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I thing I found that was humorous when some of the JFK papers were declassified was a statement from the USSR to the Cuban ambassador. "Stop looking so happy in public."
To be fair, the US asked exactly the same questions when certain people died. Often times the top echelon of government simply give a nod for programes that cover a broad range of tactics, and goals. The top tier of the intelligence services delegate them to sections lower down. Those sections create task forces that then recruit agents Those agents handle field agents and assets that are doing the actual things. Daily, weekly or monthly reports are demanded, which come from this ground level, back up to the highest levels of Government. If something like this happens between those briefings on those reports, the first question larger powers leaders ask is "Was it us at all?".
To be fair I think most 'intelligence' services think this when something goes down, it's hard to keep an eye on all your 'assets' and people recruited due to their usefulness at a given time aren't often reliable or loyal, and tend to have their own agendas too. Best example for this is probably Orlando Bosch, a Cuban exile and terrorist, the CIA helped him and his cadres as a means to hurt communist Cuba but then he went and blew up a Cuban plane full of children/teenagers (I think it was a fencing team flying back from Mexico?). I very much doubt the upper echelons of the US govt wanted such a heinious act to happen but it was 'their guy'
The American spy Morris Childs (Operation Solo) was able to report back to the FBI that the Soviet leadership was genuinely shocked by the assassination. That helped to quell suspicion that the KGB was behind it.
They weren't actually shocked. The bolshevik ussr (is) was controlled by the same tribe that controls the west through the central bank system. The Rothschild family has been steadily marching to get us where we are today since the 17th century when they managed to take control of England
True... they were straight about telling America that they recognize this guy as unreliable and had nothing to do with him. I still love how Nikita Khrushchev first reaction was to double-check with the KGB and make sure that they hadn't done this.
Khrushchev: Alright, this sounds a bit fishy. I didn't kill him, did you? Castro: I didn't, did you? Mao: Wasn't me, did you? Ho Chi Minh: I dunno, can't've been me... *this proceeds for quite some time*
it makes sense though.. no? might have been a rogue agent thinking he's doing the right thing.... They had many zealous people working for them across the U.S.
@@Iason29 why though? I once read that because JFK was about to shut down CIA/FBI. Furthermore years earlier JFK refused to execute Operation Northwoods recommended by the CIA.
The CIA or fbi can't really do something on the ground like killing a politician because it gonna create tension The world is sperated in 2 block 1 USA and NATO 2 Russia and China So if cia or fbi act it gonna regret it in the long run Like the iran general now iran is one of many USA enemy So all this CIA and fbi stuff are just for TV and movies Not really a threat to worry about .
@@ikhone9805 Ok to make this clear, so there is no more debate, what happened was a conspiracy, like the word means conspiracy is when multiple groups conspire treason and this is what happened. The CIA wasn't alone in this. To begin with the CIA was an expert with experience gained in the Cold war in removing leaders through Black ops by indirect methods in using any looney they can find to get the result they want.. Ideologists, Socialists, it really doesn't matter... Doing the black ops against Kennedy in the US was way way easier since they are the ones controlling security, but in foreign countries they don't., so just imagine what a field day that was. The point is that it doesn't matter who killed Kennedy directly, all that matters is they got the result they wanted. Nobody will ever know the real truth in detail obviously, but in Kennedy's operation, it is rumored the loonies they found in his case, were Mafia, perhaps from Chicago. Kennedy's father was in the Mafia and was one of those shady profiteers from bootlegging and made money in the 1920's. The mafiosi have a mentality of their own with a so called brotherhood cult, which you probably know from the movies. Once you are in with them, they feel a privilege to own you and control you. I do not know much about Kennedy's father's attitude to this idea, perhaps Kennedy didn't know either, But the point is he was not his father and the mafia thought they had some sort of claim to control the son of someone who used to be in with them. When a son of an ex mafiosi suddenly becomes president is a BIG deal. This is what a documentary on JFK explained which I watched years back, and very likely for JFK this was out of date old 20's history and an affair of his father, so he obviously must have ignored any attempts to be approached by them after he got elected. This was the motive for the mafia to want him dead.. Bingo, now the CIA had the loonies, which if you think about it, perhaps there would have been no assassination possible if Kennedy's father had such a past, so food for thought. All the CIA had to do is order their men to take a blind eye or simply not even assign them on that day, in other words simply provide the opportunity. Some who protected Kennedy that day might have known something, but it is highly unlikely. Even today you can see how every aspect of personality has been sucked out from military, policemen, securities.. and today we just have human robots. Back then the agency dudes were the first of such robots while the police for example back then still held some traditions of humanity, so they were obviously oblivious and were the only ones who genuinely reacted to the shooting and went out of their way to catch the person or persons involved.. There is really not much else to explain on how it was organised, the rest you can pretty much guess yourself. All this was an executive CIA order to organise a Black Op, get in touch and coordinate with the mafia, the mafia then used three shooters of their own that day, with guaranteed get away and light security , while using Oswald as a scapegoat. The three shooters were necessary to make sure Kennedy is dead, because assassinations are always chancy affairs, and if the president somehow managed to survive he would be literally the only person who would be capable of hunting down the conspirators. Oswald was necessary to direct public and media outrage to his person. But because he had candidates in his mind of acquaintances who might have been involved in his frame up, he might have been the result of a new trail of evidence in the following days, so he had to be eliminated as well, and also to end the trail of outrage with his death. The other main issue was the president's autopsy, which has been debated all the way up to 1998 and still things remain inconclusive. At least 60% percent of americans in polls to this day believe the autopsy was manipulated in showing the death came from one direction and to cover up the fact that the 2 fatal shots that killed him from at least the 2 out of the 3 gunmen present, came from different directions. Despite the fact that all 3 official investigative commissions up to 1998 that occurred concluded to reject the idea. The first autopsy was attempted by Rose in Dallas who tried to do things by the book, which was interrupted by agents who basically broke the law and took the body away by force so another autopsy can be conducted in Washington. The autopsy there has also been fuzzy with a so called doctor removed and replaced during the autopsy to new evidence added constantly over the years every time the assassination comes in to question, such as "out of the blue" confessions of doctors involved, speaking out 28 years later and supporting the one gunman theory instead of coming forward much earlier. Now the why is even more uncertain, and could be discussed forever as it can also be quite philosophical as well, but I can tell you one thing though, the Conspirators wouldn't be able to answer your question well either. They are murderers after all, it's like trying to ask a husband on why he killed his wife. But the general essence of this is that it mostly has to do with American history and how in reality out of all the presidents, very few actually made a stand and attempted to genuinely lead their country with their own good heart. Like Lincoln and Washington for example, and Roosevelt obviously who ended isolationism and made military dominance possible. The Cold war took a nature of its own, thanks to Nuclear power which you can agree with me such power was never held in the hands of humans for all the thousands of years since we existed. Now you can understand this immense power is unlikely NOT to have SOME psychological repercussions. That is what happened to the US military or war hawks as many would call them, nuclear weapons can change a person's personality. They became drunk with power and after WW2, for the first time the US was on the top of their game and were the first to be truly masters of the world, just cause they achieved in holding the world hostage with a giant gun barrel pointed at it for the first time ( which is pretty much what a nuclear weapon is). And in this regard we could say they were as drunk as the USSR. All this I explain to you to understand how it was so easy for these people to feel nothing when taking the decision in wanting to kill the president. They wanted to have someone to control. Presidents to such people, are just the faces of the democratic farse which come and go every 4 years to keep up appearances for the people. In reality the people who rule are the ones with permanent positions. Kennedy would harass them all the way on multiple matters and was no push over, and when Kennedy was making the plans to pull the US out of the Vietnam War, for them it was the final straw, the president simply had to die. This is why his successor ended up increasing the troops sent to Vietnam and escalated the war, the exact opposite. There may be no direct evidence but it was suspected some CIA and government officials were also directly involved with war industry giants who stood to lose a great deal had the war been discontinued. So there were billions of dollars involved in the matter as well, not just an ideological stance towards the spread of communism and the pacifist approach. In my opinion Kennedy, with a slight exception for Obama, was the last great president the United States has seen so far. But since his death, politics changed forever, now that we can kill presidents, all sacred respect for the position evaporated on its own and lead to successive puppets. The warhawks opinion that democracy is a farse with presidents being reoccurring actors for every 4 years has by now become the norm. This is their legacy, and this was made possible by society's disunity on hunting down their national leader's murderers and serving justice.. Unfortunately people aren't into history which is why most were completely surprised when Trump became president, despite even losing the vote and being a blithering idiot. It's once again the signs, or side effects of this drunkenness of power. Since Kennedy's death they worked hard on keeping up appearances for the masses that what they are living is a democracy and their presidents aren't puppets, but after all these years and society prioritising individualism , privacy and self-servitude and a complete disinterest to politics as long as they live "happy" lives, have made this hard work ever more slack. The need to keep up appearances seems less and less necessary as we move into the future, now that these people know that even rubbing it into the face of the masses that they have no rule of the people, still would never jeopardize their positions of power. I'm sorry for the long explanation, but I hope I helped you out in understanding what happened.
well spies and agents frequently operate in far flung areas with minimal communications back to HQ. That's the nature of "spy" work. Quite hard to assess if one of your agents took a opportunistic shot and went rogue.
A long time ago I read a biography of Castro. One chapter opened with a description from a former US ambassador about having lunch with Castro when they got a phone call. Castro answered and faked “ What news?” then he went stark white she asked “Seriously?” He turned on the nearest radio to hear reports of the assassination, then turned to the ambassador and said “ There goes your whole reason for being here,”
Castro was meeting with Jean Daniel, a French journalist (not an ambassador) when they heard the news from Dallas. They were discussing restarting US Cuban diplomatic relations. Daniel had met with JFK and was their intermediary.
When the Cuban Missile Crisis ended, Khrushchev publicly withdrew his missiles from Cuba and allowed the USA to secretly remove its own missiles from Turkey. That was the deal, but in public, it was a Soviet retreat not an American one even though in real life both sides had retreated. Khrushchev gave Kennedy a face-saving solution that the Soviet establishment never forgave him (Khrushchev) for. That was one of many reasons the Politburo voted him out of power just a few years later.
Didn't Kruschev order that they try to cover up the Chernobyl disaster? I may be wrong, but I think he was in command at that time Edit: just going to go ahead and say this; I've already been informed that Krushchev was *NOT* the one in power when the Chernobyl incident happened.
@@robertrichard6107 What Jagger and Richard were saying was the hatred in the U.S. and world resulted in it. Rod Serling even referred to it in a Twilight Zone episode. The hatred has unfortunately returned today.
@@davidstinger1134 I wouldn't go this far but their rogue operations such as MK Ultra, executing opposition leaders in broad daylight and fighting against as well as financing all of the 100 tribes in Afghanistan was a pretty bad idea.
maybe it was, but that would ment actual war, wich non side realy wanted unless they were certain of victory, so they just pretended they didnt see nothin
I always say, when Lee Oswald went to the Soviet Union, the Soviets assessed him as a mentally unstable adventurer and made no attempt to use him as an intelligence asset. This becomes germain because the Department of the Navy downgraded Oswald's Marine Corps discharge from honorable to the administrative category of undesirable based on the presumption that he had provided information about the U-2 program that he had learned during his assignment in Japan to the Soviets. He hadn't. Texas Gov. John Connally had been secretary of the Navy when Oswald's discharge was downgraded. It has been theorized that Oswald's primary resentment was against Connally and that his intended target originally was Connally. Theorized. In any case, the downgrading of Oswald's military discharge very well could have been a source of resentment whatever the focus of that resentment was.
Oswald thought that communist Cuba was the ideal place on earth to live. He hated Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs attack on Cuba. This is why he shot Kennedy. (There were 3 witnesses within 10 feet of Oswald when he shot Kennedy)
That would be the Soviet Union. After the fall of Communism, the Russians discovered that their maps of their own country were so full of misinformation (to confuse foreign invaders trying to find their way around Russia) that they had to go to the West to buy accurate maps of Russia because all our maps were based on accurate satellite images.
It makes sense. The KGB was a large and rather secretive organization. People were only told what they needed to know and not a single thing more. Its not impossible that somewhere in chain of command there was a rogue actor that got overzealous with the anti-America campaign. Any organization that's too large for anyone to remember everyone's name has a risk of a rogue actor using the organization's resources for something that the overall organization doesn't support. The KGB was worried that one of their agents may have decided to make a personal sacrifice believing it was best for Russia.
The fact that they had to do so implies that the KGB assassinate people without the top knowing otherwise they could have just known a hit on JFK wasn't in their memo and therefore couldn't be them.
@@lovepeaceandlive people who make statements like that don't know how the intelligence agencies actually work. NSA doesn't actually deal with people at all, it's all device/communication related.
I love this picture of all the communist leaders looking concerned at one another, thinking that one of them commanded it without notifying anyone and collectively shitting their pants
It was crazier back then. People had more lead in their blood streams from car exhaust. The shooters were way down on the food chain, no radios for them, umbrella man gave signals et.
raven lord Yeah, some random Serbian nationalist who had nothing to do with the Serbian government shot an archduke, Serbia got blamed and it started a whole lot of shit,
@@trollface1054 the guy shooting the archduke played the minorest of roles in causing WW-I. at that point the war was happening, everybody knew and accepted the fact that the war was happening, they were just waiting for an excuse to start it.
@@mega4363 Being shot when he was. There are fair to good odds if he had lived out his life he would have failed the American public in one way or another, and we would remember him as a total prick. People who die - at least good people who die - are generally remembered far more generously than good people who live on and fade into obscurity. If Elvis hadn’t died when he did, he would not be remembered half as well as he was. If John Lennon hadn’t been murdered, he would not be remembered half as well as he was. If Jesus hadn’t died when he did, he would not be remembered at all. And if JFK hadn’t been assassinated, he would be just another in a long line of former Presidents that most people couldn’t remember the name of. But since he was murdered, he gets remembered as great, despite the fact he was almost certainly only somewhere in the middle.
@Harry Quellings Except he was the one who caused the missiles to be stationed on Cuba in the first place. Bay of pigs, remember? CIA sponsered killings in South America and East asia? JFK wasn't the peace maker, people make him out to be.
@@Orcawhale1 Russian missiles weren't able to reach most of the US during the cold War but then a new Cuban dictator took over and suddenly there was a big problem because if the ussr used communist Cuba to set up their missiles then they would easily be able to cover the entire US. They would've put the missiles there regardless striking first was the right way to go but jfk decided he wanted to be discrete about it and pulled half the troops that were planned to go which caused the invasion to fail
@@Orcawhale1 The C.I.A. was at odds with Kennedy because Kennedy was what they considered a "rogue" president. Kennedy often did what he pleased despite what his advisors told him to do. Some of his actions in office might have declared him a threat to Homeland Security. I can't honestly say whether he was doing good or causing a possible harm to our country.
I find it surprising that the Soviet Union was not only worried about JFK's assassination but they even apologised to his family despite the fact that JFK was essentially the governmental leader of their enemy nation
_US News: The President has been assassinated..._ *USSR: Oh no, was that us?!* _US: ...by a US citizen..._ *USSR: Phew, not us. Nice.* _US: ...who loved Karl Marx and lived in Russia for a time!_ *USSR: Ready the nukes quietly, and help the Americans publicly...NOW!*
US News: The President has been assassinated... USSR: Oh no, was that us?! US: ...by a US citizen... USSR: Phew, not us. Nice. US: ...who loved Karl Marx and lived in Russia for a time! USSR:NANI?!?! fixed it
When you realize that the Cuban Missile Crisis happened almost exactly a year prior to his death, it adds another level of ‘oh shit’ and panic to JFK’s untimely demise. It’s easy to see how the USSR panicked and so many conspiracies arose around who took JFK out. The poor guy had enemies foreign and domestic in nearly every corner around him.
I say the world got lucky that it was a lonely loser and not someone in an organisation payed by moscow. The latter was more or less like the situation in 1914 and I bet the US would have reacted exacly like Austria did (with extreme vengeance) if Oswald was an agent from foreign & hostile power.
@@SuperAerie Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, even Congress admitted it's a conspiracy, but they don't have any power over the conspirators. But, the organizations still have to pay to cover that up. It's like what William Casey said, you know.
@@robertrichard6107 But lots of enemies within our own government who saw him as a traitor when he tried to ease Cold War tensions with Russia and pull back from Indochina.
@@zyrrhos actually, the USA pulled out of the Vietnam War because it became very unpopular among the U.S, combined with the fact it was becoming increasingly un-winnable, which allowed the North Vietnamese to do what the confederacy couldn’t get them to do in the American civil war, which was to demoralise the U.S to the point the U.S government had no choice but to give up, thus ensuring that, to the U.S, the war just wasn’t worth it, and had to end.
People overlook that Khrushchev was actually way more scared of nuclear war than even the top American officials. He really did seem to be adamant about deescalating the tension.
Summary: For a brief moment everyone was united in the fact they didn’t want to die in a nuclear holocaust Then that fear subsided and Vietnam happened
@@akfreed6949 Having more nukes means very little, even a few hundred nukes could easily level a few nation states. You imagine 300 or 400 nukes flying at the USA? Whether it's 300 or 3-4000 nukes means absolutely nothing.....you are still getting your country leveled in short order.
Oh don’t be so sad Castro. Where Kennedy couldn’t even get a medal for surviving assassinations , your going to be getting the Olympic Gold by the time you die.
@@garybrown2039 Olympic gold? Pfft. Try "World Guinness record holder by a country mile and very unlikely to ever be surpassed even ten thousand years from now". There were 638 of 'em.
Two points. 1- I generally love that the KGB was seen as so powerful and unruly that the higher ups in Moscow genuinely thought one of them did it. Tells you that the KGB at this point had debatably more power than the government. 2- Prior to Putin closing off old Soviet Documents cause, I guess to him they were like embarrassing high school moments rather than a chance to heal relationships, they reveal that the USSR despite public image, was more avid war at all cost than the US was.
Throw back to the time Marshall Zhukov literally made the head of the KGB turn white after bursting into a meeting saying "WHO THE FUCK MOVED *MY* TROOPS" (the kgb replaced all the normal soldiers at the kremlin)
Legit though, when I had jobs as a teenager, I would sometimes get blamed for things, and then deny and defend that I didn't do it, but as I walked away, I was really thinking, "crap, I really hope I didn't" Sometimes I would get get so preoccupied I would do things without thinking
Imagine doing something that singlehandedly causes the entirety of the USSR frantically scramble to deny involvement in what you did, out of sheer and raw panic
Same thing is still going on with places like Cuba that actively seek peaceful and healthy relations with the US while they are placed under embargo and countries like Saudi Arabia instead get massive support.
It is not surprising that after how many wars in the XX century, we Russians do not want more war. In those years, we often said, "лишь бы не было войны." (That means, in a simplified translation, no more war.)
Interestingly, that JFK was a rather popular person in the USSR, despite all tensions and confrontations of the cold war. I'm pretty much sure, the panic reaction was not in the gov. offices only, lots of folks were kinda "shit, did our assholes murdered him? what a dumbasses", so the politburo had to calm down internal public as well.
@@Celeste__ch. Yea, the film should be called the Death of JFK and focus around the panic that USSR government had during Kennedy's death. I think it would be the perfect sequel.
@@shaynemhopkins You are taking the word of a youtube blogger who has quoted no sources whatsoever. He also states that the Soviet union knew nothing at all about the American vice presidents stance and opinions. I have my doubts.
Castro's reaction was also interesting. Despite JFK and Castro being supposed enemies during thr missile crisis, Castro was actually worried for JFK's safety when he got the call that Kennedy have been seriously wounded. He said to the people near him "This is bad news." Castro actually thought it was a KKK member or a Vietnamese person, not a Soviet sympathizer. He was also quoted as saying that he was vehemently against assassination, and that it was the worst way you could go about doing away with a president. Coming from a guy with experience in getting rid of presidents. Castro also said that JFK couldve been the greatest president in US history, and that if he continued there couldve been peace between socialists and capitalists. In his eyes, Kennedy was a man he and Kruschchev could talk to. After also having wtitten some trash talk against Kennedy's policies the day before, he went later and changed it so it was speaking not against Kennedy's policies, but the United States'. Castro ordered that Cuba go into mourning for their fallen foe, completely unexpected from America's evil Communist neighbor.
Castro actually supported North Vietnam, among other communist thugs in the third world. He spent his entire regime blaming America for communist wars he was either causing or contributing to, when he wasn't oppressing his people Joe Stalin-style.
Castro was also meeting with Jean Daniel, a French journalist who was a backchannel negotiator between Castro and JFK. They were discussing restarting diplomatic relations. Castro understood that Oswald was a patsy and the CIA did it.
@@markrobinowitz8473 Castro was so busy backing up communist revolutions throughout the third world, or hooking himself up with others that were already going on, he never was interested with improving relations with our government. Wooing our media on the other hand, he was okay with.
so in other words... castro's reaction was to be extremely long-winded and have foolish expectations, exactly like his response to everything from the jfk assassination to milk cows
yep, and it persists to this day. russian hackers, election, anything. tired of that, western world is full of lies and deceit, i wouldn't want to live there if i was offered a US green card
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@@nang9484 Not really, not only would this be extremely foolish for Castro but a lot of the socialist countries viewed Kennedy as more open to dialogue than the ones prior. Also LBJ was more hostile to them which made JFK better in hindsight.
Why is that actually the goddamned truth about what he was saying, the first two months after? Why were people in general this fucking stupid, that such things had to be proven wrong before they even got to debunking more realistic false theories of what happened?
RFK jr tells the story of how the CIA Director at the time was a close family friend of his dad who was the Attorney General of the United States. And the CIA Director would come over to their house and swim almost every day after work. When the assassination occurred RFK Sr asked the CIA Director if the CIA had anything to do with the assassination of JFK and the Director said “I don’t know…”
Roughman, Neither side wanted nuclear destruction, just because you kill other people doesn't mean your own people aren't dead. 100,000 killed on each side doesn't leave a balance of 0, it leaves a total of 200,000 killed.
@Roughman I'm pretty sure the Soviets didn't have the range to nuke continental America at the time. Europe would be the target, it would become a Nuclear Wasteland in a matter of minutes
This kind of reminds me of a high school band nerf war I was in not too long ago. (Albeit not as serious) So the trumpet section (which I’m in) were-facing off against the trombones in the science hallway. A few weeks prior, a bunch of project posters were put all over the walls. Well during the nerf war, a bunch got knocked down and we’re getting pretty ripped up. One of the upperclassman trombones called for a ceasefire and to put the posters back on the walls. After all the posters were fixed, we went back to our previous positions and resumed like nothing happened.
I was literally telling myself before the video started that Russia was probably really worried that they some how were involved without fully knowing and probably played the nice game by giving the US their sympathy
Oh don’t be so sad Castro. Where Kennedy couldn’t even get a medal for surviving assassinations , your going to be getting the Olympic Gold by the time you die.
The leveled headed reaction, closed internal investigation, legitimate cooperation, condolences and general caution taken to prevent nuclear war at that time is absolutely mind blowing! This was awesome! Thanks for posting. This is especially amazing since we live in such a stark nearly unbelievable contrast now when it comes to global leaderships. America especially.
Not really, while the current president is an idiot the other guys arent, prove, so far the US hasnt go on another war (aside from the ones they are already involved)
The stark raving madness that's been coming out of Mordor on the Potomac in recent times is mindbending. It's like they're looking forward to glow in the dark!