I'm ethnically Russian but grew up in Belgium around only Belgians. My parents, who migrated here, also integrated from day one and taught me Belgian values, traditions and lifestyle as much as they could so I'd never feel like an outsider. But what happened was that everyone else around me labelled me 'Russian' because of my name and my speech impediment (that was assumed came from my "Russian" upbringing but, plot twist, I barely speak nor understand Russian) and my shyness (I didn't speak nor reacted much to other kids, so they'd assume I didn't understand that they were saying). In conclusion, I'm okay with societies actively embracing multiculturalism, but when you start pointing out everyone with a foreign name to teach other children about foreigners, it hurts the child in particular in the long run. Not every foreigner grew up with "their" culture and are not meant to think that they should. I'm now 20 and have finally started to be stubborn, so when people ask me about my 'homecountry' (even though I've explicitly pointed out that I don't have anything to do with Russia), I speak about Belgium. Because that's my home country, where I grew up in, where I feel comfortable... Not Russia. The only time I visited there was for my grandmother, not for my "yearly visit to my entire family and live there for 2 months" (multiple "Belgian" people have openly expressed this assumption to me when I told them about my vacation to that ONE TIME in Russia). The culture in Eastern Europe are not the same as I grew up in and know and will teach my future children. People should learn that. So diversity =/= "every foreigner is different and doesn't belong here so we should "learn" about them and label them explicitly even though it's not necessary so we should make them feel even more alienated than they are. Yes, let's ask this person every time to say something in "their" language and ask where "they come from" and how often they travel to "their" country." Let them be and accept them how they are. And not only if they actually live with a different cultural upbringing, but also when they live the same way. Accept that certain foreigners might live in your country and are fully integrated like non-foreigners. They exist too.
What you see is what you get. We have been culturally reinforced and stereotyped by our neigh-bour , our parents, our friends, etc. Once attitudes are formed and fixated, it's very difficult to change especially when you are being conditioned with certain norms at a very young age. 👨💻😎🤢🤖🐭🐑🦅👁️🦾👩🏻❤️💋👩🏿💇♂️🚴♂️🎭🥌🎺
Nice points! One thing that we have been thinking about is how population density might relate to individualism/collectivism, with a push toward collectivism in more dense populations.
Thank you I am learning a lot! This is what school should teach! Individual culture Prioritize self-improvement Independent and self-reliant Weaker in team collaboration Collectivist Needs of the group come first (the group: family or team or nation) Extremely close to each other Brings about US VS. THEM mindset
Yes in Indian culture a lot of people emphasis on family than individual. Our parents follow something called "I take care of you when your young you take care of me when I am old".
Precisely, humans act as if they have no freewill anymore, they're bound by certain social stigmas. Like in Japan for example, their culture frowns upon free thinkers whom question the path their society is taking, they absolutely despise any individual who 'rocks the boat' per say. But, sometimes conflict brings about healthy change for a society, just look at how the colonists in America broke free from the tyranny of King George, that was a conflict worth having.
"There are no ordinary people. You have never met a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, art, civilizations, these are mortal and their lives are to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals which we work with, joke with, marry, snub and exploit immortal horrors or everlasting splendors."-C.S. Lewis
I come from a collectivist environment and I did grow up around people telling me to look out for everyone. Which I partly think is alright, but in the end there is only one. You.
I’m from England. It’s so individualistic and emotionally suppressed here. Like robotic, compared to other cultures I’ve experienced. I yearn to be part of a collectivistic culture and family :(
@@mohdebrahim4572 the amplitude of emotion is of a considerable magnitude less than many other countries around the world. Sweden is also having this problem, and yes, I call it a problem.
@@AdamSababa I think because society tends to be more "formal" and "working/materialic goal" oriented rather than connecting with people there's pros and cons in every society. Spain is an example of valuing relationships but their economy isn't that great at the end it's all about values.
I am watching this because i don't have a personality and that's why I don't have friends either. Personality makes me feel like we are characters of video game and makes me believe we are created by God who made us to follow a certain algorithm. And everything is controlled by God. We are not who we are. We are those whom society makes us believe we are. I know It's very complex but It's freaking true.
I disagree. I think that the cultures that have high uncertainty avoidance have a greater tendency to supress their emotions in order to avoid conflict and also avoid "burdening" others with their problems.
I have to say I disagree with the placement of one item between the two lists: how emotional someone is. The "avoid uncertainty" might FEEL more emotion, but they certainly don't SHOW it! In really conservative, strictly-avoidant, go-by-the-book cultures, emotional suppression is expected from a pretty young age. On the other hand, people who are open-minded and diverse can tolerate more of a display of emotion. (Perhaps in the study the people seemed to FEEL less neurotic/emotional, because they are able to SHOW how they really feel and get it off their chest!) Trust me, societies who value rules do NOT embrace people who are emotional/neurotic. Self-control and conformity is the expectation.
please take it easy while talking, you need more pauses so the people that´s watching the video can understand and process the information you´re talking about, i felt like i was bombarded of information and had to reboot the video more than once I say this because is a theme that not everyone talks, so it´s normal don´t knowing pretty much about it
I don't agree with some of the things in the video, for example classification of religions into high and low uncertainty avoidance levels. I believe it is more complex than that.
My hypothesis from my own experience, collectivism society can lead to even more pesky and harder to fix psychological problems and misconducts. It's harrowing and super horrible to someone who was deemed not part of their group. Especially Islamism.. 😂
I'm in the Islamic world; it's simpler not to change the rules, I think that's why I hated USA when I was studying there, and sometimes when anyone can talk the desires will be more common than the right thing to do, like desires aren't always a good thing, but the more open-minded are people, the more bad things will happen because people will do what they want and not the right thing. That's why I believe that I love to be in the none open-minded culture than the open-minded culture.
And that is also (well one reason at least)why you will find conflict with others in the world many of whom do not believe in absolutely fixed morals and in fact find the idea disquieting at best and abhorrent and disgusting at worst.
2:55 collectivism "generally associated with women"...what does that even mean? and where are your references, for anything you deliberately say here, please??
Women look for sisterhood support when problems occur think break ups or being pregnant. Men handle problems by escaping reality and isolating themselves which can lead to catastrophic consequences like alcoholism, addictions, mental problems, suicide. It also explains higher rates of suicide among men.
@@BowlerTheHatGuy Traditonally western cultures sure, I'd hardly call it universal though. Even in the west men are encouraged to feel the problem is more often than not as I see it that they are encouraged to feel things like anger or pride far out of proportion with the rest of their range so to speak. Sorry if I didn't communicate that well.
Could you give us a concrete example of an individualist society vs. a collectivist society in the real world. I'll limit you to human existence and planet earth. This sounds like the Ayn Rand word of nonsense. Oh and I need an example of which countries which score high on eroticism. I mean you said it was your research.
Classical examples for individualist and collectivist cultures would be american and chinese culture respectively. And he said neuroticism, not eroticism (which would make no sense at all), however I would also find some examples interesting
@@riccardodell9011 I thought the word, eroticism, was mentioned too, but then I realized it was neuroticism instead. The person didn't enunciate their words clearly enough.
It’s nice how you couldn’t even correctly spell a sentence correctly. The “n” in the beginning of your sentence is supposed to be capitalized. I can’t possibly imagine how sad your class is.
As a person who learns things slowly, it was hard to listen and watch at the same time without repeating the video again and again to understand but thanks. It really helped me with my assignment :))
Islam is in some ways conservative yes, however it is far from Xenophobic since all that is required to be a muslim is that you have faith in the religion coincidentally the first person to give the call of prayer at a mosque was an African ex-slave. Moving on to the idea of questioning is not allowed, in Islam there is a quote from the Koran that states "Seek Knowledge From Cradle To Grave" which means essentially that you should always question and seek improvement of yourself. Generally I wouldn't care to type a comment like this out however I do feel that if you are going to categorise things like religions it is best to do your research. I wish I could advocate for Catholicism, Judaism and Shintoism but I do not know nearly enough to do so. Before anyone thinks I am offended the truth is I like content that factual and not based upon an opinion or preconceived notion.
@@nihilisticcannibal4477 Negatively implying that what I have stated about Islam isn't true by bringing up terrorists as in association with Islam when in fact radicalised sects reside in every single Religion and in political groups. Your statements such as "tell that to your terrorist fellows" implies I condone the actions of those who take the lives of others in the name of any religion for that matter when I in fact do not. Bringing up the marines as if that justifies your aggressive behaviour to a comment informing others on a topic that they in all likelihood do not have much knowledge on, which it does not. Yet here you are, propagating a highly negative point of view that is nothing but retorts to a conversation that doesn't exist. So I leave you with this. If your point isn't to converse in this conversation of which you know little of, why are you here?
I'm an Indian and was born into Hinduism, who grew up learning all cultural values of hinduism Let me tell u something some of the points you said between 5:00 and 5:30 contradicts to what is being taught here Indian are not open to changes gender inequality is at extreme in India (not being proud abt it obviously 🙄 ) Children are definitely not allowed to question authority about anything not just teachers But we are more tolerant to Diversity and more politically engaged.
@MissUnderstood you can't judge a society by its negative side.....yes its a male dominated society and its due to perspective of many thinking males can only keep a family's bloodline . Actually if u see ancient indian culture it was not exist ..but sadly due to invaders ,their resolutions and exploitation of women by them had weaken the position of women ...they r unfortunately seem to be considered as second class citizen . Parents mostly fulfill a boy's need than a girl's. But this situation is changing and i hope this change will took place soon. Much of the rape cases in india are also the result of a fight ...women r considered weaker so they r attacked . Illitracy also adding to the problem ....but believe this will change and please don't judge my country by this only ...and only a month back rapist of nirbhaya murder case got capital punishment.
Basically, you are "nobody" due to the fact that culture turned "that little light of mine" into something else. Listen to Jackson Browne's "The Pretender". Most all of us "spend" our entire lives chasing everyone else's dreams.
If collectivist cultures are so compassionate and people are close to each other, then why is tiger parenting culture such an extreme problem in these countries?????????? Least compassionate parenting style
I'm from Ireland, now live in the UK and I'd say we are more individualist here but teamwork is still a big thing at work. People are very open here to most things and the news is rampant with politics and brexit these days
i have learned that my culture, my religion, my ethnicity have nothing to do with who i am. they are constructs of circumstance. the further i am from those things the closer i am to my true self. these things are chains. they can be tools. once they become your identity you become their slave.
@ttt ttt culture and religion are put on us and effect our outlook on life and behavior. those things are not who we are. take malaysia. all malay are muslim by law wether they want to be or not.
*Personality is definitely affected by the habitat.* Personality is never static and changes as a means to adaptation to new circumstances or surroundings.
individualism, nationalism, capitalism, these ideas are just nonsense for me, i don't buy it, i believe that culture is what distinguish a group of people from other groups, not nationalism. this is not a valid knowledge, instead, it is the world from a western eyes.
The influence of culture is a very complex system, there are external and internal elements, including not only genetic but also emotional experiences. It is important to learn about your possibilities but also about your blockages, where they come from and what impact they have on future decisions. I notice one thing in my account, although we are just starting out, that knowledge scares people, they prefer to watch "bouncing boobs" than face knowledge, such a case is the episode about childbirth, many women struggle with the topic of pregnancy, sometimes with the decision to have a child and sometimes with the effects after birth. There are many myths surrounding this topic, which we debunk in our discussion. Despite this, it does not arouse any interest, although the topic is important because everyone was born once. Welcome, it's worth turning on the English translation and I'm curious about your opinions.
5:10 mmm... no matter how liberal a culture may be, there is always resistance to change and hostility to outsiders who don’t conform to the current way of life.
I grew- up in a culture that cultivated modesty, then I came to live in a Western culture where it is mistaken for lack of self- confidence (which is EXTREMELY annoying. Fuck with me and you will see what I mean). The irony of it is that I am not modest and I don’t lack self- confidence. Have I failed by both standards? 😄
I am sure that you will be questioning yourself a lot, thru your habits compared to em etc etc but I think that you will become way more open about cultural differences and tend to accept the differences more wisely as they are..
@@wcp4jc there is culture genetic in any human being. Accepting a culture which is not associated with your personality may lead to have dysfunctional behaviour in a given society. It is very important that someone is very truthful to himself
I was brought up to be a collectivist. This idea seems to get the individual to “trade in” their individual personal values for the values of the collectivist culture. I have heard it called a “collective ego”. From this video, I suppose that I would call myself an “individualist” who like to help other “individuals” in a group. Hmm. “Individual group member” sounds like an oxymoron! Hey ho, I am still learning; that’s part of the fun, I think.
I actually think that comments complaining about this video promoting stereotypes or looking down on one side, etc, might be related to the exact cultural orientation the video talks about. I am from an individualistic culture and on the low side for uncertainty avoidance. Now I live in a collectivist country with a high uncertainty avoidance. Originally, I thought of most of that as bad, but a lot of people around me, who grew up in the country think of these same things as something to be proud of.
We are influenced by the values and stereotypes within our societies. It's pretty interesting to study, *but to really master yourself, you need to grow bigger than your culture. You need to become likeable by everyone.*
Indeed, being liberal needs everyone to be on board and people are quick to swoop in and take advantage because they are seen as protected. The liberal media encourages the destruction of the family unit but as a child a child will never see a woman as a man because they ignore biological factors, women produce more hormones which affects their decision making and while it’s not a bad thing males do not and in general men are more physically capable and are not bound by physical discomforts from periods that female often bring up. Being tolerant doesn’t require you to experience said differences just awareness. Single mothers are well intentioned but I’ve seen so many men raised by single mothers who are lost and confused who end up in difficult situations and in extreme cases end up in trouble with the law because of no strong male role models. The government is NOT a substitute nor is the internet because children learn through observation. The same applies to women raised by single fathers often being molested and unable to understand their emotions going through multiple unhealthy relationships. There are situations where it can’t always work but that’s when other relations can step in. No doubt there are situations which can’t be helped but they are still the minority in which acceptance is more important that outright changing everything.
But indeed being liberal is actually better than conservative if people have real critical thinking alongside with. Now ignorant liberals are worse than conservatives.
You can't have a sane collectivist society without a well developed individualism and a self awareness that that engages consciously with the herd mentality so often manipulated by leaders and politicians.
I have been persecuted by insults by my beliefs. I feel like that I deserve to have people show anger towards me. I think that I am brainwashed that I am horrible
