Baltimore, Detroit, and St. Louis all have something in common. Abandoned homes. St. Louis City needs to fix the abandoned homes issue especially in North City
The abandoned homes have bothered me even when I was a little girl. We would visit from Ft. Leonard Wood. I'd always think if they'd give me a sledgehammer I'd knock down & clear out the debris from every one of those buildings by myself for free because surely an empty lot is better than a decrepit house.
The difference I saw driving into St Louis over driving into Detroit daily. ( at least the route I take into Detroit and took into St Louis) I drive through the slums. Burned out houses, crappy neighborhoods. I noticed a very strong Police presence through Illinois and into St Louis. Detroit police use the crime as an excuse to ignore everything else. The freeways are like the autobahn. The majority of people do not stop at red lights. In fact I watched a cop yield to a guy running a red on my way to work and made no effort to pull him/her over. It's a joke. Detroit is rebuilding though. The downtown area is nice. I hope St Louis can somehow rebound a little because it seemed to have so much to offer.
I live in South St. Louis City and it has never felt dangerous. Not even for a moment. People walking dogs every evening, neighbors hanging out with each other, and general good vibes. That being said, I know there are areas that are pretty rough. The statistics really do St. Louis poorly when you consider the entire metro.
It definitely get a bad rap; plus it's such a huge area and I think people conflate "Downtown" with "The City" when there are so many neighborhoods and different areas within STL City
That’s true. The media wants people to think the entire St Louis metro area is so dangerous that you will be a victim for just going to a gas station. Now there are some areas of St Louis that you want to avoid especially at night but that’s any city you visit or stay at. I tell people all the time to use common sense skills (ex: don’t leave your valuables in your vehicle, do not park or walk in isolated areas, etc), stop listening to the media, and see for yourself. It’s really that bad like the media wants you think. I bet the media is not reporting this in Seattle, WA ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rr6qA3aqVZA.html
I have lived and travelled all over the U.S. and Europe. I moved to St. Louis City 3 years ago and bought a beautiful historic 6 bedroom house in an area just north of Forest Park in the Acaedmy neighborhood, for 140k. I love it and my neighbors are wonderful. Yes statistics make the difference. If you carve out the central downtown of any city they would have similar stats. If you look at the metro area we are average in crime. It's hard to explain to people tho...
Yes that is true, but in St. Louis the city proper is only 64 square miles. That is very small. The city proper has 300k people, the area has 3 million so we are talking a much bigger area.
Was in St Louis last week. I loved the downtown area. What a cool city. We were at a convention and stayed around the hotel, but driving around and seeing everything. Watching the people walking to the ballgame, the hockey game. It all seemed decent to me.
I live here, came here with my husband from San Diego. He is from here, I am not. He always tells me not to ever walk through certain areas by myself. I don't understand it but from what I've gathered most of the violence comes from across the river in East St. Louis in Illinois. I can say I feel safer than I did when I lived in San Diego, particularly in the neighborhood I was living in vs. the suburbs here. In San Diego (Paradise Hills specifically) I had on multiple occasions people coming to my door because they got held up at gunpoint and needed to use my phone, tagged my fence line, and people doing drive-by shootings right outside my house. I have yet to experience any of that here. I am about 30 mins out from downtown here. Love it, very peaceful. I think the most annoying thing I've experienced here is people going through our neighborhood and stealing from cars left unlocked. I'm south of the city and my mom who also moved out here from California lives west of the city, her neighborhood is very safe and she has fewer problems than we do down south of the city.
East st louis is nothing like it use to be. Barely anything happens over there, most of the violence is in North city, northwest city, south city between arsenal st down to patch neighborhood and kingshighway to I-55 mainly the state street area and lots of crime in North county and when natives refer to st louis we mainly mean the city limits and st louis city which has 300k people average 180 homicides and 2020 had 262. San Diego avereges 40-70 with over 1 million people
Lol I have homes in the north city 63115 I take care of women and children and love it and would not trade what i do for nothing been doing it 4 years now I do not have problems it's pepole who go looking for problems .....
Hey, firstly I just want to say thank you so very much for this video. I honestly had been spooked about coming in for a concert . Your clarification about the downtown vs larger St. Louis and putting it into perspective, has helped me decide I can still visit. Thank you, thank you 🙏 for this content.
Bro it don't matter where you go in STL. St. Charles, Wentzville, St. Peters, O'Fallon, North County, South County, Etc. The whole city fucked up! I had to comment on something you said at the end about car doors locked. I literally leave nothing in my car and leave my doors unlocked so if someone rambles through my shit, all they have is bible, insurance card and a car manual. That way they dont have to break my WINDOW just for that! 😂😂😂
The same thing happens with LA and the surrounding suburbs. Crime happens everywhere in the states. The housing affordability will inevitably bring people to St. Louis. It's such a charming city with so much potential. And it's pretty centrally located. I was trying to buy a property near tower grove park but I got outbid a few times lol. Your videos are great!
@@dr.1956 Indeed it has gone up but I meant relative to other expensive markets. The nation average is about $400k now for a home and I still see beautiful homes in nice neighborhoods between 200k-400k. I wouldn't lie to you. You're a Dr.
We are not just talking about The Northside or even The City anymore. This stuff is happening in Creve Coeur, Chesterfield, Kirkwood, nice parts of South County/City and even LADUE! Not to mention all the highway shootings...
I live in STL all my life raise in the north side off of Kingshighway and Natural Bridge and then I move to Wellston if you from St Louis you know definitely this is the hood I graduated from high school thank God and got a scholarship to Lindenwood i moved out into the suburbs but half of my life staying in the hood I never had any problems with anybody it's all about drugs and money and they are fixing some part of the city up it's not all that bad you just got to know your surroundings just like any other city or state
Thanks for the info, Jacob. Even some people who live in the greater metro area have a really skewed perception of the city proper because of sensationalist headlines and statistics like this. I live in U City pretty darn close to the city/county border and the way you hear some people talk about my neighborhood (pretty much the Delmar Loop) you’d think I’d have to be a gang boss to survive here. I mean, sure there are parts of U City I would not live in but is it still insanely overblown. The city itself gets a horrible reputation that even it doesn’t *totally* deserve and bleeds into some of the inner ring suburbs. It’s crazy. The crime rhetoric is so overblown when we talk about STL in general.
The St. Louis metro area is about the 20th largest in the country. It is the 6th safest with violent crime (the last time I looked). As stated in the video, the geographic area of the city is tiny and most of the violent crime takes place in a few sections of the city. Were the city encompass the entirety of the county (see Boston, Louisville and I think KC), it would likely be one of the safest in the country.
It's been super dangerous for years. MLK commented on it and how it needs to be systematically addressed. You didn't mention how outlying cities went bad. This is especially in North County.
In LA it’s kind of the opposite. There is no LA City technically, it’s a county. And so they count every city, everything from the valley in the far west to Orange County. Which is made up of like 100 cities. So you lump in places like Compton and Bel Air into the same report, which is crazy. From one end to the other is like 2 hours by car.
That's wild, you're right that definitely sounds like the complete opposite problem from STL where LA might have too many areas all lumped together and STL has only a small sliver of the whole metro for reporting
I went to Job Corps in St Louis in 2012. It was bad back then. It's definitely a dangerous city. Two guys I was cool with died while I was down there. I was only there for a year but I saw and heard alot. At night from a distance I could sometimes hear gunshots from my room at the dorm I was staying in at the time. Automatic gunfire. The city is pretty bad but the surrounding areas are pretty safe so, I agree with you there. Alot of poverty and gang violence in the city.
I live in lake saint louis and the shburbs are alot safer i have always felt safe over here and i always here kids playing st night and really nothing bad happens and its manly just the city and just north county
Couldn't the same argument be made for other cities? "The city of Detroit is dangerous but the MSA isn't..." or "the city of Baltimore is dangerous but the MSA isn't..." I like the Lou but it might be misleading to start talking about the MSA. One headwind against St. Louis in particular is that North St. Louis and East St. Louis, Illinois appear extremely dangerous and these two areas drive up the crime rate.
I think the issue is that other cities don't have the city-county political divide that St. Louis has. This skews St. Louis's crime statistics. In other cities around the country, these two things are the same, i.e. the city and county are one larger political and geographical entity. If St. Louis was structured politically like other cities, then the high density crime areas would be off-set by the safer areas, like Clayton, Kirkwood, and Maplewood. Using a more apples-to-apples comparison would make St. Louis average for crime in the US. I agree with you that comparing the MSA doesn't make sense. Further flung suburbs aren't considered in other cities' data. St. Charles County shouldn't be included, but the inner ring suburbs just outside the city limits in St. Louis would be inside the city limits of a comparable city. Adjusting St. Louis's data to account for its unique situation only makes sense. I believe these embarrassing crime statistics is part of the reasoning behind the desire to merge the city and counties once again politically. Not the only reason, but one of them.
I've lived here my whole life. Grew up in the Metro East (Belleville, IL) and now live in West County (Maryland Heights). There's a lot of good and a lot of bad in stl, and SLU is not in the bad. South City, Central West End, South County, and West County are all reasonably safe (for a city). Most of the stats come from north county and some crime that comes from E. STL across the river into downtown.
@@3TheGamingPig2 south city has lots of crime and homicides especially state street area. Across the river is dead these days and nothing goes on a shooting here and there
Hi, thanks for the video, I'm moving to St.Louis with my family, and we need clarification about security. My wife is super worried because she had an awful experience with that before, so which suburbs can we feel living in a small town, but at the same time, good for diversity?
I lived in St louis south side from 1988 to 1994. Everyone I knew was a victim of crime ranging from street harassment to home invasion to carjacking to murder. I hate st louis
Just teach the kid that central grand is dangerous, have them with a pepper spray or tracker and tell them dont walk alone at night or ever. I am not sure about normandy
The North Side of St Louis by statistics has 3 of the 10 most dangerous zipcodes in America when it comes to homicide rates, there is very few areas in America as violent as North St Louis.
Visit the city for yourself and stop listening to the media. It is not that bad that the media portrayed it to be. Just use common sense skills (ex: don’t leave your valuables in the car, never park or walk in isolated areas, and avoid certain neighborhoods especially at night) and you will be ok.
When i'll be in the Us i'd love to come to St Louis, as a tourist and sportfan ( i am from France) but i have a handicap and im scared of being a " target " , i'd like to take photo, but not risking my life for it, how should organise to have a safe expérience for a 2 or 3 day trip, with sports games and tourist attractions ? Thanks very much.
Down by busch stadium and the city musem area, dont go wondering around. Keep your family close until youre inside. Just be vigilant, dont walk on central grand alone EVER. And you'll be fine
What suburbs don't have an airport noise problem? Whether St louis proper or other cities nearby. I heard because of the threee airports that this is a big problem. and I want to avoid it.
I mean, most suburbs don't have a noise problem unless you live right next to the airport... I live in Chesterfield which has an airport but I live 4 miles away from it and hear nothing. Lambert is the big one you might want to live several miles from
Yes I googled it over a year ago and it's rated the most dangerous city in the USA.. turned me right off completely. Seems like you can't even walk down the street there . 😕
Hi I am from India and I am moving to do master at SLU. I am planning to live at The Gentrys Landing Apartments at downtown can you please tell me is it safe or not
You couldn't pay me to live in St Louis mo I just like to visit it I seen what happens in St Louis You never go into north country day or night night and never go from I 70 to forest park there are a lot of car jackings and stay away from the landing at night I lived up river from St Louis
Well yeah why would they judge the 11 counties nearby when it’s a most dangerous cities list😂 I get you’re trying to debunk the bad stereotype but you could say that about probably every city
When i lived in Memphis tn , Memphis was the most dangerous city in America, I i moved to st louis and that very year st louis became the most dangerous city in america , coincidence i think not,thug life yo
There is something much bigger going on in St .Louis let's talk about why there are so many YT people making videos about St Louis ..I see threw what the news is reporting.
@@LivingStLouis go back 10years ar so St Louis Post ,Florissant city blocks bought up by China Crop. China is buying up land along the Mississippi China wants farm land and river ports ,
Considering a friend of mine and me had someone in a black Lexus in the suburb in a good neighborhood try to get us to stop multiple times around midnight a few months ago for an attempt to carjacking I'd say it IS getting worse...even in good neighborhoods. If you see a human.......BEWARE!!!
Yeah..live In south county and recently me and a friend driving down a road in the Oakville school area and a black lexis kept slamming on ita brakes infront of us to stop!! I told her under NO circumstance do you stop the car open door or window or let this guy ram his car into our car!! He slammed brakes off 5 times on front of us and just stayed stop. Told her if ANYONE gets out of the car YOI FLOOE IT AND I MEAN FAST AF...and if you run him over GOOD!!! Finally it sped off. NEVER since I've been driving 30 years have I EVER experienced that! We didn't tape it because we didn't want to take one eyeball off of the car..and rummage theu our purses. But yeah...the trash is ALLLLL over. Sad...but WTF happened to the human species?! I see.humans.but NO humanity.ni would NEVER NEVER NEVER.go.down town. Or up north. Wild west
