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Doesn't life, especially microbial life, break down matter more efficiently than non-life, natural processes? And, if that's true, wouldn't that mean that life, at least on Earth, is actually increasing entropy, even though this planet isn't a closed system?
@@andrew12bravo21there's nothing that states entropy can't be localised or must be spread evenly throughout the system. Now, life does increase the overall entropy, but that's offset by additional energy being infused from a different part of the same system. Ironically that energy is also the the waste from entropy from another part of the system.
@@nunyabisnass1141 life as i know it is the fight against entropy, that said, life increases entropy in it surrounding environment. Not unlike a refrigerator.
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
Entropy doesn't *have to* increase. It's just far, far, far more statistically likely to increase rather than decrease, because there are so many more "disordered" states than "ordered" states.
An easier way for most people to think about it is this - Entropy in the universe will increase. As long as this is the case, locally you can have pockets of low entropy. Just as long as the "disorder" or complexity overall is increasing. Of course this does not work so well when describing a system that must, at some point, reorder itself or already *had* reordered itself. And for that your explanation is a much better fit. But people have trouble wrapping their heads around that idea and fortunately none of us will be around for that anyway.
The question is: will entropy of system without life increase less then entropy of system with life or is same. My and Schrødingers idea is that life reduses entropy in close system, any comments.
Usually, my head's spinning after viewing topics like this on other channels, but Mr. Ash is such a great presenter, that I come away with a much better understanding of the topic.
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
My dear Arvin. You have prodused an amazing new take on the universe.. I do so enjoy all your videos and i am enlightened by your commentary in every episode.. The discovery of scientific information is astounding.
Indeed this an amazing video explaining the entropy and life. But he actually did not produce this idea/take. It is a very profound thesis among researchers and physicists.
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
First learned about entropy when studying engineering and 'heat engines'. All heat engines must reject some heat as part of their cycles. So in a sense, heat engines work on an 'entropy gradient', as energy flows from low entropy form to a higher entropy form. Then one day I had a 'light bulb moment' when I realized that all of life does the same thing. I would say that all forms of life 'live' on similar energy flowing gradients, taking in energy in a low entropy form, using some to maintain/ grow, and rejecting some energy to a higher entropy 'sink'.
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
This could have been explained more readily by talking about free energy. Thermodynamics does not prohibit a decrease in entropy. Whether something spontaneously happens doesn't just depend on entropy but also energy. Commonly expressed through dG = dH - TdS (!!!) An everyday example is trying to mix oil and water compared to mixing alcohol with water. In the first case, the two liquids remain separated and have lower entropy. In the second case, they spontaneously mix to maximize entropy. Why the difference? Because of the energy associated with trying to force oil molecules to mix with water. It's like trying to push two south poles of a magnet together - it requires a lot of energy. But add a molecule with a part oil-loving bit and a part water-loving bit and, hey presto, the oil disperses. That kind of molecule is a surfactant. If you make a solution of surfactant, it spontaneously forms self-associated structures which decrease the local entropy. This is well-known in colloid and interface science. Life isn't unusual in the way suggested. The molecules that create cell walls etc are typically lipids which are like surfactants in that they have oil-loving and water-loving parts. It's all about balance.
Great so the molecules that create cell walls are typically lipids, and are surfactants. That’s great. Now, just explain how all of the little machine like parts found their way into the same spot before luckily having the surfactants to be surrounding the little machine parts and becoming a wall around the parts. The simplest single celled organism we know of has about 300 of these little machine like parts! How did all those parts, which are not surfactants, randomly and luckily find their way together in the same tiny spot at just the right time for the surfactants to form a protective cell wall? Why are there no life forms being discovered with far less than 300 machine parts? Shouldn’t there be at least a few life forms that landed, say, only 20 little machine parts? What about only 60? Why aren’t just 2 or 3 machine parts being found in any known single celled organism? There is something incredibly remarkable about this if you think about it! Bcus all of the 300 little machine parts are required for the survival of just the SIMPLEST single celled organism known to mankind. But we find no such thing as single celled organisms on the evolutionary ladder with less than a staggering 300 little machine parts! Lotta parts for the simplest life form don’t you think? And how does one explain the left handed chirality of all life on Earth? How do you explain this strict left handedness of amino acids found in ALL life forms? But now see there are equal amounts of right handed amino acids found in nature which could randomly attach to the long protein chains if life had indeed came about in a non-controlled, random environment. How can you explain the left handed chirality of amino acids in all life on Earth simply by random happenings in a non controlled matrix, when that matrix if it were a natural matrix, would have to be full of left and right handed amino acids?
@@effectingcause5484 Er...I gave surfactants as just one example to explain that local entropy can decrease without it being a violation of universal laws. This video leads with the suggestion that life is somehow unique because it leads to a decrease in entropy. It isn't. I merely gave an example.
@@toby9999 My point mrToby, is that there appears to be an intelligence behind the simplest known organisms known to mankind and that there are holes in the theory of random chance giving rise to abiogenesis of life on Earth. I point this out bcus the other guy mentions random chemistry possibly allowing for something as complex as a cell membrane to form, without acknowledging the fact that there are 300+ little orderly machines packed inside even the simplest cell membrane structure we know of. I point out that this ordered arrangement of molecular chemistry that is life must ultimately still come from a more orderly state of entropy, somewhere. Life is not very highly ordered. Life is not even more orderly than the sun! The sun being so much more intensely hotter than it’s surroundings, is in a much lower state of entropy than anything nearby to it, including life on earth. Complexity in life is not a state of low entropy. It is a state of entropy quickly becoming equalized. Life is an example of entropy approaching equilibrium fast. Life is not an example of very low entropy when compared to very hot things up against very cold things. Like the sun against the vacuum of space. Life is actually more of a vent for the entropy of the sun, which allows for total entropy of the solar system to approach equilibrium a little faster.
@@johnmiller0000 Hi John miller, I understand your logic to be correct. I wonder though, if the separation of oil and water, truly represents a decrease in entropy… Thinking of what’s happening chemically when the oil separates from the water this is actually increasing total entropy since the chemical energy stored within the mixture becomes less and less as the oil separates from the water.
One of my personal interpretations of life is that it exists precisely to _increase_ entropy. Think abiut it: The purpose of life is to keep expanding itself ever and ever more to consume more resources and do more work, thus accelerating entropy.
You're mistaking an undesired side effect for a goal. This will become clear when technologically advanced aliens snuff us out to reduce the rate of increase of entropy.
@@brothermine2292that would be stupid, that’s killing life for living and only allowing some to live, which while on paper makes sense so they can use all those resources, but there’s a tremendous amount of resources that can really only be extracted from life processing them, the biosphere actually has many useful compounds in it. In addition most of the energy we use comes from sunlight which isn’t a resource that’s possible to drain.
Yes that’s the same notion as England’s paper from 2013. Specifically life would increase the rate of entropy increase - ie time is an essential element. Consider the fact that if you wish to drain your bathtub in the least time, you’d be better off creating a whirlpool at the drain - which of course almost always occurs naturally. But whether or not life increases or decreases the rate of entropy growth by large is an open question.
The problem with this theory is that it needs intentionality, aka that there is a universal objective (dissipating heat) towards which life should tend. It's the opposite, life is specialized in icreasing entropy because the more the certainty of a system (thus the more the complexity) the lower is its entropy and the lower the entropy of a system the bigger the entropy of the universe. It's not an objective, it's a rule to which life has to abide to exist because the universe works that way. It's like believing the refrigerator keeps the ambient cool TO increase the temperature outside when it's the opposite
Just something that came to mind while watching this that could be useful this time of year with people going on vacation & wanting to have cold beer, or want a lot of cold beer fast, say for a party. So you're at your beach rental & you just loaded the fridge with a case or two of warm beer & you have 10 of your friends coming over in an hour, normally there is no way in hell the fridge will get the beers cold enough to be enjoyable in time, but here is how you can do it, hell you can freeze everything in your refrigerator compartment if you fall asleep, forget about it and head out to the bars, & end up over do it. First pull the fridge away from the wall & clean the coils on the back & setup a few of the fans from the house having them all on max blowing over the coils on the back. You can make the refrigerator work even harder but you'll need to be careful not to electrocute yourself or anybody else including children or pets, or even start a fire. If you put a damp sheet over the coils so the sheet is touching all of the coils on the back, but do not have the sheet dripping wet to cause an electrical short and/or fire. Now with the fans blowing on the damp sheets coating the coils even more heat will be removed using evaporation. TAKE the sheet off when it is time to re-damp it, do not pour water on it while it is attached. Set an alarm on your phone to remind yourself it is time to redamp the sheet or completely remove it if the inside has reached the temperature you wanted for your beer. But if you're careful, you could use a spray bottle to mist the sheet, but again, be super careful. I own two computer 140mm fans that can be plugged into a USB port for extra cooling for computers. Today if I was doing this I'd put these fans with a USB rechargeable power brick inside of the refrigerator to move the air around to help pull the heat out of the items inside. Decades ago my friends & I rented a dump at the beach & the refrigerator would take over night to make a tray of ice cubes. Doing everything I stated above we had the fridge freezing a room temp case of beer in 40 mins forcing us to lower the speed on the fans, & removing the sheet since it was over kill. The biggest problem was the refrigerator was 60 years old, so old it only had one door that locked when shut & had the same type of huge handle you'd see on the inside of a airplane emergency exit. And the refrigerator was built into the kitchen cabinets stopping any airflow to the coils on its back. btw, those old art deco refrigerators, if refurbished with new Insulation, compressor, & a fresh coat of bright red paint, & with all of the chrome parts re-chromed, are highly collectible and sought after today. ...just like the old art deco glass bottle Coke vending machines for game rooms, & since people are going crazy for the 100% sugar-cane Mexican Coca-Cola, (instead of the corn syrup version we have in the USA), the old Coke vending machines have almost doubled in price. The Mexican Coke comes in the old glass bottles that work with the old vending machines. Thanks for reading my rantings, & if you know of a place making new versions of the old Coke wall mounted art deco machines, please let me know in a reply. ...guess now with CnC machines, someone could make one themselves, just "print" one out if they have the design.
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
Crystals have low entropy, so crystallization itself is a spontaneous process that sagregates a solution into high and low entropy components. Entropy stratification/segregation is spontaneous and life is just an extreme example of it.
I know you're kind of joking, but that's an interesting question. It's so complex I'll miss stuff, but you took energy coming in Wi-Fi and your phone's battery, and converted it into a thought, which has order to it because I understood it. So did you actually decrease entropy in a sense? And so life itself is a decrease in entropy but can also cause a decrease in entropy, can cause an increase in entropy as well with destruction...
@WillyKillya it may have decreased locally in my head, but as you said, the Wi-Fi gave off heat. My electrical system gave off heat, and something was burned to produce the electricity. Hell, the calories I burnt creating the thought and moving my body to type the conversation increased overall entropy.
entropy is really a very vague concept, in thermodynamics entropy is the dissipation of energy leading the system to balance, that is, to order, what kind of disorder are we talking about, I can’t understand
Life actually creates more disorder in the universe. This may be its actual reason for being...according to theories of Jeremy England. Paradoxically, it takes an organized intelligent entity to realize and accelerate that disorder..because there are activation barriers which inanimate matter cannot easily cross to realize that potential entropy. Even plants do this. They take more organized visible light photons, and create a mess of infrared photons. Plants thankfully export the excess disorder into deep space. Herbivores and carnivores and humans create disorder locally however. Just think of the lifeless moon. It preserves the information about asteroid collisions billions of years ago. Our living planet however destroys most of the evidence within a few million years.
Excellent video. And I’m glad you prefaced the origin of life segment by stating we don’t have all the answers. Interestingly each new theory on the origin of life fails to integrate all the conflicts from other scientific disciplines. One person’s theory won’t account for physical conditions that weren’t present at a crucial point such as the rapid onset of life so close to the heavy bombardment period, or others rely on a reducing atmosphere to protect nascent nucleic acids when the atmosphere was oxidizing, or when extreme levels of UV light would have destroyed the delicate nucleic acids, or the lack of evidence supporting a “probiotic soup”, etc. It’s apparent that the biologists aren’t talking to the astrophysicists, geologists, or mathematicians. Even if they were able to integrate the tremendous conflicts between the necessary conditions for their theories on the origin of life, they would still need to fill in huge gaps in knowledge with the Cambrian explosion, lack of intermediate fossil forms, explanation for random mutations accounting for beneficial changes when thousands of them would be required sequentially for say the nostrils 16:09 of a cow to migrate to the top of the head and evolve into a dolphin (especially in organisms with very long gestation periods). Notice I’m not saying bacteria can’t adapt to antibiotics or share genetic material (micro-evolution). It all boils down to “do you worship the God of the gaps” or “worship the god of give me enough time and I’ll figure all the gaps out”? It takes faith to worship either one. Choose wisely. A mind that is a product of simple undirected evolution in a universe that simply sprang into existence from a singularity might not be trusted to give a rational answer.
This is easily one of the best videos I've watched explaining Entropy. I think there is a cognitive dissonance created by the words "order" and "disorder" that is better explained by the term "complexity" as you did in the video. In any ordered or disordered location, no laws of nature are being violated at any time. So, from that standpoint, the "order" is equal, though the "local complexity" can be quite different. The term "disorder" only adds to the complexity of understanding "Entropy." 😉
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
@@mikekolokowskyisn't it telling contradictory stories, both/all of which you believe are true, the dissonance being that you don't realise the stories contradict & thus can't both be true? Knowing one story is not true or contradicts the other, but acting as if both are true is called lieing, or denial, both active cognitive processes. So, not ignoring contradictory evidence, rather being unaware of the contradiction?
@ArvinAsh your channel is amazing brother! In this vid you mentioned how life progresses toward increased complexity (lower entropy). Can you look into the possibly of doing a vid on how the phenomenon of cooperation has contributed to that progression, from the evolution of multicellular orgs to human society? Big ask but maybe a worthwhile endeavor!
Great explanation as always Arvin, however can't help to feel that the words "order" and "disorder" murky the whole thing (like in the explanation with the solar system). Complexity, diversity or possibility may be wider terms but they might approach the concept better. But that's just nitpicking, amazing video!
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
I believe Schrödinger also asked this question in his seminal "What is Life?" paper. Where he pondered on the properties of life at quantum level and entropy to a large extent. This is very insightful!
Absolutely loved the video Arvin! I totally understand entropy and how life does not violate the 2nd law but perpetuates it. Beautiful I love speculation and am an amateur futurist. Hypothetically; if we had a truly closed system; life could not evolve in this environment, correct? Thanks!
Not really, this is because as long as there is an energy gradient you can draw an imaginary boundary within that closed system which excludes the higher energy part. Energy tends to dissipate precisely because of the second law so this tiny imaginary system looks like an open system and behaves like one too. You can observe the opposite too, if you consider the whole universe the energy is conserved (forget dark energy for a moment), as such it is an isolated system but life evolved anyways. This means all you need to have to have effective open systems and by extension life is an energy gradient
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
Im not sure where the question really even comes in - if the sun is increasing entropy by giving off energy, its already well established that adding energy to a system is needed to decrease entropy, which was happening for half a billion years... After introducing energy into the local systems on earth for half a billion years, with that much propensity for a decrease in entropy, it's not that big of a stretch to end up with photosynthesis storing energy with the most abundant elements available. If the first sign of life was an intelligent creature, that would raise some questions, but saying fusion on one side released energy, which was then partially reabsorbed, isnt hard to accept when we already know why eggs denature and use electrolysis all the time in biotech.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics applies to closed systems. The biosphere on Earth is not a closed system. Entropy can increase, decrease or remain static locally if the system is open.
@@pofigist4375 You can be isolated and still open. Closed is the proper term to use here. Very important to distinguish between an isolated system which can be in some cases an approximation to a closed system. No ambiguity Mr Fig
@@TonyTigerTonyTiger An isolated system can be open. All systems are open. PRovide an example of a perfect boundary around an isolated system. We dont even know the geometry and actual size of the Universe - whether it's finite. Black Holes? Well theoretically they too possess an entropy and are not perfect boundaries. I accept your apology my friend
So a part of increasing entropy is to create low entropy life that can increase entropy throughout the universe more efficiently 🤔 #soundslikepurpose 🤗 Great video as always Arvin 👍🏿
interesting! People that claim that evolution solves the mystery of life think that understanding the process somehow solves the mystery: it still remains unknown 'why' entropy happens at all, why life is at all, and why awareness somehow sprung out of a "blind" universe, with the express desire to improve its probabilities for self-preservation. The answer one usually gets is equally stuck in the realm of 'quantifying'. "It happened due to fortuitous chemichal reactions". That type of answer, when contemplated for long enough, only begs the question of why there is anything happening at all in the first place: random chance is only a rationalist reduction of the mystery, by taking the processes of the 'thing' and dressing them up in pomp and conceptual funnels for the mind to eventually feel that the 'thing' is now understood and the mystery solved. But the question isn't related to the process or the HOW the phenomenon unfolds. It's about WHY. Qualia. Motive. And there is absolutely no answer to the question of 'why'. Only speculation. Giving existence a motive is a impossible IMO, since it precedes even life itself. It just 'is'. And that is the mystery
Yeah, also technically life is higher entropy than the energy sources it uses. Since thermodynamic entropy isn’t measuring structural complexity or simplicity but rather energy state distribution (which can be tied with structure but that’s not inherently the case) and in this case, life is higher in entropy than the molecules it takes energy from.
I believe life appears to be ordered, but in reality, it introduces more disorder. Life increases the possibilities for every particle, enhancing the degrees of freedom for potential futures compared to a universe without life. Essentially, life increases entropy, depending on how we define entropy.
@@brothermine2292 my mistake I didn't properly formulate the sentence, from a objective physical perspective life exists to increase the overall entropy of the universe, thats our role. From a biological perspective our purpose or goal is to fight against internal entropy increase, thus increasing entropy of our environment
@@Balquieno : You'll be proved wrong when an advanced alien civilization snuffs out life on Earth in order to eliminate our unwelcome contributions to entropy.
Wow, This video DIRECTLY addresses a question I had on my mind for years. Even the idea that life itself may just be an inevitable result of the fundamental laws of physics is something I've thought about before. Until now, I had no idea that not only did someone else think of it but they took it seriously enough to give it some level of rigor in scientific analysis. Amazing video.
haven't watched the whole video yet but the fact that complex forms of life were able to develop from cosmic dust, even if at the cost of a vicinity increase of entropy is, by itself, mindblowing;
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
If you see a cluster of stones and beside a building, you would NEVER come to the idea the building was built without an intelligent builder. Why you believe that in nature? Without an intelligent designer such sophisticated machines and structures can never occur. Law of entropy drives processes but without intelligence it is impossible to get sophisticated machines in nature in my opinion. So as a person who encountered Jesus and heard so many people tell their storys about/with him, I know he exists. Therefore I have to encourage you to search for him and don't reject God from the outset. He loves you. He gives true life, we are meant to have and true joy. Life is more than the material things. God bless you!
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
Arvin, at the final part of the video, isn’t it called “Boltzmann Brain”? Also, a video about “Information and Entropy” would be a worthy continuation of this thermodynamics series. Issac Arthur has a video about civilizations at the time when the entropy is reaching the maximum, and it would be an excellent reference for your deep dive into “Information and Entropy”.
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
As a kid, I thought of entropy as the same as equilibrium. If I have two closed systems, one filled with a hot vibrating gas and the other with a cooler more sluggish gas - they would both be in equilibrium and therefore have the same high entropy. If all the gas in each system were all in one corner - neither would be in equilibrium, therefore both would have the same low entropy. Information tech: a well-designed software hash has information evenly distributed and is virtually irretrievable (high entropy). Plaintext has recognizable patterns intended to convey information (low entropy). If I have one system filled with frozen 0K water, we have a highly organized crystal (low entropy), but providing very little information (number of molecules). Another system filled with hot steam has highly randomized molecule position/orientation/velocity (high entropy), but potentially conveys a lot of information - pressure, temperature, turbulence. Information theory and thermodynamics seem to produce different intuitive views of entropy? The 2nd Law suggests that the universe will end with matter/energy dispersed randomly/evenly (high entropy). How would that be different from an ordered crystal (low entropy) - just dispersed at a much greater scale? I'm assuming that something like Higgs resonance over time would align all "particles" at entropy death. This suggests that entropy is more than just disorder and irretrievable information - perhaps planck locality plays a role?
The mental note I made to myself to remember this all is "low energy + high enthropy component => low enthropy component (more organized) + high energy (dissipated)" and that's how life work to produce more and more order (but also dissipate more and more energy) from high enthropy disorganized matter + low energy around it
Life is like a turbine in a river that's used to generate electricity. Earth as a whole takes advantage of entropy by converting a few high energy photons from the Sun into chemical and kinetic work, and the effluent is a larger number of low energy photons. A river turbine works just the same, taking energy from high velocity water, turning some of that velocity into work, and returning the lower velocity water to the river from which it came.
Never thought of that. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be converted into less energetic form thus a few photons release many less energetic photons. But you never see less energetic photons combine to form a more energetic photon. Photons degradation is the very definition of Entropy. But I do not agree Life in any way generates anything except speeds up the prosess of Photo degradation.
Attempting to compare concepts that are only apparent or meaningful to you as a specific and wonderfully unique example of consciousness illustrates the delightful irony of your complete dismissal of its existence outside yourself.
Great video! It got me thinking...is global warming aligned with the "reason" life exist (i.e. speeding up entropy)?... or maybe renewables vs fossils makes no difference to entropy at a "system" level?
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
The kind of “order” one finds in crystals and whirlpools is not the same order as one finds in life. Crystals and whirlpools can be described with very little information. Life can only be described with high amounts of specified information.
Jeremy England's dissipative adaption theory discussed in the video is eye-opening. It implies that life is inevitable and could make the case that the galaxy is likely teeming with lifeforms.
Indeed. It seems logical, but as I said, it's not proven. My opinion is that the universe may indeed be teeming with life, but I also think that intelligent life like humans is probably still very rare. Given the variety and tenacity of life on earth, such an intelligence as ours has only appeared once over the course of 4.5 billion years. That's pretty rare.
THANK YOU! Ive heard the concept of entropy throughout my college years, but all my teachers' explanations were always too vague. This was very precise and informative!
The elephant in the room as far as entropy is concerned of course is the existence of the universe itself! Life has probably always existed in the universe and always will. Entropy is localised and gravity is the great regenerator.
@@salvadormartin4203 so, there is one phenomena but two forms. Energy and matter. Energy is the phenomena. Matter is energy localised to one point. Once multiple points are established interactions can occur. (Creation of atoms. Velocity etc) Matter could be described as miniature black holes. It has been stated in the past that a small black hole could be in the room with you and not reveal itself. Also, black holes may be the regenerators.
Is not necessarily breaking the rules of physics, the low level of entropy is only temporary for each living being. The moment they die, the entropy increases until you become, generaly speaking, in time more and more entropic.
entropy in the universe is low at the beginning, medium at the middle, and high at the end, akin to graphing y=x. complexity in the universe is low at the beginning, high at the middle, and low at the end, akin to graphing y=-x^2. we humans live somewhere near the middle, enjoying the high complexity. this is very simplified but it does give you a direct idea of what's going on.
0:00: 🔑 Life seems to contradict the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of an isolated system always increases or remains constant over time. 3:31: 🔑 Entropy is a measure of the number of ways microscopic components of a system can be arranged to produce the same macroscopic behavior. 6:09: 🌱 Life on Earth does not violate the second law of thermodynamics as organisms decrease entropy locally while increasing it in their environment. 9:44: 🌍 The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of a system must increase over time, but this does not mean that the entropy of each element of the system must increase. 12:09: 🌱 The formation of life is connected to the absorption and dissipation of energy, as suggested by the hypothesis of 'adaptation induced by dissipation'. 15:18: 🌍 The history of evolution is the story of a planet learning to harness solar energy through complex living beings in order to increase the entropy of the universe. Recap by Tammy AI
The main point about chemical reaction is that energy is minimized (and entropy is maximized at the same time). I.e. the differential is zero. For biological systems it makes sense to look at Gibbs free energy (aka free enthalpy): G = H - TS. In equilibrium dG = dH + TdS. This means that chemical reactions can be driven by enthalpic or entropic (or both) effects. Example for an entropic reaction: The dissolution of NaCl in water is driven by entropy. It takes energy to break the bonds in the crystal (delta H is positive), however the system gains so much entropy that the reaction occurs spontaneously (delta G is negative). When NaCL is dissolved in water the temperature of the water drops by several degrees C. Reactions in soft matter / biological matter often have small changes in enthalpy H. Thus, delta G is often dominated by entropic effects (changes in S) . As you explain at 9:20. More entropy can mean more order in a subsystem. Example: Consider a box with small and large balls. It makes sense to cluster the big balls in order to allow the small balls more configurations. Although things seem to be better order in fact disorder has increased (because the tiny balls now have much more configurations available than the large balls have lost). This is the mechanism how biological membranes are stabilized. The entropy of the system (membrane + water) is maximized by packing the membrane molecules as close as possible and thus forming a membrane Bottom line: Entropy triggers self assembly.
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
Maybe entropy is increasing in the organism too...although the organism is highly ordered, it means that chemical reactions are taking place in an ordered way, that means there are more chemical reactions occurring as the species evolve because increase in complexity and orderness and more chemical reaction means more increase in entropy
Low entropy = order High entropy = disorder Is only a human concept and fails for many situation. Imagine the early universe, before matter condensed when there was pure radiation everywhere (later background radiation). This is a highly ordered state but the entropy was very, very low.
@@thedeemon oh, I messed my statement up a little bit. The early state in the universe was highly DIS_ordered, because everything was almost homgenously distributed. Just the same state, as when you mix up two kinds of gases in a chamber, which is a common example for turining low entropy to high entropy.
Put it simply, just as the wider world "pays" for the fridge to work "with interest", entropy is so powerful that it can whitstand the emergence of life, consciousness and self-awareness as well. If you think about it, entropy is our Ariadne's thread that can be used by science to build knowledge about the natural world. Also pointing it out that since entropy seems to tie into many areas of research, not just life but time as well, we're edging towards a quite holistic scientific work here.
Makes me wonder where does this take us? What happens when the entropy of the whole universe reach its maximum possible value? Is this what they call the "cold death" of the universe?
deschia • No. The correct understanding of the "entropic" dynamic is completely misanderstood by Arvin's erroneous explanation. I told Arvin many times to think with his own brain and stop being a parrot of the erroneous theories of the highly Ph-ded indoctrinated idiots on this planet. But he doesn't do it, as you can see, because, maybe, that's his minuscule cognitive prowess... Etc, etc. So, the state of highly and highly material dynamic disordered aggregations gives the possibility to more and more ordered local aggregations to form. Highest maximum entropic level is in true fact the most favorable entropic realm for the highest number of local ordered entropic aggregates to exist. Highest maximum disorder in in fact phenomenologically equivalent with the highest maximum ordered entropic realms to form. Highest maximum entropy is not the "death of the Universe". It is in fact the origin of the genesis of the highest number of local conditions created for organized "life" of any kind, shape, and form to exist.
A guess before watching the video: there are no isolated systems, right? Except maybe the whole universe, and even about that we don't know if it exchanges energy and mass with something outside or not.
Yes, there aren't any. There are no points, mass points, perfectly straight lines and so on. These are all concepts that we use to tell the bigger picture.
Its like spinning a bottle of water to empty it faster. Like a layer of warm water mixing with a layer of cold water, creating vortices to reach equilibrium. Life only temporarily increases order to increase the long term dispersion of energy. Basically life is a more efficient way to reach equilibrium.
Hi Arvin, excellent video! However, I'd like to mention that the following sentence is not well enough explained: "The heating effect outside the refrigerator is greater than the cooling that takes place inside" This would seem to contradict the first law of thermodynamics, energy conservation. I know you didn't mean it like this and want to simplify the video, but sometimes the reality is too complex for it to be explained briefly without significant loss of accuracy. The correct statement is inevitably more complicated: the creation of this temperature difference is not spontaneous. You have to perform another energy transformation in order to achieve it. You pour into the system a lower entropy energy form (electricity) that is converted into a higher entropy energy form ( heat gain in the summation system (room + refrigerator) ). That way it is true that the heat produced outside the refrigerator is greater than the cooling inside it (because you provided energy in the form of electricity!), but the main point is that electricity is a more ordered form of energy than heat, since you have two poles (negative, and positive) that represent a differentiation, while thermal energy is always highly entropic since it assumes random molecule movements. Electricity can be converted into a lot of other forms of energy exactly because it is a low-entropy form of energy. You can convert electricity into heat, but not vice versa. This irreversibility is the key to understanding the process by which you can obtain an entropy decrease (through a "work" action from outside the system, that mandatorily implies another energy transformation). You also have another apparent contradiction: "...plants consume low-entropy ultraviolet light from the sun..." AND "the entropy of the sun is increasing tremendously as it is converting low entropy matter into high entropy energy" You have to specify that while the heat produced by the sun is high entropic, the ultraviolet radiation is low entropic. Moreover, the entropy increase during the fusion reactions in the sun has nothing to do with the entropy increase when plants take over ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Actually, within your whole video, you have to make a clear-cut difference between lower and higher entropy ENERGY forms. I am not a physicist, I used to be an internal medicine doctor and now a dietitian. However, in the school, I performed well in physics.
Systems oscillate between very few states of order and many states of disorder. Consequently, orderly states are infrequent and are improbable at any one random point in time. But, given enough time, a system will arbitrarily produce a high level of order and we see this with life.
Except that as you notice stars and planets are the rule and not dust floating in space. Entropy is not about order/disorder. Entropy is about the most stable form. And a compact mass, like a planet , which we see as orderly, is more stable than dust floating in space.
@@pulsar22 that's true but these aren't competing observations/theories. Like you, I saw that at the macro scale, dynamic systems form (eg solar systems, galaxies) but at the molecular scale, it is more chaotic - perhaps because gravity is so weak at that scale. But then we see order again at sub atomic scales and chaos at super macro (larger than galaxies) scales. It seems like order and stability alternately find a happy home at variously large and small scales and chaos reigns in between those places.
Arvin, very good insights, bro! Please also refer Julian Barbour's book "The Janus Point", where he points out that our (possibly restricted) (Sub-)Universe is *not* a closed system! Instead (due to ongoing expansion of spacetime) it is *open* , such that entropy may not be the appropriate measure - entaxy may be (a term coined by Barbour, alluding to some yet unknown conserved property in an open universe). My personal conviction is that entropy, as an increasing property, is just one side of a coin inhabiting some conserved entity, Emmy-Noether-like, referring to *isotropy of time* (which is missing in all standard models of physics). Just my 3 cents, from a PhD Astrophysicist here in good old Germany. 😊
Perhaps heat/temperature? Entropy is like maximizing freedom (number of options) …but for the smallest units of matter/energy. Which ironically leads to the macroscopic becoming rather uniform, a sparse growing dispersing cloud of whirling energy
I had already heard about it.. living being as entropy increasing machines. so if this is correct, we have answered the 1 billion dollar question: what is the objective purpose of life. this raises the next 1 billion dollar question: why the entropy need to increase as fast as possible in the universe?
This means not only that entropy increases in the universe, but the rate of increase is accelerated by evolution. For example, the emergence of AI can be seen as a means to further optimize the growth of global entropy by significantly reducing it locally. Biological mechanisms, it seems, are at the limit of their capacity to absorb and diffuse energy
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Subgroups are dual to subfields -- the Galois correspondence. Yin is dual to yang. Thesis (bacteria) is dual to anti-thesis (archaea) creates the converging thesis or synthesis (eukarya) -- The time independent Hegelian dialectic. Clockwise (Krebs cycle, mammals) is dual to anti-clockwise (the reverse Krebs cycle, plants). Bi-stability implies duality. Multi cellular life is synthesized from single cell life via the Hegelian dialectic -- the duality of the Krebs cycle. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) synthesizes children or offspring. The Hegelian dialectic explains why there are two dual sexes in nature. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. The Krebs energy cycle is dual as energy is duality, duality is energy. Vectors are dual to co vectors (forms). Sine is dual to cosine or dual sine -- the word co means mutual and implies duality. Entropy = average information. Syntropy = average mutual or co information. Duality creates reality!
I appreciate you admitting that we don’t know. Oh, and bonus points for not using nonsensical terms like "negative entropy" or "negentropy". Usually I just hear "earth isn’t a closed system so the 2nd law of thermodynamics doesn’t apply here thus life could arise." Ok, then so can solar powered robot dogs and boing 747s arising out of the ground because it’s not a closed system. Iphones just grow in the ground in China. They dig out a million iphones a week, they usually grow between 2 and 6 feet deep. Because it’s nice having a sun so we don’t have to deal with that pesky 2nd law entropy shit. Whenever my home gets messy, I just open the windows for a few hours and all that open system energy decreases my entropy and my house is perfectly clean. That sums up the usual answer i get to this question. Life most certainly violates the second law. And that’s because this is a simulation. I think we’re supposed to know this, I think the simulation broke sometime around 2012 (the mayan prophecy! lol… nah it could have been as early as 2010, but probably late 2011 or first 9 months of 2012, it’s hard to pinpoint a specific date). By 2015 it was obvious. The simulation is constantly glitching, consciousness is slowed by about a third, intelligence reduced by 50-60%, self-awareness has been reduced to about 1 in 40 people, attention span reduced to 8 seconds average (less than a goldfish), mentation has been reduced by 95% in 50% of the population, and that’s the killer. The Great Beclowning began in 2015 and if you couldn’t tell this is a simulation by feb 2021, or at least by NOW, well I just don’t even know what to say.
It doesn't cells die off . A human centric model of ideas can invoke that something is advancing forward is just measures of ideas. As far as a physical natures point of view our cells are constantly in line with physical entropy
