their parents would likely much rather spend it on multiple smaller sets, or even multiple hobbies.

As a old-school fan from Pirates and Castle from the early 90's I'm really disappointed with how TLG is handling classic themes like Castle, Pirates and Space.

Just remembering LEGO Racers from 1999, when you had different sets and bosses you raced against makes my heart beat again. If they made a similaf game today I think it would be a big hit.